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CCP StevieSG
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Posted - 2011.01.18 16:25:00 -
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EVE Online: Incursion 1.1.0 has been deployed. EVE Online Incursion is being released in three parts.
This is the third and final installment and will include the Character Creator and much more.
Full details of the character creator can be found in CCP Lopis Blog. Please check the Incursion 1.1.0 patch notes for full details of this release.
This thread is for general feedback on the patch. For issues please see this thread.
StevieSG EVE Community Team CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact Us
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Winterbliss
Militaris Industries
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Posted - 2011.01.18 16:30:00 -
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What happened to the release of the NeoCom and Contracts betas?
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Imiarr Timshae
Caldari Funny Men In Funny Hats
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Posted - 2011.01.18 16:34:00 -
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Edited by: Imiarr Timshae on 18/01/2011 16:45:17
Entire Character Creation System looks rushed and generally unpolished
Character Creation :
1. No Black Hair.
2. COLOSSAL lack of clothing. (Are we going to have to pay real money to look good? Nice little earner CCP.) Do you want this shirt or.... this shirt?
3. Character Creator seems to be a body sculpting utility and little else. Alteration of all body parts is fluid and flawless. Only problem is we HAVE to dress them, thus we HAVE to look awful.
Reccomended : DO NOT UPDATE YOUR CHARACTER - Wait until they fix it (Being released in another two years?) -----
Originally by: GM Horse
Remember kids, both meth and macro use are Really Quite Bad Things.
Originally by: CCP Shadow Tragic smelting accidents.
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Andrea Solaris
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.01.18 16:35:00 -
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Edited by: Andrea Solaris on 18/01/2011 16:35:11 http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1450539
edit: hurray for automatic url parsing.
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Camel Catcher
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Posted - 2011.01.18 16:35:00 -
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Edited by: Camel Catcher on 18/01/2011 16:39:44 Bad standings only overview not working, i see all, affects ships only.
CANNOT REMOVE NEUTRAL PILOTS FROM OVERVIEW.
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Uzii Jay
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Posted - 2011.01.18 16:37:00 -
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Are we stuck with our previous Race/Bloodline/Gender? Because, for every old player to be stuck with one type of face out of a possible 24 is pretty poor. How can we fully appreciate the entirety of the new character creator if we can only use/see a small fraction of it.
Also, why do all Amarr male look old, even with the youngest setting?
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Maaltor
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Posted - 2011.01.18 16:37:00 -
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Well done CCP - you've managed to screw everyone all at the same time in a single update!
Now the character portraits I've known and loved for years are gone, just like that. All of the faces I've attached to characters and personalities of people from all over the world who I've never met but interact with on a daily basis is just gone.
I don't want to deal with all this crap again - the first time round I hit random until I got something vaguely pleasing and stuck with it. Now my OCD demands I recreate my character portraits exactly how they were previously.
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Yumiko Hatori
Caldari Blood Money Dark Angels The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2011.01.18 16:38:00 -
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The clothes are still a bad yoke.......such ugly versions and only a handfull of them, for an MMO this is really a kick into the ass.... The colours of the clothes are also a yoke. Did you never thought about para military clothers or more modern stuff, not such ugly retro 60/70 look... No hoods...ect..ect.. Ugly backgrounds....
It is a slap into the face...
Also no real fullbeard and all the other beards suck as well.
The whole stuff is looking like a bad beta forced to get live to early....
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Iraherag
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Posted - 2011.01.18 16:41:00 -
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I'd advice everyone to postpone their avatar update for as long as possible.
Certainly it can only get better...
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King Pleasure
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Posted - 2011.01.18 16:43:00 -
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Underwhelming to say the least.
No tattoos. No implants/real scaring. And who the duck was in charge of designing those clothes? Hair options are also **** poor.
God, give me the option to go back to my old portrait. At least it was interesting.
Vote NO to PLEX for Remap. |
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AydenKain
Spais Of The Federation
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Posted - 2011.01.18 16:46:00 -
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So how much of that 1+gig download was the character creator it's self? If it was over 500mb for somthing we can use only once.... fail, epic.
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Turelus
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2011.01.18 16:47:00 -
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Black hair on Deteis.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2011.01.18 16:48:00 -
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http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1447992
A lot of hair options we were promised are still missing and not available.
You are still limiting clothing choices by race.
This is just not good enough, CCP. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Yumiko Hatori
Caldari Blood Money Dark Angels The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2011.01.18 16:48:00 -
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Yeah, the whol chare generator looks like an EPIC FAIL....
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zu'gul
Gallente The Good the Bad and the UGLY Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.01.18 16:48:00 -
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hahaha
They are keeping quiet about the UI
Fail
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Zilero
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Posted - 2011.01.18 16:49:00 -
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How about a warning that when you click "Save" in the new portrait generator, that's what you GET.
Seriously, I know the char look is not important at all :P, but when you create a new char you have the option of scrapping it if things are not to your liking after you hit "save".
With old chars that's just not possible and already I hear people complaining that "Gee, I thought I could choose a portrait afterwards" or similar stuff.
CCP, fix it so a warning is displayed when hitting save saying: "Are you SURE this is what you want to look like for the rest of eternity in Eve?"
-zil
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Jack Coutu
Gallente Canada Corps
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Posted - 2011.01.18 16:51:00 -
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I too wish to kill myself because my imaginary portrait does not look how I wish it too.
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John Holland
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Posted - 2011.01.18 16:51:00 -
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Edited by: John Holland on 18/01/2011 16:51:30 The patch notes miss the following fixes: -T2 battleships(atleast Marauders) can now be build in L2/L3 amarr factory outposts(might have been an earlier patch, but nowhere mentioned) -The corporation assets lockdown view filter is also working correctly
Should all bugs that are tagged for fixed in winter 2010 be fixed now as this is the last (planned) incursion patch? If so, I need to reopen a bug report.
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Freelancer117
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Posted - 2011.01.18 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: Maaltor Well done CCP - you've managed to screw everyone all at the same time in a single update!
Now the character portraits I've known and loved for years are gone, just like that. All of the faces I've attached to characters and personalities of people from all over the world who I've never met but interact with on a daily basis is just gone.
I don't want to deal with all this crap again - the first time round I hit random until I got something vaguely pleasing and stuck with it. Now my OCD demands I recreate my character portraits exactly how they were previously.
Dude try to read post by ccp plz next time http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=843
here is your old stuff back http://oldportraits.eveonline.com/
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Palovana
Caldari Inner Fire Inc.
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Posted - 2011.01.18 16:53:00 -
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Originally by: Winterbliss What happened to the release of the NeoCom and Contracts betas?
I read somewhere on this forum (cba to search for it) that there was a potential exploit discovered on SISI so it was removed from the most recent SISI build (and therefore didn't make it to TQ).
Of course, if my post here gets nuked for discussing exploits, that is de facto confirmation by CCP that such an exploit existed.
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Airyn Farscape
Hellfire Arms Service
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Posted - 2011.01.18 16:53:00 -
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I would like to even be able to create my character. I have been waiting on a black screen for 20 minutes. I have a decent graphics card and could play the game just fine, but won't load the Creator. Same for my husband who has an Nvidia 9800, so yeah. Definitely fail :( ~*~ Airyn Farscape ~*~ |
Bladacticus
Caldari SOL Industries
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Posted - 2011.01.18 16:54:00 -
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While I appreciate the potential awesomeness of the character creator, I'm very disappointed. I have two characters. I had hoped to make my main look as close to my original as possible and my less-used char I wanted to really try out all the options. My main used to be Asian looking, but none of the current options will make him look the least bit Asian. My original had long hair, that is no longer an option. You also can't alter the facial expression that much. You can give the guy a frown but you can't give him a sneer or a smile. Just the one bland look.
We've been looking forward to this for months and it's a bit of a downer. Since I've already chosen to do this, I'm REALLY hoping I won't be stuck with this portrait, especially if they make updates.
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Don Lapre
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Posted - 2011.01.18 16:54:00 -
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When you right-click->modify order the cursor no longer defaults to the "new price" field.
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xHjfx
Minmatar The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2011.01.18 16:55:00 -
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The Retriever is looking unusually golden and bright..
Also is there a way to turn off the box surrounding the system name?
And who decided dock option at the bottom was best place on the right click menu? -----
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Doc Fury
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Posted - 2011.01.18 16:55:00 -
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Is there a time limit before we are forced to use the new character creator?
I'd like to wait to use it until it's finished if that is possible.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |
Scythman
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Posted - 2011.01.18 16:56:00 -
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The Char editor , I have a big dimple in my chin and i cant seem to remove it , and i know knowbody in ccp that i have ever seen looks like this (far to much beer) , so how do i make my chin look like normal and not like Victor mature , or am i stuck with whis (if so bring back the old portraits plz)
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Btomo Cur
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Posted - 2011.01.18 16:57:00 -
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The character generator screen is WAY WAY WAY slower than any screen in EVE has ever been before. Why is this character harder to render than, say, a large fleet fight?
I hope this is not an indication of the new direction you're going for graphics, because performance is going to suck.
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Uzii Jay
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Posted - 2011.01.18 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: xHjfx And who decided dock option at the bottom was best place on the right click menu?
QFT Someone who thinks everything about a station is more important than actually docking in it.
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Sergei Alexi
Caldari Pendragon Inc
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Posted - 2011.01.18 16:58:00 -
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In different channel windows, I cannot refresh the new avatars of a good portion of the people that have the silhouette. I redid my avatar, and it cannot be seen by at least one person, if not more. do you have to have remade your avatar in order for you to see other people's new ones? -------------------------------------------------- Regards,
Sergei Alexi Chief Operations Officer, Kaos Corp |
Nexus Aurelia
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Posted - 2011.01.18 16:59:00 -
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Let us change our portrait to one of the 4 upon login, you have such a good character creator but I can't switch between the presets I made for happy, horny, angry and pensive.
Now my character is just horny all the time
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Linus Scorpio
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Posted - 2011.01.18 16:59:00 -
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Originally by: Airyn Farscape I would like to even be able to create my character. I have been waiting on a black screen for 20 minutes. I have a decent graphics card and could play the game just fine, but won't load the Creator. Same for my husband who has an Nvidia 9800, so yeah. Definitely fail :(
Same here, nothing but a black screen
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Rose Nye
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:01:00 -
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Big download too! 1500+ Mb.
Cant comment on the char generator, but judging by these comments, I'll be leaving it until you fix it. Never thought so much would be put into an aspect of the game that will only get used once and mostly ignored due to the games apparent primary feature of FLYING SHIPS AND BLOWING OTHERS UP!
lol
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Maaltor
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: Freelancer117 Dude try to read post by ccp plz next time http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=843
here is your old stuff back http://oldportraits.eveonline.com/
So what? How do I reattach it to my characters genius?
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:03:00 -
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I foresee many tears.
This could have been a great patch CCP.
Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it.
Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive. |
Sniffy McJiggles
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:03:00 -
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Some of the new pics coming out look cool.. As long as I can get mine to look like harry potter iam golden.
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Tocra
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:05:00 -
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Hell whatever i do all mine look like quagmire , What a fail :(
next major improvment to eve (remove all the Jump Bridges) lol ccp never learns.
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Bladacticus
Caldari SOL Industries
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:06:00 -
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Ok people. Let's try to keep this thread under control. Stop whining and try to make CONSTRUCTIVE comments. No one is going to listen to you if you're being a jerk.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:08:00 -
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Originally by: xHjfx The Retriever is looking unusually golden and bright..
Golden retriever. Geddit?
Also I'm taking another opportunity to remind everyone that I, personally, told CCP an easy way they could at least partially mitigate the fallout of this far-too-early release and they completely ignored it. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Seven Hofnine
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:08:00 -
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Originally by: Bladacticus Ok people. Let's try to keep this thread under control. Stop whining and try to make CONSTRUCTIVE comments.
Trolling removed. Zymurgist
+1
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zu'gul
Gallente The Good the Bad and the UGLY Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:08:00 -
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Must be a liberal
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Zero Uptick
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:10:00 -
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I'm unable to modify a buy order although I'm in the same system getting error:
"Your current trade skills level only allows you to issue remote orders with range limited to 50 jumps distance from the bound station"
I docked at the station with the order and could modify it.
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somerandom18
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:10:00 -
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http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/1981/20110118170142.jpg wtf?
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Freelancer117
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: Maaltor
Originally by: Freelancer117 Dude try to read post by ccp plz next time http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=843
here is your old stuff back http://oldportraits.eveonline.com/
So what? How do I reattach it to my characters genius?
oh my 3D MMO's, where are the good old times ?
