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Velios
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Posted - 2005.03.03 13:38:00 -
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It pains me to announce the closure of the BPC business I and many other corp members have grown over the past 18 months of playing EVE. During this time we have invested profits in the procurement of more and more blueprints in an effort to supply the eve community with something unique. The M.Corp BPC package has been a recognised product for thousands of satisfied customers for so long now.
We have met a lot of friends along the way... The personal way in which we conduct business is the main pleasure for us... many customers became corp members and even corp directors. The community we developed in our BPC channel was unique and something to be proud of, and it is with a heavy heart that we will no longer be able to offer this service to eve.
The reason we are stopping is simply because we cannot realistically inflate the price of our BPC packages at the same rate as the lab slot rent rises which are set to hit 2m isk every few days in the next week. For all the work that goes into making these packages (over 50 items per pack) we are only just breaking even at the end of each week, and the lab costs are set to overtake our projected income by the end of next week.
At it's height, M.Corp could make maybe 100-150m isk in an evening if we worked hard, advertising in the correct places, and taking the time with our customers to make sure they left happy and would spread the word to their friends. I would like to personally thank each and every person that came through our doors to buy BPC's from us - you made being an eve businessman very enjoyable for all of us on the team! :)
This is not a whinging post - after all it's CCP's game and they can do what they like with EVE in an attempt to make it better. I and many many others however do not agree that the heavy handed approach to lab / factory / office rental rises is good for the EVE population in general. The game has become a financial burden for a lot of players I have spoken too, and all the fun has been drained out of it for many of us right now.
M.Corp will of course try to resume our activity bigger and better than before, all that we require is a suitable climate for a stable business to operate in and the knowledge that the rug will not once again be pulled from under our feet... making all the effort we put in meaningless.
Many thanks! and safe flight to all :)
Moved from EVE General Discussion -zhuge
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CmdrRat
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Posted - 2005.03.03 13:43:00 -
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Sad to hear, but now that it is over I'm wondering how many lab slots you had going at once?
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Omber Zombie
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Posted - 2005.03.03 13:44:00 -
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----------- "Remember people: Omber is the biggest evil ever created, DO NOT let it get to you!" Waagaa Ktlehr, BDCI
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Aenigma
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Posted - 2005.03.03 13:47:00 -
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It seems CCP strategy is going to work after all then, because you will now probably give up your labslots. It's a shame though, that you, people who actually use them have to give them up, instead of all those people who research shuttle BPOs to ME 14500.
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Valentine Keen
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Posted - 2005.03.03 13:54:00 -
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A sad day, my friend, a sad day.
I wish M. Corp all the best in whatever it channels its energies into so effectively as the BPC trade once ran. Truly a market defining corp that served hundreds if not thousands of players with care and professionalism.
Being a part of that success and that effort remain some of my proudest memories in EVE and I wish you well.
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Bsport
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Posted - 2005.03.03 14:25:00 -
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Edited by: Bsport on 03/03/2005 14:26:22
Originally by: Valentine Keen A sad day, my friend, a sad day.
I wish M. Corp all the best in whatever it channels its energies into so effectively as the BPC trade once ran. Truly a market defining corp that served hundreds if not thousands of players with care and professionalism.
Agreed
this is a sad day indeed , very sorry to hear that velios :(
CCP maybe a POS with labs that dont cost the earth to run is in order --------
|~~~| I run out of money, so bunny has been | OIL | grounded down to make grease for my |____| rifter- poor bunny
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Jade NightStorm
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Posted - 2005.03.03 14:34:00 -
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You make 100 > 150m an evening! 5 or 7 days rental for a Lab slot 2mill (aprox) atm for the rent
Therefore: -
5 days * 125m = 625mill / 2mill rent = 312 lab slots.
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7 days * 125m = 875m / 2mill rent = 437 lab slots.
WOW!!!
Either way you look at it that is OTFT!!
I think we have found the culprit for the lab/office rent increase.
