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Solomon XI
Hidden Souls
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Posted - 2011.06.23 04:33:00 -
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Originally by: Neo160 to be honest, i actually overreacted.
imma man up and say this: i set my graphics setting to their highest settings after installing incarna and forgot to turn them back down.
DOH, no wonder i had heat issues, i asked the client to tax my computer, not CQ.
people experiencing issues may want to make sure their graphics settings are optimized for their hardware.
I did ...
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Zachstar
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Posted - 2011.06.23 04:33:00 -
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Originally by: Neo160 to be honest, i actually overreacted.
imma man up and say this: i set my graphics setting to their highest settings after installing incarna and forgot to turn them back down.
DOH, no wonder i had heat issues, i asked the client to tax my computer, not CQ.
people experiencing issues may want to make sure their graphics settings are optimized for their hardware.
Even with lower settings your CPU and GPU are still going to be taxed because now they will render more FPS. This is why you NEED to have good cooling.
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Ealric Sorden
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Posted - 2011.06.23 04:33:00 -
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You mean like how when a person with consistent 100% (let's say 98-100% for accuracy) load on a GPU undocks from the CQ, it suddenly drops back into a normal GPU load profile? A profile that matches pretty much any other game out there in terms of how a GPU is utilized...
Oh, so much for a game constantly using 100% of the resources available to it. There is nothing in the CQ that should be causing 100% load on some of these systems, and your post a while back trying to explain how it should was so laughable I couldn't even be bothered with a response.
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Jerry Pepridge
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Posted - 2011.06.23 04:34:00 -
[424]
buy a better PC you ****wits jesus. _________________________________________________
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Solomon XI
Hidden Souls
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Posted - 2011.06.23 04:37:00 -
[425]
Originally by: Jerry Pepridge buy a better PC you ****wits jesus.
shut the **** up, troll.
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Zero GodOfDestruction
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Posted - 2011.06.23 04:42:00 -
[426]
Originally by: Jerry Pepridge buy a better PC you ****wits jesus.
Congrats on not having anything better to do all day than to ***** at people. I genuinely feel sorry for you, to be so full of hate, or boredom, or to just enjoy making others suffer, something must have seriously jaded you at some point in your life. Enjoy knowing that in 1000 years no one will remember your avi, alaias, or your real name, and your actions will all have been in vain.
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Solomon XI
Hidden Souls
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Posted - 2011.06.23 04:50:00 -
[427]
Dump
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OMGWTFResearch
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Posted - 2011.06.23 04:56:00 -
[428]
Originally by: Ealric Sorden You mean like how when a person with consistent 100% (let's say 98-100% for accuracy) load on a GPU undocks from the CQ, it suddenly drops back into a normal GPU load profile? A profile that matches pretty much any other game out there in terms of how a GPU is utilized...
Oh, so much for a game constantly using 100% of the resources available to it. There is nothing in the CQ that should be causing 100% load on some of these systems, and your post a while back trying to explain how it should was so laughable I couldn't even be bothered with a response.
Space isn't rendering multiple video streams = check Space ins't having to render a very complex scene VERY close to the camera = check
Ya there is a difference.
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Zero GodOfDestruction
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Posted - 2011.06.23 04:57:00 -
[429]
Originally by: Loki Vengeance
A new expansion increasing the amount of resources required to run the game is hardly a problem; it's not even unexpected. I absolutely agree that CQ should be made more efficient and I'm sure that it will. But it isn't a bug and it isn't a "problem" in the sense that there's something wrong with the software. It's doing everything it's supposed to do; it's just using more resources to get the job done than should be required considering what's taking place.
But what some people here are claiming is that there's some kind of bug in the Eve Online software which is causing their hardware to overheat. That's flat wrong. It's simply impossible. Yes, CCP should make CQ (and everything else in Eve) as efficient as possible. But is there a "problem" associated with that? Not as such.
The fact that some people are coming to the conclusion that it a bug is perfectly understandable. The real issue is that incarana shouldn't have been released in its current state since it is keeping many from running eve, and others from barely running it safely, all for something that doesn't fundementally affect normal gameplay (other than playability issues) I also realize that with cq, certian things were added to make things easier when buying and selling, and for corporation management.The thing is, that before cq, those things were not difficult to do. Thats one of the problems that I have with deadlines, It basically forces a company to either release an unfinished product, or push back the deadline and end up angering customers. To be perfectly honest, the way eve online is set up, there shouldn't be deadlines for the developers. They should just work on an major update until its has most of the bugs worked out, so that only a minor group of people have problems (don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that they didn't work enough of the bugs out, it just seems that way when you are part of the minority).
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Jerry Pepridge
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Posted - 2011.06.23 05:00:00 -
[430]
herr derrr
my P4 wont run this game
QQQ
whine whine whine _________________________________________________
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Zero GodOfDestruction
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Posted - 2011.06.23 05:04:00 -
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Originally by: Jerry Pepridge herr derrr
my P4 wont run this game
QQQ
whine whine whine
Thanks for prolonging the usefulness of this thread by reducing the times we have to post or bump because of your hate and lack of correct punctuation.