Gone sowy
oh fyi Walking in Stations this summer 2011, can i have your stuff if you quit ?
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Yumiko Hatori
Caldari Blood Money Dark Angels The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Also I'm taking another opportunity to remind everyone that I, personally, told CCP an easy way they could at least partially mitigate the fallout of this far-too-early release and they completely ignored it.
Yeah, looks like CCP is going to be like SOE, totally ignoring the community and trying to force ppl to like such stuff.
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Tub Chil
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:12:00 -
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No Black hair option for deteis male? wth?
and screen goes black again! I submitted bug report 104592 a month ago and was tolt that "we are aware of this problem" I alt-tab to post and my screen is gray!
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Zero Uptick
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:12:00 -
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Edited by: Zero Uptick on 18/01/2011 17:14:01 Upon launch of the client I can no longer "shift-tab" to move the cursor to the "username" field I have to mouse it.
I take that back, I have to shift-tab or tab a few more times to get the focus. Seems like the focus starts in a different place than yesterday.
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Maaltor
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:13:00 -
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Originally by: Freelancer117 oh my 3D MMO's, where are the good old times ?
Gone sowy
oh fyi Walking in Stations this summer 2011, can i have your stuff if you quit ?
Well isn't that pretty stupid? I just want to fly around in ships, I don't want to have to recreate my character - it was fine how it was the first time. As it is I can't recreate them anyway - the 'things' my character had aren't an option any more
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:13:00 -
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Originally by: Yumiko Hatori Yeah, looks like CCP is going to be like SOE, totally ignoring the community and trying to force ppl to like such stuff.
Well I am going to continue reminding CCP of it until they at least acknowledge it. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Sparkahn
Anshar Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: Zilero How about a warning that when you click "Save" in the new portrait generator, that's what you GET.
Seriously, I know the char look is not important at all :P, but when you create a new char you have the option of scrapping it if things are not to your liking after you hit "save".
With old chars that's just not possible and already I hear people complaining that "Gee, I thought I could choose a portrait afterwards" or similar stuff.
CCP, fix it so a warning is displayed when hitting save saying: "Are you SURE this is what you want to look like for the rest of eternity in Eve?"
-zil
THIS. DAMNIT.
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PTang
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:15:00 -
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Edited by: PTang on 18/01/2011 17:16:04
Originally by: Rose Nye Big download too! 1500+ Mb.
Cant comment on the char generator, but judging by these comments, I'll be leaving it until you fix it. Never thought so much would be put into an aspect of the game that will only get used once and mostly ignored due to the games apparent primary feature of FLYING SHIPS AND BLOWING OTHERS UP!
lol
artist are not programers get back in your hole troll.
Originally by: Bladacticus While I appreciate the potential awesomeness of the character creator, I'm very disappointed. I have two characters. I had hoped to make my main look as close to my original as possible and my less-used char I wanted to really try out all the options. My main used to be Asian looking, but none of the current options will make him look the least bit Asian. My original had long hair, that is no longer an option. You also can't alter the facial expression that much. You can give the guy a frown but you can't give him a sneer or a smile. Just the one bland look.
We've been looking forward to this for months and it's a bit of a downer. Since I've already chosen to do this, I'm REALLY hoping I won't be stuck with this portrait, especially if they make updates.
to be fair...
you set expressions in pose mode, you can pull the lips into a smile or a sneer or what have you.
there seems to be this issue where men just can not have woman's hair cuts. Thus men have shirt hair, or hippy hair. Because I guess it's not mans place to have long black hair. (feels more like a slap in the face CCP)
Also you're character now looks asain, but like a real south west asian that lives in asia, so deal with it, you're no longer a cartoon. if anything I say she's from nepal.
also to toehr people in thread, hoods are in, so there is that at least.
ok now down to the gritty truth.
It's epic fail. Everyone I've shown it to at school (digipen) thinks it look great but is incredibly lame for a mmo character creator. It's more like a person creator that forgot it was in an mmo. I mean these are all 3d artists, so they are blown away at the level of detail, but are just left mostly underwhelmed, I told them more is coming, but knowing that more is coming isn't going to get you more players CCP.
The real tragedy is it wouldn't be very hard to just model a ton of doodads to make it feel more like an mmo. I actually have little issues with the clothing options, it's just the variety is missing.
also why are there 4 portraits? Everyone at my school has been so ****ed off at this, they asked me."can we use all 4?" I told them no, you can't "then why is it there? wtf?"
And then when one pressed save it wasn't the 1 of 4 he wanted, he threw his hands up, and gave up.
finally where did the great UI go? Sure some eve players might be *****y about it but to me non-eve friends that was one of the thigns they really liked the look of.
So there you go, you got a whole college of 3d artist that are wholly unimpressed. yet.. impressed at the quality. same time. The general agreement was the old creator was better for an mmo, and this one is unfinished but impressive for making people.
also no black hair?
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Di Mulle
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: Bladacticus Ok people. Let's try to keep this thread under control. Stop whining and try to make CONSTRUCTIVE comments. No one is going to listen to you if you're being a jerk.
Oh, look, good samaritan.
What is the point in the constructive comments anymore ? Look at the according thread in Test feedback, check tons of comments here, search for any impact they have made onto final version. Report the results please.
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Karia Sur
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:16:00 -
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very disappointed.
Created 1 character on my first account, remember reading that you could tinker about with it for a grace period, so hit save as wanted to see the rest of the updates ingame. Logged out and back in to find that once you hit save your fecked, your stuck with that portrait for ever (unless you intend lining CCPs wallets even more in the future).
2nd account when entering character creator it only has the head visible, no matter what you do/add, you still cant get anything but a head to show.
The only positive thing i have to say for this update/patch is that thank god i didnt have to pay extra for it. Might get better if the Incursions hit okay, but atm, total fail imo.
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Sniffy McJiggles
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: Yumiko Hatori
Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Also I'm taking another opportunity to remind everyone that I, personally, told CCP an easy way they could at least partially mitigate the fallout of this far-too-early release and they completely ignored it.
Yeah, looks like CCP is going to be like SOE, totally ignoring the community and trying to force ppl to like such stuff.
Nobody can let me down as much as SOE has in the last 11 years. NOBODY I SAY!
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zu'gul
Gallente The Good the Bad and the UGLY Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:17:00 -
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The Shortcuts could be better
Just click once on a object and then you can do multiple things to it without mouse clicking again
This is not a hard concept
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:18:00 -
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Edited by: Destination SkillQueue on 18/01/2011 17:21:13
Originally by: somerandom18 http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/1981/20110118170142.jpg wtf?
Known issue. I'm guessing CCP decided, that since this is portraits only phase of the CC, they can get away with all the obvious bugs and the less that satisfactory selection of options. The basic settings are starting to be in place and the potential is there, but it's going to take another expansion cycle to make it actually good.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: Di Mulle What is the point in the constructive comments anymore ? Look at the according thread in Test feedback, check tons of comments here, search for any impact they have made onto final version. Report the results please.
Precisely. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:18:00 -
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Edited by: Mag''s on 18/01/2011 17:19:29
Can you at least acknowledge the need, for allowing people to redo their portraits at least once if not twice?
Edit: Or allow people to wait indefinitely.
Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it.
Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive. |
zu'gul
Gallente The Good the Bad and the UGLY Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:19:00 -
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You wanted feedback
So give us feedback too
WE ARE PAYING YOU TOO
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Scythman
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:20:00 -
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WHAT IS THE POINT OF DIFFERENT PORTRAIS IF YOU CANT USE THEM ! WTF CCP
I now have A char I hate so. Nice move ccp
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Komen
Gallente Flying Target LLC
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:20:00 -
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Okay, I had tried out the new character creator on Sisi before launch, on this computer. It ran smoothly, the animation was fluid, and I had no trouble sculpting face/body (aside from any noticable artistic skills, that is).
Having downloaded Incursion 1.1.0, I'm getting 2 frames per second in the character creator, trying to sculpt anything is impossible as the results of click + drag on any part of body or face only animates 2-3 seconds later, making it difficult to even tell what mouse movement did what.
Logging into Eve itself, I find that the spaceship portion is as usual.
So, yeah, significant framerate drop in the character creator. Something screwy there, and I can't even imagine trying to walk in stations with a few DOZEN of these avatars.
Remaining a silhouette for now.
Fake edit: Oh, OS and hardware spec:
Win7 64 Ultimate AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4200+ 2 Gigs RAM Nvidia GeForce 7800 GTX
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RonPaulReVolt
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:20:00 -
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When i tried to install the update, it told me my client was damaged, then it ran some repair tool, and lasted for about an hour, and at the end it automaticially cancelled itself, i tried opening the client it said it had been damaged and i needed to open the repair tool from the eve game directory, i did that and it cancels automaticially, so i uninstalled the client and now im downloading the 3.7 GB set up again to re in stall the GAME my training que is going to be idling while im at work because this damn update
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anuxamun
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:21:00 -
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the face was constantly flickering from black to light not good for epileptics its given me a migrane lol
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Pookie McPook
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:22:00 -
[63]
For those who are having issues getting to access the character creator I suggest you try pressing ESC and wandering around the options menus. On Sisi this tended to nudge the creator to boot up. I understand this also works on Tranquility now although I am still patching so I can't confirm. Hope this helps avoid too many rage tears. -----
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Bladacticus
Caldari SOL Industries
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:23:00 -
[64]
Originally by: RonPaulReVolt my training que is going to be idling while im at work because this damn update
Did you not think to set a long skill training? That is a standard practice!
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jondon1981
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:27:00 -
[65]
just spent 2 hours downloading the update, got to the end and the verification failed. gutted! "would you like to download this update again?" LOL.......NO !!!
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AydenKain
Spais Of The Federation
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:28:00 -
[66]
creator even lags on a AMD Spider system....
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Wannit
Minmatar Damocles Society
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:28:00 -
[67]
The EVE Voice feature on EVE Gate doesn't do anything except being gray.
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RonPaulReVolt
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:29:00 -
[68]
would reinstalling the client help any issues people have with booting up the new incursion patch or once i reinstall do i have to download and install the patch anyway?
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Mijano
Minmatar Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:29:00 -
[69]
Edited by: Mijano on 18/01/2011 17:30:10 Edited by: Mijano on 18/01/2011 17:29:36 The client lags like hell when I'm about to re-create how my character looks, and I'm not sure I'll do my best creating the look I want. I need to know if this issue is resolvable, or if my computer is the problem. If anyone else could say they have the same problem, and that they know that it's not their computer, I'd be not just happy like a motherf-, but I'd also have an orgasm and turn totally gay looking at myself 25 hours a day. 'I'll die rather than yet again become a slave forgotten by history and forsaken by destiny.' |
Hakaru Ishiwara
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:29:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Komen Okay, I had tried out the new character creator on Sisi before launch, on this computer. It ran smoothly, the animation was fluid, and I had no trouble sculpting face/body (aside from any noticable artistic skills, that is).
Having downloaded Incursion 1.1.0, I'm getting 2 frames per second in the character creator, trying to sculpt anything is impossible as the results of click + drag on any part of body or face only animates 2-3 seconds later, making it difficult to even tell what mouse movement did what.
Logging into Eve itself, I find that the spaceship portion is as usual.
So, yeah, significant framerate drop in the character creator. Something screwy there, and I can't even imagine trying to walk in stations with a few DOZEN of these avatars.
Remaining a silhouette for now.
Fake edit: Oh, OS and hardware spec:
Win7 64 Ultimate AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4200+ 2 Gigs RAM Nvidia GeForce 7800 GTX
QFT. The character creator offers up terrible performance and makes the character creation process tedious at best and nearly unusable by reasonable standards.
What is the CCP recommended hardware specification to attain high quality performance w/in the character creation environment?
I strongly recommend that people wait to update their avatars until this code is optimized.
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Azureite
Amarr Podoholics Anonymous
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:33:00 -
[71]
Well, I had finished my portrait and hit save... nothing happened, so I tinkered a bit more with the pose. About 20 seconds later I crashed to desktop, losing all of my work. Not fun.
Oh, and having the 'snap portrait' feature take pictures of the totally random blinking is pretty nonsensical.
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Palovana
Caldari Inner Fire Inc.
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:33:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Komen Okay, I had tried out the new character creator on Sisi before launch, on this computer. It ran smoothly, the animation was fluid, and I had no trouble sculpting face/body (aside from any noticable artistic skills, that is).
Having downloaded Incursion 1.1.0, I'm getting 2 frames per second in the character creator, trying to sculpt anything is impossible as the results of click + drag on any part of body or face only animates 2-3 seconds later, making it difficult to even tell what mouse movement did what.
