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criativa
Zugleich Techniken
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Posted - 2013.04.29 01:22:00 -
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Note1: This is not a topic about how game lore and mechanics are or should be. Note2: English is not my native language.
First I'd like to state that although I use to judge people by what they do, I also only truly feel like I know someone (trust) when I see and hear them speaking. This is a sense of mine that never failed and therefore counts a lot in my final judgement of others statements.
Considering this, I must say how I was impressed by the way CCP Seagull talked in the Fanfest EVE Online Keynote (2013). She seemed somewhat nervous (or excited) but at the same time with a deep serenity in her voice and expressions. What that means to me? Well, please, bare with me a little more.
First, I love the EVE Universe: carebears, nullbears, whateverbears, gankers, griefers, bumpers, scammers, etc. I believe this game is so successful only because it is, indeed, so real: you can be bad, sure, but you can also be good. And, for me, that is the very reason that makes real life and game life so infinitely wonderful: find out why there are people out there being good when there is so much agression, opression, harsh environments, selfishness, and all the "bad things". Well, actually, I also don't consider them "bad things". Why? Because it is only there, under these circumstances and environments, that humanity enlight (in and out of games).
Question: Whatever! What your thoughts and CCP Seagull's have in common?
Answer: They share the vision of a world where you can create AND destroy.
It seems to me she do know the importance of good and bad, yin and yang. This is very important for the balance of things in games and real life. A lot of EVE players think that the game should be as harsh as possible or as carebear(ish) as possible, and there are devs who clearly support one thing more than other. CCP Seagull possibly have her personal preference too but, again, she seems to understand the importance of the creation/destruction duality more than others. The Instigators/Enablers system is about a lot of this. (in my mind, of course)
So far I have seen a lot of CCP's staff videos talking about new (SoonߦùߦÉ) features and why they are so exciting, but only CCP Seagull invited us to close our eyes and "imagine" something new. This is also very important because there is no certainty in anything that will be developed, but there is a promise, a hope, a cause that we can follow in the comming expansions. She didn't spend time talking about how "awesome" things will be, instead she seeded our minds with passion for the unknown, something that CCP has been failing to do, or not even trying to, for some time now...
Question: And what the "trust" thing have to do with it?
Answer: Well, it has a lot to do with it.
Again, we can't be certain if CCP will really develop some part of this new [misterious] universe CCP Seagull is promising us, but I do passionately believe that *she* is going to do all she can to make it come reality. Because she feels it, she wants this deep in her soul. It doesn't seemed to me she was reading a script to get us all excited, instead she was openheartedly talking about things that are very clear in her mind, things that touch our dreams and will make us not only play the game, but live its universe. And this is also her dreams universe.
I'd like to say much more, but most of this is pure emotion that I just wanted to share with you fellow capsuleers.
CCP, congratulations for having someone like CCP Seagull. We should all admire people who work with this level of passion! |
Rees Noturana
Red Rock Mining Company
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Posted - 2013.04.29 01:42:00 -
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+1
She seemed a bit nervous but powered through it and delivered. -á |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2013.04.29 01:56:00 -
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Rees Noturana wrote:+1
She seemed a bit nervous but powered through it and delivered.
2nd-ing. There is much to be said in favour of modern journalism. By giving us the opinions of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community.-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde |
Alexandra Stormwing
Silver Octopus Infernal Octopus
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Posted - 2013.04.29 01:57:00 -
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She is amazing. I am confident that Eve is in very good hands. |
Psychotic Monk
Wings of the Nebulae
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Posted - 2013.04.29 02:00:00 -
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Seagull is one of my favorite devs. Monk for CSM Belligerent Undesirables Blog. |
Zhade Lezte
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.29 02:01:00 -
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Clearly giving a damn goes a lot further than seeming confident or whatnot. Thumbs up. |
Some Rando
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.29 02:02:00 -
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Confirming that Seagull is p cool and I'm happy to see the future of EVE in her hands. CCP has no sense of humour. |
Galphii
Clandestine Vector THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2013.04.29 02:11:00 -
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You could see she was a little nervous at first, not just at fanfest but in one of the interview segments they did over the last month (eve development I think). But after a minute or two of speaking, all that vanished and her truly creative and passionate thoughts came through loud and clear. I can see why she was picked to take over from Unifex, and are eager to see and hear more from her on the future of eve X |
Rovinia
Exotic Dancers Union SONS of BANE
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Posted - 2013.04.29 02:21:00 -
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I also like her. She's not very good in public presentation, allways need a bit of time to "warm up". You can see the nervousness when she starts to speak. But she makes that up with competence.
I think she does a really good job and leads the game into the right direction. |
UKBigWolf
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Posted - 2013.04.29 02:34:00 -
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I simply agree with all the above tbh |
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Zeko Rena
ENCOM Industries
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Posted - 2013.04.29 02:37:00 -
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She did excellent I wouldn't be able to speak in front of that many people I know that much! |
Ten Bulls
Sons of Olsagard
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Posted - 2013.04.29 02:45:00 -
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Agree, CCP Seagull is awesome for the big picture view she brings to CCP.
