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Zirse
Minmatar ZED Industries
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Posted - 2011.07.30 20:58:00 -
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I would wager that at least 1/3 to a half of highsec characters are nullsec alts. All paid for by the L4 mission runners of course.
At the end of the day, CSM players run on a platform. Whether its highsec or nullsec or whatever, they are still their to represent their platform. Why you idiots need to whine about this for weeks on end is beyond me, but I'm really enjoying the tears so I can't complain.
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Zirse
Minmatar ZED Industries
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Posted - 2011.07.30 22:08:00 -
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Someone has to throw tomatoes at the poor clowns in the stocks.
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Zirse
Minmatar ZED Industries
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Posted - 2011.08.07 17:23:00 -
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Its pretty common knowledge that many, if not most nullsec players have at least one alt in highsec, probably more than that on average. With the way the game is structured right now, its not feasible for an alliance to operate without trips to Jita and at the same time, not feasible for nullsec mains to make the trip to Jita. There's also invention, suicide ganking/griefing/scamming, and L4's that many players keep high sec alts for.
Can I ask players that identify as 'highsec' only players a question? Why are you so adamantly against 0.0? Have you ever tried it? The game is a lot richer of an experience once you become accustomed to the lifestyle. It's definitely not all blobs blobs blobs, despite what you may hear.
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Zirse
Minmatar Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.08.07 20:10:00 -
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Originally by: Cedille Mureau Edited by: Cedille Mureau on 07/08/2011 19:10:44
Originally by: Zirse Can I ask players that identify as 'highsec' only players a question? Why are you so adamantly against 0.0? Have you ever tried it? The game is a lot richer of an experience once you become accustomed to the lifestyle. It's definitely not all blobs blobs blobs, despite what you may hear.
I can only speak for myself of course. No, I'm not "adamantly against 0.0" What I am against is the perceived threat to hisec by elements of the CSM and others to give 0.0 advantages at the expense of other sections of the game. It may not be all blobs, blobs, blobs but it does seem to have a lifestyle different to hisec and one which does not appeal to me. I'm happy to use EVE as an occasional diversion from the pressures of real life and a slow tranquil playing style is what I enjoy. I run a few missions, explore, especially in COSMOS systems and take my time, for me, at my own pace.
I have never said that I want to make the life of 0.0 worse so that I can enjoy playing EVE. On the other hand I do object to any attempts to make me pay for the priviledges of others.
What are these advantages you speak of? High-sec shouldn't be, (and won't be,) nullified to the point that no one wants to live there. However, EVE is based on a risk vs reward concept. Some of those ratios are being looked at as possibly needing tweaking; specifically in making industry more rewarding in nullsec because right now its infeasible despite the increased risk and :effort: required.
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Zirse
Minmatar Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.08.08 19:32:00 -
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Edited by: Zirse on 08/08/2011 19:33:11
Originally by: Dusty Warrior Edited by: Dusty Warrior on 08/08/2011 19:18:13
The best thing for the CSM would be for it to fade into history much like ship spinning.
Once the CSM is gone, implement a periodic 1-3 questionaire to be answered by the whole community during the login process.
The implementation would then allow everyone, from nub to the old vets a voice... not just the ones who have the time to troll forums.... like myself.
I would argue that it's better to have a highly interested and on average more informed group giving feedback rather than every loser with big dreams and vague notions of how EVE works.
Not to mention you need a small group to discuss and debate future proposals under the NDA.
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Zirse
Minmatar Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.08.08 20:01:00 -
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Edited by: Zirse on 08/08/2011 20:01:58 Edited by: Zirse on 08/08/2011 20:01:13
Originally by: Dusty Warrior
Originally by: Zirse Edited by: Zirse on 08/08/2011 19:33:11
Originally by: Dusty Warrior Edited by: Dusty Warrior on 08/08/2011 19:18:13
The best thing for the CSM would be for it to fade into history much like ship spinning.
Once the CSM is gone, implement a periodic 1-3 questionaire to be answered by the whole community during the login process.
The implementation would then allow everyone, from nub to the old vets a voice... not just the ones who have the time to troll forums.... like myself.
I would argue that it's better to have a highly interested and on average more informed group giving feedback rather than every loser with big dreams and vague notions of how EVE works.
Not to mention you need a small group to discuss and debate future proposals under the NDA.
You had me reading up to "on average more informed". Recent events is evidential that part isn't true for this CSM.
Besides, what makes a nub with unrealistic dreams any less important than someone who sits in 0.0? Especially if said person pays a sub like everyone else?
This CSM knows far more about null sec than any CSM previous, an area of the game long due for an overhaul. Their input, which is by and large representiive of the residents of Nullsec, will be invaluable to CCP. How would high sec residents be able to provide meaningful feedback on this area of the game?
Surveys wouldn't be a bad thing for some things, but they're no replacement for the CSM.
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Zirse
Minmatar Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.08.13 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: FloppieTheBanjoClown Some friends and I are trying to put together "something" for CSM7. We're trying to figure out a platform for improving highsec, making Eve more noob-friendly without building walls in the sandbox, and creating better avenues for young, independent players to find their way OUT of highsec into low/null without getting their asses shot off every time.
Apply to a nullsec/lowsec corp. It really is that simple. And under no circumstances contract your stuff to anyone, or pay anybody, because that's a scam.
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Zirse
Minmatar Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.08.14 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: FloppieTheBanjoClown
Originally by: Zirse Apply to a nullsec/lowsec corp. It really is that simple.
That SHOULD NOT be the only answer to "how do I play this game" in a game that prides itself on being a sandbox. The point of the sandbox is being able to play how you want, not everyone becoming a cog in one of the nullsec machines.
There's nothing stopping you and your friends from sandboxing it up-- forming your own corp and staking a claim in lowsec/nullsec. However remember there is always the other side of the sandbox-- the freedom for me and all my friends to come **** on your parade if you can't defend it.
Here's how it works:
People have been operating in nullsec for a long time. It's no easy task, there is a lot you need to know how to do. You need competent FCs to lead your pilots, you need JFs to import/export, you need blockade runners and rorqs to do POS logistics.
All of the people currently playing in nullsec have friends that they have been playing with for a longtime. They will also be able to roflstomp any amount of new players trying to learn wtf is nullsec/lowsec.
However, there are still new alliances emerging at a steady rate, and some even have new players--imagine that. They start as renters or pet corps, learning the ropes riding on some alliance coattails, and after a while they might earn enough respect to become a full alliance member. When their alliance failcascades, they might even have the political capital to start a new alliance.
Its just not feasible for a corp/alliance of new players to succeed unsupported unless there is literally thousands of you, a la original goonswarm.
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