Logging into Eve itself, I find that the spaceship portion is as usual.
So, yeah, significant framerate drop in the character creator. Something screwy there, and I can't even imagine trying to walk in stations with a few DOZEN of these avatars.
Remaining a silhouette for now.
Fake edit: Oh, OS and hardware spec:
Win7 64 Ultimate AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4200+ 2 Gigs RAM Nvidia GeForce 7800 GTX
A 7800 GTX is several generations old, I'm not surprised you're getting poor framerates in the character creator.
It's quite resource-intensive and it even caused my old GTS250 (basically a rebadged 9800GT) to breathe hard on SISI builds.
I haven't tried it with my week-old GTX460 yet.
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CCP Adida
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:34:00 -
[73]
If you are having issues please be sure that you are posting them in the Issues thread. This thread is for feedback regarding Incursion 1.1.0.
Adida Community Rep CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Karia Sur
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:34:00 -
[74]
i think this thread http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1450596 needs support.
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Croniac
Forged Raptor TECH Raptors Allegiance
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:35:00 -
[75]
Very disappointed that there are no long hair options for Gallente male except for dreds.
Clothing selection is way too limited.
I sure hope you're going to at least let us re-dress our toons and re-portrait them. I'm happy with the physical models I can make but very disappointed with everything else about the creator.
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Sylvous
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:36:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Uzii Jay
Also, why do all Amarr male look old, even with the youngest setting?
If you read some of the back story, you'll find that for the Amarr, looking older is obviously the "sexier" way to look (males thin out their hair etc to give the feel of age).
The older you look, the more wealth/status you have. At least that's why I'm guessing they look old no matter how young you want to be.
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Tub Chil
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:37:00 -
[77]
Edited by: Tub Chil on 18/01/2011 17:38:21 \\
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Basilia Wenclara
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:37:00 -
[78]
Changing Skill Requirements without prior notice? Not cool.
Drone Link Augmentor's now require Combat Drone Operation III, whereas they used to require Scout Drone Operation IV.
Obviously, not a huge issue, but I did not realize this, took my alt out into the field, and blam, all of a sudden he's sitting there taking damage, and can't fire back, because he can't use these units. Now I have to wait 7 hours to train the skill before he can use them. He is a new alt, so doesn't have that skill yet, since he was using sentries.
Most folks wouldn't even notice the difference, but to change required skills without notice, and not in the patch. That's just dumb. Come on guys, you can do better.
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Valuial
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:39:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Imiarr Timshae Edited by: Imiarr Timshae on 18/01/2011 16:54:22
Entire Character Creation System looks rushed and generally unpolished
Character Creation :
1. No Black Hair.
2. COLOSSAL lack of clothing. (Are we going to have to pay real money to look good? Nice little earner CCP.) Do you want this shirt or.... this shirt?
3. Character Creator seems to be a body sculpting utility and little else. Alteration of all body parts is fluid and flawless. Only problem is we HAVE to dress them, thus we HAVE to look awful.
4. The guy I am trying to edit WILL NOT HOLD STILL.
Reccomended : DO NOT UPDATE YOUR CHARACTER - Wait until they fix it (Being released in another two years?)
CCP : Making ingame avatars more important in gameplay whilst also utterly limiting player choice in variation and style.
+1 this is just a shame... seriously 50k player/15 set of cloth, sometime i wonder where ccp live i'm sure they were pretty satisfy with this... ccp guy's, do the math this will be clone's war... stop implementing stuff like this.
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Gun Gun
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:39:00 -
[80]
I really hate this Barbie-meets-Space-Ken update! Also, one of my planets has malfunctioned
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Bladacticus
Caldari SOL Industries
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:39:00 -
[81]
I am having no problems running the creator. There is a slight delay between choosing an option (such as clothing, etc) but it is only very slight.
I have a Intel Core i5 and an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4670.
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Antihrist Pripravnik
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:40:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Uzii Jay Also, why do all Amarr male look old, even with the youngest setting?
Watch the introduction video for Amarr. It clearly say "The Amarr are the oldest race in New Eden"
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RJBlues
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:40:00 -
[83]
http://www.eveonline.com/en/incursion/article/131/neo-neocom
is missing....
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Mr Pikey
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:41:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Hakaru Ishiwara
Originally by: Komen Okay, I had tried out the new character creator on Sisi before launch, on this computer. It ran smoothly, the animation was fluid, and I had no trouble sculpting face/body (aside from any noticable artistic skills, that is).
Having downloaded Incursion 1.1.0, I'm getting 2 frames per second in the character creator, trying to sculpt anything is impossible as the results of click + drag on any part of body or face only animates 2-3 seconds later, making it difficult to even tell what mouse movement did what.
Logging into Eve itself, I find that the spaceship portion is as usual.
So, yeah, significant framerate drop in the character creator. Something screwy there, and I can't even imagine trying to walk in stations with a few DOZEN of these avatars.
Remaining a silhouette for now.
Fake edit: Oh, OS and hardware spec:
Win7 64 Ultimate AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4200+ 2 Gigs RAM Nvidia GeForce 7800 GTX
QFT. The character creator offers up terrible performance and makes the character creation process tedious at best and nearly unusable by reasonable standards.
What is the CCP recommended hardware specification to attain high quality performance w/in the character creation environment?
I strongly recommend that people wait to update their avatars until this code is optimized.
Almost the same spec's as above but 8800GTS graphics and it's not bad, bit slow but usable.
For others having problems have you tried playing with the character creator settings in the ESC menu?
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Tarrick
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:41:00 -
[85]
Do I just get the one shot at my character creation I selected the wrong hair how can I change it?
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Makko Gray
Nexus Aerospace Corporation
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:41:00 -
[86]
Character sculting is really quite nice, takes a little getting used to be happy with what I can achieve. Shame there hair options a few and look fairly poor in general, also a shame that the clothing and accessories is so severely limited.
I look forward to see more content on this in future and hope we get the chance to customise our characters some more in light of obvious improvements to come.
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weasil421
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:42:00 -
[87]
I WANT MY OLD PORTRAIT BACK!!!
CCP should fire the butthead who created this fail character creator. so little options...sure the detail is high and the images look crisper but at least give us the option of recreating our old photos as closely as possible.
thx alot ccp...looking forward to where you try to start selling us clothing for our chars...%*&^tards |
Catari Taga
Centre Of Attention Middle of Nowhere
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:42:00 -
[88]
- probing icons changed from eye sore to near invisible - check
- bookmark sharing changed from major pain to basically impossible - check
- contract UI as the only good change not being implemented - check
- etc.
yeah, another quality expansion as was to be expected. here, have a banana for the monkeys that you call game designers.
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Travis117
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:42:00 -
[89]
cant dock and my laptop desktop screen is all screwed up good work ccp
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Silver Drag0n
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:42:00 -
[90]
Edited by: Silver Drag0n on 18/01/2011 17:42:45 I would like to say I've encountered a bug, but felt fairly positive about the new creator.
The bug being that my hood, which was up, is now showing as "off" in-game. Why is this a bug? Because my hood is still covering my face at the login screen. EDIT: It seems my hood does not show up on here either.
Also, you shouldn't have FOUR portrait save slots if you only get to keep ONE. That just seems stupid.
Those aside, and the frustration that followed, I was generally happy with it. |
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Ragnoroc
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:43:00 -
[91]
Edited by: Ragnoroc on 18/01/2011 17:52:14 Edited by: Ragnoroc on 18/01/2011 17:51:08 After two sets of black screen, eventually got the character creator up, 2 frames a second, mouse will not move smoothly even out of the eve window. Leaving blank chars till fixed. Doing 12 toons like this is a no-no.
AMD Athlon 64 X2 dual 4800+ (2.4Ghz) 2x NVidia GeForce 7800 GTX (in one card per screen mode)
Not the latest but not that shabby!
As this fuctionallity is totally useless in game I would like my old portraits back to save the hassle of going through all this crap.
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Yumiko Hatori
Caldari Blood Money Dark Angels The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:43:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Valuial
Originally by: Imiarr Timshae Edited by: Imiarr Timshae on 18/01/2011 16:54:22
Entire Character Creation System looks rushed and generally unpolished
Character Creation :
1. No Black Hair.
2. COLOSSAL lack of clothing. (Are we going to have to pay real money to look good? Nice little earner CCP.) Do you want this shirt or.... this shirt?
3. Character Creator seems to be a body sculpting utility and little else. Alteration of all body parts is fluid and flawless. Only problem is we HAVE to dress them, thus we HAVE to look awful.
4. The guy I am trying to edit WILL NOT HOLD STILL.
Reccomended : DO NOT UPDATE YOUR CHARACTER - Wait until they fix it (Being released in another two years?)
CCP : Making ingame avatars more important in gameplay whilst also utterly limiting player choice in variation and style.
+1 this is just a shame... seriously 50k player/15 set of cloth, sometime i wonder where ccp live i'm sure they were pretty satisfy with this... ccp guy's, do the math this will be clone's war... stop implementing stuff like this.
also bumping this...
I also have no idea what kind of stuff some DEVs are smoking....
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dobran87
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:43:00 -
[93]
When pressing save in the end of charactor creation - it should ask which of those 4 pictures you want OR "ARE YOU SURE?" .. Dammit - can i get a free retry?
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Darth Gilligan
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:44:00 -
[94]
I'm yawning. I'm yawning some more and ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ. So many option to make a generic look. just hit randomize once and be done with it because there is no point in trying to make your portrait look different from anyone one elses. At least the Amarr males can still have a hood on their dress.
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ShadowRocka
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:46:00 -
[95]
I want the new goddamn neocom and the new goddamn contracts why were they in the patchnotes if they weren't to be released with this patch? CCP, I am dissapoint.
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ZILEENA
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:46:00 -
[96]
Everyone is upset at this patch and its small or big glitches - me im upset because i cant even play eve now untill i go out and buy another computer because of the sse2 thing (ú$^%ú%ú"^)- way to go ccp as if life isnt expensive enough now ill have withdrawls till i get a new comp ......not a happy camper at all
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Alicia Hottness
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:48:00 -
[97]
I've only done my Achura char so far, but I think the creator is pretty darn sweet.
I think I turned out pretty hot, at least I'd certainly do myself if I could
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dobran87
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:49:00 -
[98]
Originally by: ShadowRocka I want the new goddamn neocom and the new goddamn contracts why were they in the patchnotes if they weren't to be released with this patch? CCP, I am dissapoint.
From the Dev blog: The new NeoCom BETA will be hitting TQ as part of the main Incursions release, January 18th 2011, and SISI before Christmas.
i do really want.
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Bladacticus
Caldari SOL Industries
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:50:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Silver Drag0n
Also, you shouldn't have FOUR portrait save slots if you only get to keep ONE. That just seems stupid.
I don't understand why this is a problem. First of all, if you read the help info (by clicking on the '?' symbol at the bottom left, it tells you you can only choose one for in game use. But I like the 4 shots. you take 4 pics then choose the best on as your portrait. Just like when you go to have your photo taken in real life!
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Jane Blow
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:52:00 -
[100]
I havent even got as far as char creation. Download of new build fails...trying for 3rd time since 15:00
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Sniffy McJiggles
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:54:00 -
[101]
Take it easy.. I just heard from a top top ccp dude that incursion is actually being rolled out over 13 patches over the next 12years.. and Iam not trolling either.
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Valuial
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:55:00 -
[102]
Edited by: Valuial on 18/01/2011 18:01:40
Originally by: Yumiko Hatori
Originally by: Valuial
Originally by: Imiarr Timshae Edited by: Imiarr Timshae on 18/01/2011 16:54:22
Entire Character Creation System looks rushed and generally unpolished
Character Creation :
1. No Black Hair.
2. COLOSSAL lack of clothing. (Are we going to have to pay real money to look good? Nice little earner CCP.) Do you want this shirt or.... this shirt?
3. Character Creator seems to be a body sculpting utility and little else. Alteration of all body parts is fluid and flawless. Only problem is we HAVE to dress them, thus we HAVE to look awful.
4. The guy I am trying to edit WILL NOT HOLD STILL.
Reccomended : DO NOT UPDATE YOUR CHARACTER - Wait until they fix it (Being released in another two years?)
CCP : Making ingame avatars more important in gameplay whilst also utterly limiting player choice in variation and style.
+1 this is just a shame... seriously 50k player/15 set of cloth, sometime i wonder where ccp live i'm sure they were pretty satisfy with this... ccp guy's, do the math this will be clone's war... stop implementing stuff like this.
also bumping this...
