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Xercodo
Xovoni Directorate
75
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Posted - 2011.09.30 21:55:00 -
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As in one that takes advantage of the new API's?
That and afaik there still isn't any official EFT thread since the forums change... The Drake is a Lie |
Tidurious
The Northern Legion
0
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Posted - 2011.09.30 21:57:00 -
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Switch to PYFA. Better looks, in my opinion, and works with the new API.
No disrespect to the developers of EFT meant - it was a great tool. I think it has been eclipsed, however. |
Xercodo
Xovoni Directorate
75
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Posted - 2011.09.30 22:01:00 -
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Yes but as you can imagine there are a LOT of people that would prefer EFT aside form myself.
I'm not gonna harp on the guys that make EFT about not having a new API-compatible version out yet, I just wanna know if it's going to be continued both in development and on these new forums... The Drake is a Lie |
Wylee Coyote
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2011.09.30 22:35:00 -
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Umm...the current EFT (2.13.4 i think and yes, still in the old forums but still easily found through google/any searching and still downloadable) works just fine as is without being fully compatible with the new api-s, just manuelly change the skill levels for your mods. Sure it's an extra minute of work but is that really a problem? |
Xercodo
Xovoni Directorate
75
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Posted - 2011.09.30 22:59:00 -
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Not yet it isn't :P The Drake is a Lie |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.01 03:37:00 -
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Wylee Coyote wrote:Umm...the current EFT (2.13.4 i think and yes, still in the old forums but still easily found through google/any searching and still downloadable) works just fine as is without being fully compatible with the new api-s, just manuelly change the skill levels for your mods. Sure it's an extra minute of work but is that really a problem?
Yes, it is. Between manual tweaks to see what the next skill level will do to my loadouts and keeping up with my training progression that would be alot of wasted time doing it all manually vs just clicking the update button to update or get back to my current skills. Gives me an excuse to give PYFA a try, i guess. |
Wylee Coyote
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2011.10.01 04:00:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:Wylee Coyote wrote:Umm...the current EFT (2.13.4 i think and yes, still in the old forums but still easily found through google/any searching and still downloadable) works just fine as is without being fully compatible with the new api-s, just manuelly change the skill levels for your mods. Sure it's an extra minute of work but is that really a problem? Yes, it is. Between manual tweaks to see what the next skill level will do to my loadouts and keeping up with my training progression that would be alot of wasted time doing it all manually vs just clicking the update button to update or get back to my current skills. Gives me an excuse to give PYFA a try, i guess.
Really? That toon your on is 11months and 7days old and you can't figure out what skills you have and/orwhat skills you put in your queue? I mean if you had just started from scratch and everything's still only like 15~30minutes to train I could see that being a problem, but this toon I'm posting on is only 3months old and everything I'm training is at least a day and a half minimum, my other toons are at week and a half minimum for next skill up. |
Nlex
Domini Canium
0
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Posted - 2011.10.03 16:31:00 -
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I kind of got used to EFT. Hopefully it will continue being developed. |
JackStraw56
Bayesian Motion Knights of Tomorrow
6
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Posted - 2011.10.04 01:08:00 -
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Wylee Coyote wrote:Umm...the current EFT (2.13.4 i think and yes, still in the old forums but still easily found through google/any searching and still downloadable) works just fine as is without being fully compatible with the new api-s, just manuelly change the skill levels for your mods. Sure it's an extra minute of work but is that really a problem? Yes, it is a pretty big problem. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.04 02:32:00 -
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Wylee Coyote wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:Wylee Coyote wrote:Umm...the current EFT (2.13.4 i think and yes, still in the old forums but still easily found through google/any searching and still downloadable) works just fine as is without being fully compatible with the new api-s, just manuelly change the skill levels for your mods. Sure it's an extra minute of work but is that really a problem? Yes, it is. Between manual tweaks to see what the next skill level will do to my loadouts and keeping up with my training progression that would be alot of wasted time doing it all manually vs just clicking the update button to update or get back to my current skills. Gives me an excuse to give PYFA a try, i guess. Really? That toon you're on is 11months and 7days old and you can't figure out what skills you have and/or what skills you put in your queue? I mean if you had just started from scratch and everything's still only like 10~30minutes to train I could see that being a problem, but this toon I'm posting on is only 3months 3days old and everything I'm training is at least a day and a half minimum, my other toons are at a week and a half minimum for next skill up. To each their own.
