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Renan Ruivo
Vera Cruz. Nulli Secunda
902
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Posted - 2012.11.21 13:07:00 -
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Lashauna wrote:i am not here to shed noob tears or anything of that matter, i just want an answer to a question...
why every where in EVE, people always want to kill you? is this all EVE is all about? who can kill who first?
even if your ship have no defense or offense you are targeted and and quickly destroyed and usually by 2+ players...
what is the honor of attacking a ship that can not fight back? for killboard stats? but how can your killboard look "good" if it is full of defenseless ships?
is this all EVE is about?
please note: i would prefer constructive responses, otherwise do not waste both of our times
If i don't kill your ship the market will crash. The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die. |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
434
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Posted - 2012.11.21 19:15:00 -
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Inxentas Ultramar wrote:I have had my bike stolen IRL a lot more times then my Industrial blown up in Eve. The Eve community isn't that bad.
Well said. As in real life people's perceptions vs actual reality are usually 2 totally different things. CCP Gargant:-á this game requires a certain amount of simply going out there and chatting with people. You will get scammed, destroyed, cheated, trolled, and blown up but that is just a part of the essence of this game. -á |
Nytak
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.11.21 19:26:00 -
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Lashauna wrote: is this all EVE is about?
In a nutshell, Yes.
Longer explanation, just because you choose to hold yourself to a self-imposed moral standard, doesn't mean anybody else is, nor are there any game restrictions requiring them to do so or punishing them for not.
Attacking an solo ship incapable of defending itself.. Who is more to blame. The people who see the opportunity to progress their story in the game, or the person who enables them by not defending themselves properly? |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1097
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Posted - 2012.11.21 19:49:00 -
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Because it's more lucrative than shooting red cross. Crimewatch 2.0: Protecting stupid people & rewarding lazy people. This hurts the smart & industrious people by making their intelligence & industry provide them with less benefit over the stupid & lazy people. ~ Ruby Porto |
Darth Gustav
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
1804
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Posted - 2012.11.21 19:56:00 -
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Lashauna wrote:i am not here to shed noob tears or anything of that matter, i just want an answer to a question...
why every where in EVE, people always want to kill you? is this all EVE is all about? who can kill who first?
even if your ship have no defense or offense you are targeted and and quickly destroyed and usually by 2+ players...
what is the honor of attacking a ship that can not fight back? for killboard stats? but how can your killboard look "good" if it is full of defenseless ships?
is this all EVE is about?
please note: i would prefer constructive responses, otherwise do not waste both of our times In order to actually be constructive I need to know, specifically, what ships in Eve don't have defense?
Haulers have defense. Freighters have defense. Mining barges have defense.
Any ship that has hull HP, armor HP, and shield HP has defenses.
As for why players want to kill you? In-character greed or bloodlust comes to mind.
Oh, and mining barges also have offensive capabilities.
Haulers, Blockade Runners, and Transports can, too.
Only freighters and shuttles are offenseless, as far as I'm aware. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |
Dasola
Rookie Empire Citizens Rookie Empire
78
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Posted - 2012.11.21 20:24:00 -
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Well this is eve, its internet spaceship game. It gives you some anonymity.
You know what happens to people when they realise the other fellow cant come and really punch them in face? They start acting like jerks. Its seen on internet so many times. As much players that are playing eve, theres plenty or room for those jerks as well.
But thank god, they atleast are on small minority. But you dont usually run into too much of those other people that dont prey on weak and fearfull. They dont usually advertise too much, becouse they try to avoid those same damn jerks you have run into...
Start a nood corp, advertise a bit and in couple weeks you get your first jerk griefer wardecks. [Insert something funny or smart here] |
Darth Gustav
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
1804
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Posted - 2012.11.21 20:26:00 -
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Dasola wrote:Well this is eve, its internet spaceship game. It gives you some anonymity. You know what happens to people when they realise the other fellow cant come and really punch them in face? They start acting like jerks. Its seen on internet so many times. As much players that are playing eve, theres plenty or room for those jerks as well. But thank god, they atleast are on small minority. But you dont usually run into too much of those other people that dont prey on weak and fearfull. They dont usually advertise too much, becouse they try to avoid those same damn jerks you have run into... Start a nood corp, advertise a bit and in couple weeks you get your first jerk griefer wardecks. No advertising necessary for "nood" corps.