I also have no idea what kind of stuff some DEVs are smoking....
even the char creation in my opinion is worst than the older one, cuz with this is one it's impossible to make a unique face, yeah you can adjust tons of things but it's like a train on a railroad, the whole shape of the head is static ("bones"), too much communication leads ccp to release beta stuff, carbon technology is cool but used like that doh... how... well... lsd maybe ?
Edit: i'm not asking to roll back, but for once, please, ccp use common sense.
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Catari Taga
Centre Of Attention Middle of Nowhere
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Posted - 2011.01.18 17:57:00 -
[103]
So bubbles now pull you in instead of just to the edge? Can't wait to see the tears that's gonna cause. --
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Baldie Blad
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:00:00 -
[104]
Well, I LIKE the character creation, it just needs to be better. There is UBER potential here, but there isn't enough ways to alter it to be able to make the look you really want!
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Illadelph Justice
SniggWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:01:00 -
[105]
(cross posting from the issues thread because i thought i was posting in the feedback thread)
i'd make the suggestion that CCP does what it can to fix the known issues that are identified, and when they feel that they've fixed it to the best of their ability, they give players the option of redoing their portraits a few weeks from now. it seems a lot of people are unhappy with what they've created mostly because they did not understand the functionality of the character creator.
i myself have not tried it yet, I still have 4 hours of work to go before i download the update. wish me luck.
just a suggestion. ---
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Mijano
Minmatar Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:01:00 -
[106]
Seriously what the F, CCP? WHY CAN'T WE CHANGE OUR BLOODLINE?
I don't want my character to look like an African. Why? BECAUSE I AM NOT AN AFRICAN. It's a good thing you don't only have white color-skin like most games, but also Asian as well as African, but it's just so [insert bad word] annoying when I want the look of my character to resemble how I look in real life, I am Scandinavian.
This is bullsh-, and I started playing this game because I actually thought you gave a **** about your players, but now I'm doubtful. This is one of the most unthoughtful events I have ever had the pleasure to be a part of. 'I'll die rather than yet again become a slave forgotten by history and forsaken by destiny.' |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:02:00 -
[107]
CCP after seeing some portraits, I think you'll have to revisit the wanted sign as it was set up for the old style. For some of the new it's fine but many are messed up by it cutting directly across faces.
Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it.
Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive. |
Crenshaw Dallas
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:02:00 -
[108]
Wow ok. After doing the character creation thing my computer screen resets to this horrible darkness when I have the client reduced and running in the background. This makes my computer pretty much unusable for anything else but the client while i am playing eve. Bad, bad thing which is going to severely affect my gameplay. I usually use dual monitors and do all kinds of other things while playing eve. Is this behavior fixable?
Also... do I need to kill all my extractors now and install instractor control units then rebuild all the exractors? I didn't see anything like this in the PI dev thread.
Not happy yet.
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Rose Nye
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:04:00 -
[109]
Edited by: Rose Nye on 18/01/2011 18:06:33 Edited by: Rose Nye on 18/01/2011 18:05:15
Quote: PTang Quote: Originally by: Rose Nye Big download too! 1500+ Mb.
Cant comment on the char generator, but judging by these comments, I'll be leaving it until you fix it. Never thought so much would be put into an aspect of the game that will only get used once and mostly ignored due to the games apparent primary feature of FLYING SHIPS AND BLOWING OTHERS UP!
lol
artist are not programers get back in your hole troll.
* Its called an opinion, everyone's entitled to one, as long as they all agree with you eh! * pot calling the kettle black * and yes, they do employ programmers, unless you've not been reading the CCP website.
but then again, I guess youre a massive fan of overweight patches that represent little actual playable game content. The sort of troll that buys forza3 to paint the car all day instead of race.
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Kalya Varr
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:04:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Linus Scorpio
Originally by: Airyn Farscape I would like to even be able to create my character. I have been waiting on a black screen for 20 minutes. I have a decent graphics card and could play the game just fine, but won't load the Creator. Same for my husband who has an Nvidia 9800, so yeah. Definitely fail :(
Same here, nothing but a black screen
Black screen for me also or weird/annoying graphic glitches that crash the client, did not have this issue on SiSi btw.
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Nijaza
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:04:00 -
[111]
my avatar was finalized before i wanted it too. Really was hoping for a Are You Sure screen. Can i please have a redo????
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Takashi X2
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:05:00 -
[112]
I love how noone in this thread ever check out the Character creator on Sisi when it was out. I for one did and was satified with the resualt. Im pretty sure there adding some stuff for isk and some premium stuff for rl moneys for cosmetic stuff like clothes and implants. None of this should be new to anyone and anyone who *****es doesnt have the right unless they were on sisi first and gave feedback so CCP actually had feedback. I hate when players are given the opportunity to make a difference then go **** it i dont care then ***** and complain when stuff goes live.
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Baldie Blad
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:06:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Mijano Seriously what the F, CCP? WHY CAN'T WE CHANGE OUR BLOODLINE?
I don't want my character to look like an African. Why? BECAUSE I AM NOT AN AFRICAN. It's a good thing you don't only have white color-skin like most games, but also Asian as well as African, but it's just so [insert bad word] annoying when I want the look of my character to resemble how I look in real life, I am Scandinavian.
This is bullsh-, and I started playing this game because I actually thought you gave a **** about your players, but now I'm doubtful. This is one of the most unthoughtful events I have ever had the pleasure to be a part of.
Can you change YOUR bloodline? It has been stated, from the very beginning, that you would be unable to change your bloodline/race/gender.
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Gun Gun
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:08:00 -
[114]
OMG! ... PLEASE, when we click 'modify price', move cursor to the price, so that we dont have to click at it again to edit the price.
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RLCHANCE
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:10:00 -
[115]
hmm dontmean to be rude but were is the bata neo com?
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Amarok Tonrar
Hellhound Productions
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:10:00 -
[116]
Not one to usually complain but this is ridiculous. Many of these technical issues such as the screen never loading, and the flickering of black were reported on the test server feedback and it seems absolutely nothing was done about it before rolling it out. At least give us an idea of how to work around it?? I have an "average" system as well. After numerous crashes (when attempting to change graphics settings), lock-ups (when attempting to alt-tab to a different window), and just plain black screens, I finally got one character generator to load. (with the flickering black)
oh. And a much less trivial issue, under the escape menu and language tab, you missed the T in the checkbox "USE EVE TIME"
Seriously CCP, a lot of potentially new players will turn and run before they even sit in a ship if this isn't dealt with and fixed.
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Gun Gun
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:11:00 -
[117]
also, PROBING: when multiple scan results are present, and i click on one to 'ignore' it , all the other signature results (graphic) disappear, as well as when you apply a different filter. Fix it please, this happens at each patch again, and again.
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Baldie Blad
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:12:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Takashi X2 I love how noone in this thread ever check out the Character creator on Sisi when it was out. I for one did and was satified with the resualt. Im pretty sure there adding some stuff for isk and some premium stuff for rl moneys for cosmetic stuff like clothes and implants. None of this should be new to anyone and anyone who *****es doesnt have the right unless they were on sisi first and gave feedback so CCP actually had feedback. I hate when players are given the opportunity to make a difference then go **** it i dont care then ***** and complain when stuff goes live.
+1... hell +100000
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LLando Karishian
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:12:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Imiarr Timshae Edited by: Imiarr Timshae on 18/01/2011 16:54:22
Entire Character Creation System looks rushed and generally unpolished
Character Creation :
1. No Black Hair.
2. COLOSSAL lack of clothing. (Are we going to have to pay real money to look good? Nice little earner CCP.) Do you want this shirt or.... this shirt?
3. Character Creator seems to be a body sculpting utility and little else. Alteration of all body parts is fluid and flawless. Only problem is we HAVE to dress them, thus we HAVE to look awful.
4. The guy I am trying to edit WILL NOT HOLD STILL.
Reccomended : DO NOT UPDATE YOUR CHARACTER - Wait until they fix it (Being released in another two years?)
CCP : Making ingame avatars more important in gameplay whilst also utterly limiting player choice in variation and style.
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Mijano
Minmatar Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:13:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Baldie Blad
Originally by: Mijano Seriously what the F, CCP? WHY CAN'T WE CHANGE OUR BLOODLINE?
I don't want my character to look like an African. Why? BECAUSE I AM NOT AN AFRICAN. It's a good thing you don't only have white color-skin like most games, but also Asian as well as African, but it's just so [insert bad word] annoying when I want the look of my character to resemble how I look in real life, I am Scandinavian.
This is bullsh-, and I started playing this game because I actually thought you gave a **** about your players, but now I'm doubtful. This is one of the most unthoughtful events I have ever had the pleasure to be a part of.
Can you change YOUR bloodline? It has been stated, from the very beginning, that you would be unable to change your bloodline/race/gender.
My character wasn't of African descent prior to this new character animation. Sure, he did look like a ****ty motorcycle driver, but that's besides the point. I want to create a character that resembles me, and me being forced to create an African character doesn't give me that option. I have spent both time and money on this character. New as I am it may not be much, but I don't wish being forced to create a new character and wait until I get those 2m SP again.
It's not okay - in any way. Denying this ... Well ... It's just not right. 'I'll die rather than yet again become a slave forgotten by history and forsaken by destiny.' |
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Alicina Goodbody
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:14:00 -
[121]
Cross posted from this morning's whine fest thread:
There was no need to change a basic key combo to exit the game.
To get back your <ctl>Q exit:
1. escape 2. Shortcuts panel 3. General sub-panel 4. select Quit game
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Anastrianna StormHeart
Gallente Confederation of Malefactors
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:15:00 -
[122]
Character creation is sweet as. For everyone dissing it for what ever reason, have a care. This is the first game I've played that gives you this much customization on character creation. Also it is their first attempt at this, so how about offering some creative criticism, instead of things like "it's crap".
Do you honestly think other games that offer character customization got it perfect on their first attempt??
I've noted some people complaining that there aren't a lot of clothing options, well if they had taken the time to do some research or watch some vids from fanfest, they would know that when Incarna comes out, you the player will be able to go and make new clothes (they will be a blue print item like everything else in Eve) you want it, you make it.
Now as for my first impressions, I found the character creator fun to play around with. The loss of sliders was a sensational idea, as there is now HEAPS more control over the parts you can modify.
Its like the Steering wheel VS gamepad argument in car driving games, a game pad arrow press will give you a full quarter turn, the analog sticks give you more control, but still not as smooth as the steering wheel will allow.
The sliders while giving a bunch of options were limited in what you could and couldn't change, with the "grab and drag" method given to us now, you can get that cheekbone to be exactly where you want it, and that left eye just the right tilt while offsetting the focus point for the eye.
As for the overall game play, I haven't had any problems, if anything Eve runs better now, that it did before the patch. I love the weapon grouping changes, I'm sure once people use them with in the middle of a fleet fight they will come to love them too.
IE. You undock with your fancy new Myrm fit, set your guns to 2 groups, thus giving you the option to fire at two targets at once. ALAS, your fleet commander is only calling one target at a time, so your wasting time by firing off two groups, so you make it one group.
Old method. Unload all charges (10 seconds). Click enter grouping mode. Clear all groups. Make a new single group. Exit grouping mode. Reload charges (10 Seconds).
That's at least 30 second of work, and in a fleet fight that's an eternity.
New Method. Enter grouping mode. Click and drag one group onto the other group. Exit grouping mode. Done. Fire away.
Maybe 5 seconds of work. Happy Days. (Insert Fonzy Aaay! Here)
Incursions, OH GOD WHERE DID THE NIGHTMARES COME FROM!!!! This is going to be FUN
Contract changes, this will eliminate a lot of confusion for new players, awesome.
I don't use Eve gate much, so I cant really comment on the changes, but on paper they look like good changes and features.
PI. If you are really into your PI, the new changes are pretty cool, I tried my hand at it when it came out, I liked it a lot, but if left me hanging for something more, that proverbial high 5 maybe, and now, we get that high 5.
UI fixes and features, AWESOME, a new ere in internet spaceships.
Overall first impressions are pretty good for me. There isn't anything on the patch notes I read and was all like "WHAT? NO!!! THAT'S CRAP!!!!!" All the changes, fixes, new features are appealing to me, and I'm sure new players too (and maybe some returning players as well).
If anything, the only quibble I have is that when using the new character creator, the hair wouldn't sit, it kept moving around like it was colliding with invisible walls, but this only happened when I was zoomed up on the bust view.
Apart from that though I'm well happy with the new patch, (as I have been with all previous patches).