It's called planning and prioritization. Figuring out what combination of skills benefits a ship, or series of ships best, which can mean multiple changes. And even assuming I did track all of my skills in my head, which I don't, it doesn't change the fact that having a button to revert all the changes I've made to help me plan my training is faster than doing it myself. As far as the rest, the number of skills I could inject for less than 1/2 an hour training is quite large. I am only 11 months old. |
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Steven Fonulique
SF Incorporated
2
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Posted - 2011.10.04 08:50:00 -
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Tidurious wrote:Switch to PYFA. Better looks, in my opinion, and works with the new API.
No disrespect to the developers of EFT meant - it was a great tool. I think it has been eclipsed, however.
Tried PYFA, didn't like it. I will happily manually configure eft for the forseeable future. If you need an easy way to reset changes made in eft just make a copy of your current character and change the skills on the new copy then delete it when you're done. |
Wylee Coyote
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2011.10.04 14:31:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote: It's called planning and prioritization.
Shame you decided to waste those on this forum complaining about how a free program, that still works, now takes as long to use as posting a witty forum response. God forbid you played back when there was no eft or skill queue and had to actually use a spreadsheet, set your clock/alarm to skill training times and actually read and memorize the ship stats/bonuses. Do you go out and buy a new tv when the remote control dies? |
mxzf
Shovel Bros
11
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Posted - 2011.10.04 15:13:00 -
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Wylee Coyote wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote: It's called planning and prioritization.
Shame you decided to waste those on this forum complaining about how a free program, that still works, now requires a bit more of each of those.
I don't see anyone complaining on here. I see some people asking if there will be an update to EFT so that it continues to work as-intended. No complaining, just asking politely if there will be an update for the new system. |
Pantload
Handsome Millionaire Playboys Flatline.
0
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Posted - 2011.10.04 15:24:00 -
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Wylee Coyote wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote: It's called planning and prioritization.
Shame you decided to waste those on this forum complaining about how a free program, that still works, now requires a bit more of each of those.
Wow! ****! Thank god! That was a really close one for a minute. Good thing you got that guy straightened out.
I'm like you. I can't believe he had the damn nerve to come on here and ask simple questions. Dumbest thing ever right?
Keep up the good work soldier!
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Wylee Coyote
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2011.10.04 15:35:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote: It's called planning and prioritization. Figuring out what combination of skills benefits a ship, or series of ships best, which can mean multiple changes. And even assuming I did track all of my skills in my head, which I don't, it doesn't change the fact that having a button to revert all the changes I've made to help me plan my training is faster than doing it myself. As far as the rest, the number of skills I could inject for less than 1/2 an hour training is quite large. I am only 11 months old.
The above is complaining. |
Cunane Jeran
10
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Posted - 2011.10.04 15:54:00 -
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I've been using EVEHQ myself
Version 2 is out and sleek as hell, covers absolutely everything you could possibly need from Skill plans, fitting, PI/Industry related stuff, poses, asset viewing
the list goes on and on and on. |
Pantload
Handsome Millionaire Playboys Flatline.
0
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Posted - 2011.10.04 16:14:00 -
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Wylee Coyote wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote: It's called planning and prioritization. Figuring out what combination of skills benefits a ship, or series of ships best, which can mean multiple changes. And even assuming I did track all of my skills in my head, which I don't, it doesn't change the fact that having a button to revert all the changes I've made to help me plan my training is faster than doing it myself. As far as the rest, the number of skills I could inject for less than 1/2 an hour training is quite large. I am only 11 months old.
The above is complaining.
Yes of course. Sure. And like i said....thank god we have you to come and point this out, Officer Poopypants. You should pull him over and give him a ticket! Get yourself a little flashing light and syren maybe? "Pull over this is the forum police! We have it on reliable authority that you've been complaining! This is a violation of nothing in particular and will not be stood for!"
You go get 'em tiger
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Flakey Foont
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2011.10.04 16:36:00 -
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PANTLOAD wrote:
Yes of course. Sure. And like i said....thank god we have you to come and point this out, Officer Poopypants. You should pull him over and give him a ticket! Get yourself a little flashing light and syren maybe? "Pull over this is the forum police! We have it on reliable authority that you've been complaining! This is a violation of nothing in particular and will not be stood for!"
