Pages: [1] 2 :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Ager Agemo
Imperial Collective
248
|
Posted - 2013.03.24 04:23:00 -
[1] - Quote
and only ******* 2 million kilometers of area destroyed!? what the **** was that titan made of? empty aluminium?
an object that size regardless of the speed and with the expected density should have anhilated half that planet population just on impact i mean it was orbiting at well over 1000 kms, that planet being similar to earth would make that piece accelerate to ludicrously high speeds and with that density... JUST 2 million kilometers!? and cosmetic damage to some buildings?
dont you read the news, this year a ******* 10 meter meteor passed by, it just passed over russia and blew the windows of all the city, given mass increases damage on a linear scale, dont you think the damage should be way higher? |
Sentamon
786
|
Posted - 2013.03.24 04:25:00 -
[2] - Quote
Ager Agemo wrote:and only ******* 2 million kilometers of area destroyed!? what the **** was that titan made of? empty aluminium?
an object that size regardless of the speed and with the expected density should have anhilated half that planet population just on impact i mean it was orbiting at well over 1000 kms, that planet being similar to earth would make that piece accelerate to ludicrously high speeds and with that density... JUST 2 million kilometers!? and cosmetic damage to some buildings?
dont you read the news, this year a ******* 10 meter meteor passed by, it just passed over russia and blew the windows of all the city, given mass increases damage on a linear scale, dont you think the damage should be way higher?
small diff between falling at 200mph and 30,000mph .. just a small one ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Ager Agemo
Imperial Collective
248
|
Posted - 2013.03.24 04:47:00 -
[3] - Quote
Sentamon wrote:Ager Agemo wrote:and only ******* 2 million kilometers of area destroyed!? what the **** was that titan made of? empty aluminium?
an object that size regardless of the speed and with the expected density should have anhilated half that planet population just on impact i mean it was orbiting at well over 1000 kms, that planet being similar to earth would make that piece accelerate to ludicrously high speeds and with that density... JUST 2 million kilometers!? and cosmetic damage to some buildings?
dont you read the news, this year a ******* 10 meter meteor passed by, it just passed over russia and blew the windows of all the city, given mass increases damage on a linear scale, dont you think the damage should be way higher? small diff between falling at 200mph and 30,000mph .. just a small one
given 1 thousand kilometers to accelerate... without resistance, the impact speed will be several times the speed of sound actually... |
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
1194
|
Posted - 2013.03.24 04:49:00 -
[4] - Quote
http://impact.ese.ic.ac.uk/ImpactEffects/
Your Inputs: Distance from Impact: 10.00 km ( = 6.21 miles ) Projectile diameter: 7.00 km ( = 4.35 miles ) Projectile Density: 8000 kg/m3 Impact Velocity: 200.00 meters per second ( = 656.00 feet per second ) Impact Angle: 90 degrees Target Density: 2500 kg/m3 Target Type: Sedimentary Rock
Energy: Energy before atmospheric entry: 2.87 x 1019 Joules = 6.86 x 103 MegaTons TNT
Transient Crater Diameter: 79.1 km ( = 49.1 miles ) Transient Crater Depth: 28 km ( = 17.4 miles )
Final Crater Diameter: 141 km ( = 87.3 miles ) Final Crater Depth: 1.31 km ( = 0.814 miles ) The crater formed is a complex crater. The volume of the target melted or vaporized is 2340 km3 = 561 miles3 Roughly half the melt remains in the crater, where its average thickness is 476 meters ( = 1560 feet ).
Not so much a cool skybox for the DUST bunnies as it would be game over for the DUST bunnies. Live Events are neither. |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
759
|
Posted - 2013.03.24 04:54:00 -
[5] - Quote
Ager Agemo wrote:[quote=Sentamon]
given 1 thousand kilometers to accelerate... without resistance, the impact speed will be several times the speed of sound actually...