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2005.03.03 14:42:00 -
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Death to IKEA battleships
Perhaps you can continue this once the lab market settles at a reasonable price. __________ Capacitor research |
Valentine Keen
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Posted - 2005.03.03 15:02:00 -
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Originally by: Jade NightStorm You make 100 > 150m an evening! 5 or 7 days rental for a Lab slot 2mill (aprox) atm for the rent
Therefore: -
5 days * 125m = 625mill / 2mill rent = 312 lab slots.
-or-
7 days * 125m = 875m / 2mill rent = 437 lab slots.
WOW!!!
Either way you look at it that is OTFT!!
I think we have found the culprit for the lab/office rent increase.
Please note that this income would have been at the height of trading, before BS bpc's flooded escrow and that to do so often required many hours of effort of behalf of the sales staff and others at M. Corp.
A more moderate measure of succes might be to state sales topped 1bn isk in a month, which would be a more stable estimate to base any calculations upon.
Also note that to make that income required a blueprint investment in originals probably in excess of 8 billion isk, a lot for a small, dedicated corp to work towards achieving.
Furthermore, researching an battleship print to the point of reasonable sale (ME10) takes one month of research before even seeing a single isk of that investment being recouped.
Whatever the issue with lab slots, I can assure you M. Corp worked hard for every single sale and to grow that business and gained a reputation second to none for dedication and customer service.
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HG Wells
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Posted - 2005.03.03 15:08:00 -
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Edited by: HG Wells on 03/03/2005 15:11:01 Always had excellent service and products from Velios and M.Corp, a sad day, I hope the situation improves so you can return to your excellent form.
Good luck in your endeavours
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Jandon Kell
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Posted - 2005.03.03 15:18:00 -
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Sorry to see M. Corp get out of the business. They've always been professional and came upon a unique way to do business.
Raising prices, i still believe, was the thing to do, but knowing how the prices are increasing, i wonder two things; how much further will the prices go up, and at what point will ccp say to themselves "Yes we brought the prices up, but it looks like we will need to incease the number of slots available in the eve universe. Uhh...My happy glands are out of control |
FoRGyL
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Posted - 2005.03.03 15:52:00 -
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Very good service reall sad to see u go! + I was just about to buy stuff ,,DAMN..ohh the loss is greater then my lost deal.
Sad.
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Velios
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Posted - 2005.03.03 16:03:00 -
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Well we do have some things in stock, ATM i believe we have most things available. |
Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.03.03 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: Velios
Haha, what a drama bomb. Stop buying all the lab slots, hording them and if they are full move out to more fringe areas to get cheaper lab slots. Its not like you need anything but a fast frigate to move your products.
Oh wait, don't do that. I hate competition and would rather you whine and quit.
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Velios
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Posted - 2005.03.03 16:15:00 -
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erm... shut up you BPC n00b |
Enderx45
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Posted - 2005.03.03 16:39:00 -
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Edited by: Enderx45 on 03/03/2005 16:40:15 OHES NOES TEH DRAMAM BOMB SOMEONE SET US UP!! plz get overyourself how in the world can you say that is not a whining post?
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Velios
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Posted - 2005.03.03 16:54:00 -
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Tossers like you should not be allowed to play EVE, you lower the standard. |
ApophisXP
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Posted - 2005.03.03 16:59:00 -
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Edited by: ApophisXP on 03/03/2005 16:59:01 wrong post lol.
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Jim Steele
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Posted - 2005.03.03 17:38:00 -
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Sorry your going out of the BPC market, i agree that its become increasingly difficult to offer the packages you did and i understand the logistics of just running a few labslots doing cruiser BPC's but well done for all the sucesses you had with them.
Lets hope production doesnt suffer as BPC's become less availible, but i suppose deidicated producers will have there own BPO's by now anyway.
Death to the Galante |
MeGrand
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Posted - 2005.03.03 17:46:00 -
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Sorry to see you go your provided a very usefull service
Hopefully we'll see you back when lab prices drop and/or POS labs become a real posibility
you were very handy to set a new corp up with blueprints cheers! All the right letters - just not nessacarily in the right order |
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.03.03 18:25:00 -
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I can't pretend that I think this is a bad thing. ______________________________________________
Never argue with idiots. They will just drag it down to their level, and then beat you through experience. |
Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.03.03 19:03:00 -
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As a producer I am very happy that one of the biggest reasons my business has suffered over the last 18 months has gone out of business.