In closing a good 10/10 from me, and these words.
To everyone using the new patch, have a care, give CCP some credit where credit is due. Servers haven't even been up for a full 2 hours yet, constructive criticism, is the name of the game folks, it's the only way you will get changes made to things you don't like. -------------------------------------------------
The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. |
Orca04
Gallente Tactical Delivery
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:15:00 -
[123]
Edited by: Orca04 on 18/01/2011 18:18:33 What happened to tattoos on gallente males? I don't want to remake my character without the tattoo, Also on the Amarr the robe doesn't look like it wants to stay with the arm.
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Imiarr Timshae
Caldari Funny Men In Funny Hats
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:17:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Orca04 What happened to tattoos on gallente males? I don't want to remake my character without the tattoo
You just got shaftedÖ, it's a new feature! -----
Originally by: GM Horse
Remember kids, both meth and macro use are Really Quite Bad Things.
Originally by: CCP Shadow Tragic smelting accidents.
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:19:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Takashi X2 I love how noone in this thread ever check out the Character creator on Sisi when it was out. I for one did and was satified with the resualt. Im pretty sure there adding some stuff for isk and some premium stuff for rl moneys for cosmetic stuff like clothes and implants. None of this should be new to anyone and anyone who *****es doesnt have the right unless they were on sisi first and gave feedback so CCP actually had feedback. I hate when players are given the opportunity to make a difference then go **** it i dont care then ***** and complain when stuff goes live.
Really?
Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it.
Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive. |
Rac1mir
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:19:00 -
[126]
Seriously, CCP? What have the poor Intakis done to you, to deserve such a cruel fate of mandatory haircut? In old character editor, they used to have several different long hairstyles. Now I can choose between 4 types of bald, several short hair, and dreadlocks. Some loose, longer hair, a ponytail, and perhaps a braid - is that really too much to ask?
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Tom Catcher
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:20:00 -
[127]
Am i totaly not getting eve-voice on eve gate or am i not getting it?
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John Lascaris
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:20:00 -
[128]
PI Issue,
Anyone else having this problem? When I create more than one head on a extractor, it breaks the route I had established between the extractor and the launchpad, and when I try to recreate the route, it won't allow me.
Any ideas?
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Dirk Decibel
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:20:00 -
[129]
I am completely underwhelmed by the new char creation tool. So friggin little options in clothing I thought I was missing some buttons at first...
And I tried to make my gallente female look like an old hag. Best I could do was a mid twenty woman who was not in the very best shape she could be in but who is prolly still hotter and more beautifull than 99% of all women irl....
Underwhelming, I certainly hope we get to redesign our chars again once you get this thing out of it's beta-testing
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Waaaaaagggh
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:20:00 -
[130]
Where's the new neocom and contracts system??
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Royaldo
Gallente Kongsberg Vaapenfabrikk Amarr branch. Sev3rance
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:21:00 -
[131]
ECT's can only mine 1 type of material at a time?
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DOA KillerWolf
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:23:00 -
[132]
Originally by: Waaaaaagggh Where's the new neocom and contracts system??
I am wondering the same thing? I saw mention of it in the Patch Notes but no where to be found in game!
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:23:00 -
[133]
CCP, can we please have a promise that the art assets that certain races have will be available to other races soon? ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Turelus
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:25:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Imiarr Timshae Edited by: Imiarr Timshae on 18/01/2011 16:54:22
Entire Character Creation System looks rushed and generally unpolished
Character Creation :
1. No Black Hair.
2. COLOSSAL lack of clothing. (Are we going to have to pay real money to look good? Nice little earner CCP.) Do you want this shirt or.... this shirt?
3. Character Creator seems to be a body sculpting utility and little else. Alteration of all body parts is fluid and flawless. Only problem is we HAVE to dress them, thus we HAVE to look awful.
4. The guy I am trying to edit WILL NOT HOLD STILL.
Reccomended : DO NOT UPDATE YOUR CHARACTER - Wait until they fix it (Being released in another two years?)
CCP : Making ingame avatars more important in gameplay whilst also utterly limiting player choice in variation and style.
All of those issues were brought up while it was on SISI time and time again and there was nothing done. I think after a point they must of just said "this is it" and stopped taking feedback. I was holding out hope that SISI was just a test version and we would be blown away by the release on TQ but that didn't happen. I'm interested to see how this goes over the next few weeks and if CCP are willing to listen to the more constructive issues and complaints and work on them or if they just ignore it and continue on.
I'm glad to see I am not the only one massively ****ed off by the update though.
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Mafioso Bocci
Amarr The Alteran Brethren
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:26:00 -
[135]
Although I find the lack of options in the character creation rather depressing, the actual mechanics of the character editor are really well done. It flows extremely well and allows you to easily changed and edit body features. So land us some more options and I think you'd make the community much happier.
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JooJoo Akarr
Territorial Western Alliance of Higher Technology
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:27:00 -
[136]
Edited by: JooJoo Akarr on 18/01/2011 18:27:09 I love it. Character customization right now is great for a first release. I'm sure it will only be improved upon even more in the near future. For all of those who are having tech difficulties with it hopefully you can get it fixed soon =( For those of you haters, stop blaming CCP on your inability to be a little creative with the abundance of options you have =P
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Iraherag
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:28:00 -
[137]
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1450614
All I can say is: Yay, you did it again.
Again you are unable to deliver a precise, consistent and clear message before introducing a change and need to add explanations and details afterwards.
Is it really that hard to clearly express how a feature will behave in advance? Do you actually prefer to get an additional influx of petitions and answering/explaining on the forums over just writing a clear and unambigious statement?
It's not like your petition system is craving for more inquiries...
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:28:00 -
[138]
Originally by: Turelus All of those issues were brought up while it was on SISI time and time again and there was nothing done. I think after a point they must of just said "this is it" and stopped taking feedback. I was holding out hope that SISI was just a test version and we would be blown away by the release on TQ but that didn't happen. I'm interested to see how this goes over the next few weeks and if CCP are willing to listen to the more constructive issues and complaints and work on them or if they just ignore it and continue on.
I'm glad to see I am not the only one massively ****ed off by the update though.
Not by a long shot, mate. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Jia When
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:28:00 -
[139]
Changing market orders caused the cursor to appear in the numbers field before this patch. This is not the case anymore. So you're forced to do additional clickwork everytime changing an order. As there is obvious no benefit of this change but a lot of unnecessary extra work, please change this back to the pre-patch-state.
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Freelancer117
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:28:00 -
[140]
Edited by: Freelancer117 on 18/01/2011 18:28:55
Originally by: Maaltor
Originally by: Freelancer117 oh my 3D MMO's, where are the good old times ?
Gone sowy
oh fyi Walking in Stations this summer 2011, can i have your stuff if you quit ?
Well isn't that pretty stupid? I just want to fly around in ships, I don't want to have to recreate my character - it was fine how it was the first time. As it is I can't recreate them anyway - the 'things' my character had aren't an option any more
https://image.eveonline.com/Character/668773800_512.jpg
nuf said
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Catari Taga
Centre Of Attention Middle of Nowhere
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:28:00 -
[141]
Originally by: Takashi X2 I love how noone in this thread ever check out the Character creator on Sisi when it was out. I for one did and was satified with the resualt. Im pretty sure there adding some stuff for isk and some premium stuff for rl moneys for cosmetic stuff like clothes and implants. None of this should be new to anyone and anyone who *****es doesnt have the right unless they were on sisi first and gave feedback so CCP actually had feedback. I hate when players are given the opportunity to make a difference then go **** it i dont care then ***** and complain when stuff goes live.
I tell CCP they are ******ed every chance I get so STFU --
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Alastanir
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:30:00 -
[142]
Edited by: Alastanir on 18/01/2011 18:31:59
To all the whiners:
Would you like a straw? You know, so you can suck it up? |
madBadger
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:32:00 -
[143]
Had issues with long hair in Character Creation. Long hair would render fine on the face pre portrait, then when I hit next to deal with my portrait the long hair on the right side of the face would intrude INTO the skin of the face. Hit back, looks fine in the character creation, go forward to portrait again and same issue, ended up having to make the face really thin so the hair would not get stuck inside of the skin :/ Little things like that make it look really sloppy.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:33:00 -
[144]
Originally by: Alastanir To all the whiners:
Would you like a straw? You know, so you can suck it up?
CCP asks for feedback, they get feedback. If you can't deal with the fact that some people didn't like the half-finished, unfair version of the editor CCP released, I suggest it's you who needs the straw. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Dirk Decibel
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:33:00 -
[145]
Originally by: JooJoo Akarr Edited by: JooJoo Akarr on 18/01/2011 18:27:09 I love it. Character customization right now is great for a first release. I'm sure it will only be improved upon even more in the near future. For all of those who are having tech difficulties with it hopefully you can get it fixed soon =( For those of you haters, stop blaming CCP on your inability to be a little creative with the abundance of options you have =P
You seem to know a different CCP than the one making this game ey?
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Twistator
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:36:00 -
[146]
like my pic, but the mini chat version looks crappy imoh :/ |
Gonad Vulva
The Amen Brotherhood
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:38:00 -
[147]
Originally by: Dirk Decibel
And I tried to make my gallente female look like an old hag. Best I could do was a mid twenty woman who was not in the very best shape she could be in but who is prolly still hotter and more beautifull than 99% of all women irl....
But seriously though, all day I've been looking forward to turning my sexy female probing alt into something that resembles the lovechild of Jackie Stallone and Sloth from The Goonies. Are you telling me that this won't be possible?
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Alastanir
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:39:00 -
[148]
Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
CCP asks for feedback, they get feedback. If you can't deal with the fact that some people didn't like the half-finished, unfair version of the editor CCP released, I suggest it's you who needs the straw.
I happen to like what the developers and artists have offered us. My feedback is positive.
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Royaldo
Gallente Kongsberg Vaapenfabrikk Amarr branch. Sev3rance
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:40:00 -
[149]
Originally by: Royaldo ECT's can only mine 1 type of material at a time?
Yes only 1 type of material can be mined at a time from ect's. Suddenly Im 3300 grid short on my plama planets.
Thanks for this "boost". You were supposed to reduce clicks, not nerf it. This is so god damned annoying.
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Naradak
Minmatar Cube Zombie Consortium
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:40:00 -
[150]
This. Very well said.
PI is so much better. Those who complain must not know how to adapt.
Once you adapt, it's heavenly. Thank you, CCP, from the core of my planets. ;D
Character creator is sweet as well (need my Minmatar tattoos though).
Kudos for shortcut implementation too.
Can't wait to try the incursions!
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Adellle Nadair
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:42:00 -
[151]
There is a slight issue regarding the lighting system for the character portrait system. When you are using the Low Shader Quality the changes made to the lighting intensity and placement options does not change what is actually displayed. While the whole process was a lot of fun, I am disappointed with the result because the lighting for the portrait that was displayed when I selected what to finalize, and the lighting of the portrait used was very different and not what I wanted.
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Cyaxares II
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:45:00 -
[152]
Edited by: Cyaxares II on 18/01/2011 18:48:01
Originally by: Anastrianna StormHeart I've noted some people complaining that there aren't a lot of clothing options, well if they had taken the time to do some research or watch some vids from fanfest, they would know that when Incarna comes out, you the player will be able to go and make new clothes (they will be a blue print item like everything else in Eve) you want it, you make it.
if you had taken the time to do some research you would know that the list of features to be included in the first Incarna release will only be decided by CCP this month, that CSM is very concerned about a mismatch between player expectations rgd Incarna and what CCP can realistically deliver and that the presentations at Fanfest were basically just showing the results of "look what cool ideas we have" brainstorming sessions.
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Siocine
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:47:00 -
[153]
Against the general grain of this thread, I for one think the character creator is a much needed upgrade on the game. Lets face it, the last one was a very fine representation of the best technology 2003 had to offer, which is a big part of the problem.
Honestly guys, it's time to move on to better a brighter things. It's just a picture, we can't do anything with it... yet.
Bravo CCP. |
GeoBlue
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:50:00 -
[154]
CCP this is a major, FAIL!!!
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Alicina Goodbody
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:51:00 -
[155]
MUST we character create?
I think I prefer to be a black outline for the rest of my days in EVE.
Can't wait to see what the non-character created toon shadow looks like moving around in Incarna.
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Di Mulle
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:52:00 -
[156]
Originally by: Anastrianna StormHeart I've noted some people complaining that there aren't a lot of clothing options, well if they had taken the time to do some research or watch some vids from fanfest, they would know that when Incarna comes out, you the player will be able to go and make new clothes (they will be a blue print item like everything else in Eve) you want it, you make it.
