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Phoenix Bibbs
Astra Enterprises Happy Endings
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Posted - 2012.10.26 18:51:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Miners really should not have laughed and told gankers to adapt over the barge changes. Look at the results, if only you had tanked your hulk you wouldn't have to worry about this horrible bumping now.
The Goon speaks the truth.
Now I gotta go change out bottles on the tear harvester that I have hooked up to this thread.
The next step is the miners will come up with a bot that even posts their whining to the forums automatically so they can make more sammiches and watch Jerry Springer or some other equally engaging TV show. |
Robert De'Arneth
173
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Posted - 2012.10.26 19:06:00 -
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I agree, take the time and effort to setup several systems you can mine in. But under no circumstance ever pay these idiots for a mining permit. You should already have at minimum 4 mining ops anyways, 1 for each hub, just add 1 each for each hub and have 8. You have not lived until you have been Wated by Jim!!-á-á |
Anslo
BHEI Galactic Construction The Unforgiven Alliance
476
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Posted - 2012.10.26 19:08:00 -
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Robert De'Arneth wrote:I agree, take the time and effort to setup several systems you can mine in. But under no circumstance ever pay these idiots for a mining permit. You should already have at minimum 4 mining ops anyways, 1 for each hub, just add 1 each for each hub and have 8.
This. There's been a lot of suggestions already noted. Stick to them and you'll be fine. If it comes to them harassing you, make sure you report it. Otherwise, business as usual. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
231
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Posted - 2012.10.26 19:19:00 -
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Phoenix Bibbs wrote: The next step is the miners will come up with a bot that even posts their whining to the forums automatically so they can make more sammiches and watch Jerry Springer or some other equally engaging TV show.
I believe this bot is already active as it posts under the anonymous tag on www.minerbumping.com npc alts aren't people |
Viktor Fel
Dred Nots
10
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Posted - 2012.10.26 19:28:00 -
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This. Pirates, scoundrels, hijackers, people who know what the word risk means;
Vote with your wallets! I urge you to take the most direct action you can to defend YOUR game play, YOUR free time, and YOUR style! |
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
155
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Posted - 2012.10.26 19:30:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Phoenix Bibbs wrote: The next step is the miners will come up with a bot that even posts their whining to the forums automatically so they can make more sammiches and watch Jerry Springer or some other equally engaging TV show.
I believe this bot is already active as it posts under the anonymous tag on www.minerbumping.com
Its either that or someone who seriously needs to take a break from EvE. On the other hand the people encouraging him to try legal action knowing full well he'd get laughed out of any court in the country are pretty bad as well. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
328
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Posted - 2012.10.26 19:31:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Phoenix Bibbs wrote: The next step is the miners will come up with a bot that even posts their whining to the forums automatically so they can make more sammiches and watch Jerry Springer or some other equally engaging TV show.
I believe this bot is already active as it posts under the anonymous tag on www.minerbumping.com
OMG, that's the 1st time I've seen that site. That is hilarious. Emergent Gameplay for the mother ******* WIN.
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Sir Marksalot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
194
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Posted - 2012.10.26 19:38:00 -
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Tali Ambraelle wrote:TheGunslinger42 wrote:Tali Ambraelle wrote:You clearly have no idea how this game works. Also not everyone wants to be in small ships. Not everyone is you. Also also James is not a "savior" of highsec. He is an undesirable, much like you. James is playing the game the way it was meant to be played, unlike afk miners and botters. In fact, emergent gameplay pioneers are the epitome of desirable, as they help demonstrate the possibilities in EVE online. Things like hulkageddon and burn jita are what make EVE famous, not undesirables such as yourself, who do nothing but f1 space rocks 23/7 I'd agree if he only targeted bots. No one likes bots. I've seen him target actively non-bot, non-afk players. That's where I take my issues. Also his grandiose claims of being elected Protector of etc etc when he...really isn't protecting anything. You and other undesirable belligerents are interrupting EULA sanctioned and legitimate game play for active miners.