They'll get all the attention. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |
Dasola
Rookie Empire Citizens Rookie Empire
78
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Posted - 2012.11.21 20:27:00 -
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Darth Gustav wrote:Lashauna wrote:i am not here to shed noob tears or anything of that matter, i just want an answer to a question...
why every where in EVE, people always want to kill you? is this all EVE is all about? who can kill who first?
even if your ship have no defense or offense you are targeted and and quickly destroyed and usually by 2+ players...
what is the honor of attacking a ship that can not fight back? for killboard stats? but how can your killboard look "good" if it is full of defenseless ships?
is this all EVE is about?
please note: i would prefer constructive responses, otherwise do not waste both of our times In order to actually be constructive I need to know, specifically, what ships in Eve don't have defense? Haulers have defense. Freighters have defense. Mining barges have defense. Any ship that has hull HP, armor HP, and shield HP has defenses. As for why players want to kill you? In-character greed or bloodlust comes to mind. Oh, and mining barges also have offensive capabilities. Haulers, Blockade Runners, and Transports can, too. Only freighters and shuttles are offenseless, as far as I'm aware.
Few come to mind: noobship, industrials, freighters, shuttle. And no freighter dont really have defence, they have buffer and we all know what happens when goons deside to suicide gank a freighter in highsec, its dead. So much for those defences you claim it to have. [Insert something funny or smart here] |
Alara IonStorm
3553
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Posted - 2012.11.21 20:41:00 -
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Dasola wrote: we all know what happens when goons deside to suicide gank a freighter in highsec, its dead.
Would they destroy such Freighter if not for the promise of great rewards? Without rewards they still can technically gank but the chances become even rarer and in this game do not fly what you can not afford to lose.
Vengeance against them and their Corp is possible, you can gank them back with or without Kill Rights in High Sec or Hunt them in Nullsec.
If you can not muster the power it takes then you lose... at a video game. |
Darth Gustav
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
1804
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Posted - 2012.11.21 20:43:00 -
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Dasola wrote:Darth Gustav wrote:Lashauna wrote:i am not here to shed noob tears or anything of that matter, i just want an answer to a question...
why every where in EVE, people always want to kill you? is this all EVE is all about? who can kill who first?
even if your ship have no defense or offense you are targeted and and quickly destroyed and usually by 2+ players...
what is the honor of attacking a ship that can not fight back? for killboard stats? but how can your killboard look "good" if it is full of defenseless ships?
is this all EVE is about?
please note: i would prefer constructive responses, otherwise do not waste both of our times In order to actually be constructive I need to know, specifically, what ships in Eve don't have defense? Haulers have defense. Freighters have defense. Mining barges have defense. Any ship that has hull HP, armor HP, and shield HP has defenses. As for why players want to kill you? In-character greed or bloodlust comes to mind. Oh, and mining barges also have offensive capabilities. Haulers, Blockade Runners, and Transports can, too. Only freighters and shuttles are offenseless, as far as I'm aware. Few come to mind: noobship, industrials, freighters, shuttle. And no freighter dont really have defence, they have buffer and we all know what happens when goons deside to suicide gank a freighter in highsec, its dead. So much for those defences you claim it to have. Those defenses save the freighter from one misguided BC pilot though. Imaginary defenses could not.
Also, noobships have turret hardpoints. Industrials by and large mostly have turret hardpoints.
Bringing us back to the ones I mentioned. Freighters and shuttles. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |
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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
229
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Posted - 2012.11.21 21:16:00 -
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Lashauna wrote:why every where in NATURE, things always want to kill you? is this all NATURE is all about? who can kill who first?
even if you have no natural defense or offense you are hunted and and quickly eaten and sometimes by 2+ creatures...
what is the honor of attacking a creature that can not fight back? for peer status? but how can your peers look "impressed" if all you kill are defenseless creatures?
is this all NATURE is about?