And you will be kindly offered the service of changing your portrait from having the same shirt as 300.000+ else to something decent for a mere 10 euros.
Fixed it a bit. It seemed something's missing.
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Keitaro Baka
Babylon Scientific and Industrial Enterprises Babylon Project
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:53:00 -
[157]
I hoped the weeks we spent on sisi playing with and generally complaining about the new character creator would lead to a decent one on TQ.
Sadly I should should have known this would not be the case.
Losing the old characters is a real pain. Progress is fine, but I would have liked to been able to recreate my character if only similarly, but alas, you feel the character creator is fine now.
So what's lacking, imho:
- Hair styles. Hair colour. Hair lengths. More than 2 tones. More facial hair types for men, more hair bits for girls. - Implants, scars, marks, tattoos, bling. - Body type fat is not fat, thin is not thin and a little height adjustment might be nice? - Seriously, sunglasses, for my gallente male, but no reading glasses? Or a friggin' monocle? Wait sunglasses? You could have at least included a LaForge Visor or something, I'm cruising at warp speed with my sunglasses in my pod. Really? - Pick, sneakers or boots. Fine for certain chars, crap for others, more shoes, including decent businessmanlike loavers for all I care, just give us something. - Pants, same, needs some classy pants too. - How about dresses for all women? You need to wear pants? Always? Nice way of keeping all the surrounding imagery you guys like current. - Two, read it two top outer choices for one of my chars. Seriously, more. I don't WANT to microtransact those later, then have to pay again to get a character reshot. Really CCP, really? - Normal tops are too few too, all short sleeved so you look like a douche if you don't get a jacket or something. - Then there's the lights, no coloured lightst to at least give hair a different glow or something, it's just as if the entire character creator is a third year college design course project that's been rushed.
It is horrible.
At first I thought it was mostly to avoid weird looking characters, EvE trying to proof it's all mature and all, but then you get some of the chars ingame, and the sunglasses, and I just don't get it.
I've been through a lot these past 7 years with you guys, but really this one of three times I've just lost all my will to play this game, I just have some main characters which I can't remotely make look like I would like them to look. Good job and good job for listening to what we've been telling you on sisi.
I really hope you fix this pathetic excuse for a 'new character creator', if not fast at least well. For now I'll just click no every time. Ignore me
Drone Guide EON 21 & 22 |
Alastanir
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:53:00 -
[158]
Originally by: Alastanir
I happen to like what the developers and artists have offered us. My feedback is positive.
Actually... I do have one complaint.
I downloaded the patch, it extracted fine, and then started to install. Unbeknownst to me at the time, I neglected to remember just how much free space I had on the hard drive. The installer puked and it reverted to the repair tool which now is re-downloading everything again.
It would be nice if in an event like that one could install with the patch files that were just extracted to a temporary directory.
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Lemming EVERADIO'FAN
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:58:00 -
[159]
All in all good patch. Liked what I could do with my portait and awesome job with the new shortcuts.
However, The graphics are a little buggy.
Im runnin on an old ATI radeon HD 4600 Video card and now whenever I alt tab out of eve, my screen has a dark filter applied to it. Only fixes itself when I log out of eve, not logg off.
Other than that it seems to be running smooth.
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Iraherag
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:01:00 -
[160]
"Quit Game" now has a different default hotkey. However the old one "CTRL-Q" does not seem to be assigned to anything else by default. It's rather stupid to modify existing hotkeys without necessity (you can just map it back to the old one with no problem).
Same for the menu item positions. Are you finally done moving everything to another location? Aren't there some more typos you could fix instead of screwing with that?!
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Solvok
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:02:00 -
[161]
It would've been neat if a warning indeed did pop up when finishing the character creation - I had made four portraits expecting to be able to change between them every now and then, and I ended up finishing the ugliest one last, so now I'm stuck with crap.
Though, when I quickly read through every other post here, I saw someone mentioning how we will be able to again re-create the portraits later. Is this true?
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Stormchyld
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:04:00 -
[162]
I don't suppose I can use the character avatars I created on singularity for TQ can I?
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Cactusito
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:06:00 -
[163]
JEEEPPPEERSSS
SSE2 not supported. well.. thanks for that CCP... thats just screwed me and my whole game over truly !! since I run 3000XP Athalon..
Cograts, smashing upgrade!!!
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henchana
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:10:00 -
[164]
Just opened the faceless charcter of mine... nice pubic, bad hairdo.. why cant I use my naced avatar as she is
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Goro's Reborn
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:11:00 -
[165]
Feedback on Character creator: I tried it on Sisi, and I could do an epic portrait for my gallente. My plan was to create something very similar to old one, but in better quality, and I succeeded. Now there is no option for long hair, only a Brutor style rasta! :(((( Most gallente had long hair before the patch, and I think im not the only one who want to create something very similar compared to old one. Plz give that hairstyle back. Amarr have it now on 8th hair slot. We dont need 5 different Elvis hair and 4 different bald head, just long hair! Thank you!
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PTang
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:12:00 -
[166]
Originally by: Rose Nye Edited by: Rose Nye on 18/01/2011 18:12:07
Quote: PTang Quote: Originally by: Rose Nye Big download too! 1500+ Mb.
Cant comment on the char generator, but judging by these comments, I'll be leaving it until you fix it. Never thought so much would be put into an aspect of the game that will only get used once and mostly ignored due to the games apparent primary feature of FLYING SHIPS AND BLOWING OTHERS UP!
lol
artist are not programers get back in your hole troll.
* Its called an opinion, everyone's entitled to one, as long as they all agree with you eh! * pot calling the kettle black. Its actually asses like you that take threads off of their originally design purpose. Feedback it asked for, not troll others for their comments because you dont agree. So yes, Troll, come and suck my tatties with me in my hole cos youre as green as I must be.
* and yes, they do employ programmers, unless you've not been reading the CCP website.
but then again, I guess youre a massive fan of overweight patches that represent little actual playable game content. The sort of troll that buys forza3 to paint the car all day instead of race.
it's not an opinion that when you hire artist they don't work on code.
what about that is hard to understand?
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Turrican
Madhatters Inc. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:13:00 -
[167]
Please can I vote for a 2nd go on the Char creator.
The documentation/pop ups were minimal and I ended up with the wrong pic, thinking that I was saving the 4 pics and then could choose 1 of them later.
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Braineh
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:15:00 -
[168]
Originally by: Cactusito JEEEPPPEERSSS
SSE2 not supported. well.. thanks for that CCP... thats just screwed me and my whole game over truly !! since I run 3000XP Athalon..
Cograts, smashing upgrade!!!
even a dual core celeron does the job while cpu costs 25Ç while runnin cooler and lower power consumption - get a new system. ;p
About PI - imho the changes you guys did there are nice but now I can't manufacture 2 different things on a planet anymore with a cycle time of a day - was quite easy before and could store tons of raw material. And I'm already in low sec (0.2) which should provide enough ressources for that... pants tbh
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Sirinda
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:16:00 -
[169]
Er...weren't you supposed to improve PI? I was able to manufacture single-planed P3 products before the change with level 3 CCs, now I can't even fit a third ECU, not to mention a fourth!
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Ackrin DarkFyre
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:17:00 -
[170]
I don't know why it has not mentioned yet, maybe no-one else is having this issue, but the new Planetary Improvements has totally screwed over my setup. I was able to make enough POS fuels to be able to run 2-3 POS's by running 5 hour cycles, these new "extraction modules" take up so much power I cannot get anywhere near the amount of resources I could get before while still having the CPU and power to run my factories. I am heavily disappointed by this as I will have to scrap EVERYTHING and start over to try and see if I can somehow manage to squeeze the same productivity out. |
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BZugda Hiara
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:18:00 -
[171]
Hi, could someone please explain or point me in the direction of the notes that explain changes to drone skills. I've spotted the requirement for combat drone op 3 for drone links which is more than a little annoying, what else have I to look forward to ?
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Iraherag
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:19:00 -
[172]
Originally by: Ackrin DarkFyre Edited by: Ackrin DarkFyre on 18/01/2011 19:17:19 I don't know why it has not mentioned yet, maybe no-one else is having this issue, but the new Planetary Improvements has totally messed up my setup. I was able to make enough POS fuels to be able to run 2-3 POS's by running 5 hour cycles, these new "extraction modules" take up so much power I cannot get anywhere near the amount of resources I could get before while still having the CPU and power to run my factories. I am heavily disappointed by this as I will have to scrap EVERYTHING and start over to try and see if I can somehow manage to squeeze the same productivity out.
Could be specific to your setup.
Last time I checked on SISI (quite some time ago) I could get the same output with longer cycles or higher output with the same cycles. Haven't checked on the live system yet...
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Rose Nye
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:21:00 -
[173]
Edited by: Rose Nye on 18/01/2011 19:21:32
Originally by: PTang
Originally by: Rose Nye Edited by: Rose Nye on 18/01/2011 18:12:07
Quote: PTang Quote: Originally by: Rose Nye Big download too! 1500+ Mb.
Cant comment on the char generator, but judging by these comments, I'll be leaving it until you fix it. Never thought so much would be put into an aspect of the game that will only get used once and mostly ignored due to the games apparent primary feature of FLYING SHIPS AND BLOWING OTHERS UP!
lol
artist are not programers get back in your hole troll.
* Its called an opinion, everyone's entitled to one, as long as they all agree with you eh! * pot calling the kettle black. Its actually asses like you that take threads off of their originally design purpose. Feedback it asked for, not troll others for their comments because you dont agree. So yes, Troll, come and suck my tatties with me in my hole cos youre as green as I must be.
* and yes, they do employ programmers, unless you've not been reading the CCP website.
but then again, I guess youre a massive fan of overweight patches that represent little actual playable game content. The sort of troll that buys forza3 to paint the car all day instead of race.
it's not an opinion that when you hire artist they don't work on code.
what about that is hard to understand?
You seem to be struggling with understanding feedback. When youve install a +100iq implant and joined the rest of us, feel free to reply. Cos I guarrantee you do. Troll!
Besides, If Im wrong, then so are so many others here. Try reading the thread.
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Red Woodson
Estrale Frontiers
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:21:00 -
[174]
Quote: Ships which are jumping to a cynosural field located close to a starbase forcefield will now land at a slightly increased distance of up to 15km. This means that pilots will have a slightly increased travel time to get to safety within a starbase.
Any word from CCP on their reason for this change, or is it safe to assume this is to make finding s-car and titan drive-by targets easier.? It wouldn't surprise me if this was also added as a 'bug' on station, though not in open space where it might reduce caps bouncing off each other. |
Suboran
Gallente Best Path Inc.
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:23:00 -
[175]
Char creation eeditor
1. only 7 lighting options (had 36 on sisi) 2. no tatoos 3. poor aging, freckle and scarring tools 4. 5 options for complextion 6. clothes are terrible 7. glasses all one style 8. poor choice of backgrounds ( used to have the engineering/clone room for a background and now I am forced to stand next to a wall or bright nebula) 9. general lack of options for building a character and no improvements on old system (eg: no jewlery or accesories.)
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cosmiclown
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:23:00 -
[176]
COMMIT TO EXCELLENCE. STOP RELEASING UNFINISHED CONTENT.
this
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Yuda Mann
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:24:00 -
[177]
When probing, in solar system view with bookmarks visible, the bookmark pins are near invisible unless they're within a probe's sphere. When updating bookmarks in a wormhole I either had to fly to each one to see where it was on the map, or make the probe spheres huge so the pins would be visible. HI! |
Mattalious
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:24:00 -
[178]
It's not bad, but it does need way more in the way of haircuts, clothing and extras. What about jewelry? Oh and they really, really need to bring back the tattoos and implants.
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Joss56
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:25:00 -
[179]
From what I saw IG about contracts I, Joss56, take my hat off and /bow for this excellent job.
I didn't test all types etc so mabe someone will find some bug I don't know but right now, i should say is even far better than I could ever expect.
Excellent review with those details that even a noob, unless he's blind, will be easly abble to make the difference between scamscum and honest people. Icons, like them either.
For this one i must say: thank you
For the PI improvements: I'm not an expert or even have advanced skils with this matter but what i've tested IG is awesome, i'll need a few days to adapt to this review and maximise my income. Great job imo /bow
Char creator,: well i'm not an Elven fan even if i've played those (shadow babe), but franckly i'm a little bit desapointed how it's donne, think there will be many people that will do no matter what just to get in the game and then will regret latter posting tons of thread about theyr elven female without boobies. Nothing capital but just little bit anoying imo.