You forgot to add in the anti-gravitic/inertia distorion fied generators that slowed it down Ripard Teg-á for CSM 8 Disclaimer: CCP Bias is a fictional character. In case that some CCP Bias does exist,-áis he an ex-goon? |
Ager Agemo
Imperial Collective
248
|
Posted - 2013.03.24 04:56:00 -
[6] - Quote
DarthNefarius wrote:Ager Agemo wrote:[quote=Sentamon]
given 1 thousand kilometers to accelerate... without resistance, the impact speed will be several times the speed of sound actually... You forgot to add in the anti-gravitic/inertia distorion fied generators that slowed it down
and you forgot the part where the engineering section of the ship that powers it, blew up and thrusted the ship even faster downwards? |
Grendel Sickswitch
18
|
Posted - 2013.03.24 04:58:00 -
[7] - Quote
Ager Agemo wrote:and only ******* 2 million kilometers of area destroyed!? what the **** was that titan made of? empty aluminium?
an object that size regardless of the speed and with the expected density should have anhilated half that planet population just on impact i mean it was orbiting at well over 1000 kms, that planet being similar to earth would make that piece accelerate to ludicrously high speeds and with that density... JUST 2 million kilometers!? and cosmetic damage to some buildings?
dont you read the news, this year a ******* 10 meter meteor passed by, it just passed over russia and blew the windows of all the city, given mass increases damage on a linear scale, dont you think the damage should be way higher?
impressive. the international space station orbits at 7.71 km/s. indeed the speed of light is some 300,000km/s.
i'm curious why the caldari felt the need to orbit their giant spaceship at 1/300th the speed of light.
maybe they wanted it to go so fast no one would see it? |
Nariya Kentaya
Always Negative.
459
|
Posted - 2013.03.24 05:02:00 -
[8] - Quote
Ager Agemo wrote:Sentamon wrote:Ager Agemo wrote:and only ******* 2 million kilometers of area destroyed!? what the **** was that titan made of? empty aluminium?
an object that size regardless of the speed and with the expected density should have anhilated half that planet population just on impact i mean it was orbiting at well over 1000 kms, that planet being similar to earth would make that piece accelerate to ludicrously high speeds and with that density... JUST 2 million kilometers!? and cosmetic damage to some buildings?
dont you read the news, this year a ******* 10 meter meteor passed by, it just passed over russia and blew the windows of all the city, given mass increases damage on a linear scale, dont you think the damage should be way higher? small diff between falling at 200mph and 30,000mph .. just a small one given 1 thousand kilometers to accelerate... without resistance, the impact speed will be several times the speed of sound actually... Thats assuming the ship didnt attempt a controlled descent with its engines/field-generator, you know, to avoid vaporizing a planet? (stuff like that tends to make militaries lok bad, adn if you can attempt to save as many lives as possible, then blame the other army for shooting you down in such close proximity to possible civilians, all the better).
but hoenstly, in any ship as large and advanced as a titan, they would have some sort of setup to keep the ship and crash site as intact as possible to preserve as much salavghe as they can. just saying.
and as for the engineerings ection blowing up...
please tell em you dont believe a ship the size of a small city wouldnt haev abckup systems such to make SURE it didnt get screwed, i mean, titans are KINDA a larg investment for the NPC factions if i recall. |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
759
|
Posted - 2013.03.24 05:05:00 -
[9] - Quote
Ager Agemo wrote:DarthNefarius wrote:Ager Agemo wrote:[quote=Sentamon]
given 1 thousand kilometers to accelerate... without resistance, the impact speed will be several times the speed of sound actually... You forgot to add in the anti-gravitic/inertia distorion fied generators that slowed it down and you forgot the part where the engineering section of the ship that powers it, blew up and thrusted the ship even faster downwards?
Maybe you forgot the forward emergency engineering node all Titans have with last second inertia dampeners, of course Ripard Teg-á for CSM 8 Disclaimer: CCP Bias is a fictional character. In case that some CCP Bias does exist,-áis he an ex-goon? |
Ager Agemo
Imperial Collective
248
|
Posted - 2013.03.24 05:16:00 -
[10] - Quote
Grendel Sickswitch wrote:Ager Agemo wrote:and only ******* 2 million kilometers of area destroyed!? what the **** was that titan made of? empty aluminium?
an object that size regardless of the speed and with the expected density should have anhilated half that planet population just on impact i mean it was orbiting at well over 1000 kms, that planet being similar to earth would make that piece accelerate to ludicrously high speeds and with that density... JUST 2 million kilometers!? and cosmetic damage to some buildings?
