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rswfire
Firesworn Firesworn Nation
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Posted - 2013.04.20 07:03:00 -
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If Goons and Test are such elite PvP'ers, then why is it that they do so horribly against small gang PvP corps in highsec? They are repeatedly shown to be incompetent by people like Whores in Space, Marmite, and many others. I look at the war reports and it's always extremely lopsided in favor of the highsec PvP'ers. (Note this does not apply to all nullsec alliances; some are more competent then others.) They talk like they are the best at what they do, but the data does not back that up. Obviously, warfare in highsec is different than it is in nullsec, but if you're going to act like highsec is full of carebears who can't fight and that you're supremely better than them, then you need to prevent all the losses you take from those in highsec who actually can PvP and constantly give it to you in the rear end. That is all.
(For those who want to attack my KB, feel free. Never claimed to be an elite PvP'er.) We are the other side of Eve...the human side. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=182994 http://www.firesworn.com/index.php?/topic/69-about-firesworn-nation/ |
rswfire
Firesworn Firesworn Nation
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Posted - 2013.04.20 07:26:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:is this irony?
Not at all. Just a fully straightforward statement. When a person doesn't have a good argument, they generally like to make comments like this one. Absent that, I suppose you just deflect by saying things like, "Whoever said we were." We are the other side of Eve...the human side. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=182994 http://www.firesworn.com/index.php?/topic/69-about-firesworn-nation/ |
rswfire
Firesworn Firesworn Nation
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Posted - 2013.04.20 07:36:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:i think it is, based on the fact that you did just attack their KB (edit: or war history, same thing) while they never claimed to be elite pvp...
*shrug*
I see. So you're hung up over a word. Feel free to replace it with any synonym that you feel would be applicable. There are plenty to choose from. We are the other side of Eve...the human side. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=182994 http://www.firesworn.com/index.php?/topic/69-about-firesworn-nation/ |
rswfire
Firesworn Firesworn Nation
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Posted - 2013.04.20 08:19:00 -
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AndromacheDarkstar wrote:rswfire wrote:Dave Stark wrote:i think it is, based on the fact that you did just attack their KB (edit: or war history, same thing) while they never claimed to be elite pvp...
*shrug* I see. So you're hung up over a word. Feel free to replace it with any synonym that you feel would be applicable. There are plenty to choose from. Your an idiot, think a little more about what you have said.
You'll have to elaborate, since I'm apparently too much of an idiot to know what it is you feel I said wrong. Also, I'd expect this sort of response from someone blue to Goons. And, look at that signature of yours. Clearly, I've hit a nerve with you. I did happen to mention that some corps are better than others, did I not? At any rate, I was simply stating a fact. We are the other side of Eve...the human side. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=182994 http://www.firesworn.com/index.php?/topic/69-about-firesworn-nation/ |
rswfire
Firesworn Firesworn Nation
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Posted - 2013.04.20 09:09:00 -
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Andski wrote:Our guys already bagged a Providence that exceeded last year's most valuable kill, and we still have two days to go. But continue madposting about how much you do not care and how Burn Jita literally doesn't matter at all to anyone (except everyone who is spending their weekend shooting every suspect flag in Jita, everyone losing a pod, everyone losing a freighter, and so on)
I saw you take out a jump freighter earlier that had all of 1m in its cargo. Can't say I feel sorry for that guy. There really is no cure for stupid, is there? From my perspective, you can come to Jita and have your fun and when the weekend is over, you'll still be as irrelevant to us as you already are. That's about as much "caring" as I can muster. Hope it's enough to satisfy your ego. :) We are the other side of Eve...the human side. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=182994 http://www.firesworn.com/index.php?/topic/69-about-firesworn-nation/ |
rswfire
Firesworn Firesworn Nation
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Posted - 2013.04.20 09:17:00 -
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Andski wrote:nope i don't care about goons they don't matter to me I CAN'T HEAR YOU LA LA LA
*madposts in a burn jita thread*
"lol"
If that's how you choose to interpret my posts, I'm okay with that. We are the other side of Eve...the human side. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=182994 http://www.firesworn.com/index.php?/topic/69-about-firesworn-nation/ |
rswfire
Firesworn Firesworn Nation
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Posted - 2013.04.20 09:41:00 -
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dark heartt wrote:flakeys wrote: Your like cockroaches andski , sure in packs your nasty but on on your own your stomped on within a blink.
