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Maul555
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Posted - 2013.04.30 19:01:00 -
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Quote:We will also be making a significant change to the way hidden asteroid belts will be found by players. We are phasing out the Gravimetric signature category, and instead pilots will be able to find all Ore Sites using their shipGÇÖs built-in anomaly scanning equipment. This change will make finding hidden belts much less difficult for both miners and for those who would prey on them, so pilots are always advised to practice vigilance.
Is this going to effect WH space too? Are you telling me that probes will no longer be needed to hunt miners in wormholes? This makes "practicing vigilance" nearly impossible if true. |
Maul555
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Posted - 2013.04.30 19:14:00 -
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And are you people telling me that Raren is losing its ice belt? wtf guys!!! thats my home your ******* with.... |
Maul555
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Posted - 2013.04.30 19:16:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:Crexa wrote:Maul555 wrote:Quote:We will also be making a significant change to the way hidden asteroid belts will be found by players. We are phasing out the Gravimetric signature category, and instead pilots will be able to find all Ore Sites using their shipGÇÖs built-in anomaly scanning equipment. This change will make finding hidden belts much less difficult for both miners and for those who would prey on them, so pilots are always advised to practice vigilance. Is this going to effect WH space too? Are you telling me that probes will no longer be needed to hunt miners in wormholes? This makes "practicing vigilance" nearly impossible if true. Which has been said over and over in this thread with no response. Actually there has been a response: "We want more conflict". But if all miners simply feel outmatched they will retreat to high and secured null, resulting in less conflict. In W you will need to lock down the system before mining. Also: mine in pairs. Have each barge double web the other. Align to your POS. The webs will allow you to be at warp speed without flying away from the roid. When someone warps on grid or uncloaks the fleet commander warps you to the POS. As you are at speed the warp is immediate. (Yes its still a race to warp before you are pointed). Every time you go to the POS to dump return to a different roid. That will give you time to get to warp speed before any cloaked ship gets close enough to attack. All that will help. A Little. I'm not sure it will help enough.
There needs to be a place for solo miners in wormhole space. I cannot lock down a system by myself, and I am very often the only person in my corp that is logged in some evenings... My only recourse has been to pay attention, but now that will not work either. a cloaked ship can find me with no signs of their presence. I am farked... just plain farked... |
Maul555
Nuts and Vindictive Remix Technologies
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Posted - 2013.04.30 23:15:00 -
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Crexa wrote:Sizeof Void wrote:Chris Winter wrote: Right now, mining in WHs is only barely safe by virtue of your opponents needing to get probes out to find you, and an experienced prober can still find you with the probes only being visible on dscan for less than 30 seconds. But that still gives the victim--I mean, miner--a small chance to spot the probes and GTFO before it's too late.
With grav sites being anoms, you have only a few seconds' window to spot the attacker (if their incoming wh is within dscan range, the short period between wh cloak and true cloak), or no window at all. There is no reasonable room for pilots to "practice vigilance" outside of gimping your yield by replacing one of your strip miners with a scan probe launcher. A 50% yield loss makes it a waste of time.
The rest of the changes look good, but mining in WHs will become significantly more dangerous in Odyssey if ore sites become anomalies.
So, mining in WH becomes almost as dangerous as mining in NO high-sec? Don't see the problem... :) IT becomes a whole hell'ava lot MORE dangerous. As there is no warning, no chance of escape and NO FRIGGIN LOCAL! The roids in WH better spit out billions in pure isk, to make it worth while with these changes. I **** you not!
Yup... As a WH mininer for the past 3 years who currently lives in a C4, I will be stockpiling "cheap/disposable" mining barges to deal with the coming onslaught. I should probably skill my scan alts better, as I will probably be needing to find my way back into the WH very often now. My WH Hulk and Mackinaw will never undock again... I will probably just ship them back to highsec for safe storage. |
Maul555
Nuts and Vindictive Remix Technologies
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Posted - 2013.05.01 23:24:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:There's a group of people thinking we're "boiling the frog" to try and kill highsec, and there's a group of people who think we're "boiling the frog" to try and make highsec dominate the game.
True fact: no frogs will be harmed in the making of this expansion.
If I paint frogs all over my barges, will you rethink this whole grav site change in wormholes?
/pretty please? //with sugar on top? ///I have cherries... |
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