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Cearain
Caldari The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2011.03.02 03:22:00 -
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Originally by: Marconus Orion
Originally by: The Mittani à. the war against drooling hisec missionrunners, lowsec k/d pirates, and 'elite pvp' nullsec nonsovholders is only beginning; it is CSM time, and the current crop of idiots is looking to ruin everything we know about sovereign space despite having never lived there themselves.We are now uniting with our allies (and even our nominal foes) to ensure that the Nullsec Bloc seizes control over the CSM, Jump Bridges aren't removed from the game, and that CCP is forced to get a clueàà. In this past year, CCP claims they have begun to 'listen' to the CSM, and what a time to listen. Most major nullsec alliances gave up on the CSM ages ago, and this year-long term is full of nobodies and carebears.
Did you write this?
Did you?
Whether you wrote it or not it is interesting what this person said. After the nullsec alliances gave up on the CSM, CCP started to listen. Food for thought isnÆt it?
Perhaps, negotiating with people in a game is a bit of a different animal than negotiating with professionals about their multimillion dollar company. I mean is it surprising that folks at ccp did not jump when the null sec alliance leaders were ruling the roost of csm?
Moreover, whoever said, what was attributed to you, also gave no indication that they understood *why* CCP is beginning to listen to the CSM. I think more than a few people have a clue about what brought that on.
But then we read this:
Originally by: The Mittani
Originally by: iP0D
Honest question though. ....So, how exactly are you going to approach CCP when it is time to sit down at the table, ....
i'm going to collect intelligence, make some calls and probably wing it from there. how hostile ccp will be may depend on the composition of the CSM; the best approach may be a subtle one, outside the formal process rather than one that involves meeting minutes. it might be best done within a formal process but i doubt itàone of the easiest fixes and one that seems extremely obvious to me is just to get the whole csm on skype/conference ....
Yeah do away with formal meeting minutes and just talk on skype. I have to say, I donÆt think you understood why ccp decided to start listening to the csm. I have a hunch you need to do some thinking or you will be very easy for ccp to ignore. I also think you would be well served to stop posting for your campaign and just tell your goons to shut up and vote for you. Remember, no democracy just do what daddy tells you.
IÆm sorry if this is insulting to goon players but they seem to be your view. You apparently think your alliance will vote like you tell them and you donÆt even need to explain a thing about what direction you think the game should go.
Originally by: Two Shots
The man can snap his fingers and say "Hey guys, this thing over here sounds like it might be fun; go do it if you feel like it," and thereby consistently summon up a fleet of a thousand people eager to go die horribly. à.
Ah yeah lets all believe that will work fine with CCP. Unfortunately history tells a different story. Null sec leaders who are used to snapping their fingers and having a thousand lemmings jump never accomplished much with csm. It was only when the ôcurrent crop of idiotsö took office that CCP started listening.
Originally by: The Mittani What I can deliver is me being a ruthless, manipulative bastard. And you need that...
Actually I don't, nor does csm or ccp. Thanks, but no thanks.
As for me IÆm with one of ôthe current crop of idiotsö who said
Originally by: Mynxee It will be interesting to see how CSM6's take on "stakeholder" status shapes up after they take office and how they choose to leverage it...or not.
-Cearain
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Cearain
Caldari The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2011.03.02 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: Karadion Edited by: Karadion on 02/03/2011 17:11:51 Goonswarm will FOLLOW THE LEADER in a similar fashion that all Scientologist members follow David Miscavige
Originally by: Karadion That's why we have squads where people can do whatever they want to do. We don't even have call to arms like alot of alliances do because participation is voluntary and encouraged. Goons have choices? You don't say!
Do what you want to do, as long as what you want to do is follow the leader.
ItÆs one thing to follow an fc in a combat situation or a leader on a strategic level. That is agreed. But being told how to vote about the direction of a spaceship game?
I don't think goons are oppressed. No one forces them to do this. It is just amazing to me how many people are so eager to fill that submissive role for some other individual's gain. We shall see how the votes come in.
CCP creates a game where you are immortal and can be whatever you want in this science fiction universe. Result: Thousands of people decide they would like to be storm troopers ruled by a self-described ruthless manipulative metrosexual bastard. Not only in-game but even meta-game.
I can't say I understand it, but it is interesting.
-Cearain
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Cearain
Caldari The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2011.03.04 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: The Mittani Edited by: The Mittani on 04/03/2011 08:47:35
Originally by: Harold Hammerstein The Mittani has my vote.
Question for you Mittani - who would you like to see on the CSM with you?
In sum, I'm not too worried about it. I think that I'll be able to work with just about anyone, especially since my campaign message has essentially been agreed to by just about every other candidate w/r/t the CSM needing to be a more powerful, effective advocate and for the backlog to be addressed. I'm saying the sky is blue, it's hard to argue with that.
I read the subject of your message as saying the other candidates are lying to the players. Has the message changed? Or do the current crop of candidates agree that they are lying to the players? Or is there some other ôtheyö that is doing the lying?
Do you think anyone running again from csm 6 will win? If so how do you think they will feel about you calling them ôthe current crop of idiotsö?
Do you think you will be able to manipulate them like your goons who -you claim - would give you all of their votes if you didnÆt allow vile rat to run?
-Cearain
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Cearain
Caldari The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2011.03.04 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: OhThis GuyAgain
Originally by: Cearain Do you think anyone running again from csm 6 will win?
Huh?
Thank you. I have edited the original post. -Cearain
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Cearain
Caldari The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2011.03.07 15:34:00 -
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Not one of the links was a proposal by Trebor. Interestingly enough Trebor allows *the players* to make the proposals and then he works to get ccp to implement *the players* proposals.
That whole assembly hall forum you know. Has the Mittani ever even visited it?
ItÆs very interesting that the only csm member that ever tried to measure how much *players* want certain proposals is singled out for ridicule by The Mittani. Of course, The MittaniÆs campaign depends on players being idiots so anyone who actually promotes what players want must also be an idiot.
-Cearain
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