Answer mine first.
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baltec1
Bat Country
2899
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Posted - 2012.11.22 07:33:00 -
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Quote:
Few come to mind: noobship, industrials, freighters, shuttle. And no freighter dont really have defence, they have buffer and we all know what happens when goons deside to suicide gank a freighter in highsec, its dead. So much for those defences you claim it to have.
Nubships and all industrials can engage in pvp. If deep space transports could fit a turret I would be solo pvping in them against battlecruisers. |
psycho freak
Snuff Box
20
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Posted - 2012.11.22 11:47:00 -
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Lashauna wrote:i am not here to shed noob tears or anything of that matter, i just want an answer to a question...
why every where in EVE, people always want to kill you? is this all EVE is all about? who can kill who first?
even if your ship have no defense or offense you are targeted and and quickly destroyed and usually by 2+ players...
what is the honor of attacking a ship that can not fight back? for killboard stats? but how can your killboard look "good" if it is full of defenseless ships?
is this all EVE is about?
please note: i would prefer constructive responses, otherwise do not waste both of our times
there is no honor in eve
and yes its all eve is about everything revolves around blowing stuff up
you build stuff to get blown up you make isk to buy stuff to get blown up yes everyone wants to kill you
EvE = Everyone Vs Everyone
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KardelSharpeye
Bellum Esca Peregrine Nation
2
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Posted - 2012.11.22 14:35:00 -
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Harland White wrote:To the OP, it's more a thing of parenting. It depends on how many of the players in EVE were raised, and honestly, 95% of players in EVE were not raised. At all. There is a severe lack of proper parenting in the civilized world today, and it produces some pretty nasty offspring (much of the EVE Online population is a good example) that is very detrimental to a normal society. Don't waste your time trying to explain civility or kindness to any of them---it goes completely over their heads because they weren't raised to cherish any good values like that. I'd recommend doing what some of the folks in this thread have recommended, and tank out your haulers and be very cautious. EVE is a huge attractive playground for the animals without parents, that's why it's so full of them.
Inb4 wardecs and rage replies from people I touched a nerve in. So all those people playing counter strike or call of duty or most of the games are all murdserous psychopaths? It's a game get over yourself everyone does whats fun, for some it's explosions for others it's virtual money and rocks. Why should they be the ones who are bad where from someone else's perspective you're the weirdo that spends hours looking at rocks or amassing fake fortunes? |
Revajin
15 Minute Outliers Novus Dominatum
48
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Posted - 2012.11.22 15:18:00 -
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I developed my moral code from fortune cookies growing up so I never hurt anyone else in EVE. I just think how much I would cry if someone blew up my Noctis so when I see obvious targets I just say hello and move on |
Riedle
Paradox Collective Choke Point
192
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Posted - 2012.11.22 16:30:00 -
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Lets see, who has the real life mental issues?
- The guy playing an imaginary internet spaceship game blowing up another imaginary internet spaceship in a game about imaginary internet spaceships being blown up set in a "harsh reality"?
OR
- The guy who's imaginary, internet spaceship was just blown up accusing the dastardly fellow who blew up his imaginary, internet spaceship of having mental/psychological issues IRL because they are unable to handle that their imaginary, internet spaceship was blown up in an imaginary, internet game that specifically allows their imaginary, internet ship to be blown up by the aforementioned dastardly fellow?
hmmmm.... |
fukier
Flatline.
152
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Posted - 2012.11.22 16:37:00 -
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Doddy wrote:Podkilling is a bit different, there is no gain.
i dunno about that...
you ever sell implants for a living? At the end of the game both the pawn and the Queen go in the same box. |
fukier
Flatline.
