| Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 [8] 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 :: one page |
|
|
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Reply to Topic | Show CCP posts - 4 post(s) |
Dasola
Rookies Empire
Rookie Empire
1
    |
Posted - 2011.10.19 18:23:00 -
[211] - Quote
Just wondering how many developers from WoD will be assigned to eve from now on?
Glad to see that ccp management finally see the light, that player base has been trying to point out on them for so long.
Now 20% reduction on developer force? Does that also reflect equal 20% reduction on management staff as well? As in useless bosses that dont even know EvE we players love?
Hopeing thay by next summer we also get reworked corporate management with much more leaner access management, etc...
[Insert something funny or smart here] |
Alpheias
Euphoria Released
HYDRA RELOADED
94
|
Posted - 2011.10.19 18:24:00 -
[212] - Quote
Kengutsi Akira wrote:Solhild wrote:Resubbing accounts and adding another soon  no troll meant but how does this have to do with the topic? Theyre firing 20% of their staff and thats good enough for you to resub?
If CCP made a statement that if X amount of people resubbed their accounts, people's jobs would be saved. I would resub several of mine.
GV= When your ship gets blown to bits
GV= And you lose your Faction fits
\G+/ Don't worry GV, GV= GV, GV=
GV= GV, GV= GV, Be Happy \G+/ |
Jolteon Taylor
The Scope
Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2011.10.19 18:25:00 -
[213] - Quote
Does anyone know which current CCP staff came from White Wolf, and thus, are likely the ones facing the chop?
Alpheias wrote:
If CCP made a statement that if X amount of people resubbed their accounts, people's jobs would be saved. I would resub several of mine.
Sure thing, me too. In these times, no one should be loosing their job. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
388
|
Posted - 2011.10.19 18:30:00 -
[214] - Quote
Alpheias wrote:It boggles one's mind that CCP are sacking developers & community when it is the MANAGEMENT that should be let go.
Agreed
CCP needs management that doesn't cower in fear of a few whiners threatening to quit.
Management that won't change direction every two weeks to try and suck up to a few entitled forum brats.
Mr Epeen
If you can read this, you haven't blocked me yet. |
Midge Mo'yb
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
31
|
Posted - 2011.10.19 18:31:00 -
[215] - Quote
Jolteon Taylor wrote:Great news for EVEs future, although such a shame it had to happen like this.
I do hope CCP_FallOut gets to keep her job. I do enjoy following her tweets \o/
http://www.almaroc.com/?p=1896
:(
|
Ugleb
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
51
|
Posted - 2011.10.19 18:33:00 -
[216] - Quote
My best wishes to anyone I've ever met out there affected by this, and good luck to you if you are still waiting to hear news. I'm very much saddened to hear that things have come to this and hope that you all come back from this quickly and strongly.
To all those remaining at CCP, know that the community does hope that good things emerge from all this and that you will soon be joined by new or even returning colleagues as CCP and EVE returns to a stronger and surer footing.
http://uglebsjournal.wordpress.com/ |
Jolteon Taylor
The Scope
Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2011.10.19 18:34:00 -
[217] - Quote
Midge Mo'yb wrote:Jolteon Taylor wrote:Great news for EVEs future, although such a shame it had to happen like this.
I do hope CCP_FallOut gets to keep her job. I do enjoy following her tweets \o/ http://www.almaroc.com/?p=1896:(
O HELL NO. Fallout was totally the best community person. Totally gutted, she shouldn't be the one paying the price of CCPs runins with the community, not at all. |
Endeavour Starfleet
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
17
|
Posted - 2011.10.19 18:35:00 -
[218] - Quote
I am very sorry to hear of job losses. That is not fun in the least.
However, I do have to say that sadly this is what happens when employees flat out ignore issues that effect the player base.
You ignored the players on Incarna and as a result thousands of paying accounts lapsed.
You continue to ignore AFK Cloaking and more than a few accounts have given up over that. Same with other issues that drive people out of nullsec and allow the big alliances to accumulate and hold great power allowing them to be very picky on who they allow into the club.
I would personally like to run 3-4 accounts. However, I am not going to do it when concerns don't even get a dev response even after topic after topic.