But for that one I will not miss you guys: Hybrids still suck and will suck has long has you keep your testing mode, or you are blind. T2 ammo sucks even worst than the rails or the blasters themselfes, tracking multiplier negative...where did you guys phished that one?
Little adenuom to "hybrids still suck", wallente ships are still at the limit between suck and usefull.
For all the job you guys have donne in this patch so far, and it's my humble opinion, good job. ________________________________________________
"You do realise you live on a globe, right? And that there places outside the USA/UK?"
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SportBilly
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:25:00 -
[180]
Is anyone else having problems when they try and create a character?, i can enter the game without it but my PC shuts down and restarts up when i enter character creation.
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LLando Karishian
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:26:00 -
[181]
Originally by: Iraherag "Quit Game" now has a different default hotkey. However the old one "CTRL-Q" does not seem to be assigned to anything else by default. It's rather stupid to modify existing hotkeys without necessity (you can just map it back to the old one with no problem).
Same for the menu item positions. Are you finally done moving everything to another location? Aren't there some more typos you could fix instead of screwing with that?!
I think that the key to quit the game is not that important. You dont have to quit !
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Iraherag
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:26:00 -
[182]
Edited by: Iraherag on 18/01/2011 19:28:33
Originally by: cosmiclown
Quote: COMMIT TO EXCELLENCE. STOP RELEASING UNFINISHED CONTENT.
this
Year of "Excellence" is over. This is the year of "Deliver" (so I heard).
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Never Mri
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:27:00 -
[183]
I had a Planet that, after some tweaking could comfortably extract 4 resources. Those were processed into Processed Materials, and the output processed once more to make a Specialized Commodity... Transcranial Microcontrollers. I even had a few extra basic industry processors.
But no more. Even with an Elite Command center, I simply can't get a 4th Extractor Control Unit running. I don't have the powergrid to add a single head unit to it. (The other 3 only run 1 head unit, and I've eliminated all extra industry and storage.)
It feels like someone decided that I had it too easy. And that nobody should be allowed to make Specialized Commodities without carrying stuff from planet to planet.
So, as bad as I feel about that. Why do I feel just as bad that I can't make a new profile picture with bright red hair anymore? Did the universe run out of red hair dye?
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JCache
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:28:00 -
[184]
Edited by: JCache on 18/01/2011 19:28:16 Bad enough I have to use this damn editor to create a new ugly toon, but what do I have to do stop this fraking idiot from moving!? If you move like this at the barber you end up with hair like... oh, well... Sig removed. Needs more EVE related content. Zymurgist |
Maidrus Klastou
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:28:00 -
[185]
This is a huge kick in the nether region. It sure would have been nice for a pop up warning that the portrait change is final.
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Skuggis
Systembolaget
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:29:00 -
[186]
I'm having alot of problems with the overview. Rats that I have killed turns grey and won't disappear unless I press tab twice which updates the whole overview.
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henchana
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:30:00 -
[187]
Had to scrap charand start from scratch... first Boy George... then Ulriche Mainhof... I kinda liked my old face and stance. Cant recreate the tough broad look...
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Worgen Fratmon
Minmatar Instapop Industries
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:31:00 -
[188]
PI has been ruined. It takes 2x as long to do half the previous production. I like the upgradeable command centers. 90% failure on PI.
The stealth (not mentioned in the change logs that I could find) changes to scanning are better. I like that I can now discern my probes from any angle. The new arrow like marker for signatures (colored versions of the bookmark icon) is harder to see than the previous dot. 60% success.
New Avatars.... bleh. 50% success.
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Iraherag
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:31:00 -
[189]
Everyone who wants to reset their (accidentally) saved new character portrait should file a petition to get it reset, as explained here: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1450614
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Nashon666
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:31:00 -
[190]
So idk what is going on when i try to login it says to me incompatible (release) HELP!!!!! PLEASE
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Baldie Blad
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:32:00 -
[191]
Originally by: Dirk Decibel I am completely underwhelmed by the new char creation tool. So friggin little options in clothing I thought I was missing some buttons at first...
And I tried to make my gallente female look like an old hag. Best I could do was a mid twenty woman who was not in the very best shape she could be in but who is prolly still hotter and more beautifull than 99% of all women irl....
Underwhelming, I certainly hope we get to redesign our chars again once you get this thing out of it's beta-testing
Dude - Beta testing was over the last few months on SISI. you probably should have checked it out then.
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Roc Wieler
Masuat'aa Matari
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:33:00 -
[192]
No tattoos means I won't be updating myself. My facial tattoo is part of what defines me. Otherwise, I'm just a bald guy in sunglasses, like every other Minmatar.
- no tattoos = suck - lack of clothing options = suck - lack of accessories = suck
I don't mind microtransactions with Incarna as long as it actually happens this summer. But before then, I definitely need my tattoo.
Guess I'll be black boxed until this is fixed. I'm sure this will be a hot topic at Fanfest for many.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:33:00 -
[193]
Originally by: Baldie Blad Dude - Beta testing was over the last few months on SISI. you probably should have checked it out then.
As I've said over 9000 times now, I was there when it was being beta-tested, we had exactly the same complaints back then as everyone does now, CCP ignored us. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Joss56
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:35:00 -
[194]
Originally by: Never Mri I had a Planet that, after some tweaking could comfortably extract 4 resources. Those were processed into Processed Materials, and the output processed once more to make a Specialized Commodity... Transcranial Microcontrollers. I even had a few extra basic industry processors.
But no more. Even with an Elite Command center, I simply can't get a 4th Extractor Control Unit running. I don't have the powergrid to add a single head unit to it. (The other 3 only run 1 head unit, and I've eliminated all extra industry and storage.)
It feels like someone decided that I had it too easy. And that nobody should be allowed to make Specialized Commodities without carrying stuff from planet to planet.
So, as bad as I feel about that. Why do I feel just as bad that I can't make a new profile picture with bright red hair anymore? Did the universe run out of red hair dye?
You don't need several extractors anymore. A single extractor is abble to collect several ressorces, you've just missed how to do it. ________________________________________________
"You do realise you live on a globe, right? And that there places outside the USA/UK?"
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Palovana
Caldari Inner Fire Inc.
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:36:00 -
[195]
Edited by: Palovana on 18/01/2011 19:40:02
Originally by: SportBilly Is anyone else having problems when they try and create a character?, i can enter the game without it but my PC shuts down and restarts up when i enter character creation.
It sounds like the new character creator is demanding more juice be sent to your GPU and your power supply can't deliver.
You might want to try and download a known GPU-stressing benchmark such as Furmark and if it causes the same thing to happen, look into getting your PSU checked out.
edit: provided link to Furmark
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Lord Hamilton1
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:36:00 -
[196]
I'm very happy with my new look thanks very much for the chance to have a makeover. Pi interface is great, problem is I don't have a clue how I'm going to tell my corp that pos fuel production is going to have to stop while I work out all the new numbers. Can we have a specific thread made for people struggling with the new variations of PI and how best to go about changing there set ups to optimise production. The new power hungry ECU'S have thrown a spanner into the works and looks like I have to rebuild my whole set up after spending 80 mill isk on the first 6 planets I did.
Regards a confused Corp Pos Fuel producer
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Jitorius
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:38:00 -
[197]
Thanks for finally implementing a "Do you really want to cancel your market order, having invested millions of ISK in broker fees?". A bit late, but working now ;)
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Seppu Kiri
Amarr GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:40:00 -
[198]
The new character creator looks good. Real good. Not as many choices as I was hoping for, but I am hoping for us to be able to change certain aspects of our characters in the future.
More hairstyles and clothing would be nice. The old clothing choices were so varied and unique. There were more normal looking clothes that resembled military uniforms, and then there were more interesting choices, like helmets, facemasks, etc. I was really hoping to put my Khanid male back into his space samurai armor.
The idea of having multiple layers of clothing is really cool, but it's hard to create something truly unique when you only have 3 styles of jackets, and a 2-3 color choices per style to choose from.
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Caiman Graystock
Caldari Massively Mob
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:40:00 -
[199]
Character creator works great, but I can't believe Deteis don't have a black hair option. WTF.
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Lord Hamilton1
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:42:00 -
[200]
You don't need several extractors anymore. A single extractor is able to collect several resources, you've just missed how to do it.
That makes perfect sense now best help I've had looking at 300,000 posts on the matter.
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Never Mri
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:42:00 -
[201]
Suggestion: Everyone should get to update their character picture every X months, like a neural remap.
The Char Creator should be upgraded with new options, like tattoos, scars, hair color, ability to smile or sneer etc, clothes, more extreme facial features, (bigger noses, jaws, foreheads, eyebrows etc) and give another portrait remap after that is done.
The Character Creator is cool. It has a lot of potential, but its very limited at this time. I've created and discarded dozens of portraits on SISI and have yet to be able to get one I like.
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Lolmer
Amarr Merciless Reckoning
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:43:00 -
[202]
EVE Gate does not seem to be working, sometimes I get a 503, sometimes the page loads, but many of the features give this error: "Sorry, an error has occurred while processing your request."
Example pages giving the above error:
Example of pages which do work:
I have not logged in with the updated client yet, if that matters.
Also, I have installed the EVE Voice Vivox plug-in (using Google Chrome 8 in Windows 7 64-bit here), but the Eve Voice page loads and provides no options or channels to connect to.
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Alfred Mahan
Caldari Task Force 42
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:44:00 -
[203]
can I haz old portrait back?
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Zarak1 Kenpach1
Aperture Harmonics K162
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:44:00 -
[204]
Edited by: Zarak1 Kenpach1 on 18/01/2011 19:44:40 I know ccp probably didn't intend it this way. But, it feels somewhat wrong that the only group in game that can be made black using the new character skin creator is the minmatar which are former slaves.
I really hope you all didn't do that on purpose otherwise you got some really racist devs. And some lost business...
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Xestu's Mom
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:46:00 -
[205]
Thank you CCP for more unfinished and unwanted content. Char creation is garbage, what ive seen of incursions on SiSi is more garbage. Dust will be the centerpiece on top of this pedestal of garbage you have spun eve into over the last 6 months...In short, xbox live thanks you for my resubscription to THEIR services.
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Pantorus Necraliss
Minmatar Giza'Msafara
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:47:00 -
[206]
Originally by: Roc Wieler - no tattoos = suck - lack of clothing options = suck - lack of accessories = suck
I don't mind microtransactions with Incarna as long as it actually happens this summer. But before then, I definitely need my tattoo.
(...) I'm sure this will be a hot topic at Fanfest for many.
This +100
And allow Minmatars to stay barefoot !!!
-------------------------------------------------- La Giza'Msafara recrute, entrez dans une corporation au background solide. Venez nous dTcouvrir |
Valuial
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:52:00 -
[207]
Edited by: Valuial on 18/01/2011 19:54:26
Originally by: Xestu's Mom Thank you CCP for more unfinished and unwanted content. Char creation is garbage, what ive seen of incursions on SiSi is more garbage. Dust will be the centerpiece on top of this pedestal of garbage you have spun eve into over the last 6 months...In short, xbox live thanks you for my resubscription to THEIR services.
Dust? oh come on, i hope for ccp that it will never happen, releasing a fps on an already half-dead console where BF2 is ruling... if this ever happen, i wonder how they gonna do when psn will be closed...
edit: off topic but quite "instructive" about ccp style, full of idea, but hell, irl is rude.
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Wengole
Red Sky Morning
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:53:00 -
[208]
CCP,
Character creator - meh. Not really that interested to be honest, but would be nice to let us re-redo them once it's finished.
New shortcut system - OMFG !!! AWESOME !!! Been using it for 5 minutes and it already feels like second nature. Well done.
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Maximillian Brion
Minmatar Rigel Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:56:00 -
[209]
Alright, so, I'll just skip the rant about how underwhelming our free visit to the plastic surgeon turned out to be. :p Its nice and all, but put some more content into that thing...
Now onto more important things... where are the contract system updates? Can we atleast get an explanation why they weren't implemented... --- The only good Amarrian is a DEAD Amarrian... |
Catari Taga
Centre Of Attention Middle of Nowhere
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Posted - 2011.01.18 20:00:00 -
[210]
Originally by: Alicina Goodbody Cross posted from this morning's whine fest thread:
There was no need to change a basic key combo to exit the game.
To get back your <ctl>Q exit:
1. escape 2. Shortcuts panel 3. General sub-panel 4. select Quit game
That will only work for when you are logged in, at the login screen you are now forced to use the new combo
Also nice is Ctrl+Shift+D, which is assigned to the dungeon editor and cannot be revoked since ... shocker ... there is no dungeon editor. --
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Tercius
Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2011.01.18 20:01:00 -
[211]
When looking at the first stage of PI reworking, I am noticing that something is nerfed or broken here.