dont you read the news, this year a ******* 10 meter meteor passed by, it just passed over russia and blew the windows of all the city, given mass increases damage on a linear scale, dont you think the damage should be way higher? impressive. the international space station orbits at 7.71 km/s. indeed the speed of light is some 300,000km/s. i'm curious why the caldari felt the need to orbit their giant spaceship at 1/300th the speed of light. maybe they wanted it to go so fast no one would see it?
i think i made a lil typo there, i mean that the ship was orbitting above 1 thousand kilometers, not at that speed.
about the inertia dampeners... those actually will make the ship fall faster... inertia prevents an object from accelerating and allows it to maneuver faster with less thrust, and thrust i m 100% certain... was not an option at all on that poor titan. |
|
ACE McFACE
Radical Astronauts Plundering Eve Hopeless Addiction
1147
|
Posted - 2013.03.24 05:27:00 -
[11] - Quote
Ager Agemo wrote:DarthNefarius wrote:Ager Agemo wrote:[quote=Sentamon]
given 1 thousand kilometers to accelerate... without resistance, the impact speed will be several times the speed of sound actually... You forgot to add in the anti-gravitic/inertia distorion fied generators that slowed it down and you forgot the part where the engineering section of the ship that powers it, blew up and thrusted the ship even faster downwards? I think everyone in this thread is forgetting its a game in which you can warp through planets and everything is fine. Plus I haven't checked but do you even know what Caldari Prime's gravity is like? DUST514 isn't on PC because CCP wants 2 different communities influencing each other, not people tabbing out to give themselves Orbital Strikes. (Also they don't want to cannibalise their existing playerbase) |
Thur Barbek
Republic University Minmatar Republic
84
|
Posted - 2013.03.24 05:30:00 -
[12] - Quote
ACE McFACE wrote:Ager Agemo wrote:DarthNefarius wrote:Ager Agemo wrote:[quote=Sentamon]
given 1 thousand kilometers to accelerate... without resistance, the impact speed will be several times the speed of sound actually... You forgot to add in the anti-gravitic/inertia distorion fied generators that slowed it down and you forgot the part where the engineering section of the ship that powers it, blew up and thrusted the ship even faster downwards? I think everyone in this thread is forgetting its a game in which you can warp through planets and everything is fine. Plus I haven't checked but do you even know what Caldari Prime's gravity is like?
Not to mention, eve is submarine physics... so the ship would be slowing down as it crashed. |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
759
|
Posted - 2013.03.24 05:32:00 -
[13] - Quote
Ager Agemo wrote: about the inertia dampeners... those actually will make the ship fall faster... inertia prevents an object from accelerating and allows it to maneuver faster with less thrust, and thrust i m 100% certain... was not an option at all on that poor titan.
Slight typo I meant inertia accelarators then Ripard Teg-á for CSM 8 Disclaimer: CCP Bias is a fictional character. In case that some CCP Bias does exist,-áis he an ex-goon? |
Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
306
|
Posted - 2013.03.24 06:08:00 -
[14] - Quote
Katran Luftschreck wrote:http://impact.ese.ic.ac.uk/ImpactEffects/Your Inputs: Distance from Impact: 10.00 km ( = 6.21 miles ) Projectile diameter: 7.00 km ( = 4.35 miles ) Projectile Density: 8000 kg/m3 Impact Velocity: 200.00 meters per second ( = 656.00 feet per second ) Impact Angle: 90 degrees Target Density: 2500 kg/m3 Target Type: Sedimentary Rock Energy: Energy before atmospheric entry: 2.87 x 1019 Joules = 6.86 x 103 MegaTons TNT Transient Crater Diameter: 79.1 km ( = 49.1 miles ) Transient Crater Depth: 28 km ( = 17.4 miles ) Final Crater Diameter: 141 km ( = 87.3 miles ) Final Crater Depth: 1.31 km ( = 0.814 miles ) The crater formed is a complex crater. The volume of the target melted or vaporized is 2340 km3 = 561 miles3 Roughly half the melt remains in the crater, where its average thickness is 476 meters ( = 1560 feet ). Not so much a cool skybox for the DUST bunnies as it would be game over for the DUST bunnies. I like how you used the parameters for a solid chunk of iron in those calculations, because a titan is a solid chunk of iron right?
You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |
Pr1ncess Alia
Perkone Caldari State
286
|
Posted - 2013.03.24 06:42:00 -
[15] - Quote
If you want to talk realistic physics:
Even a controlled decent of an free object that size would dump so much energy down onto the planet it would be catastrophic.