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La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
234
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Posted - 2012.10.26 19:38:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:La Nariz wrote:Phoenix Bibbs wrote: The next step is the miners will come up with a bot that even posts their whining to the forums automatically so they can make more sammiches and watch Jerry Springer or some other equally engaging TV show.
I believe this bot is already active as it posts under the anonymous tag on www.minerbumping.com OMG, that's the 1st time I've seen that site. That is hilarious. Emergent Gameplay for the mother ******* WIN.
CCP take a look at this post, this person here was satisfied by emergent gameplay not isk/hr and highsec cosseting. npc alts aren't people |
Phoenix Bibbs
Astra Enterprises Happy Endings
19
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Posted - 2012.10.26 19:39:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:La Nariz wrote:Phoenix Bibbs wrote: The next step is the miners will come up with a bot that even posts their whining to the forums automatically so they can make more sammiches and watch Jerry Springer or some other equally engaging TV show.
I believe this bot is already active as it posts under the anonymous tag on www.minerbumping.com OMG, that's the 1st time I've seen that site. That is hilarious. Emergent Gameplay for the mother ******* WIN.
You sir/ma'am get a cookie (of your choice) and a 'Like'.
Continue on. |
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Shihad Mustafa
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.10.27 07:33:00 -
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If it wasn't for bumping miners, waiting around for my Goonwaffe application would have bored me to tears. |
Jason13 Anzomi
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.10.27 11:54:00 -
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Bumper thumpers are quite amusing to me. Once they start bumping me I set my ship to orbit the 'roid and then go to the kitchen to have some lunch. If they're still bumping when I get back I then go run down to Starbucks for a cuppa joe. If they're still bumping when I get back I take a nap. Meanwhile I'm laughing my head off about some fool wasting their time bumping my ship while I'm not there.
Oh wait, I'm ruining their game by not giving them a bucket o' tears. I'm so sorry - NOT!
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ConranAntoni
Empyrean Warriors The Obsidian Front
16
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Posted - 2012.10.27 13:26:00 -
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Man the buckets, the tears are-a coming |
Rollin Forties
School of Applied Street Knowledge
8
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Posted - 2012.10.27 13:50:00 -
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Jason13 Anzomi wrote:Bumper thumpers are quite amusing to me. Once they start bumping me I set my ship to orbit the 'roid and then go to the kitchen to have some lunch. If they're still bumping when I get back I then go run down to Starbucks for a cuppa joe. If they're still bumping when I get back I take a nap. Meanwhile I'm laughing my head off about some fool wasting their time bumping my ship while I'm not there.
Oh wait, I'm ruining their game by not giving them a bucket o' tears. I'm so sorry - NOT!
Haha this guy thinks he won by not playing. Orbit doesn't work all that well either. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1623
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Posted - 2012.10.27 15:25:00 -
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Rollin Forties wrote:Jason13 Anzomi wrote:Bumper thumpers are quite amusing to me. Once they start bumping me I set my ship to orbit the 'roid and then go to the kitchen to have some lunch. If they're still bumping when I get back I then go run down to Starbucks for a cuppa joe. If they're still bumping when I get back I take a nap. Meanwhile I'm laughing my head off about some fool wasting their time bumping my ship while I'm not there.
Oh wait, I'm ruining their game by not giving them a bucket o' tears. I'm so sorry - NOT! Haha this guy thinks he won by not playing. Orbit doesn't work all that well either. But you do win by not playing... that's what all the bittervets say... Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Jonah Gravenstein
Mahatma Cote Temporal Research
1846
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Posted - 2012.10.27 17:32:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote: But you do win by not playing... that's what all the bittervets say...
lol you'll be getting a failheap challenge forum account next
Homo sapiens non urinat in ventum -á-á-á ---CCP can't patch stupid--- |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1624
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Posted - 2012.10.27 18:20:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:But you do win by not playing... that's what all the bittervets say... lol you'll be getting a failheap challenge forum account next What's failheap challenge? Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
118
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Posted - 2012.10.27 18:27:00 -
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Zkaor wrote:Will someone at CCP please allow miners defend (destroy) the bumpers ship without Concord intervention. As it is now all miners hands are tied and MUST submit to their extorsion tactics with no means of defense.