She has even managed to tame CCP Soundwave (she must have magical powers), even he was proclaiming to be tolerant of non-PvP playstyles.
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Lost True
Paradise project
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Posted - 2013.04.29 03:19:00 -
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I agree. The eve should have a bad and good side.
For now there is only the bad one, and a little bit of good. Maybe there's also shoud be some good game styles for casual players, so there will be less fat no-lifers.
I'm also looking forward to this mainly because it's about the people who playing the game... If it's too harsh, dark, evil, then it'll attracts the certain type of people, while other people will just quit. For now i have many negative impressions while interacting with the community. The good ones is mostly with high-sec people not from my corp :) It's not about ISK loss or gain, just the people. Because i can successfuly fly in the fleet with good FC, which are good in this game but who i dislike as a persons and just keep silent most of the time. So if there will be something big that attracts the right type of people, less sociopaths and more sci-fi fans and RL-successful, positive people, it'll be MUCH better game for me.
Also the theme of the odyssey is amazing, and the future plans for it. The new trailer makes me remember why i've sterted to play this game in the first place and what i thought this game is about.
So i'm very glad we have CCP Seagull to direct this game. This game needs a new approach loooooooooong ago. in 2007 i've thought it's a sci-fi simulator, not an "e-sports" game. I'm not a teenager, how would i like it much? [-á-¦-¦-Ç-â-é-+-+-¦] -£-¦-¦-+-+-+-¦ -¦-+-Ç-+-+-Ç-¦-å-+-Å Transtellar |
Jarod Garamonde
Action Bastards
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Posted - 2013.04.29 03:25:00 -
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CCP Formerly Known as Kil2 is godlike. If I am logged onto TQ, I'm probably drunk. You've been warned. |
criativa
Zugleich Techniken
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Posted - 2013.04.29 12:02:00 -
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Lost True wrote:I agree. The eve should have a bad and good side. For now there is only the bad one, and a little bit of good. Maybe there's also shoud be some good game styles for casual players, so there will be less fat no-lifers. I'm also looking forward to this mainly because it's about the people who playing the game... If it's too harsh, dark, evil, then it'll attracts the certain type of people, while other people will just quit. For now i have many negative impressions while interacting with the community. The good ones is mostly with high-sec people not from my corp :) It's not about ISK loss or gain, just the people. Because i can successfuly fly in the fleet with good FC, which are good in this game but who i dislike as a persons and just keep silent most of the time. So if there will be something big that attracts the right type of people, less sociopaths and more sci-fi fans and RL-successful, positive people, it'll be MUCH better game for me. Also the theme of the odyssey is amazing, and the future plans for it. The new trailer makes me remember why i've sterted to play this game in the first place and what i thought this game is about. So i'm very glad we have CCP Seagull to direct this game. This game needs a new approach loooooooooong ago.
I don't think EVE have mostly bad sides, there are a lot of good ones too. I'm sure there are people who feel very frustrated when they are gate camped, but I'm also sure that people who gate camp have a wonderful time doing it. So the real bad thing about this event is that the camper and the camped didn't share the same interests, and thats all. In many cases the camped ones also enjoy the thrill of escaping (or even fighting back) the campers, and this is also "working as intended" as some might say. There are many other examples, but I believe this one is very generic and easy to understand.
I do agree that EVE should have more casual (solo) content. Many players criticize who like this saying that "you are failing at playing a MMO: a game that at its very concept should be played with others", but I believe that many, including me, also play EVE because of its universe and not because of its PvP/PvE group mechanics specifically. I do enjoy a good PvP, and have a lot of fun with PvE sometimes, but I also like to wander about life and the universe when mining or warping/jumping through systems as there is no way I can do this in real life, and I love science and science fiction. |
Karsa Egivand
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.04.29 12:06:00 -
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I think she is doing a very good job. And yes, she isn' the best presenter (nor am I, when speaking in front of hundreds of people). But she hasn't been hired to do a speech once in a year, but to deliver in terms of EveOnlines development in general. And there she seems do be doing an excellent job (me thinks, I am not working there, after all...). |
Felicity Love
STARKRAFT Joint Venture Conglomerate
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Posted - 2013.04.29 12:15:00 -
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CCP Seagull has a skill, a "gift" if you will, for making the listener feel they are part of the conversation or presentation.
People will rarely listen to you, or hear what you say, if that ability is lacking.
An excellent presentation.
Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |
Lucy Oreless
Raptus-Regaliter EntroPraetorian Aegis
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Posted - 2013.04.29 12:33:00 -
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Do so agree in this! Never before have i been more exited for the future of EVE Seagull for president!