We fly around in space pudding. Your argument is invalid. |
Diesel47
Bad Men Ltd.
568
|
Posted - 2013.03.24 06:52:00 -
[16] - Quote
I thought EvE ships were suppose to burn up if they entered the atmosphere...
Something to do with titanium.
I'm sure theres some lore reason :P |
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
1195
|
Posted - 2013.03.24 07:10:00 -
[17] - Quote
Falin Whalen wrote:]I like how you used the parameters for a solid chunk of iron in those calculations, because a titan is a solid chunk of iron right?
Hmm... good point. Considering that veldspar apparently weighs 4,000kg per cubic 0.1 meter (40,000 per 1m/3) while iron weighs only 7,874 kg per cubic meter...
333 Veldspar (13,320,000kg) is 33.3 m/3 and refindes 1,000 Tritanium at 0% loss, and 1,000 Tritanium is 10 m/3... so 0.3003003003003003% is what's left, so 70% of the mass is lost in refining...
13,320,000kg x 0.3003003003003003 = exactly 4,000,000kg (freaky, right?)
So 10m/3 of tritanium (1000 units) is 4,000,000kg versus 10m/3 of iron weighing in at 78,740kg (see above).
Assuming tritanium as the base element of a ship (in order to keep from getting too complicated) then we can redo the website with the new numbers and we get:
Your Inputs: Distance from Impact: 10.00 km ( = 6.21 miles ) Projectile diameter: 7.00 km ( = 4.35 miles ) Projectile Density: 400000 kg/m3 Impact Velocity: 200.00 meters per second ( = 656.00 feet per second ) Impact Angle: 90 degrees Target Density: 2500 kg/m3 Target Type: Sedimentary Rock
Energy: Energy before atmospheric entry: 1.44 x 1021 Joules = 3.43 x 105 MegaTons TNT
Transient Crater Diameter: 689 km ( = 428 miles ) Transient Crater Depth: 244 km ( = 151 miles )
Final Crater Diameter: 1620 km ( = 1010 miles ) Final Crater Depth: 2.74 km ( = 1.7 miles ) The crater formed is a complex crater. The volume of the target melted or vaporized is 5.85e+06 km3 = 1.4e+06 miles3 Roughly half the melt remains in the crater, where its average thickness is 15.7 km ( = 9.73 miles ).
BOOM
Of course this assumes that nothing heavier than tritanium is used in the ship's construction and that it doesn't actually accelerate past 200m/2 on atmospheric reentry.
It also assumes that the ship is a sphere. Dang, now I'm curious and will have to pull up the actual Titan stats to do this 100% correct.
Live Events are neither. |
Sharon Anne
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
13
|
Posted - 2013.03.24 07:21:00 -
[18] - Quote
Katran Luftschreck wrote:[quote=Falin Whalen]]....
BOOM
Of course this assumes that nothing heavier than tritanium is used in the ship's construction and that it doesn't actually accelerate past 200m/2 on atmospheric reentry.
It also assumes that the ship is a sphere. Dang, now I'm curious and will have to pull up the actual Titan stats to do this 100% correct.
Yes please do that!
|
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
4470
|
Posted - 2013.03.24 07:28:00 -
[19] - Quote
How much of that mass was lost from the result of the entire ship going boom. Density of the ship is rather small to begin with (I mean not every square inch is covered in mass) then of course all the chucks that blew out of it when the gallente navy was pounding the hell out of it, then more chunkcs that got lost when engineering (forward section of the leviathan it seems) entirely vaporized and I would like to remind everyone that the reactors on all caldari ships are black holes. I wonder how much mass got destroyed in the collaspe. Especially for a ship her size?
What I am trying to say is one half of the ship may have been destroyed in orbit and those scattered peices are what is still raining down on Caldari prime. Chunks as large as some tanks.
