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okst666
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Posted - 2011.03.19 09:44:00 -
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Edited by: okst666 on 19/03/2011 09:45:58 Murini has incursion today.
Ok, I am not interrested in participating, but I thought there would be cool gfx-effects. Corpmate told me, that I have to activate "post processing" in the options to see them. Allright...I set postprocessing to low and everything is green now. For the price of 80% performance. Without postprocessing I have about 100-120 fps @ 2900*1024 (fixed window)
With postprocessing the fps count goes under 20! :(
What can I do to have all the nice effects AND good performance.
System is AMD X2 550, 4GB RAM, nVidia 240GT on Windows7 32Bit.
I cannot believe that a simple shader effect (make everything 50%green overlay) eats up so much performance!
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Jack bubu
Trans-Solar Works
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Posted - 2011.03.19 10:44:00 -
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Originally by: okst666 Edited by: okst666 on 19/03/2011 09:49:51 Murini has incursion today.
Ok, I am not interrested in participating, but I thought there would be cool gfx-effects. Corpmate told me, that I have to activate "post processing" in the options to see them. Allright...I set postprocessing to low and everything is green now. For the price of 80% performance. Without postprocessing I have about 100-120 fps @ 2900*1024 (fixed window)
With postprocessing the fps count goes under 20! :(
What can I do to have all the nice effects AND good performance.
System is AMD X2 550, 4GB RAM, nVidia 240GTS on Windows7 32Bit.
I cannot believe that a simple shader effect (make everything 50%green overlay) eats up so much performance!
Having a terrible gfx card might has something to do with it
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okst666
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Posted - 2011.03.19 11:02:00 -
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But the gfx card is fine without that effect.
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AterraX
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.03.19 11:05:00 -
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Originally by: okst666 But the gfx card is fine without that effect.
like stated, it because your GPU dosn't have the needed horsepower. ____________________________________________________________________________________________________ Fact of EVE forums: They will always come an anounomys alt-toon and question someones character... |
Baneken
Gallente The New Knighthood Apocalypse Now.
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Posted - 2011.03.19 11:06:00 -
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Originally by: Jack bubu
Originally by: okst666
System is AMD X2 550, 4GB RAM, nVidia 240GTS on Windows7 32Bit.
I cannot believe that a simple shader effect (make everything 50%green overlay) eats up so much performance!
Having a terrible gfx card might has something to do with it
This, I have Athlon 64 6400+ 2x core (3.2mhz) and GF8800 (512mb), 64bit vista with 3 gigs of ram and EVE runs like a charm and my rig is like 3-4 years old by now (my system bios says 2007 for latest update, so yeah). Only thing I'm running out is my HD-space.
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okst666
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Posted - 2011.03.19 11:19:00 -
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Edited by: okst666 on 19/03/2011 11:23:49 Edited by: okst666 on 19/03/2011 11:19:59
Originally by: AterraX
Originally by: okst666 But the gfx card is fine without that effect.
like stated, it because your GPU dosn't have the needed horsepower.
And which one would you recommend for my system? I do not think I have to buy the expensive top notch state of the art gfx-card for a directX9 game.
edit: its a 240GT not GTS (whatever the difference may be). Internet says it was a pretty good card in its days.
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AterraX
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.03.19 11:32:00 -
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Edited by: AterraX on 19/03/2011 11:32:02
Originally by: okst666 Edited by: okst666 on 19/03/2011 11:23:49 Edited by: okst666 on 19/03/2011 11:19:59
Originally by: AterraX
Originally by: okst666 But the gfx card is fine without that effect.
like stated, it because your GPU dosn't have the needed horsepower.
And which one would you recommend for my system? I do not think I have to buy the expensive top notch state of the art gfx-card for a directX9 game.
edit: its a 240GT not GTS (whatever the difference may be). Internet says it was a pretty good card in its days.
The 240 was, even at launch, and has always been a low-range card: http://www.anandtech.com/show/2906
What is your bugdet?
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okst666
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Posted - 2011.03.19 11:35:00 -
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budget...100-150 Euros (~150-215US$) ?!
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AterraX
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.03.19 11:40:00 -
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Originally by: okst666 budget...100-150 Euros (~150-215US$) ?!
Something like this would be suitable then:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-068-GI&groupid=701&catid=1914&subcat=1830 ____________________________________________________________________________________________________ Fact of EVE forums: They will always come an anounomys alt-toon and question someones character... |
AterraX
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.03.19 11:42:00 -
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Originally by: AterraX
Originally by: okst666 budget...100-150 Euros (~150-215US$) ?!
Something like this would be suitable then:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-068-GI&groupid=701&catid=1914&subcat=1830
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Added review: http://www.anandtech.com/show/3809/nvidias-geforce-gtx-460-the-200-king/6 ____________________________________________________________________________________________________ Fact of EVE forums: They will always come an anounomys alt-toon and question someones character... |
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CCP Spitfire
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.03.19 11:43:00 -
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Moved from 'EVE General Discussion'.
Spitfire Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online |
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okst666
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Posted - 2011.03.19 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: AterraX
Originally by: AterraX
Originally by: okst666 budget...100-150 Euros (~150-215US$) ?!
Something like this would be suitable then:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-068-GI&groupid=701&catid=1914&subcat=1830
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Added review: http://www.anandtech.com/show/3809/nvidias-geforce-gtx-460-the-200-king/6
Ok, Thank You! I will look for this card (saw it on amazon for 160Ç).. Have to check if my PC has enough Powergrid :D. I am not sure if my pc has those 2 power connectors for that card.
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Lady Go Diveher
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Posted - 2011.03.19 12:13:00 -
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As an FYI, the graphics effect isn't a 'simple green overlay'- it looks this way because your card is failing to draw it.
The effect is basically "light rays" coming through space, in a similar way that shafts of light break through clouds.
In asteroid belts near the sun, it's really quite nice.
It looks quite underwhelming in screenshots, but works well in fluid motion.
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ivar R'dhak
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.03.19 13:24:00 -
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Edited by: ivar R''dhak on 19/03/2011 13:35:59 Was going to recommend the 450 instead, but the 460 seems to be in the same ballpark power-consumption wise. So if you have a halfway competent 350W+ PSU you should be ok with the current rig.
Though I¦m not so sure as your rig looks like one of them prebuilt "easter egg" systems with OZOM processor power while everything else is crap. If that is indeed the case and you have some crappy PSU in there(google it) then get yourself a 450 AND a quality PSU for around 50Ç. Should still be in your budget. ______________ Mal-¦Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-`Big damn heroes, sir.` Mal-¦Aint we just.¦ |
Baneken
Gallente The New Knighthood Apocalypse Now.
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Posted - 2011.03.19 18:36:00 -
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Well any PCU has it's peak power sticker on it's side, open the covers and take a look.
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okst666
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Posted - 2011.03.26 19:20:00 -
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Hi, sorry to bring this up again, but I just received that fanfest offer from evga.
So which one is the better
the GTX450 the GTX460 SE or the GTX550 Ti FPB
? I know that the specs are on the website, but I really do not understand them.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.03.26 21:15:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 26/03/2011 21:24:55
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the GTX450 - you mean 450 GTS, maybe ? newegg (130$), overclocked ~5% from reference value, call it 630 GFLOPs ; you get ~4.85 GFLOPs/$ if that's the price
or the GTX550 Ti FPB - newegg (150$), overclocked ~6% from reference values, call it 730 GFLOPs ; you get ~4.86 GFLOPs/$ if that's the price
the GTX460 SE - newegg (220$), overclocked ~17% from reference values, call it 875 GFLOPs ; you get ~3.37 GFLOPs/$ if that's the price ___
P.S. Contrast with...
GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 460 newegg (190$), overclocked ~6% from reference values, call it 960 GFLOPs ; you get 5.05 GFLOPs/$ for that price
or
GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 560 Ti newegg (245$), overclocked ~9.5% from reference values, call it 1380 GFLOPs ; you get 5.63 GFLOPs/$ for that price
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okst666
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Posted - 2011.03.26 21:22:00 -
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ok..so as far as I understand this GFLOBS/$ equation, the GTX460 (without SE) is the best card I can buy.
second best is the GTX460 with SE.
right?
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.03.26 21:26:00 -
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See edit, comparing to other cards
Also, some people don't really care about performance/price ratio, and just want max performance. _
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okst666
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Posted - 2011.03.26 23:29:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 26/03/2011 22:20:20
See edit, comparing to other cards
Also, some people don't really care about performance/price ratio, and just want max performance.
The GTX460 SE is the absolute WORST buy of them all IMO. I would say the 560 Ti is the best one you can buy if you care about either ratio or raw power, since it wins out in both... if you can afford it, at 245$. If you want cheapness with still-decent p/p ratio though, go with the 130$ 450 GTS.
You could go ATI, but since CCP goes so gaga about NVIDIA, one could expect much better support for it... so, your choice.
P.S. Assuming the listed prices are correct, no idea what the actual prices for the promotion are. Can you list ACTUAL prices you get through the promotion ? From what I understand, it doesn't apply to all shops, but just select EVGA shops, and I have absolutely no idea what shops those might be and how much they charge now (so I can calculate the discounted price).
Well, I pay in euros..and I will just order the 460 around easter. I thought the deal with evga would be cool - but they only offer the SE edition. The price does not really matter (within the budget - I know I can order a PC resembled by NASA for weather forecasts) all I want is to be on the safe side for that "investion"..I do not want to have to post about bad graphics performance in 2 month again and get told that my gfx card is crap like my 240 is (wich does fine in any other game I play).
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