Why does everyone always call the Goons cockroaches? It's like a new version of Godwins law or something.
Well, just think about a cockroach for a minute. They're disgusting as hell, you don't want to be anywhere near them for fear of getting a disease, and they're damned near impossible to get rid of because they breed worse than rabbits. Just one theory anyway. :) We are the other side of Eve...the human side. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=182994 http://www.firesworn.com/index.php?/topic/69-about-firesworn-nation/ |
rswfire
Firesworn Firesworn Nation
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Posted - 2013.04.20 09:48:00 -
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Robus Muvila wrote:I'm nowhere near Jita,, I have nothing to do with Jita. Goon's are only bothered with Jita this weekend, I won't be affected by Burn Jita Check Mate Goonbutts
We operate near Jita. I don't see any reason to pretend like your presence there isn't an issue for us (to some degree...a small one, anyway). But in the grand scheme of things, it's truly irrelevant. You keep posting about how we don't care insinuating that we do...but what you're really doing is crying out for us to care, because deep down you know we really don't. You want us to think you're special; you're looking for validation. You'll be looking for those things for a long time. We are the other side of Eve...the human side. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=182994 http://www.firesworn.com/index.php?/topic/69-about-firesworn-nation/ |
rswfire
Firesworn Firesworn Nation
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Posted - 2013.04.20 12:42:00 -
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Voyager Arran wrote:I am amused that your champions of the noble warrior's spirit are people that never leave dock range.
I'm amused this propaganda still works.
Unfortunately for you, I know better. We are the other side of Eve...the human side. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=182994 http://www.firesworn.com/index.php?/topic/69-about-firesworn-nation/ |
rswfire
Firesworn Firesworn Nation
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Posted - 2013.04.20 12:45:00 -
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Andski wrote:hint those are the ones who filled oceans with their tears when CCP nerfed their beloved neutral logistics and orca swapping
making any effort to fight them in hisec is a waste of everybody's time
Marmite alone has destroyed 100B of your assets and over 500 ships:
http://p0wnd.nl/kb/index.php/cc_detail/73/
So it's a waste of time to protect your ISK and your mates?
Okay, then. We are the other side of Eve...the human side. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=182994 http://www.firesworn.com/index.php?/topic/69-about-firesworn-nation/ |
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rswfire
Firesworn Firesworn Nation
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Posted - 2013.04.20 13:29:00 -
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Nex apparatu5 wrote:That's less than the cost of a single titan, and it took them 300 days to do it.
Let's be honest, you cant think that damage means anything at all for goons.
If it doesn't, then why do they cry about it in the C&P section under the merc threads? Anyway, that was just one example, from one alliance. And it's really not about the ISK. In that same time period, they've killed around 24 ships vs. 500. That was my original point when I posted in this thread.
People can make fun of highsec warfare, but I think in some ways it is more difficult, and they require different tactics and compositions. I think that being good at one doesn't make you good at the other, and I think the reports show that. So I think that when people in null make fun of those that live in highsec, they're being disingenuous.
It's not safe in highsec. It's "safer" but there is a ton of griefing here, and very competent PvP'ers who cause a lot of damage to others. And clearly, not even Goons are immune to it. When they start admitting that instead of complaining or pretending like highsec is some sort of peaceful paradise, then I really wouldn't have any issue at all. We are the other side of Eve...the human side. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=182994 http://www.firesworn.com/index.php?/topic/69-about-firesworn-nation/ |
rswfire
Firesworn Firesworn Nation
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Posted - 2013.04.20 18:18:00 -
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Trendon Evenstar wrote:I'm not feeling trolled yet guys, try harder thanks
Sixth post in a row from a Goon. You guys are basically talking to yourselves -- and now you're begging for attention. Classy. We are the other side of Eve...the human side. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=182994 http://www.firesworn.com/index.php?/topic/69-about-firesworn-nation/ |
rswfire
Firesworn Firesworn Nation
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Posted - 2013.04.20 18:43:00 -
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Andski wrote:Yeah, like I said, the decbear alliances are literally more risk-averse than incursion bears. Trying to fight a bunch of station-hugging scrubs to protect a bunch of idiots who fly into hisec with in-alliance characters (everything that matters is done with neutral alts, fyi) is a waste of our time.