Show me what you will DO about these issues or atleast what the view of the DEV team is. And then ACT on them. And maybe JUST maybe the playerbase will be happy to increase sub count and allow you to do the rehires to make your World of Darkness game. |
Demetri Slavic
Veto.
Veto Corp
2
|
Posted - 2011.10.19 18:35:00 -
[219] - Quote
This is ********.
The people that are being let go are the ones that were holding the community together, the ones that actually had the right idea.
Well done CCP, just as you were turning it arround you manage to shoot both your feet off. |
Covert Kitty
SRS Industries
SRS.
14
|
Posted - 2011.10.19 18:37:00 -
[220] - Quote
While it's important to feel solidarity with those who loose their jobs, it's vastly more important to get Eve back on the right track. Eve is after all the only real product CCP has. Unless your blizzard, and have vast sums of money, or are willing to leverage yourself into a potentially compromising position (which CCP may have already done), a serious shift in focus will mean cuts and re-purposing. So hearing that that is specifically what CCP plans on doing is in my opinion very good to hear.
|
|
Renan Ruivo
Hipernova
Vera Cruz Alliance
186
|
Posted - 2011.10.19 18:38:00 -
[221] - Quote
Midge Mo'yb wrote:Jolteon Taylor wrote:Great news for EVEs future, although such a shame it had to happen like this.
I do hope CCP_FallOut gets to keep her job. I do enjoy following her tweets \o/ http://www.almaroc.com/?p=1896:(
So.
Obvioulsy Hillmar wishes to pass blame on all those who were involved on the forefront of the community management during the summer monoclegate, and poor Fallout was to blame as well? How is firing one of the most well known and respected community staff members going to help things?
And let me guess, CCP Pann kept her job?
Ridiculous.
Sometimes the only difference between a budding genius and a blooming idiot is where they chose to take a stand. |
Bio Fade
United Aerospace Co-op
0
|
Posted - 2011.10.19 18:38:00 -
[222] - Quote
I dont get DUST 514 and how you are going to make money on it. World of Darkness I get and I see how it will make money. I think you made the wrong choice. But Eve has been neglected and I suppose this was overdue. We the community feel your heartbreak and are very sad people will be let go. Although this is good news for Eve players its hard to be excited about it. But at least come winter I wont be pissed off again. |
Verone
Veto Corp
73
|
Posted - 2011.10.19 18:40:00 -
[223] - Quote
Renan Ruivo wrote:And let me guess, CCP Pann kept her job?
Ridiculous.
Actually no, she didn't.
This is insane.
Verone
CEO & Executor
Veto Corp
WWW.VETO-CORP.COM |
Jolteon Taylor
The Scope
Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2011.10.19 18:41:00 -
[224] - Quote
Renan Ruivo wrote:Midge Mo'yb wrote:Jolteon Taylor wrote:Great news for EVEs future, although such a shame it had to happen like this.
I do hope CCP_FallOut gets to keep her job. I do enjoy following her tweets \o/ http://www.almaroc.com/?p=1896:( So. Obvioulsy Hillmar wishes to pass blame on all those who were involved on the forefront of the community management during the summer monoclegate, and poor Fallout was to blame as well? How is firing one of the most well known and respected community staff members going to help things? And let me guess, CCP Pann kept her job? Ridiculous.
This. It seems the totally wrong people are paying the price for CCPs runins with the community. |
Alpheias
Euphoria Released
HYDRA RELOADED
95
|
Posted - 2011.10.19 18:43:00 -
[225] - Quote
Verone wrote:
This is insane.
Insane doesn't come even close.
10/19 2011 - never forget the 20%
|
|
CCP Manifest
C C P
C C P Alliance
134
|
Posted - 2011.10.19 18:43:00 -
[226] - Quote
My good friend CCP Fallout wrote a heartfelt message that she shared with #tweetfleet. You may remember her from such things as deleting your post or promoting your awesome player creation. I asked her if I could also share it here.
She will be dearly missed at CCP.
An Open Letter to the Players of EVE Online
Heya guys,
Many of you know me as CCP Fallout, but to most people IGGVm just plain old Mist. If you are reading this, there is a good chance you already know that CCP has laid off approximately 20% of its workforce. I am one of the 20%.