You go get 'em tiger
I agree with the fecophiliac... |
Pantload
Handsome Millionaire Playboys Flatline.
1
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Posted - 2011.10.04 16:40:00 -
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Flakey Foont wrote:fecophiliac
Now that's a fancy word. I endorse the use of this word. |
Wylee Coyote
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2011.10.04 17:30:00 -
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Pantload wrote:Wylee Coyote wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote: It's called planning and prioritization. Figuring out what combination of skills benefits a ship, or series of ships best, which can mean multiple changes. And even assuming I did track all of my skills in my head, which I don't, it doesn't change the fact that having a button to revert all the changes I've made to help me plan my training is faster than doing it myself. As far as the rest, the number of skills I could inject for less than 1/2 an hour training is quite large. I am only 11 months old.
The above is complaining. Yes of course. Sure. And like i said....thank god we have you to come and point this out, Officer Poopypants. You should pull him over and give him a ticket! Get yourself a little flashing light and syren maybe? "Pull over this is the forum police! We have it on reliable authority that you've been complaining! This is a violation of nothing in particular and will not be stood for!" You go get 'em tiger
Glad to oblige the unintelligent. |
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Arazel Chainfire
Fury Lords Apex United
5
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Posted - 2011.10.04 18:43:00 -
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Wylee Coyote wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:Wylee Coyote wrote:Umm...the current EFT (2.13.4 i think and yes, still in the old forums but still easily found through google/any searching and still downloadable) works just fine as is without being fully compatible with the new api-s, just manuelly change the skill levels for your mods. Sure it's an extra minute of work but is that really a problem? Yes, it is. Between manual tweaks to see what the next skill level will do to my loadouts and keeping up with my training progression that would be alot of wasted time doing it all manually vs just clicking the update button to update or get back to my current skills. Gives me an excuse to give PYFA a try, i guess. Really? That toon you're on is 11months and 7days old and you can't figure out what skills you have and/or what skills you put in your queue? I mean if you had just started from scratch and everything's still only like 10~30minutes to train I could see that being a problem, but this toon I'm posting on is only 3months 3days old and everything I'm training is at least a day and a half minimum, my other toons are at a week and a half minimum for next skill up. To each their own.
Sure, its perfectly ok when you have just 1 character. I have 4 myself, and a few dozen other people who I help create fits for, some of whom I have API info for. So no, I don't particularly feel like dealing with manually updating tons of EFT character profiles, some of which I don't actually have access to the character for when a simple button click will solve all these problems. Especially since these characters range from several years old (like myself) to just a few weeks old).
As for PYFA, I don't like it. Part of that is just because its not the format that I'm used to, though yes it does gripe me that it isn't laid out like the in game market is for finding stuff (my biggest gripe with the format). However another big part is that 90%+ of everything I run involves having gang boosts, which pyfa doesn't support. I suppose that if it ever did get around to supporting that I might give it another try, but at this time it doesn't provide me with the tools that I am looking for.
-Arazel |
Pantload
Handsome Millionaire Playboys Flatline.
1
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Posted - 2011.10.04 18:47:00 -
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Wylee Coyote wrote: Glad to oblige the unintelligent.
Uh oh. I've been skewered by Officer Poopypants.
Would it make you feel better if I let you smell my finger? And then we can play guessing games about where that finger has been. I think that sounds like big fun.
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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.04 19:54:00 -
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Wylee Coyote wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote: It's called planning and prioritization. Figuring out what combination of skills benefits a ship, or series of ships best, which can mean multiple changes. And even assuming I did track all of my skills in my head, which I don't, it doesn't change the fact that having a button to revert all the changes I've made to help me plan my training is faster than doing it myself. As far as the rest, the number of skills I could inject for less than 1/2 an hour training is quite large. I am only 11 months old.
The above is complaining.
You seem to be having an issue understanding my post, so let me help:
"It's called planning and prioritization. Figuring out what combination of skills benefits a ship, or series of ships best, which can mean multiple changes." - Here I'm stating a reason for a large number of manual changes to EFT. Not a complaint, just the way I use the program.
"And even assuming I did track all of my skills in my head, which I don't, it doesn't change the fact that having a button to revert all the changes I've made to help me plan my training is faster than doing it myself." - Here I'm identifying the benefit of the functionality being asked about and stating how it helps.