P.S. If this should be posted elsewhere please let me know...thanks
If the Bumpers are not in an NPC corp, leave your NPC corp (by joining or creating a player corp) and issue a war declaration. wait 24hrs, and concord will NOT intervene when you shoot at the "evil bumpers"
In short the mechanisms are already in place for you deal with this issue.
ps If the bumper is in an NPC corp Shame him for doing his utmost to avoid the wardec machanic, call him out for being "the baseless, lower than a carebear coward" he is. |
Malphilos
State War Academy Caldari State
202
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Posted - 2012.10.27 18:34:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:But you do win by not playing...
If you do it right. People who keep doing something they don't like are idiots. Walk away, do something fun with your spare time.
That goes for every one who whines about how they "have" to do something. Staring at rocks, gate camp, whatever. If you don't enjoy it, you're wasting your time. And you're never getting that back.
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Rollin Forties
School of Applied Street Knowledge
8
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Posted - 2012.10.27 18:38:00 -
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Quote:If the Bumpers are not in an NPC corp, leave your NPC corp (by joining or creating a player corp) and issue a war declaration.
You'll encounter a lot of tough talk when you're bumping. Along the lines of "wait until you have 10x war decs against you LOL" sort of thing. You know how many were actually acted on? ZERO. My bumper is in a 3 man corp, not really that intimidating.
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Max Doobie
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.10.27 19:03:00 -
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These type of people have a very....rapish mentality. It's very disturbing.
Why do you folks get such a kick out of trying to force someone to play your way? Why do you get such a kick from ruining someone else's' game experience? If a person wants to pay to AFK, what's it to you dude?
Folks who want to ban gay marriage, keep Weed illegal, etc....people who for some reason LIVE to tell others how to live.
"bumping" is not a legit playstyle. It's griefing plain and simple. You people basically pay to irritate people. Get a girlfriend maybe? Some RL friends?
I try to understand the underlying cause of things, rather than simply the surface which is why I'm trying to understand why some pvpers are so bothered by how hi0sec folks chose to play. What drives these obnoxious people who embrace invasiveness?
Why is my neighbor calling the cops on me because she saw me smoking a blunt on my own porch and it offended HER religious views, so she thinks I should be arrested, even though what I'm doing in no way affects her?
Why can't these folks just leave people the f**k alone dude? I simply don't get it. They won't rest until everyone does things their way, and they will yell, scream, annoy and irritate until it happens.
DOOBAY! |
Viktor Fel
Dred Nots
14
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Posted - 2012.10.27 19:50:00 -
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Quote:These type of people have a very....rapish mentality. It's very disturbing.
Your opinion, one I, and many others do not agree with. Also how do you justify equating bumping pixels against pixels to forced sexual penetration of another person? Isn't that rather insensitive for a person who claims concern and worry over others?
Quote:Why do you folks get such a kick out of trying to force someone to play your way? Why do you get such a kick from ruining someone else's' game experience? If a person wants to pay to AFK, what's it to you dude?
Crush your enemies, see them driven before you and to hear the lamentations of the capsuleers!
We used to make income with ransoming, piracy in general, etc. That was until most of EVE space became 1.0 with slightly tougher belt rats. The tear harvesting market has changed over the years and as such, we pirates, privateers and scoundrels have had to change with it. We are simply following good sense by adjusting the way we do business.
What is the point of even playing EVE online if you are not really playing at all? Did you ever think of the people who actually do play and how they think and feel when they actually put time and effort into something for months and years only to see some script running AFK mining trash not even playing the game get the same and more from the game?