For the last three years, I have been the associate community manager for EVE Online. I have had both the honor and the privilege to not only work with an absolutely amazing team, but extremely talented and passionate designers, programmers, QA, customer support and others who have brought, and continue to bring, EVE Online to life. My co-workers have, and I hope will continue to, inspire, educate, amuse, and drive me bat **** crazy. These people are extremely passionate about their work, and each of them is tremendously talented. It has always bugged me that players never truly got to see this side of EVE OnlineGGVs devs unless they went to Fanfest. When you speak face-to-face with someone at CCP about EVE Online, thatGGVs not just some mask they are wearing for three daysGG* EVE Online is something we love, something we want to grow, and something we are proud of. In this respect, EVE OnlineGGVs devs really are not that much different from players, even if I know you might not believe me when I say it.
And of course, none of this would happen without you, the players, the most amazingly insane bunch of space assholes (1, 2) ever to play an MMO ever. I have been so incredibly blessed to have had the privilege and honor of working for you all these years, and thank you for allowing me into your universe. Not a day has gone by where I wasnGGVt either amused or shocked by some of the crazy things you guys would come up with. Every day was an adventure; every day was an experience that I canGGVt ever forget. I am indebted to the EVE community teaching me both passion and humility, and for reminding me how important the voice of a community is during both the good and bad times.
So, what does the future bring for me? IGGVm not entirely sure. To be honest, I am a bit scared and concerned, but I am hopeful. I do realize that I am probably going to have to stop wearing pajamas all day, and introduce myself to some soap, but I am confident that things will be okay. And I wish the same thing for all of my friends who currently are on the same boat as I.
Please do fly safely. IGGVm going to go now, because I am starting to cry.
P.S. Yes, I know whatGGVs coming into the game next. No, I will not tell you
1. You know I only mean this with love!
2. Also: haha, no blackfilter on my site!
======== o7
CCP Manifest | Public Relations and Social Media | @ccp_manifest |
|
|
CCP Manifest
C C P
C C P Alliance
134
|
Posted - 2011.10.19 18:44:00 -
[227] - Quote
I see above that a couple people posted this already.
Thank you.
======== o7
CCP Manifest | Public Relations and Social Media | @ccp_manifest |
|
DaiTengu
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
25
|
Posted - 2011.10.19 18:44:00 -
[228] - Quote
Renan Ruivo wrote:Midge Mo'yb wrote:Jolteon Taylor wrote:Great news for EVEs future, although such a shame it had to happen like this.
I do hope CCP_FallOut gets to keep her job. I do enjoy following her tweets \o/ http://www.almaroc.com/?p=1896:( So. Obvioulsy Hillmar wishes to pass blame on all those who were involved on the forefront of the community management during the summer monoclegate, and poor Fallout was to blame as well? How is firing one of the most well known and respected community staff members going to help things? And let me guess, CCP Pann kept her job? Ridiculous.
There's no blame being thrown around it all here. People that are losing their jobs are just not considered as vital as the people who are keeping them. |
Zeomebuch Nova
Metalworks
1
|
Posted - 2011.10.19 18:45:00 -
[229] - Quote
Tippia wrote:ThirdlyGG* SHAMESHAME wrote:To each and every person who whined their way through the last few months, congratulations. You got your pixels, database entries and pretend warfare. Real people lost jobs. There was nothing so wrong with the game that it should have meant taking real food off the real tables of real people. It is my sincere hope that you too find yourself in the unemployment line. GG*you're an idiot. The reason those people lost their jobs was because CCP made the horribly bad decision of not feeding its golden goose. There were (and still are) plenty of things wrong with the game, but had they've been attended to, people would have felt far more compelled to keep giving CCP money, which might have kept those people in their jobs. We are not a welfare agency GGv we are customers, and if we do not get the product we pay for, then it is right to not give the producer any money, and it is right for them to have to adjust their production to fix the issues they caused.
In fact, blame the CEO, not the customers.
shameshame needs the same intensity of reality check as Hilmar did year ago.
|
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
649
|
Posted - 2011.10.19 18:46:00 -
[230] - Quote
Midge Mo'yb wrote:Jolteon Taylor wrote:Great news for EVEs future, although such a shame it had to happen like this.
