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Nanatoa
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.11.29 23:13:00 -
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I am confused. On the one hand CCP seem to believe that they might decide that bumping miners with the goal of obtaining isk is harassment. On the other hand they have designed and are releasing a system which will make it possible to put bounties on any miner for no reason at all, allowing them to be profitable gank targets.
Someone said it above and I will say here again: any system that allows interaction with miners can be used to do stuff miners won't like. Unless CCP would like to cordon off an area of the sandbox and make miners immune to everything, they'll have to live with miners whining about not being able to "enjoy" their afk-mining. Better that CCP learn to live with it now, before they mess with the sandbox too much. We do what we must, because we can.
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Nanatoa
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.12.02 01:35:00 -
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Benny Lava wrote:New Order claims to go after AFK and bot mining.
That should read:
Quote:Opponents of the New Order claim that the New Order claims to go after AFK and bot mining just so they can complain about the New Order not going exclusively after AFK and bot mining even though the New Order never claimed to go exclusively after AFK and bot mining.
We do what we must, because we can.
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Nanatoa
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.12.02 01:52:00 -
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Odelleger wrote:A question was posed to me by one of the "agents" and the point has been stated in this thread as well: Do I want to take away their fun? Yes. Absolutely yes. This game changes, things you got away with doing no longer work, you adapt.
Case in point: Stealing from something that isn't your will flag you as a target for anyone that happens across your path for the next 15 minutes with the coming patch. Previously (and until the patch) my source of ISK has been from stealing. After the patch I can either change my source of ISK, or adapt to the changes.
Many actions which formerly left you relatively protected are being stripped, why not add bumping to the list? Most of the Crimewatch changes are hisec affecting, which is where bumping is employed as well.
I would agree with the "adapt" principle, but in this context it is ludicrous. You seem to assume CCP will take action to nerf bumpers and that the bumpers will have to adapt. But you conveniently forget that this thread is a consequence of miners refusing to adapt. Examples abound (I won't list them here, they've been mentioned in this thread often enough) where miners prefer sticking to their max-yield fits and 'tactics', successfully relying on CCP to intervene on their behalf instead of adapting to the situation. Repent what's past; avoid what is to come.
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Nanatoa
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.12.03 22:57:00 -
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Shvak wrote:the bumper is immune and fly such a cheap ship killing him makes no sense.
For the record, I fly a faction-fit Stabber Fleet Issue. It's worth considerably more than most miner ships I bump.
Repent what's past; avoid what is to come.
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Nanatoa
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.12.05 11:32:00 -
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I'm amazed that nearly 30 pages after the first post - which explicitly states that bumping is not an exploit and not a violation of the rules - anti-bumpers are still arguing that bumping is against the rules. How can we have a serious and constructive discussion here if all one side does is stick to delusions? Repent what's past; avoid what is to come.
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