152
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Posted - 2012.11.22 16:41:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:We are simply doing what people have done since at least the 19th Dynasty of the Egyptian Kingdom in the late Bronze age.
is this some whitty exodus joke? At the end of the game both the pawn and the Queen go in the same box. |
baltec1
Bat Country
2902
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Posted - 2012.11.22 16:46:00 -
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fukier wrote:baltec1 wrote:We are simply doing what people have done since at least the 19th Dynasty of the Egyptian Kingdom in the late Bronze age. is this some whitty exodus joke? Before it rained frogs it rained mechant tears? |
TheBlueMonkey
Don't Be a Menace
197
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Posted - 2012.11.22 17:06:00 -
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I do it for the isk because mining and missioning are boring as all hell. |
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Kiteo Hatto
Equanimity Order
275
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Posted - 2012.11.22 17:11:00 -
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Its their own fault/stupidity/lack of research that they undocked/went afk without any form of tank and they deserve to get blown up otherwise they will never learn but im starting to doubt that people can learn.....
Also, there is no honor in eve. "That's okay it annoys me when people pile on new definitions to the word sandbox every time CCP does something they don't like." - Alara IonStorm GD is where 60% of threads make you dumber and 10% which provide you with entertainment, the remaining 30% is a mix of both. |
Jerick Ludhowe
The Nyan Cat Pirates Nyanpire
213
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Posted - 2012.11.22 20:19:00 -
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To the OP. The internet is not an honorable place, don't expect eve (4chan with spaceships) to be any different. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1103
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Posted - 2012.11.22 20:24:00 -
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KardelSharpeye wrote:Harland White wrote:To the OP, it's more a thing of parenting. It depends on how many of the players in EVE were raised, and honestly, 95% of players in EVE were not raised. At all. There is a severe lack of proper parenting in the civilized world today, and it produces some pretty nasty offspring (much of the EVE Online population is a good example) that is very detrimental to a normal society. Don't waste your time trying to explain civility or kindness to any of them---it goes completely over their heads because they weren't raised to cherish any good values like that. I'd recommend doing what some of the folks in this thread have recommended, and tank out your haulers and be very cautious. EVE is a huge attractive playground for the animals without parents, that's why it's so full of them.
Inb4 wardecs and rage replies from people I touched a nerve in. So all those people playing counter strike or call of duty or most of the games are all murdserous psychopaths? It's a game get over yourself everyone does whats fun, for some it's explosions for others it's virtual money and rocks. Why should they be the ones who are bad where from someone else's perspective you're the weirdo that spends hours looking at rocks or amassing fake fortunes?
He might actually be on to something there. Miners must all be sex offenders. Crimewatch 2.0: Protecting stupid people & rewarding lazy people. This hurts the smart & industrious people by making their intelligence & industry provide them with less benefit over the stupid & lazy people. ~ Ruby Porto |
Remiel Pollard
Devlin Security Devlin Alliance
132
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Posted - 2012.11.22 20:31:00 -
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Asuka Solo wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Asuka Solo wrote:Unfortunately, yes.
Eve is mostly about unfair, non consensual PvP in blobs or gangs against people who can't fight back. If you find yourself in an honorable, evenly matched fight, you've done it wrong.
But I would like to see CCP expand on this. Give more depth to dimensions of Eve such as WiS, PvE content, social co-operation that does not include guns, PI, manufacturing, research, economic participation and so on.
That having been said, I would like to see Eve PvP/pew pew based gameplay expanded into WiS as well.... so we can blow things up outside of spaceships as well.... **** WiS, this is a game about spaceships - if you want WiS, go back to Habbo Hotel. There is STACKS of social co-operation there - this is a game about spaceships, space battles, etc, not going to the local coffee shop to chat with friends and ride ponies. And as for "blowing stuff up outside of spaceships", what do you think DUST 514 is? Oh look.... a 2012 alt who thinks his opinion matters...
That was so witty. Did you look up my publicly available work history for that one all on your own? Epic research skills. Although I think you'll find the age of a fictional EVE online character is not a reflection of the abilities or merits of the opinion of the player behind it.