I do hope CCP_FallOut gets to keep her job. I do enjoy following her tweets \o/ http://www.almaroc.com/?p=1896:(
Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-ahttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
|
Azelor Delaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
44
|
Posted - 2011.10.19 18:47:00 -
[231] - Quote
I said what I wanted to in the "unofficial" thread. However, I feel like I should say the following.
Hilmar's job, as CEO of CCP, is to make the company money. To do so, he should have been following the core tenets of basic entrepreneurship:
1.) Never stray from your source material.
2.) Never grow beyond your means.
3.) Create a product and maintain it until you can branch off.
4.) Keep your customers happy.
Do all of this, and nine-times-out-of-ten you will have a solid business. I've pointed to Blizzard many times in the past, and the reason for this is simple: they provide a quality set of products (I refuse to group World of Warcraft and Starcraft as the same "product", even though I play both) and continue to support them.
EVE Online is a niche game. It is not going to be as mainstream as World of Warcraft or Rift, because those games cater to people who simply want to come home, do a dungeon, and otherwise not spend too much time worrying about stuff they may lose. EVE is purely about destruction. We lose ships and modules, which means we lose money. Whether we destroy other ships before this happens is inconsequential - you are still risking your own in-game currency. And it's not like you can toggle a flag to prevent. In one way or another, you'll be engaged and the chance of losing every ship you have is real.
I remember not too long ago CCP releasing a "promotional" video titled "The Butterfly Effect". The gist was simple: every action a person takes in EVE Online has a real and somewhat-lasting impact on the game for others. The same can be said for any company, not just CCP: the actions taken by a person has an impact on everyone else. We are seeing that here.
Hilmar has no reason to fear for his job. Until such time as there is some cataclysmic incident where money is lost at a rate the company can not make back in a foreseeable future, everyone under him is expendable. That is the problem.
The entire source for the original post was an attempt by CCP to try to guilt trip us. They wanted us to look at it and go, "Wow, we caused this to happen". Undoubtedly, many CCP "fanbois" (or alternatively, CCP employees masquerading as "players") will post (or have, I haven't read through the entire thread yet) saying we are wrong, and because we were selfish people lost their jobs.
**** that.
The reason these people lost their jobs is because of Hilmar. I know that a reduction of a workforce by 20%, no matter how large a company, is something that is not decided upon lightly, and is not something a company is willing to do unless it is absolutely required to save money. Hilmar's greed, Hilmar's selfishness cost these people their jobs.
The developers for these games should have been in control. Because they weren't, people are losing their jobs. CCP can say they're "helping" to find them alternative employment, but I highly doubt that's happening. Where would these people go? The competition? Would you give your competitors employees you were terminating?
Hilmar says he's sorry and humbled because of recent events. He refused to talk to us when Monoclegate happened. The PR department threw CCP Pann to the hungry masses of players as the sacrificial lamb, and since she didn't want to be that lamb, she did what any good person does and threw the idiots in charge under the bus. "Mutually Assured Destruction" wasn't just the name of the game in the Cold War. What's to bet that had things turned out worse, CCP Pann would have been terminated way back when?
What's to say she isn't one of the people being terminated right now?
Hilmar et al. made their bed, and now they're being forced to sleep in it. And to try to deflect attention away from their idiocy, they're trying to tell us we're bad people for wanting the game we pay to play looked at more than once in a blue moon.
Taking bets now that at the next quarterly fiscal report, when CCP's finances are down, Hilmar blames the players for not meeting quota. |
Kumq uat
Mercurialis Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
21
|
Posted - 2011.10.19 18:48:00 -
[232] - Quote
I was worried about something like this. We knew that loan renegotiation was coming up and I believe this is a direct result of that. It makes sense from a business stand point but I know personally at least one of the people directly hit by this. Sad panda I am. |
Endeavour Starfleet
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
17
|
Posted - 2011.10.19 18:48:00 -
[233] - Quote
Alpheias wrote:Kengutsi Akira wrote:Solhild wrote:Resubbing accounts and adding another soon no troll meant but how does this have to do with the topic? Theyre firing 20% of their staff and thats good enough for you to resub? If CCP made a statement that if X amount of people resubbed their accounts, people's jobs would be saved. I would resub several of mine.
Yet you wont hold them online. Atleast not long enough for WoD.