Also from the looks of it she hit 15* from the 90* so that's 75* away from 0/180.
|
ACE McFACE
Radical Astronauts Plundering Eve Hopeless Addiction
1149
|
Posted - 2013.03.24 07:42:00 -
[20] - Quote
Katran Luftschreck wrote:Falin Whalen wrote:]I like how you used the parameters for a solid chunk of iron in those calculations, because a titan is a solid chunk of iron right? Hmm... good point. Considering that veldspar apparently weighs 4,000kg per cubic 0.1 meter (40,000 per 1m/3) while iron weighs only 7,874 kg per cubic meter... 333 Veldspar (13,320,000kg) is 33.3 m/3 and refindes 1,000 Tritanium at 0% loss, and 1,000 Tritanium is 10 m/3... so 0.3003003003003003% is what's left, so 70% of the mass is lost in refining... 13,320,000kg x 0.3003003003003003 = exactly 4,000,000kg (freaky, right?) So 10m/3 of tritanium (1000 units) is 4,000,000kg versus 10m/3 of iron weighing in at 78,740kg (see above). Assuming tritanium as the base element of a ship (in order to keep from getting too complicated) then we can redo the website with the new numbers and we get: Your Inputs: Distance from Impact: 10.00 km ( = 6.21 miles ) Projectile diameter: 7.00 km ( = 4.35 miles ) Projectile Density: 400000 kg/m3 Impact Velocity: 200.00 meters per second ( = 656.00 feet per second ) Impact Angle: 90 degrees Target Density: 2500 kg/m3 Target Type: Sedimentary Rock Energy: Energy before atmospheric entry: 1.44 x 1021 Joules = 3.43 x 105 MegaTons TNT Transient Crater Diameter: 689 km ( = 428 miles ) Transient Crater Depth: 244 km ( = 151 miles ) Final Crater Diameter: 1620 km ( = 1010 miles ) Final Crater Depth: 2.74 km ( = 1.7 miles ) The crater formed is a complex crater. The volume of the target melted or vaporized is 5.85e+06 km3 = 1.4e+06 miles3 Roughly half the melt remains in the crater, where its average thickness is 15.7 km ( = 9.73 miles ). BOOMOf course this assumes that nothing heavier than tritanium is used in the ship's construction and that it doesn't actually accelerate past 200m/2 on atmospheric reentry. It also assumes that the ship is a sphere. Dang, now I'm curious and will have to pull up the actual Titan stats to do this 100% correct. You've already done enough. DUST514 isn't on PC because CCP wants 2 different communities influencing each other, not people tabbing out to give themselves Orbital Strikes. (Also they don't want to cannibalise their existing playerbase) |
|
Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
1136
|
Posted - 2013.03.24 08:22:00 -
[21] - Quote
So much bad physics in this thread~
The veldspar / tritanium density calculations are just plain full re... ahem. And then using that to calculate titan mass with the assumption that the titan is a solid block of tritanium. Nyan |
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
1196
|
Posted - 2013.03.24 08:36:00 -
[22] - Quote
Luckily it is even easier with the actual Titan information, and a million times more screwy too!
Leviathan 2,430,000,000 kg (5,357,232,971 lbs) 132,500,000 m/3
18.33962264150943kg per m3
So whatever this ship is made out of, apparently it's only 0.002339% the mass of iron and only 0.000458% that of tritanium. WTF?!
Still, it's volume (if it was a sphere) now comes out to 132,500km of matter. A bit odd for a ship "only" 18km in length...
Then we use the ship art to figure out it's real measurements...
18,056m long = 1750 pixels = 10.31771 m/p 340 pixels = 3,508m high 132,500,000 / 10.31771 / 3508.023 = 3660.749 wide 3508 + 3660 / 2 = 3584m = 11758.530183727 feet average
And falling from 400km drop (Same altitude as the International Space Station)
400km = 1312335.9580052 feet
Terminal Velocity = 1339.255 feet/s or 408.204924 m/s
Sooooo.... we've got the size, the mass, the angle and the speed... let's see what happens now...
Your Inputs: Distance from Impact: 10.00 km ( = 6.21 miles ) Projectile diameter: 133000.00 km ( = 82300.00 miles ) Projectile Density: 18 kg/m3 Impact Velocity: 408.00 meters per second ( = 1340.00 feet per second ) Impact Angle: 45 degrees Target Density: 2500 kg/m3 Target Type: Sedimentary Rock
Energy: Energy before atmospheric entry: 1.83 x 1030 Joules = 4.36 x 1014 MegaTons TNT
(That's 77.56 x Czar Bomba)
Major Global Changes: Depending on the direction and location the collision, the impact may make a very small change in the tilt of Earth's axis (< half a degree). Depending on the direction and location of impact, the collision may cause a change in the length of the day of up to 137 hours.