As a player I wish you the best, velios, I hope you find another niche to work your magic :)
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VortiK
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Posted - 2005.03.03 20:31:00 -
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Fly safe M.ates
What is a life, devoid of strife ? Glorious Furture |
Vigilant
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Posted - 2005.03.03 20:32:00 -
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What a bummer Well someday..hopefully CCP will fix this error on their part.. and you can start over again..
Thanks for a Great Service Velios...sad to hear this news.
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Verone
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Posted - 2005.03.03 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: Velios Tossers like you should not be allowed to play EVE, you lower the standard.
agreed, sorry to hear about the reduction in trade... it seems the skyroceting lab prices are taking their toll
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Tyto
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Posted - 2005.03.03 20:53:00 -
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Velios, I'm sorry if this sound heavy handed, but I'm really tired and my diplomacy is probably not what it should be.
To summarise, the selling of BPCs is no longer profitable for you to have a (presumably) large amount of labs so you are releasing them. Well, wasn't that what the rental changed were designed to do? So is your post reporting success for CCP's plan?
I also don't see the need to garner sympathy for your plight with RP'ed customer service. Let's be honest sales in Eve are nothing about how good your service is, it's all price, supply and demand.
In summary, "Lab monopoly collapses under increased market pressure."
That was exactly the plan.
Presumably M Corp will either go further out of empire, thus freeing up empire slots, or stop using slots, thus ... well, freeing up slots. If it is affecting you, then it surely must be starting to pinch other big renters... result!
Just out of curiosity, why weren't you able to up the prices of your BPCs to match your increased costs? Were your competitors selling at a loss? Or had they found a way of keeping costs down?
Just wondrin' (and apologies if it is too blunt!... so tired...)
Tyto
(PS, calling someone a t*sser in a forum is not very nice)
"Dulce Bellum Inexpertis"
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FenikSar
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Posted - 2005.03.03 22:34:00 -
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Totally agree, not only has it hit the big sellers, the small time sellers cant trade. HOW can i possibly afford to copy cruiser,destroyers at that cost a week its not an income its a chore now just getting enough cash to pay the lab fee. Before you say move out to fringe tried it and nope everyones out there with labs there are none free.
I Cant Read And I Cant Write But I Can Fly A Cruiser |
JAckmeoff
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Posted - 2005.03.03 22:42:00 -
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Edited by: JAckmeoff on 03/03/2005 22:45:19 Edited by: JAckmeoff on 03/03/2005 22:42:32 On second thoughts, M.Corp have decided to retract our previous statement, our BPC sales will remain throughout the Eve universe and we will not be releasing any of our labslots too any of you haters/monkeys/tossers, so up yours _I_
JAck(Carebear Alt of Theeta)
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Mangold
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Posted - 2005.03.04 12:06:00 -
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Originally by: FenikSar Totally agree, not only has it hit the big sellers, the small time sellers cant trade. HOW can i possibly afford to copy cruiser,destroyers at that cost a week its not an income its a chore now just getting enough cash to pay the lab fee. Before you say move out to fringe tried it and nope everyones out there with labs there are none free.
I may be wrong but wasn't the plan to stop people making lots av BPC and instead research their BPOs and make ships and stuff....?
In that case it looks like it's working.
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Zigadenus
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Posted - 2005.03.05 01:23:00 -
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Originally by: Tyto
I also don't see the need to garner sympathy for your plight with RP'ed customer service. Let's be honest sales in Eve are nothing about how good your service is, it's all price, supply and demand.
On the contrary, M.Corp's trademark customer service was a key factor in return business as well as attracting new business.
Originally by: Tyto
In summary, "Lab monopoly collapses under increased market pressure."
That was exactly the plan.
In reality, a large market demand not only drives prices, it also drives supply. Too bad the plan did not also implement a significant increase in supply instead of merely jacking up the price. By limiting the availability of a commodity to a significantly reduced customer base, trade will surely suffer. Alas, perhaps that was also an objective of the plan.
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