I did actually stand up from my chair and applauded loudly when she was on (both times i watched her)..and i was home alone
_____________________________________________________________________________________ -áI did not have sexual relations to THAT woman.... |
Pepper Solette
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.29 12:45:00 -
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Felicity Love wrote:CCP Seagull has a skill, a "gift" if you will, for making the listener feel they are part of the conversation or presentation. People will rarely listen to you, or hear what you say, if that ability is lacking. An excellent presentation.
Hear hear! I enjoyed her presentation a great deal. If this is what the future of EvE brings, it's a pretty bright future indeed. |
UKBigWolf
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Posted - 2013.04.29 12:49:00 -
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criativa wrote: I don't think EVE have mostly bad sides, there are a lot of good ones too. I'm sure there are people who feel very frustrated when they are gate camped, but I'm also sure that people who gate camp have a wonderful time doing it. So the real bad thing about this event is that the camper and the camped didn't share the same interests, and thats all. In many cases the camped ones also enjoy the thrill of escaping (or even fighting back) the campers, and this is also "working as intended" as some might say. There are many other examples, but I believe this one is very generic and easy to understand.
Just to add to this, most people in Eve are decent people. But like everything in life, the negative is what is mostly remembered and talked about, thus amplified (plus the 'bad' people like having the loudest voices) |
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Indahmawar Fazmarai
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Posted - 2013.04.29 13:07:00 -
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Would they dare to add dynamic security space, which could be upgraded or downgraded all the way between 0.5 and 0.0? The Greater Fool Bar-áis now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden!-áIngame chat channel: The Greater Fool Bar |
Choc talar
The Sp00n WHYS0 Expendable
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Posted - 2013.04.29 13:24:00 -
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+1 here as well.
CCP Seagul helped us all to see the passion we feel for the game again, but not just the passion she helped us see the wonder again as well. It is refreshing to see a dev who comes across as passionate about what they are doing. She also helped us all feel that we the EVE players are also creating a game along with them in everything we do, be it PvP, PvE, industrial, exploration, etc. The passion that came through in her presentation was contagious IMO and is something not seen from any other MMO development team.
Props OP for bringing this topic to us, and your English is fine by the way! |
Random Majere
Epsilon Lyr Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2013.04.29 14:04:00 -
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Presenting in front of a big audience is a LOT of people`s dark beast. CCP Seagul did a great job. Despite the little signs of nervousness, you can tell she believes what she says and is passionate about what she is working on. And that is all that matters.
She is also very hot looking!! |
Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
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Posted - 2013.04.29 14:12:00 -
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CCP Seagull seems like one of those people that you work with who knows just about everything there is to know about their given profession and honestly enjoys their job. I would imagine it would be a pleasure to work with her. Not today spaghetti. |
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CCP Bayesian
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Posted - 2013.04.29 14:16:00 -
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Sexy Cakes wrote:CCP Seagull seems like one of those people that you work with who knows just about everything there is to know about their given profession and honestly enjoys their job. I would imagine it would be a pleasure to work with her.
She is and it is.
I also sent her a link to this thread full of nice people saying nice things.
EVE Software Engineer Team Prototyping Rocks |
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Robus Muvila
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
256
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Posted - 2013.04.29 14:24:00 -
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Would you look at that. A whole 2 pages without anything creepy as all hell.
Kinda makes you proud.
No wait no it doesn't. TMC Senior Developer http://themittani.com - Because EvE has needed a proper news site for ages |
Balkor Wolf
101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2013.04.29 14:30:00 -
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Robus Muvila wrote:Would you look at that. A whole 2 pages without anything creepy as all hell.
Yet...
Also I pretty much agree with what others have said, she seemed nervous but it didn't hinder her and did a great job overall. |
Masuka Taredi
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.04.29 14:34:00 -
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+1 also Op. A prime example of a dev that cares. |
Jonas Sukarala
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.04.29 14:44:00 -
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mm... i liked here vision of corps raiding each others pos ... i would like to hear how she is going to make this viable as atm you would just get blobbed and there isn't much in the way of a small raiding skirmish...
i would think of a raid as say being 20 -30 man mobile gang that perhaps would come and hack various modules that would then allow you to loot much like the hacking demo at fanfest for exploration sites could work in the same fashion as its unrealistic to expect you to try to destroy the structures.
Also in terms of POS cities they could help make it possible if the structures were sprawled out over long distances say 300km basically a grid. Or maybe complex's could separate structures into rooms.. 'Tech3 ships need to be put down, like a rabid dog drooling everywhere in the house, they are out of line' CCP Ytterbium Nerf missile range into place..... where is the TD missile change?-á ,...projectiles should use capacitor. |
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.29 14:46:00 -
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Robus Muvila wrote:Would you look at that. A whole 2 pages without anything creepy as all hell.
Wait till they start a thread on CCP Sunset .. This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless |
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