I also want them to keep their jobs. Yet I need more than WoD to convince me having a third account or more is worth it. And for that to happen I need to know that they are going to fix these issues they have ignored. And that they are not going to pull something crazy to change the very nature of nullsec such as removing local or another mass change in risk vs reward.
I will admit that TiDi has me tempted. TiDi is going to mean more ships lost. And better battles. This will improve the markets for industry significantly and maybe even allow basic drops to be profitable again. That and other ideas mentioned so far have the potential to make eve something to look forward to logging into again.
So CCP I would happily accept 500M plex prices if I see you are also willing to open further up to the community and do the changes needed that might not be the new shiny thing. Fix AFK cloaking so I am not someone's free hotdrop lunch. Fix the issues with POS and Corp operations and I will buy those 3+ plex with a smile on my face and drool leaking out over the next CTA. |
Josefius
Caldari Elite Force
Apocalypse Now.
16
|
Posted - 2011.10.19 18:48:00 -
[234] - Quote
Oh no, not CCP Fallout :( what a loss to the community. |
Sarinat Talen
Celestial Arms Manufacturing and Operations
New Eden Research.
0
|
Posted - 2011.10.19 18:50:00 -
[235] - Quote
This is disgusting. CCP management is responsible for the events of the last few months. Now you are "stretched too thin" so you are firing people? I am glad I don't work for CCP. |
Jags
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
1
|
Posted - 2011.10.19 18:50:00 -
[236] - Quote
So which one of the senior management is gonna go then ?
I bet its the same bullshit that happens in every company , the normal employees pay for the ******** mistakes of senior management with thier jobs while those people sitting in the iviory towers **** each other off coz they have saved x million whatevers by making people redundant.,
Proof that CCP are just a company and are as big a pile of cunts as any other company. |
|
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
584
|
Posted - 2011.10.19 18:51:00 -
[237] - Quote
This kinda sucks and I feel for all CCP employees affected by this decision. I thank you for all you've done for EVE and us in the community, you will be missed!
Best regards,
Chribba
|
|
Euphonus
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2011.10.19 18:51:00 -
[238] - Quote
Why are people like Fallout being fired over WoD people? honestly? You're just going to drive players to another mass-unsub protest if we keep finding out the good hardworking and friendly CCP employees who have always had EVE (the game, not yours, though they should be aligning)'s best interests at hard are being fired. |
Renan Ruivo
Hipernova
Vera Cruz Alliance
186
|
Posted - 2011.10.19 18:53:00 -
[239] - Quote
DaiTengu wrote:Renan Ruivo wrote:Midge Mo'yb wrote:Jolteon Taylor wrote:Great news for EVEs future, although such a shame it had to happen like this.
I do hope CCP_FallOut gets to keep her job. I do enjoy following her tweets \o/ http://www.almaroc.com/?p=1896:( So. Obvioulsy Hillmar wishes to pass blame on all those who were involved on the forefront of the community management during the summer monoclegate, and poor Fallout was to blame as well? How is firing one of the most well known and respected community staff members going to help things? And let me guess, CCP Pann kept her job? Ridiculous. There's no blame being thrown around it all here. People that are losing their jobs are just not considered as vital as the people who are keeping them.
So i guess that the kind of trust and respect we had in CCP Fallout as a community manager ("assistant" my ass.. what sort of "community manager" was CCP Pann if i never ever seen one post from her if not for damage control during the monoclegate. Fallout was the one that worked with us) was non essential for someone on that role?
Sometimes the only difference between a budding genius and a blooming idiot is where they chose to take a stand. |
Renan Ruivo
Hipernova
Vera Cruz Alliance
186
|
Posted - 2011.10.19 18:55:00 -
[240] - Quote
And by the way i'm not saying that anyone who got fired had it coming, but there are those to blame about the whole thing that happened during summer, and that did not get what was coming to them. As much as i blame CCP Pann for the miscomunication during the start of the whole drame at least she had the courage to post and admit she was to blame on that specific issue.
To this day though some people still pretend they had nothing to do with it.
Sometimes the only difference between a budding genius and a blooming idiot is where they chose to take a stand. |
|
|
|
| |
Reply to Topic |
| Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 [8] 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 :: one page |
| First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |