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Mortania
Minmatar No Compromise Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.04.29 16:28:00 -
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Completely disagree.
I don't believe the deviant art contestant pictures are any more awesome than what we already have. Several of the ships do a terrible job of emulating the racial design of ships.
Also, there are many awesome ships in EVE already. Nearly all Minmatar and Gallente ships, many of the Amarr and even some of the Caldari ships are all terrific.
I think you must be confusing your personal aesthetic sense with universal truth.
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Mortania
Minmatar No Compromise Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.04.29 19:36:00 -
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Originally by: Jennifer Starling Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 29/04/2011 19:13:38
Originally by: Wolfric Draksmile But I am so sad to see all these ships ridiculously ugly. Why not picking in these contest to relook al the ugly ships???
EVE is not only supposed to be a dark, harsh and cruel place but also an ugly and asymmetrical place ..
I concur. Minmatar ships are beautiful in their harsh junkheap look. They are supposed to feel industrial and harsh. I find the Maelstrom, Loki and even the Thrasher to some extent to be "ugly" because they break away from that a bit too much. They are too polished.
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Mortania
Minmatar No Compromise Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.04.29 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: Wolfric Draksmile
- Vikkings had Drakkars, Greeks Trirems, The Spitfire, The Messershmitt 109, The Mustang P51, The B2, The F22, all for War but Beautiful...
- A Nimitz class aircraft carrier is not so ugly...
All of these ships have aero/aquadynamic requirements. The underside of a Nimitz is shapely and flow optimized. The top, where it does matter isn't. It's functional as the needs required and gets "ugly".
Spaceships don't have those needs, they can be purely functional. Think Borg cubes.
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Mortania
Minmatar No Compromise Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.04.29 22:06:00 -
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Nah, just make sure the overall thrust is down the +z axis and you're fine. Anything not symmetrical just needs to account for that fact.
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Mortania
Minmatar No Compromise Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.04.29 23:59:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Jacob Stov Asymmetric designs are inefficient. There is no drag in space, but there is inertia. Asymetric ships have to divert propulsion power to keep them flying in a streight line. Woohoo ! I just discovered why Caldari ships are so f+++ slow ! Half of the engine power goes to the manouvering thrusters !
For the record, there are no symmetric ships in EVE, so if we want to include that criterion, all of them have to be replaced.
Hmm, just thinking about this, aren't the shuttles symmetrical?
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Mortania
Minmatar No Compromise Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.04.30 00:55:00 -
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Originally by: Maverick2011
Originally by: Mortania Completely disagree.
I don't believe the deviant art contestant pictures are any more awesome than what we already have. Several of the ships do a terrible job of emulating the racial design of ships.
Also, there are many awesome ships in EVE already. Nearly all Minmatar and Gallente ships, many of the Amarr and even some of the Caldari ships are all terrific.
I think you must be confusing your personal aesthetic sense with universal truth.
And you have the universal truth with you of course. Yea, most EVE ships look horrible,like piece of trash flying in space, see only a few of caldari and minmatar ships, they look like deformed insects or pieces of metal combined in a frankenstein style.
I would have thought that my very mentioning of the idea that opinion doesn't = truth would have been enough, normally. But, I didn't leave it at that, I used "I don't believe" and "I think" which are very much opinion statements.
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Mortania
Minmatar No Compromise Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.04.30 00:58:00 -
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Edited by: Mortania on 30/04/2011 00:59:04
Originally by: Tippia
In space, however, vertical symmetry is just as important as horizontal symmetry, and since Up/Down" symmetry obviously isn't a problem for the EVE ships, there's no reason why Left/Right-symmetry could be an issue either (yes, yes: up, down, left and right don't really make sense either, but we're looking at the local reference frame of ships that have an obvious up-directioną so there!). The ship designers of EVE can apparently generate thrust that balances out the (perceptually) wildly different upper and lower parts of the ship, so balancing out the left and right side as well is just more of the sameą
Radially symmetric would make for a limited palette don't you think?
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Mortania
Minmatar No Compromise Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.04.30 01:24:00 -
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Seriously! Where are the beautiful spacefaring craft?
Just like in real life!
Gorgeous! (and symmetrical!)
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Mortania
Minmatar No Compromise Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.04.30 04:15:00 -
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Originally by: Val'Dore
Now, demonstrate what happens when you put an MWD on that.
Assuming you have engineers who do maths beforehand, it goes faster in the opposite direction of the thrust provided by the MWD. (This assumes it was built with the structure sufficient to absorb the thrust from the MWD.)
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Mortania
Minmatar No Compromise Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.04.30 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: Ranger 1
1: This is not symmetrical. 2: Many people would consider this ugly. 3: Stations aren't being discussed, ships are. 4: Spacecraft do exist currently, and most that will never enter atmosphere are far from symmetrical. 5: Designing a symmetrical ship for deep space use would often be a waste of resources and materials. 6: Even vessels designed for terrestrial (or in this example, aquatic) use are asymmetrical. An example would be the fast and maneuverable Outrigger.
You missed the hidden <sarcasm> flag.
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Mortania
Minmatar No Compromise Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.05.02 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: Generals4
Almost all the gallente frigs... no wait almost all their ships actually.
If you're including the Tristan in this, then I think you're insane.
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