So as articulated as your criticism was, it was actually an inaccurate presumption based on an elitist attitude. By the same token, I could argue, "oh look, some silly female who thinks her opinion matters."
See? Either way, age of character, sex of player, it's still discrimination. So your little problems mean nothing to me. And WiS is still a pointless addition to the game without some EVE-related gameplay attributes. You're still quite welcome to go back to Habbo Hotel. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1105
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Posted - 2012.11.22 23:29:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Asuka Solo wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Asuka Solo wrote:Unfortunately, yes.
Eve is mostly about unfair, non consensual PvP in blobs or gangs against people who can't fight back. If you find yourself in an honorable, evenly matched fight, you've done it wrong.
But I would like to see CCP expand on this. Give more depth to dimensions of Eve such as WiS, PvE content, social co-operation that does not include guns, PI, manufacturing, research, economic participation and so on.
That having been said, I would like to see Eve PvP/pew pew based gameplay expanded into WiS as well.... so we can blow things up outside of spaceships as well.... **** WiS, this is a game about spaceships - if you want WiS, go back to Habbo Hotel. There is STACKS of social co-operation there - this is a game about spaceships, space battles, etc, not going to the local coffee shop to chat with friends and ride ponies. And as for "blowing stuff up outside of spaceships", what do you think DUST 514 is? Oh look.... a 2012 alt who thinks his opinion matters... That was so witty. Did you look up my publicly available work history for that one all on your own? Epic research skills. Although I think you'll find the age of a fictional EVE online character is not a reflection of the abilities or merits of the opinion of the player behind it. So as articulated as your criticism was, it was actually an inaccurate presumption based on an elitist attitude. By the same token, I could argue, "oh look, some silly female who thinks her opinion matters." See? Either way, age of character, sex of player, it's still discrimination. So your little problems mean nothing to me. And WiS is still a pointless addition to the game without some EVE-related gameplay attributes. You're still quite welcome to go back to Habbo Hotel.
Looks down at elitism. Says go back to (insert game here). Crimewatch 2.0: Protecting stupid people & rewarding lazy people. This hurts the smart & industrious people by making their intelligence & industry provide them with less benefit over the stupid & lazy people. ~ Ruby Porto |
QUIZZA
CRANK INC. Waterboard
10
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Posted - 2012.11.23 00:58:00 -
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I like shooting my autocannons and collecting corpses from noobies. We should fleet up ingame and run some lvl 4's or.......
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Jerick Ludhowe
The Nyan Cat Pirates Nyanpire
213
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Posted - 2012.11.23 01:20:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote: And as for "blowing stuff up outside of spaceships", what do you think DUST 514 is?
A bad game destined to fall into obscurity months after it goes live.
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Terminal Insanity
Suicides-R-Us BricK sQuAD.
704
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Posted - 2012.11.23 05:08:00 -
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Lashauna wrote:why every where in EVE, people always want to kill you? is this all EVE is all about? who can kill who first? Yes.
This is the equivilent of playing Hello Kitty Online and wondering, "wheres all the pvpers? is this all HKO is about? just minigames and stuff?"
You've chosen to play a hardcore pvp mmo, and wonder why theres so much pvp. "War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP |
Terminal Insanity
Suicides-R-Us BricK sQuAD.
704
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Posted - 2012.11.23 05:10:00 -
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Jerick Ludhowe wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote: And as for "blowing stuff up outside of spaceships", what do you think DUST 514 is? A bad game destined to fall into obscurity months after it goes live. Dust has a serious chance. I've been in Planetside2 beta, arguably dust's only competitor, and planetside2 is a total flop. Its really just a bad game. theres nothing special about it, nothing very interesting, no compelling back story, the combat is jumpy/laggy and nobody moves smoothly. Its just a fail of a game.
Before playing PS2, i figured dust had no chance against it. after playing it, Dust has a very very good opportunity to that market "War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP |
Xiode
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
40
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Posted - 2012.11.23 05:31:00 -
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I just want to spread pain and misery. |
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