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Celistin
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Posted - 2011.05.10 18:37:00 -
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Originally by: maya ibuki2
Originally by: Cynthia Ysolde this is awesome, good job ccp
notice all the people complaining are in the nc
hey nc, ha ha
and unsurprisingly, the people supporting it are those it doesnt effect.
^^
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Celistin
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Posted - 2011.05.10 18:52:00 -
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Originally by: Major Stallion Does anyone else find it awesome how the majority of people chiming in about how bad this is is the NC/Goons/TEST bloc? :D
You mean kinda how awesome it is that most of the people going on about how great this is aren't affected by the changes?
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Celistin
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Posted - 2011.05.10 21:18:00 -
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The biggest thing for me is keeping myself supplied.
I don't have a jump freighter and cyno alt. I have buy orders in jita for ship modules and I shuttle them up to nullsec so I can fit my ships.
The "l33t" pvp corps (lol @ PL) will roam around and pick off random solos because there are less JBs and the people who live there will have a harder time forming a counter fleet and then catching the l33t doodz.
This really looks like less gang vs gang pvp and more 20v2 ganking.
Which ultimately is all the leeters who don't own any space really want. They come out to nullsec, gank a couple miners and ratters and run away by the time a counter fleet is formed. It makes their KB look special but there isn't much actual "pvp" going on.
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Celistin
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Posted - 2011.05.10 21:44:00 -
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Originally by: Rumpelstilski
Originally by: Celistin The biggest thing for me is keeping myself supplied.
I don't have a jump freighter and cyno alt. I have buy orders in jita for ship modules and I shuttle them up to nullsec so I can fit my ships.
Join a player owned corporation, cooperate, help them with their logistic, be a useful and good member of your chosen spaceship society and there will be people with caps and cynos and whatnot to help you.
That's the point of a MULTIplayer game
no ****? other people play this game?
I love how the biggest counter to the NC crying is from the one alliance in this game that will benefit the most from this nerf.
Your opinion means **** all when you own **** for space, run level 4s in highsec for income, and are capable of dropping 150 man supercap fleets.
Ultimately I dont care, I'm gonna keep doing what I gotta do to play. I was shuttling mods and implants in a warpstabbed kestrel when I moved to nullsec, now I can fly transports, so I'll be ok.
I can guarantee there wont be more gang on gang pvp though.
I actually active rat for income and I fleet up for home defense so I know what happens when the l33t dudes like PL and merciless come out.
They drop a bunch of stragglers / miners / ratters then leave off to some other area of space to do it some more. It is really rare when we get an actual gang vs gang fight that isnt a sov fight.
What will happen now when we fleet up is that a handful of pilots will get killed trying to meet up with the fleet and when we finally get formed up we wont be able to catch the enemy fleet cause they are 15 jumps ahead of us now.
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Celistin
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Posted - 2011.05.10 22:33:00 -
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Edited by: Celistin on 10/05/2011 22:34:24
Originally by: Alissa Solette
Originally by: Celistin The "l33t" pvp corps (lol @ PL) will roam around and pick off random solos because there are less JBs and the people who live there will have a harder time forming a counter fleet and then catching the l33t doodz.
This really looks like less gang vs gang pvp and more 20v2 ganking.
Which ultimately is all the leeters who don't own any space really want. They come out to nullsec, gank a couple miners and ratters and run away by the time a counter fleet is formed. It makes their KB look special but there isn't much actual "pvp" going on.
Firstly, u mad?
Secondly, one of the main things that makes "good" people "good" in EVE is the fact that they are in the right place at the right time (or incidentally no longer there when then 5000 man drake blob turns up). If you're fighting fair then you're doing it wrong (or have scrub FCs/leadership).
If you want to fight fairly and on "even terms" then grab 50 or 100 dudes from your alliance, write up some rules and knock yourself out to your hearts content.
But EVE is not about fighting fairly. It's about being able to maneuver oneself into a position where one has an advantage and higher chance to reach the objective then your opponent has (be this when trading on the market, ratting, plexing or invading/defending space and so on). This can include a multitude of tactics and strategies - that is what makes the game fun and interesting.
I think you're getting EVE mixed up with WOW or Counter Strike where you take an equal number of dudes and let them slog it out and see who presses the right buttons faster/better. EVE does not have a hugely skill-intensive combat system (especially not in large fleets) so basically sitting there with two equally strong gangs and pressing F1-F8 is pretty damn boring after a very short time.
What makes the game fun is that you can do unexpected things (tactically) or use interesting strategies to defeat your enemies (such as blockades, propaganda etc.)
So if you're sad because you got killed by 20 dudes then maybe stop asking yourself "why is this game so unfair?" and better ask "how can i prevent this from happening in the future and maybe even get revenge on the ebil gankers?"
Or you could cry some more.
So basically you agree with me?
There will be more 20v1 ganking because more people are stuck out in the open but not more gang vs gang. because as you put it, you need to always have the advantage.
CCP wants more pvp but all this does is create more opportunity for gangs of T2s to kill industrials. Which is not pvp.
Or maybe that is PvP to you.
Which means "ur mad bro" and you should "stop crying" or how ever it is you 16 yr olds put it.
I don't personally care because I rarely get caught by gatecamps.
But this will not create more pvp. I'm sorry if you have padding your KB with lol travel fit kills confused with pvp.
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Celistin
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Posted - 2011.05.10 22:39:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Celistin The "l33t" pvp corps (lol @ PL) will roam around and pick off random solos because there are less JBs and the people who live there will have a harder time forming a counter fleet and then catching the l33t doodz.
This really looks like less gang vs gang pvp and more 20v2 ganking.
Which ultimately is all the leeters who don't own any space really want. They come out to nullsec, gank a couple miners and ratters and run away by the time a counter fleet is formed. It makes their KB look special but there isn't much actual "pvp" going on.
"fair fights"?
what is this, WoW battlegrounds??
Who ****ing said fair fights? I know how the **** works.
The point is that 90% of the people happy about this change do nothing but roam around looking for solos to make their KB look good. There isn't a whole lot of actual player versus player.
So all this does is make it harder for people who hold sov to defend their space and easier for people who have no sov to get gank kills.
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