Crater Dimensions:
Transient Crater Diameter: 1840 km ( = 1140 miles ) Transient Crater Depth: 652 km ( = 405 miles )
Final Crater Diameter: 4930 km ( = 3060 miles ) Final Crater Depth: 3.83 km ( = 2.38 miles )
So either Caldari Prime is totally foooooked, I'm reading this wrong or CCP is even worse at math than I am. Live Events are neither. |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
1358
|
Posted - 2013.03.24 10:39:00 -
[23] - Quote
Katran Luftschreck wrote:Luckily it is even easier with the actual Titan information, and a million times more screwy too! Leviathan 2,430,000,000 kg (5,357,232,971 lbs) 132,500,000 m/3 18.33962264150943kg per m3 So whatever this ship is made out of, apparently it's only 0.002339% the mass of iron and only 0.000458% that of tritanium. WTF?! Still, it's volume (if it was a sphere) now comes out to 132,500km of matter. A bit odd for a ship "only" 18km in length... Then we use the ship art to figure out it's real measurements... 18,056m long = 1750 pixels = 10.31771 m/p 340 pixels = 3,508m high 132,500,000 / 10.31771 / 3508.023 = 3660.749 wide 3508 + 3660 / 2 = 3584m = 11758.530183727 feet average And falling from 400km drop (Same altitude as the International Space Station) 400km = 1312335.9580052 feet Terminal Velocity = 1339.255 feet/s or 408.204924 m/s Sooooo.... we've got the size, the mass, the angle and the speed... let's see what happens now... Your Inputs: Distance from Impact: 10.00 km ( = 6.21 miles ) Projectile diameter: 133000.00 km ( = 82300.00 miles ) Projectile Density: 18 kg/m3 Impact Velocity: 408.00 meters per second ( = 1340.00 feet per second ) Impact Angle: 45 degrees Target Density: 2500 kg/m3 Target Type: Sedimentary Rock Energy: Energy before atmospheric entry: 1.83 x 1030 Joules = 4.36 x 1014 MegaTons TNT (That's 77.56 x Czar Bomba) Major Global Changes: Depending on the direction and location the collision, the impact may make a very small change in the tilt of Earth's axis (< half a degree). Depending on the direction and location of impact, the collision may cause a change in the length of the day of up to 137 hours.Crater Dimensions: Transient Crater Diameter: 1840 km ( = 1140 miles ) Transient Crater Depth: 652 km ( = 405 miles ) Final Crater Diameter: 4930 km ( = 3060 miles ) Final Crater Depth: 3.83 km ( = 2.38 miles ) So either Caldari Prime is totally foooooked, I'm reading this wrong or CCP is even worse at math than I am.
Dude, your inputs are beyond awful... your projectile diameter is larger than Earth! The Greater Fool Bar-áis now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden!-áIngame chat channel: The Greater Fool Bar |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
1358
|
Posted - 2013.03.24 11:21:00 -
[24] - Quote
OK, let's forget about CCP bullsh*t and look at some actual nerdness.
Density estimate: will say like an old skyscrapper. Say, the Empire State building. 365,000,000 kg vs 1,047,000 m3 = 364 kg/m3 (rounded up)
Volume estimate: assume a parallelepiped whose dimensions are 18000 x 3500 x 3600 meters = 226,800,000,000 cubic meters. It actually is smaller because of complex geometry but we're just guessing.
226,800,000,000 cubic meters would be the volume of a sphere 3.783 meters in radius = 7566 meters of diameter.
Impact velocity: Will assume 200 km as the altitude. In free fall, the wreck would reach a top speed of 1,435 m/s
We input that to our calculator and the results are:
Quote:Your Inputs:
Distance from Impact: 100.00 km ( = 62.10 miles ) Projectile diameter: 7.57 km ( = 4.70 miles ) Projectile Density: 364 kg/m3 Impact Velocity: 1.44 km per second ( = 0.89 miles per second ) Impact Angle: 90 degrees Target Density: 2500 kg/m3 Target Type: Sedimentary Rock Energy:
Energy before atmospheric entry: 8.50 x 1019 Joules = 2.03 x 104 MegaTons TNT The average interval between impacts of this size somewhere on Earth during the last 4 billion years is 1.7 x 106years Major Global Changes:
The Earth is not strongly disturbed by the impact and loses negligible mass. The impact does not make a noticeable change in the tilt of Earth's axis (< 5 hundreths of a degree). The impact does not shift the Earth's orbit noticeably.