Poor argument is poor as the proverbial coin may easily be flipped on such situations. What are you trying to say here? That we are all members of the US Republican Party as well? What a silly argument. Also a pointless argument.
Quote: "bumping" is not a legit playstyle. It's griefing plain and simple. You people basically pay to irritate people. Get a girlfriend maybe? Some RL friends?
I would argue that bumping an ransoming is just as legitimate as any other play style by using your logic above. Another poor assumption; that simply because a person enjoys or sees fit to partake in a certain aspect of the game they must have no life. Old failed argument is old.
Quote:I try to understand the underlying cause of things, rather than simply the surface which is why I'm trying to understand why some pvpers are so bothered by how hi0sec folks chose to play. What drives these obnoxious people who embrace invasiveness?
If you tried to understand why this happens clearly you failed. There are a myriad of reasons why this happens. I know that one carebear trash associate I know of that is a miner bumps miners who she thinks are AFK/BOTS because she sees them as annoying toolbags who don't really put any effort into the game. Oxygen thieves if you will, sucking up rocks and flooding the markets with zero risk and zero time invested.
Quote:Why can't these folks just leave people the f**k alone dude? I simply don't get it. They won't rest until everyone does things their way, and they will yell, scream, annoy and irritate until it happens.
Yarrr!!! |
Hecate Shaw
United Freemerchants Society
8
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Posted - 2012.10.27 20:24:00 -
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No one gets it, do they? James315 has created the ultimate scam, and because he packaged it in a way the gankers would swallow whole, it is likely to become one of the best-paying scams of all time!
He says point blank in his manifesto that he will defend gankers, not miners, even the ones who pay. So, for 10 million isk each, the miners get exactly...nothing. Are all of his agents actually given a list of every miner who has paid and thus should be allowed to mine bump-free? Congrats, the gankers have just been handed a list of miners who will likely feel safe and might have no tank to speak of, and where they tend to mine. If not, then what exactly has that 10 million done for them? Bought them a promise that James will not bump them...for a time...unless he feels like he wants to (which is also stated on his site). At the keyboard or not, you are fair game. So in the end, each of those 10m "permits" is pure profit for which he has to do *nothing*!
Better still, he has enough charisma, writing skills, or just plain shutzpa to con other players (mostly gankers) into becoming "shareholders" and hand over MASSIVE amounts of isk. In return for this they get...lulz. James315 pockets all of it, with next to no expenses on his part for the whole scam (barring a world of hate and likely some harassment in game).
In the end, all I can say is that James315 has my admiration and congratulations. I tip my pixels to you for dreaming up one of the most entertaining scams I've ever seen. That's all you're getting though, James, because I don't give money to scammers. |
admiral root
Red Galaxy Persona Non Gratis
109
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Posted - 2012.10.27 21:00:00 -
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Hecate Shaw wrote:He says point blank in his manifesto that he will defend gankers, not miners, even the ones who pay. So, for 10 million isk each, the miners get exactly...nothing. Are all of his agents actually given a list of every miner who has paid and thus should be allowed to mine bump-free? Congrats, the gankers have just been handed a list of miners who will likely feel safe and might have no tank to speak of, and where they tend to mine.
I grant you that's another potentially positve outcome from all this.
Max Doobie wrote:"bumping" is not a legit playstyle. It's griefing plain and simple.
The GMs quite rightly spank griefers. You should petition if you have been griefed, but I would personally prefer you don't clog up the system with complaints about EULA-permissible activities, such as bumping. |
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
514
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Posted - 2012.10.27 21:01:00 -
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Any of the anti-bumping brigade worked out that the louder they scream the more likely they'll ADD traction to bumping and make it WORSE?
No? Carry on... "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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admiral root
Red Galaxy Persona Non Gratis
110
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Posted - 2012.10.27 21:15:00 -
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Touval Lysander wrote:Any of the anti-bumping brigade worked out that the louder they scream the more likely they'll ADD traction to bumping and make it WORSE?