"As far as the rest, the number of skills I could inject for less than 1/2 an hour training is quite large. I am only 11 months old." - This is a response to some BS about how for some reason you think that 11 months is significant training time in this game.
Hope this helps you out. |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
24
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Posted - 2011.10.04 20:02:00 -
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Pantload wrote:Wylee Coyote wrote: Glad to oblige the unintelligent.
Uh oh. I've been skewered by Officer Poopypants. Would it make you feel better if I let you smell my finger? And then we can play guessing games about where that finger has been. I think that sounds like big fun.
This thread is now about Gravity's Rainbow. I move we discuss bananas.
Wait, what? |
Wylee Coyote
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2011.10.04 20:24:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:Wylee Coyote wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote: It's called planning and prioritization. Figuring out what combination of skills benefits a ship, or series of ships best, which can mean multiple changes. And even assuming I did track all of my skills in my head, which I don't, it doesn't change the fact that having a button to revert all the changes I've made to help me plan my training is faster than doing it myself. As far as the rest, the number of skills I could inject for less than 1/2 an hour training is quite large. I am only 11 months old.
The above is complaining. You seem to be having an issue understanding my post, so let me help: "It's called planning and prioritization. Figuring out what combination of skills benefits a ship, or series of ships best, which can mean multiple changes." - Here I'm stating a reason for a large number of manual changes to EFT. Not a complaint, just the way I use the program. "And even assuming I did track all of my skills in my head, which I don't, it doesn't change the fact that having a button to revert all the changes I've made to help me plan my training is faster than doing it myself." - Here I'm identifying the benefit of the functionality being asked about and stating how it helps. "As far as the rest, the number of skills I could inject for less than 1/2 an hour training is quite large. I am only 11 months old." - This is a response to some BS about how for some reason you think that 11 months is significant training time in this game. Hope this helps you out.
Defining the categories you are complaining about helps out immensely, thank you. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.04 20:36:00 -
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Wylee Coyote wrote:Defining the categories you are complaining about helps out immensely, thank you. Ok, so you're just trolling, thought so.
Back on topic, it would be nice to know if it's being worked on. Not even a tread for the program on the new forums is kinda disappointing though. |
Wylee Coyote
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2011.10.04 21:32:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:Wylee Coyote wrote:Defining the categories you are complaining about helps out immensely, thank you. Ok, so you're just trolling, thought so. Back on topic, it would be nice to know if it's being worked on. Not even a tread for the program on the new forums is kinda disappointing though.
You complained, got called out on it, defined what you are complaining about and called another a troll while trying to redirect your position? You sir, are not fooling anyone.
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Pantload
Handsome Millionaire Playboys Flatline.
1
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Posted - 2011.10.04 21:50:00 -
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Officer Poopypants takes his job VERY seriously.
Hence the reason you "Got called out". Your type of flagrant violations of the law cannot and will not be tolerated on his watch.
Officer Poopypants wrote: You sir, are not fooling anyone.
He's got his eye on you, mister! You won't get away with this. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.04 22:27:00 -
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Wylee Coyote wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:Wylee Coyote wrote:Defining the categories you are complaining about helps out immensely, thank you. Ok, so you're just trolling, thought so. Back on topic, it would be nice to know if it's being worked on. Not even a tread for the program on the new forums is kinda disappointing though. You complained, got called out on it, defined what you are complaining about and called another a troll while trying to redirect your position? You sir, are not fooling anyone.
In order to be complaining, I would have had to express dissatisfaction with the current state of EFT, which I did not do in the post you identified as "complaining." I can see that case being made against my first post, which is why I made the second to clarify. The post you claim is complaining has no actual complaints as it did not express dissatisfaction with the current state of the program. It only stated why and how the functionality is useful to me individually.
As far as my position, it never changed from what it was even before this thread started: It would be nice if EFT was updated to use CAK.
And yes, you are trolling. While this is killing a bit of downtime, I think I'll stop feeding. |
Pantload
Handsome Millionaire Playboys Flatline.
1
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Posted - 2011.10.04 23:03:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:Various things
Explaining yourself to Officer Poopypants will only add fuel to his fire.
I tell you though...aside from his obvious personality flaws, I still think he's just adorable.
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