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Derek Quaid
Discreet Bounties
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Posted - 2012.12.08 15:27:00 -
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Discreet Bounties will happily place anonymous bounties on any individual (over 30 days old). CEO, Discreet Bounties In-game Channel: Discreet Bounties |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
1314
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Posted - 2012.12.08 15:29:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote:There should be ways to do anonymous bounties Transfer cash to junk alt, place bounty, done. P.S. Optionally, biomass junk alt for added lulz. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/User:Akita_T T2 BPO poll: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=114789 Buying this: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=147098 |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
10628
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Posted - 2012.12.08 18:06:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote:The whole system is based off of trust when it comes to this issue. The service you would be paying for is animosity yet how are you sure that the information isn't leaked the the attacker aka the service you paid for. GǪand that's such a minute issue that requires very little in the way of triggers and verifications that it's something that we can build ourselves. The core bounty process is not.
Quote:The debate on whether or not being anonymous is needed is a valid one. However personally I see the whole bounty system going back to be unused due to lack of people using it out of fear of retaliation for placing bounties. The ease of making bounties anonymous pretty much ensures that this won't happen. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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YoYo NickyYo
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
64
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Posted - 2012.12.08 18:17:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote:Why would you willingly place a bounty on someones head without the option of some form of anonymity, especially in a universe where aggression is the norm?
Its like walking up to a guy with a gun, and telling him that you just hired someone to come and shoot him.
There should be ways to do anonymous bounties, as well as a way for bounties players to "cheat" the system to find out who they are. Relaying on a player ran anonymous bounty system, is a crap idea for those who might suggest it.
You've never heard of alts?
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Gillia Winddancer
Shiny Noble Crown Services
142
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Posted - 2012.12.08 19:00:00 -
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K1netic wrote:Gillia Winddancer wrote:Any suggestion that involves alts is the worst kind of suggestion.
Just saying. except that's exactly what ccp suggested about placing anonymous bounties. If you only have 1 character you're doing it wrong anyways. New system is awesome. Don't like having a bounty? then get rid of it it's not very hard.
Way to go virtually insulting anyone who doesn't have multiple accounts/characters. Or play with only one account/character for principal reasons.
And I never complained about the bounty system in general, just remarking at the rather odd "anonymous versus announced" culture.
In fact, I am starting to find the whole multi-account mentality to get rather toxic in general. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1862
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Posted - 2012.12.08 19:01:00 -
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Gillia Winddancer wrote:In fact, I am starting to find the whole multi-account mentality to get rather toxic in general. Wait, you mean that EVE is ...
dying ?! Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
10631
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Posted - 2012.12.08 19:41:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Wait, you mean that EVE is ...
dying ?! Yup. It's dying so much that, yesterday, on a Friday (consistently the day in the week with the fewest players logging in), we had just under 45k peak users. Over the last six months, only Sundays (consistently the day in the week with the most number of players logged in) have seen more than that. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
1956
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Posted - 2012.12.08 19:47:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote:Why would you willingly place a bounty on someones head....
I completely agree up that point.
Total waste of ISK that can be used for something better. Like buying a weapon to shoot him with.
Mr Epeen
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JitaPriceChecker2
State War Academy Caldari State
191
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Posted - 2012.12.08 19:52:00 -
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ISD TYPE40 wrote:Gillia Winddancer wrote:I sort of have to agree on this point to be honest.
The same goes for killmails. Why should the target know that the killmail he generated by attacking someone else has been sold and more importantly to whom it has been sold?
Consequences. I really wonder what happened to that word.
It could be argued that the consequence of placing a bounty on someone is that they are aware of who placed the bounty.
No sorry that is a failed argument based on flawed assumptions. But why should i expect any better from tyrannical ISD that closes all threads that threaten current status quo of in-game balance of power.
It is called alts , i can put any bounty from alt such as this and there are no consequences.
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Aurelius Valentius
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
226
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Posted - 2012.12.08 19:55:00 -
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The only thing I see that defies logic is that there is no "cancel bounty" option.
1. Player 1 bounties Player 2 for 1Billion ISK... or is it 1Trillion ISK... hmmm anyway... 2. Player 2 FREAKS OUT - "OMG" on reading the name of Player 1 in bounty notification... 3a. Player 2 is a Carebear, Player 2 FREAKES OUT - OMG NOoooooooooooo!!!!... my ORCA!, MY MACK!, MY ISK!!!.. MY UNDERWEAR!!!!... and quickly starts convo with EVIL DASTERDLY player 1, who negotiates, a ISK donation for the cancellation of said bounty, in which case he might not cancel it on receipt of ISK, but you never know. 3b. Player 2 is a Not-Carebear, Player 2 Calmly looks at the bounty, checks new numbers on bounties, and then bounties the snot out of Player 1 and plans to go kill him and vice-versa, and fun is had by all, suddenly Player 1 is hit with a bout of "Carebear Flu" and reverts to a helmet wearing, drooling, carebear with a Retriever, and can't seem to PvP... Player 1 then FREAKS OUT, and hits cancel on the bounty on Player 2 and quickly uses his Log-offski Drive and exists space... not to be seen for several episodes of CSI. 4. CCP seeing that it's new patched "Cancel Bounty" button/option is working well, preceeds to do other stuff and all is good, the world is right, and penguins are still at about the correct size and weight. Look at all the Macks in local...impressive...very impressive...I see you have fashioned a new exhumer...much like you father's...your skills as a miner are now complete...indeed you are powerful as CCP Devs have foreseen. 223 people are confused. |
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
1956
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Posted - 2012.12.08 19:55:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Wait, you mean that EVE is ...
dying ?! Yup. It's dying so much that, yesterday, on a Friday (consistently the day in the week with the fewest players logging in), we had just under 45k peak users. Over the last six months, only Sundays (consistently the day in the week with the most number of players logged in) have seen more than that.
One good Friday in the last six months? And it just happens to be the first Friday after an expansion.
Impressive. But meaningless.
Mr Epeen
-ávOv |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
10631
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Posted - 2012.12.08 20:05:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:One good Friday in the last six months? And it just happens to be the first Friday after an expansion.
Impressive. But meaningless. To put it into perspective, I have two Fridays in my stats that have 45k+ PCUs GÇö one was during fanfest 2012, the other was Jita-riot Friday. Before Incarna, 45k would be the number all Fridays were bumping up against; since then, there has been maybe three in total that have even come close. Oh and the last time we had a 50k+ Saturday (since the TQ PCU is 50.6k and climbing) was also during the Incarna protests.
So while it's common to see bumps after expansions, this is quite unprecedented. The exact meaning is to early to speculate about, so calling it meaningless is quite incorrect. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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