Please don't opine on anything that doesn't concern whatever single part of the game you've focused all of your attention on in years of playing (mining, perhaps?)
You're afraid to do "anything that matters" with your main characters? You need even more anonymity? Fascinating. You'd make an excellent case study. For what, I don't know. Something, though.
Xython wrote:Delicious tears in this thread. My favorite are the smoky mesquite flavored "I don't care so much that I posted in this thread about how much I don't care" tears.
You'd have to dig pretty deep to come up with some rationale for calling anything in this thread "tears."
Also, it's already been pointed out, quite aply, that just posting in a thread does not constitute "caring."
For example, I'm replying to you, but I have no attachment to you at all. You're a completely anonymous individual, to whom I've never had any previous interaction with. How could I possibly care about your opinion? You are basically a hanful of text to me at this point.
I do find amusement though in your belief that I care, and that this constitutes tears.
Does amusement equal caring? This is something I will need to ponder. We are the other side of Eve...the human side. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=182994 http://www.firesworn.com/index.php?/topic/69-about-firesworn-nation/ |
rswfire
Firesworn Firesworn Nation
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Posted - 2013.04.20 19:04:00 -
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Ryu Ibarazaki wrote:knobber Jobbler wrote:saltrock0000 wrote:
Very true, but how cool would it be to take down their "flagship system" so to speak, and stop them ganking there... Watch the mittani blog about that ;)
Please do come to vfk, bring friends too. Seriously this. Bomber's Bar and Brave Newbies put a fleet together and traveled to VFK for a fight fairly recently and everyone had a great time. We lasted about 1 minute and 20 seconds but the explosions were awesome. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=17247953Now you probibly won't stop Burn Jita... lol. But VFK is more fun than this message board. Good luck withstanding these withering troll attacks, Goons.
You guys are pretty cool. You haven't changed at all, which is awesome. :) We are the other side of Eve...the human side. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=182994 http://www.firesworn.com/index.php?/topic/69-about-firesworn-nation/ |
rswfire
Firesworn Firesworn Nation
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Posted - 2013.04.20 20:00:00 -
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Andski wrote:rswfire wrote:You're afraid to do "anything that matters" with your main characters? You need even more anonymity? Fascinating. You'd make an excellent case study. For what, I don't know. Something, though. can you read nothing of importance is hauled to hisec with an in-alliance character, the only ones who do that are idiots but hey keep trying to be clever, you'll still be wrong ))
You edited your post to take out the part where you said you used freighter alts. Odd that you felt the need to change it.
Yeah, I can read. And I read the post before your ninja edit also. :) We are the other side of Eve...the human side. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=182994 http://www.firesworn.com/index.php?/topic/69-about-firesworn-nation/ |
rswfire
Firesworn Firesworn Nation
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Posted - 2013.04.20 20:17:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:I use freighter alts all the time, because I'm not dumb.
So do I. Which is why I'm surprised he edited it. :P We are the other side of Eve...the human side. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=182994 http://www.firesworn.com/index.php?/topic/69-about-firesworn-nation/ |
rswfire
Firesworn Firesworn Nation
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Posted - 2013.04.20 20:56:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:I fail to see the significance, but then again people who ~blatantly don't care~ certainly never interpret the smallest detail as an important piece in some giant conspiracy.
I know you're used to people thinking a lot of conspiracies about your group, but I'm not one of them. For what it's worth, I'm just having a bit of fun with you guys. You're the ones who keep this going. I had stopped a page or two back, but after six posts, I just felt compelled to respond.
I honestly don't care about Jita Burn, not in a bad way. I find it interesting, but less entertaining than it could be. Personally, I think you should be less selective about your targets and really have some fun. If you're there to "Burn Jita" then you should do so. Right now, you're just "Ganking Freighters in Jita." <3 We are the other side of Eve...the human side. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=182994 http://www.firesworn.com/index.php?/topic/69-about-firesworn-nation/ |
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