Crater Dimensions:
Transient Crater Diameter: 9.59 km ( = 5.95 miles ) Transient Crater Depth: 3.39 km ( = 2.1 miles )
Final Crater Diameter: 12.9 km ( = 8.03 miles ) Final Crater Depth: 639 meters ( = 2100 feet ) The crater formed is a complex crater. At this impact velocity ( < 12 km/s), little shock melting of the target occurs.
Thermal Radiation:
At this impact velocity ( < 15 km/s), little vaporization occurs; no fireball is created, therefore, there is no thermal radiation damage.
Seismic Effects:
The major seismic shaking will arrive approximately 20 seconds after impact. Richter Scale Magnitude: 7.5 Mercalli Scale Intensity at a distance of 100 km:
VI. Felt by all, many frightened. Some heavy furniture moved; a few instances of fallen plaster. Damage slight.
VII. Damage negligible in buildings of good design and construction; slight to moderate in well-built ordinary structures; considerable damage in poorly built or badly designed structures; some chimneys broken.
Ejecta:
The ejecta will arrive approximately 2.4 minutes after the impact. At your position there is a fine dusting of ejecta with occasional larger fragments Average Ejecta Thickness: 7.54 cm ( = 2.97 inches ) Mean Fragment Diameter: 8.23 cm ( = 3.24 inches )
Air Blast:
The air blast will arrive approximately 5.05 minutes after impact. Peak Overpressure: 47400 Pa = 0.474 bars = 6.73 psi Max wind velocity: 94.2 m/s = 211 mph Sound Intensity: 94 dB (May cause ear pain) Damage Description:
Multistory wall-bearing buildings will collapse.
Wood frame buildings will almost completely collapse.
Glass windows will shatter.
Up to 90 percent of trees blown down; remainder stripped of branches and leaves.
Feel free to estimate actual orbital velocity (38 km/s as per Caldari prime escape velcity) and impact angle... The Greater Fool Bar-áis now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden!-áIngame chat channel: The Greater Fool Bar |
Charlepetit LaJoie
Trust Me Ltd
327
|
Posted - 2013.03.24 16:29:00 -
[25] - Quote
The crash would have been worse, but the Titan had curb feelers. |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1093
|
Posted - 2013.03.24 16:39:00 -
[26] - Quote
Ager Agemo wrote:and only ******* 2 million kilometers of area destroyed!? what the **** was that titan made of? empty aluminium?
an object that size regardless of the speed and with the expected density should have anhilated half that planet population just on impact i mean it was orbiting at well over 1000 kms, that planet being similar to earth would make that piece accelerate to ludicrously high speeds and with that density... JUST 2 million kilometers!? and cosmetic damage to some buildings?
dont you read the news, this year a ******* 10 meter meteor passed by, it just passed over russia and blew the windows of all the city, given mass increases damage on a linear scale, dont you think the damage should be way higher?
Is this an example of role playing?
If so, then role playing is even more weird than I had thought. This is not a signature. |
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
1200
|
Posted - 2013.03.24 16:44:00 -
[27] - Quote
I knew a guy who used to be able to do calculations like this in his head... sadly he's dead now... and right when I really need to call him Live Events are neither. |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
1605
|
Posted - 2013.03.24 17:18:00 -
[28] - Quote
eve has physics? a eve-style bounty system (done)-á dust boarding parties You fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
490
|
Posted - 2013.03.24 17:45:00 -
[29] - Quote
DarthNefarius wrote:Ager Agemo wrote:[quote=Sentamon]
given 1 thousand kilometers to accelerate... without resistance, the impact speed will be several times the speed of sound actually... You forgot to add in the anti-gravitic/inertia distortion fied generators that slowed it down Witnesses say a man in blue tights with an "S" on his chest slowed it down. True story. This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
|
Nikko Jiangtibayan
Ghosts That Linger
65
|
Posted - 2013.03.24 18:01:00 -
[30] - Quote
Worth noting that the Titan didn't explode when it hit. Hello...mate. |
|
|
|
|
Pages: [1] 2 :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |