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Koba Kyogen
The Concordiat Concordiat Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.29 02:36:00 -
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Originally by: Vandrion Edited by: Vandrion on 29/06/2011 01:55:10 I think it is funny how very few people have picked up on the DUST 514 MT for advantage tie in we are going to get.....
Don't forget-- Dust will impact 0.0 sov!
Edit-- Do you really think CCP is going to back down on MT for advantage when they already designed Dust to change the Eve universe???
This doesn't get enough attention - I'm prepared for bad news out of this faux conference.
Koba
Originally by: CCP Sharkbait we are screwed. delaying startup again.
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XSarah
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Posted - 2011.06.29 02:38:00 -
[12842]
Originally by: Zero GodOfDestruction
Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?
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Virene Mene
Caldari Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.06.29 02:50:00 -
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Originally by: XSarah
Originally by: Zero GodOfDestruction
Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?
not empty quotin
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Vandrion
Gallente The Collective B O R G
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Posted - 2011.06.29 02:56:00 -
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Originally by: Adunh Slavy
Originally by: Vandrion
It isn't about the ISK. It is about the fact that DUST will be a game based on MT for advantage. Dusties will be able to buy with RL $$ upgraded gear. Upgraded gear gives them an advantage. Dust will have a yet to be specified impact on Eve per CCP in the RPS interview after E3 HERE.
You're correct, it's not about the ISK, not for CCP, for them it is about the $cash. It may be about the ISK for alliances though, if they are forced into positions where they have to flood their DustMercs with ISK, and if Aurum can be transferred between Eve and Dust ... Big Yellow Question is a dangerous one, regardless of what they had intended for the Internet Space Ships side of things.
Dust hopefully have a reason to send wealth backup stairs, cause if not, it could be ... bad.
When I made the thread I linked a few posts up I wasn't worried about the wealth... I was worried about the $$ for advantage spreading and now here we are!
Regardless of what the CSM comes back with we will have MT by proxy with Dust. If the CCP says (lies) we won't have MT other then vanity they are just buying time. Once Dust rolls out they will have their final excuse to roll full blown MT into Eve...
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Tugrath Akers
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Posted - 2011.06.29 02:59:00 -
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Originally by: Zero GodOfDestruction
Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?
Do you people really not know the answer to this question yet?
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randomToon987
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Posted - 2011.06.29 03:01:00 -
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Eve with MT isn't Eve any more. Fools will keep playing, but the "soul" of the game is dead. I say:
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Smeeds
GoonWaffe
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Posted - 2011.06.29 03:03:00 -
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Originally by: Tugrath Akers
Originally by: Zero GodOfDestruction
Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?
Do you people really not know the answer to this question yet?
I dunno do we? I think the answer is yes. Or wait, maybe no? ****. Can CCP just tell us already?
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Maeleos Strom
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Posted - 2011.06.29 03:03:00 -
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Originally by: Vandrion
Originally by: Adunh Slavy
Originally by: Vandrion Edited by: Vandrion on 29/06/2011 01:55:10 I think it is funny how very few people have picked up on the DUST 514 MT for advantage tie in we are going to get.....
Don't forget-- Dust will impact 0.0 sov!
Edit-- Do you really think CCP is going to back down on MT for advantage when they already designed Dust to change the Eve universe???
That has not been lost on me, been saying it since the E3 news. How it manifests in Eve is at this time difficult to predict because we don't know all the links yet. Is it just ISK? What is the faucet/sink ratio in Dust, is Dust going to turn into a giant ISK vacuum? What reason do DustBunnies have to send any ISK back upstairs?
I suspect this is partly why they may have a difficult time in answering The Big Yellow Question, because MT P2W is coming to this 'eve-verse' in Dust. If they say "no never in Eve", but then say "yes for dust", then the marketing blurbs of "one universe/one war" start to look kind of thin. Rock meet hard place - And this assumes they were not going to try and slurp $cash from Eve in the first place.
It isn't about the ISK. It is about the fact that DUST will be a game based on MT for advantage. Dusties will be able to buy with RL $$ upgraded gear. Upgraded gear gives them an advantage. Dust will have a yet to be specified impact on Eve per CCP in the RPS interview after E3 HERE.
I quote: "RPS: So, if IĈm an EVE player, how is my game going to change after DUST is released?
Torfi: Well, you have the ability to be more strategic when you are conquering planets and solar systems, in nulsec. Those are the main touchpoints. Highsec carebears need not worry. The same for lowsec. The main touchpoint upon the launch of DUST, will be in nulsec, will be in sovereignty, will be in inflicting damage and destruction and death upon your enemies, destroying their infrastructure and their means to survive, either by means or scorched earth or by stealing their installations on the surfaces of planets. There will be more going on on the surfaces of planets. WeĈve introduced mechanics allowing people to manufacture goods on the planets, but planets will play a more pivotal role in sovereignty mechanics further down the line."
One Universe/One War/One more way for CCP to sneak $$$$ for advantage in!
If this is so, although an exciting concept that adds a bit more depth to the game itself. Although it does deviate from the actual game of flying space ships and pew pew. But it is a good idea to have dust have an effect on certain parts of eve....ONLY if EVERYONE can play as the ground forces at will, none of this consol only crap. because not everyone has a ps3....
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Viking Sven
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Posted - 2011.06.29 03:08:00 -
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Originally by: Maeleos Strom If this is so, although an exciting concept that adds a bit more depth to the game itself. Although it does deviate from the actual game of flying space ships and pew pew. But it is a good idea to have dust have an effect on certain parts of eve....ONLY if EVERYONE can play as the ground forces at will, none of this consol only crap. because not everyone has a ps3....
They're only releasing dust on PS3. If you can't afford a PS3, CCP isn't going to care anyways... Dust is going to be hardcore MT, so unless you're rich you're not their target demographic.
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Sha Dar
eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred
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Posted - 2011.06.29 03:14:00 -
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Dust is gonna crash and burn.
You name me one console shooter with any meaningful longevity after the next big console shooter comes out and puts it to shame.
The very nature of the console market means "ooh new shiny" wins, and dust will be left behind like many other games, very quickly.
It's effect on EVE will be short lived in terms of 0.0, if at all.
CCP on the other hand, could have just effectively flushed EVE down the toilet, what with the reduced income, reduced development (other than wan*ing in stations) and general asshattery... |
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Vandrion
Gallente The Collective B O R G
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Posted - 2011.06.29 03:15:00 -
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Originally by: Maeleos Strom If this is so, although an exciting concept that adds a bit more depth to the game itself. Although it does deviate from the actual game of flying space ships and pew pew. But it is a good idea to have dust have an effect on certain parts of eve....ONLY if EVERYONE can play as the ground forces at will, none of this consol only crap. because not everyone has a ps3....
You sir don't get it........
DUST=MT for advantage + DUST= Impact to 0.0 sov in a significant way per CCP = MT for advantage in Eve.....
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Zero GodOfDestruction
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Posted - 2011.06.29 03:17:00 -
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Originally by: Sha Dar Dust is gonna crash and burn.
You name me one console shooter with any meaningful longevity after the next big console shooter comes out and puts it to shame.
The very nature of the console market means "ooh new shiny" wins, and dust will be left behind like many other games, very quickly.
It's effect on EVE will be short lived in terms of 0.0, if at all.
CCP on the other hand, could have just effectively flushed EVE down the toilet, what with the reduced income, reduced development (other than wan*ing in stations) and general asshattery...
So dust is doomed to be left in the...dust? How irionic. Thats all considering if CCP survives this 'storm and makes it to releasing dust. This video is brilliant and is a must watch for anyone angry with what CCP has done and will do. "You the people have the power!" |
Kewso
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Posted - 2011.06.29 03:26:00 -
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Mi Taipan
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Posted - 2011.06.29 03:30:00 -
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CCP, your bean counters should be made to understand one very important thing: EVE players are NOT Farmville players! We don't really want to spend RL cash on shiny objects in-game. Your bean counters simply have no idea what it is about this game that keeps us as paying customers. CCP urgently needs to identify what that is, describe it internally in concrete terms, and keep it inviolate. Drill it into the thick skulls of those bean counters that if the game loses that, then they lose their goddamned paycheck! Maybe then they'll start thinking with their heads instead of their goddamned "Greed is Good" id.
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2011.06.29 03:35:00 -
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Originally by: Mi Taipan CCP, your bean counters should be made to understand one very important thing: EVE players are NOT Farmville players! We don't really want to spend RL cash on shiny objects in-game.
Speak for yourself.
I love shiny objects. If I can find you in game I will take them from your wreck. If not I'll buy 'em from the store.
No matter to me.
Mr Epeen
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Oedepus
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Posted - 2011.06.29 03:36:00 -
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Originally by: Sha Dar Dust is gonna crash and burn.
You name me one console shooter with any meaningful longevity after the next big console shooter comes out and puts it to shame.
The very nature of the console market means "ooh new shiny" wins, and dust will be left behind like many other games, very quickly.
It's effect on EVE will be short lived in terms of 0.0, if at all.
CCP on the other hand, could have just effectively flushed EVE down the toilet, what with the reduced income, reduced development (other than wan*ing in stations) and general asshattery...
^^ This!
If CCP doesn't release a new version of Dust every year to year and half with updated graphics and game play then the original Dust will be left behind as the A.D.D prone console gamers will very quickly move to the next big thing. The only thing that may provide any longetivity for Dust is if they produced a PC version that eve players could quicly switch over to or multibox with. But we know where they stand on that, there will never be a PC version. Sony would never play with CCP if Hilmar said "Oh, by the way we are going to make a PC version of this also". To get Sony buy off, I bet CCP had to go exclusively with them.
Based upon Sony's recent troubles I would probably think twice before trusting them with any financial information.
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Atari Gene
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Posted - 2011.06.29 03:43:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Epeen
Originally by: Mi Taipan CCP, your bean counters should be made to understand one very important thing: EVE players are NOT Farmville players! We don't really want to spend RL cash on shiny objects in-game.
Speak for yourself.
I love shiny objects. If I can find you in game I will take them from your wreck. If not I'll buy 'em from the store.
No matter to me.
You should be buying and wearing a monocle then so that it fits with your character posts
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Sanya Lyss
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Posted - 2011.06.29 03:46:00 -
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Originally by: Kewso
Lol this gave me an idea. Maybe ccp made a deal with lulzsec not to be ddos-ed anymore if they put monocles for 70$ ingame.
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SuZiE DeMaRcHi
Caldari Working For The Enemy Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.29 03:46:00 -
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Havent CCP got back to us yet o_0 WTF i was afk for 3 days hoping by now something would have popped up Doesnt CCP care ?
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Viking Sven
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Posted - 2011.06.29 03:48:00 -
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Originally by: SuZiE DeMaRcHi Havent CCP got back to us yet o_0 WTF i was afk for 3 days hoping by now something would have popped up Doesnt CCP care ?
They're probably under strict gag orders until CCP crunches numbers on losses from accounts leaving vs. potential sales from MT.
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Capsuleer Newton
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.29 03:51:00 -
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Originally by: SuZiE DeMaRcHi Havent CCP got back to us yet o_0 WTF i was afk for 3 days hoping by now something would have popped up Doesnt CCP care ?
I'm afraid, they never really cared in the first place... all those hogwash in the past are just that, hogwash, though i think they deserve credit for caring on the first 2 years of existence of Eve, and that's about it.. :))
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SuZiE DeMaRcHi
Caldari Working For The Enemy Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.29 04:00:00 -
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Originally by: Capsuleer Newton
Originally by: SuZiE DeMaRcHi Havent CCP got back to us yet o_0 WTF i was afk for 3 days hoping by now something would have popped up Doesnt CCP care ?
I'm afraid, they never really cared in the first place... all those hogwash in the past are just that, hogwash, though i think they deserve credit for caring on the first 2 years of existence of Eve, and that's about it.. :))
Dam now i have to find a new MMO to play now Any idea's ?
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Sha Dar
eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred
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Posted - 2011.06.29 04:01:00 -
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Perpetuum, once the servers are uprated to handle all the new incoming players. |
Capsuleer Newton
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.29 04:04:00 -
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Edited by: Capsuleer Newton on 29/06/2011 04:04:58
Originally by: Sha Dar Perpetuum, once the servers are uprated to handle all the new incoming players.
i read their forums, its just a bug in their "relay server" so they say, their devs are telling that servers are below 10% utilization. "testing the waters" there also..
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Kami Lincoln
Amarr Haz Buttonz Strategic Insanity
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Posted - 2011.06.29 04:05:00 -
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Well. I want to believe you, and I'm sure allot of other people do too. But you guys kinda blew our trust... It's going to take some time to build it up again. Ill try to stick around and give you guys another chance... If I don't have to keep reinstalling my entire client every time a patch comes out >.< But in the meantime Ill lose a pitchfork or 2... /hugs CCP Pann
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Viking Sven
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Posted - 2011.06.29 04:07:00 -
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Originally by: Kami Lincoln Well. I want to believe you, and I'm sure allot of other people do too. But you guys kinda blew our trust... It's going to take some time to build it up again. Ill try to stick around and give you guys another chance... If I don't have to keep reinstalling my entire client every time a patch comes out >.< But in the meantime Ill lose a pitchfork or 2... /hugs CCP Pann
lol... he says to the 4 day old post with no answers from CCP yet...
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AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.29 04:10:00 -
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Originally by: Kami Lincoln Well. I want to believe you, and I'm sure allot of other people do too. But you guys kinda blew our trust... It's going to take some time to build it up again. Ill try to stick around and give you guys another chance... If I don't have to keep reinstalling my entire client every time a patch comes out >.< But in the meantime Ill lose a pitchfork or 2... /hugs CCP Pann
You're in the right alliance, at least.
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Londo Cebb
Official Market Discussions Troll
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Posted - 2011.06.29 04:37:00 -
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This is not going away.
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Viking Sven
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Posted - 2011.06.29 04:39:00 -
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Originally by: Londo Cebb This is not going away.
Not as long as CCP ignores it.
If they were hoping we'd all just kind of forget about it, they are going to be a tad disappointed.
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Nath Blazek
Minmatar Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2011.06.29 04:39:00 -
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Originally by: Mia Aires Edited by: Mia Aires on 26/06/2011 13:01:23 Edited by: Mia Aires on 26/06/2011 13:00:31
Originally by: Nath Blazek
Originally by: Mia Aires Edited by: Mia Aires on 26/06/2011 12:38:21 F***ing amazimg laser show @ JITA 4-4
http://postimage.org/image/rf5ycsdg/full/
I'd be the Maelstrom with 8 quad lasers in xmas tree formation o/
This is for you Nath!
Outstanding!!! (prepping for 7/2 just in case -
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Of Course!
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