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Zero GodOfDestruction
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Posted - 2011.06.23 05:10:00 -
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Also, if I am whining, and you are whining about whining, what does that make you?
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Zero GodOfDestruction
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Posted - 2011.06.23 05:19:00 -
[433]
"Let one walk alone, committing no sin, with few wishes, like elephants in the forest"
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Ealric Sorden
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Posted - 2011.06.23 05:22:00 -
[434]
Edited by: Ealric Sorden on 23/06/2011 05:22:39 Edited by: Ealric Sorden on 23/06/2011 05:22:21
Originally by: OMGWTFResearch
Space isn't rendering multiple video streams = check Space ins't having to render a very complex scene VERY close to the camera = check
Ya there is a difference.
Like I said, reasons so laughable they didn't even deserve a response...
Three, if memory serves, prerendered videos taking up a very small portion of a wall. Stupidly small resources for a modern cpu or gpu = check.
A static scene with a few ambient light shader effects, some decent textures, and an overall graphical quality on par with a top game from a couple years ago. Nothing a modern cpu or gpu should balk at = check.
A ship rotating in a hangar. Something the game already handled just fine = check.
A poster who clearly has no idea what he/she/it was talking about = check.
Yep, you've got all the checks down for a trolling post. Congrats.
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Akemi Mai Yamada
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Posted - 2011.06.23 05:23:00 -
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Edited by: Akemi Mai Yamada on 23/06/2011 05:25:16 Yeah, CPU usage outside the Station: 8%-11%. Station with CQ: Skyrocketing to 45%-55% :/ I wrote a bug ticket about that and i got that answer:
Hello!
After i docked at a station eve-online¦s cpu usage quadruples. It seems that the new CQ is the cause of that :/
// Hello,
Thank you for reporting the problem, but this is not a bug, the CPU usage will increase because there is a large environment to be rendered that is more graphics/cpu intensive then being out in space, and not in a large fleet.
Adjusting the graphics settings, as well as other options, will allow you to change how much CPU usage goes up.
Some examples are "Interior Effects, LOD Quality. etc"
Regards //BH Toireann
D:
Also the cpus fan is going crazy.. Even Crysis, who looks way better, isnt using that much CPU Power :/
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OMGWTFResearch
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Posted - 2011.06.23 05:34:00 -
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Originally by: Ealric Sorden Edited by: Ealric Sorden on 23/06/2011 05:22:39 Edited by: Ealric Sorden on 23/06/2011 05:22:21
Originally by: OMGWTFResearch
Space isn't rendering multiple video streams = check Space ins't having to render a very complex scene VERY close to the camera = check
Ya there is a difference.
Like I said, reasons so laughable they didn't even deserve a response...
Three, if memory serves, prerendered videos taking up a very small portion of a wall. Stupidly small resources for a modern cpu or gpu = check.
A static scene with a few ambient light shader effects, some decent textures, and an overall graphical quality on par with a top game from a couple years ago. Nothing a modern cpu or gpu should balk at = check.
A ship rotating in a hangar. Something the game already handled just fine = check.
A poster who clearly has no idea what he/she/it was talking about = check.
Yep, you've got all the checks down for a trolling post. Congrats.
Yet you responded
Cry & complain all you want but it isn't going back to the days of spin the ship on an Intel Atom 1 netbook. Clean your computer!
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P I Joe
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Posted - 2011.06.23 05:37:00 -
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OK I'm not currently involved in hardware much so this is a genuine question which kinda relates to OP.
Am I wrong to think that a PC should be designed so that even if the CPU runs at 100% solidly it should remain under the max operating chip temp? ie Nothing software should do should be able to break the hardware? When I did used to pay more attention to hardware ( a long time ago lol ) we used to put a computer together, run some stress inducing software and monitor temps.
Doesn't that happen now?
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Loki Vengeance
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Posted - 2011.06.23 05:40:00 -
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Originally by: P I Joe OK I'm not currently involved in hardware much so this is a genuine question which kinda relates to OP.
Am I wrong to think that a PC should be designed so that even if the CPU runs at 100% solidly it should remain under the max operating chip temp? ie Nothing software should do should be able to break the hardware? When I did used to pay more attention to hardware ( a long time ago lol ) we used to put a computer together, run some stress inducing software and monitor temps.
Doesn't that happen now?
Yes it should be able to run at max without hitting the max allowable operating temperature.
No, most computers these days aren't tested like that anymore. The margins are so tiny that it'd be impossible to make a profit if anyone took the time to test properly like they used to do. When you're paying $400 for the hardware, $100 for the OS, and trying to squeeze $600 out of the customer, there's not a whole lot of time left after ordering, assembling, and installing the OS and drivers.
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Zachstar
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Posted - 2011.06.23 06:05:00 -
[439]
Originally by: P I Joe OK I'm not currently involved in hardware much so this is a genuine question which kinda relates to OP.
Am I wrong to think that a PC should be designed so that even if the CPU runs at 100% solidly it should remain under the max operating chip temp? ie Nothing software should do should be able to break the hardware? When I did used to pay more attention to hardware ( a long time ago lol ) we used to put a computer together, run some stress inducing software and monitor temps.