True story. I only joined in the fun after I saw thsi thread. |
Galaxy Pig
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
47
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Posted - 2012.10.27 21:34:00 -
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Tali Ambraelle, I'm genuinely curious. How long are you prepared to wait for Superman to come save you? You keep saying "soon" we'll be "pushed out", is that like SoonGäó? If the next expansion following Retribution comes and goes and CCP still won't fight your battles for you, then what? Two more expansions, still nothing? How long exactly are you willing to wait? How long before you give up and unsub? If not unsub, will you actually stick up for yourself like a man? (Kinda doubt it.)
Gotta say I laughed pretty good when you said something like: "How do you know I haven't been playing just as long as you?" You see, it's obvious to us that you must be relatively new, because your whole gaming philosophy is completely not EVE. In fact, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say you got your gaming philosphy from the children's game World of Warcraft. Did you not?
Honest answer, you played WoW before EVE, yes or no?
(There's your problem Mack. You got used to games for kids, where if someone isn't playing nice you go and tattle. Where there's something called "PVP servers" (my eyes go cross at the thought), you see, this here is for grown-ups.)
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Zero Audier
Anglo Dark Incorporated
8
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Posted - 2012.10.27 21:48:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:Start a crusade to add massive bounties to their corporations.
Post in local, send mails to other Industrial corps. Every little helps.
In Eve you are significantly more powerful than you think you are. Wait a couple of weeks, infiltrate their corp with a couple of friends and then gank them the next time one undocks in their most expensive PvE ship. Don't whine about it, do something.
Don't act like that was the most original idea ever: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGplrpWvz0I
Now onto the topic.
Simple sollution. Make a high slot module that puts up a bubble around you that no other ship can enter. Takes cap to use, and takes a massive amount of cpu. Price of ore will go up because less will be able to be mined because of different fits, and you bumpers can bump the people that deside not to put one on (90% of em don't fit a tank, why would they put this on?). Now there is a counter, so they can't whine anymore, and when they do, you can just do the same thing any low/null sec ganker does when a barge they destroy didn't have a tank. Call them a noob, laugh at them when they whine, and move on.
EDIT: Put the module on a titan, then lol as ships have to fly all the way around you (bubble is porportional to ship size). |
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
514
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Posted - 2012.10.27 21:57:00 -
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Galaxy Pig wrote:Tali Ambraelle, I'm genuinely curious. How long are you prepared to wait for Superman to come save you? You keep saying "soon" we'll be "pushed out", is that like SoonGäó? If the next expansion following Retribution comes and goes and CCP still won't fight your battles for you, then what?
Honest answer, you played WoW before EVE, yes or no?
Actually to be fair. Apart from running away or conducting a gank there isn't a counter to bumping. I'm not going to argue whether it's right or wrong, just stating obvious.
Bumping is free. Stopping it is not (apart from moving - we know that). And it adds nothing to the economy making it a rather benign act.
That's not right.
CCP can only make a EULA call when bumping turns to griefing (and I've explained how that's possible)
or they need an anchor mod/collision system (w/e) so bumping itself carries intrinsic risk or it becomes pointless.
And for the record, I've never played Wow so is my commentary now more true because of it? Bit silly really. "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1626
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Posted - 2012.10.28 00:58:00 -
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Galaxy Pig wrote:Tali Ambraelle, I'm genuinely curious. How long are you prepared to wait for Superman to come save you? You keep saying "soon" we'll be "pushed out", is that like SoonGäó? If the next expansion following Retribution comes and goes and CCP still won't fight your battles for you, then what? Two more expansions, still nothing? How long exactly are you willing to wait? How long before you give up and unsub? If not unsub, will you actually stick up for yourself like a man? (Kinda doubt it.) You really think CCP will leave them out in the cold that long?
These are MINERS you're talking about. I wouldn't think it takes them that long to think of a hamfisted way to nerf bumpers. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
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