Doesn't that happen now?
PC OEMs would (And likely have been) Sued by their customers if they are not designed to handle the max TDP of its components.
However it needs to be made clear that is with a clean computer in an area where airflow isn't being constrained (Many idiots were complaining of Xbox 360s overheating when they were running them in a pile of clothes.) Not filled with dust.
TDP is in watts. You have to dissipate those watts or the heat buildup is measured in Celsius.
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Max Gades
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Posted - 2011.06.23 07:06:00 -
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Edited by: Max Gades on 23/06/2011 07:07:16 Needless to say from reading and so on and so forth CQ is Jacking up a bunch of good, well set up rigs that really shouldnt be having a issue. I honestly find the lack of even 1 dev comment on this topic to be very disturbing in the fact they could possably themself might not have a answer for some of these problem and are trying to come up with solution or a bunch of hot fix's that will creat more problems. might i cast everyones minds to last october. Needless to say a section of the playerbase is reaching out to the dev's for answers and they are either not taking this post seriously or they dont care or dont want to answer. Like i've said in another posting I dont care much for CQ given the option to have a blank hanger with a ship in the middle of it might be one way to keep part of the playerbase from frying their computers or in all losing them as their costumer oh and part of your paycheck there CCP... wait thats what the $60 eye glass things is for...
Bump to the OP. Keep going till a dev post. They honestly need to give some of the playerbase over here some attention. I'll post my issue after i run out of ideas myself.
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Paula Moofbite
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.23 07:53:00 -
[441]
After crashing my laptop and having to reboot, it now beeps at me indicating a GPU error (I believe, 1 long, 2 short beeps). Graphics card seems goosed now - "Competence on the battle field is a myth. The side which screws up next to last wins, it's as simple as that."
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Zero GodOfDestruction
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Posted - 2011.06.23 07:54:00 -
[442]
bump
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Amanda Lookingglass
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Posted - 2011.06.23 08:05:00 -
[443]
Bump, and a side note 5 accounts subscription cancelled.... |
Dograzor
The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2011.06.23 09:12:00 -
[444]
Any update on this? -
"We don't gank, we just apply force in a disproportionate manner during an uneven tactical combat situation to maximize revenue and increase shareholder value" |
Constantine Saberinni
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Posted - 2011.06.23 09:32:00 -
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Edited by: Constantine Saberinni on 23/06/2011 09:33:50 Loki et al,
Im sorry but I find your argument of the software isnt an issue and that its our cooling thats inadequate more than a little condescending and patronising.
Whilst the logic is correct if (in my case) my standard and unmodded GTX 460 is being pushed to the point of thermal shutdown then clearly its cooling is inadequate, should we really expect a relatively small environment and one avator to push a card to this limit?
Yes, the previous poster is correct in saying that code cant damage hardware in itself but if the volume and complexity of that code thats dumped on the GPU pushes it so hard that it shuts down this does have the potential to cause problems. You would hope that the drivers allow sufficient safety margin at the point of shutdown to protect the card but repeated stressing to this point cant be good for the life of the card.
This is not an imaginary problem. CQ is pushing my card to the point of thermal shutdown whereas before it was fine (docked did cause the card fan to speed up a little but nothing this huge). Should I be expected to watercool my GPU or run a $1000 card JUST to be able to show one avatar wandering around a room? If you say no then surely CCP (and those saying the problem doenst exist) have to accept that the coding is flawed?
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Zero GodOfDestruction
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Posted - 2011.06.23 11:43:00 -
[446]
Bump!
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Julliette Libertine
Gallente The Greek Connection
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Posted - 2011.06.23 11:44:00 -
[447]
i got same problem but with the gpu usage
before incarna the gpu usage was not over 50% and the temperature was max 55c
after incarna the temp got to 65c and the gpu usage on CQ is stable to 90% a lot of ppl got the same problem on station
if we turn off CQ the gpu usage fall down to 40-50% and the temperature too...the only thing we asking is here
CCP check the graph on station do something to fix this issue So long and thanks for all the fish. |
Zero GodOfDestruction
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Posted - 2011.06.23 12:02:00 -
[448]
So, the mods are about, but still ignoring the growing stack of issues here. Big surprise.
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Zero GodOfDestruction
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Posted - 2011.06.23 12:24:00 -
[449]
Back to the top of the forums, I say.
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Rebel Boss
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Posted - 2011.06.23 12:26:00 -
[450]
Originally by: Firid Soulbane Even though you have a valid argument it seems like you are the one that wants attention.
i finaly investigated the problem with my PC, the truth is my powersource had a meltdown, reasons? well i found all kind of species in my pc and they were not amar, caldari, jove... All kind of new alien life forms were in my system :D, all temps cpu, gpu, mb, hdds, where over 60degree celtious for more than 2 months, by my logs, and the drop that broke the camel was that my cooler of my power source was jamed :D... now i buyd a new decent source and all are back to normal like the first day... So for my was probably a coincidence like i stated :P keep up the good work and be xenofob with your system cuz if not you all will be colonized :D CYA
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