2 extractor heads on survey show 13516 units/hr, 310,890 units before hitting start program. After hitting start, those numbers changed to 12,152 per hour and 287,790 total.
When looking at the storage facility, I show an incoming number of 7434 units. That is almost 1600 less than the minimum I need to run the 3 factories there. Which, is a great deal less than what I was previously extracting as well. :-(
All of this was done on a 23hr timeframe, so as to mirror what work I did prior to the patch?
Why am I getting different numbers between survey and starting the program? Is this intended or broken in some way?
Also, where does that 7434 units incoming to the storage facility come from? It does not match anything from the extractor or its heads?
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Dave Day
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2011.01.18 20:04:00 -
[212]
Originally by: Zarak1 Kenpach1 Edited by: Zarak1 Kenpach1 on 18/01/2011 19:44:40 I know ccp probably didn't intend it this way. But, it feels somewhat wrong that the only group in game that can be made black using the new character skin creator is the minmatar which are former slaves.
I really hope you all didn't do that on purpose otherwise you got some really racist devs. And some lost business...
If that's the case then i'm sure it's unintentional but as always those who want to take offence will I'm sure do so.
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Never Mri
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Posted - 2011.01.18 20:04:00 -
[213]
Originally by: Joss56
Originally by: Never Mri I had a Planet that, after some tweaking could comfortably extract 4 resources. Those were processed into Processed Materials, and the output processed once more to make a Specialized Commodity... Transcranial Microcontrollers. I even had a few extra basic industry processors.
But no more. Even with an Elite Command center, I simply can't get a 4th Extractor Control Unit running. I don't have the powergrid to add a single head unit to it. (The other 3 only run 1 head unit, and I've eliminated all extra industry and storage.)
...
You don't need several extractors anymore. A single extractor is abble to collect several ressorces, you've just missed how to do it.
I'm still missing how to do it... It might be very intuitive, but I'm just not finding it. Please give a hint.
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Teh Minez0r
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Posted - 2011.01.18 20:05:00 -
[214]
Originally by: Sirinda Er...weren't you supposed to improve PI? I was able to manufacture single-planed P3 products before the change with level 3 CCs, now I can't even fit a third ECU, not to mention a fourth!
agree, the extractors take too much power from ground as the extractor heads self use power aswell. Therefore the storage facilities r still useless, using a spaceport instead doubles the storage capacity while u never ever reach the CPU limit. What about 2600 CPU load for an extractor instead of 2600 power? would make more sense imho anyway as the extractor itself is the "brain" while the extractor heads are the tools...
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Rath Kelbore
Waste Management.
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Posted - 2011.01.18 20:07:00 -
[215]
Originally by: Illadelph Justice (cross posting from the issues thread because i thought i was posting in the feedback thread)
i'd make the suggestion that CCP does what it can to fix the known issues that are identified, and when they feel that they've fixed it to the best of their ability, they give players the option of redoing their portraits a few weeks from now. it seems a lot of people are unhappy with what they've created mostly because they did not understand the functionality of the character creator.
i myself have not tried it yet, I still have 4 hours of work to go before i download the update. wish me luck.
just a suggestion.
QFT and good luck
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Janne Gear
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Posted - 2011.01.18 20:12:00 -
[216]
Originally by: Never Mri
Originally by: Joss56
Originally by: Never Mri I had a Planet that, after some tweaking could comfortably extract 4 resources. Those were processed into Processed Materials, and the output processed once more to make a Specialized Commodity... Transcranial Microcontrollers. I even had a few extra basic industry processors.
But no more. Even with an Elite Command center, I simply can't get a 4th Extractor Control Unit running. I don't have the powergrid to add a single head unit to it. (The other 3 only run 1 head unit, and I've eliminated all extra industry and storage.)
...
You don't need several extractors anymore. A single extractor is abble to collect several ressorces, you've just missed how to do it.
I'm still missing how to do it... It might be very intuitive, but I'm just not finding it. Please give a hint.
Decommission all your old extractors. Place a new one, submit, open extractorhead and hit Survey, choose a resource to extract, the time to run and set 1 to 10 extractor heads (the blue dots)... figure the rest out yourself, like I did :)
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Eeio
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Posted - 2011.01.18 20:12:00 -
[217]
Thanks to CCP for my new Village People / Space Pimp look. Love it.
What is up with my retriever tho? Someone came by and plated it in pure gold or what?
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Shiroi Ookami
Amarr Abyss Walkers
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Posted - 2011.01.18 20:14:00 -
[218]
Originally by: Never Mri I had a Planet that, after some tweaking could comfortably extract 4 resources. Those were processed into Processed Materials, and the output processed once more to make a Specialized Commodity... Transcranial Microcontrollers. I even had a few extra basic industry processors.
But no more. Even with an Elite Command center, I simply can't get a 4th Extractor Control Unit running. I don't have the powergrid to add a single head unit to it. (The other 3 only run 1 head unit, and I've eliminated all extra industry and storage.)
It feels like someone decided that I had it too easy. And that nobody should be allowed to make Specialized Commodities without carrying stuff from planet to planet.
So, as bad as I feel about that. Why do I feel just as bad that I can't make a new profile picture with bright red hair anymore? Did the universe run out of red hair dye?
Totally agree about the PI statement have the same issue. PI is ruined compliantly now. At least they could of made 2 programs per extractor control unit so we could mine 4 materials using 2 extractor control units but no :) they had to make it more convenient for us Less clickage :). I am were disappointed by this dis-balancing decision from CCP side. to be honest I would rather click a lot more, the fly around thous scattered planet hauling materials and wasting even tens of time more time on this hauling "fun". i sincerely hope they shall make changes once again to this system on the next patch to the better more balanced mining side. Because atm i guess lots of people wont even gonna bother and will stop using PI for now do to changes made.
What goes for the avatars i am not that negative as the rest of the forum :) i think that the only thing which was missing was the variejaty of clothing and accessory's , tattoos.
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Gemberslaafje
Vivicide
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Posted - 2011.01.18 20:15:00 -
[219]
Originally by: Alicina Goodbody MUST we character create?
I think I prefer to be a black outline for the rest of my days in EVE.
Can't wait to see what the non-character created toon shadow looks like moving around in Incarna.
Not yet, It will be mandatory in the near future, though. ---
Creator of the Eve Character Appraiser/Assembler: http://gemblog.nl/skill/ http://gemblog.nl/assembler/
Originally by: De'Veldrin Welcome to the ****ing sandbox
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Unmerciless
Minmatar Cadre Assault Force
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Posted - 2011.01.18 20:16:00 -
[220]
New shortcuts = awesome!!!! Char. Creator = Ok! Rest = Idk.
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zcar300
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.01.18 20:16:00 -
[221]
Pro: - The texture quality of the faces looks awesome. Seriously. - Mining mass amounts of one or two materials from a single planet now takes a lot less clicking.
Con: - Scaring and other settings only effect the face. Not even the neck which is visible in our permanent portrait. - Accessories visible in the permanent portrait are none existent. - Only a few types of cloths. I understand we wont see most of the cloths until Incarna. But you can see shirts and outerwear in our permanent portraits. There are more players in EVE then people in Iceland but we all wear the same shirts and hair dues when getting our pilots license. Please give us the option to take new portraits in Incarna. Not resculpt faces, just take new pictures.
- Higher power requirements for extraction means less materials extracted which in turn means higher prices. Small Corps, who already struggle to pay for POS's will suffer. Especially when Dust comes around.
EVE_ONLINE\Software\CCP\excellence:Enable 0
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Ryanna Sahrvul
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Posted - 2011.01.18 20:18:00 -
[222]
Originally by: Joss56
Originally by: Never Mri I had a Planet that, after some tweaking could comfortably extract 4 resources. Those were processed into Processed Materials, and the output processed once more to make a Specialized Commodity... Transcranial Microcontrollers. I even had a few extra basic industry processors.
But no more. Even with an Elite Command center, I simply can't get a 4th Extractor Control Unit running. I don't have the powergrid to add a single head unit to it. (The other 3 only run 1 head unit, and I've eliminated all extra industry and storage.)
It feels like someone decided that I had it too easy. And that nobody should be allowed to make Specialized Commodities without carrying stuff from planet to planet.
So, as bad as I feel about that. Why do I feel just as bad that I can't make a new profile picture with bright red hair anymore? Did the universe run out of red hair dye?
You don't need several extractors anymore. A single extractor is abble to collect several ressorces, you've just missed how to do it.
Could anyone perhaps explain how this is done? or at the least put a link to a site that DOES explain it? because right now I am really fustrated with these new PI changes, I already had to transport stuff from planet to planet to make this work but now it is just ridiculous.
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Gemberslaafje
Vivicide
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Posted - 2011.01.18 20:20:00 -
[223]
I think we'll get some leeway around Incarna. In fact, it could be that any clothes change in Incarna would be reflected in your character portrait - Taking a new 'picture' and sending it to the hamsters to sex up with high-res lightmaps and whatever shouldn't really be a problem.
DISCLAIMER: I am not a Dev. I have, however, played this game for over 2 years, and in the end, we're paying them. This means they'll have to keep us happy, and I think they will. ---
Creator of the Eve Character Appraiser/Assembler: http://gemblog.nl/skill/ http://gemblog.nl/assembler/
Originally by: De'Veldrin Welcome to the ****ing sandbox
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Akor Flandres
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Posted - 2011.01.18 20:22:00 -
[224]
where are the new forums wtf did i miss something
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zcar300
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.01.18 20:22:00 -
[225]
Originally by: Janne Gear
Originally by: Never Mri
Originally by: Joss56
Originally by: Never Mri I had a Planet that, after some tweaking could comfortably extract 4 resources. Those were processed into Processed Materials, and the output processed once more to make a Specialized Commodity... Transcranial Microcontrollers. I even had a few extra basic industry processors.
But no more. Even with an Elite Command center, I simply can't get a 4th Extractor Control Unit running. I don't have the powergrid to add a single head unit to it. (The other 3 only run 1 head unit, and I've eliminated all extra industry and storage.)
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You don't need several extractors anymore. A single extractor is abble to collect several ressorces, you've just missed how to do it.
I'm still missing how to do it... It might be very intuitive, but I'm just not finding it. Please give a hint.
Decommission all your old extractors. Place a new one, submit, open extractorhead and hit Survey, choose a resource to extract, the time to run and set 1 to 10 extractor heads (the blue dots)... figure the rest out yourself, like I did :)
This does not let you extract more then on type of material with one extractor control unit.
One extractor unit = One material extracted .
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Never Mri
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Posted - 2011.01.18 20:22:00 -
[226]
Edited by: Never Mri on 18/01/2011 20:23:32
Originally by: Janne Gear
Originally by: Never Mri
Originally by: Joss56
Originally by: Never Mri I had a Planet that, after some tweaking could comfortably extract 4 resources. Those were processed into Processed Materials, and the output processed once more to make a Specialized Commodity... Transcranial Microcontrollers. I even had a few extra basic industry processors.
But no more. Even with an Elite Command center, I simply can't get a 4th Extractor Control Unit running. I don't have the powergrid to add a single head unit to it. (The other 3 only run 1 head unit, and I've eliminated all extra industry and storage.)
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You don't need several extractors anymore. A single extractor is abble to collect several ressorces, you've just missed how to do it.
I'm still missing how to do it... It might be very intuitive, but I'm just not finding it. Please give a hint.
Decommission all your old extractors. Place a new one, submit, open extractorhead and hit Survey, choose a resource to extract, the time to run and set 1 to 10 extractor heads (the blue dots)... figure the rest out yourself, like I did :)
Yeah.. I think I know what the problem is. I was stuck on trying to extract the resources simultaneously, like I did yesterday. So I was looking for a way to make one head extract Base Metals, and another extract Noble Metals.
From now on, I'll need to cycle them. Log on, extract Base Metals for X hours, then {when that cycle ends} reset it to Extract Noble Metals for the next cycle, and so on. Edit{}
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Sovetskii Rosisski
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Posted - 2011.01.18 20:23:00 -
[227]
Ok, who the hell moved the dock option, and can we move it back.
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Isidore Tailleur
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.01.18 20:23:00 -
[228]
Edited by: Isidore Tailleur on 18/01/2011 20:24:57 This looks like less polished then some alpha releases I have seen...
New features are just getting worse and worse ...
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Star Searchers
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Posted - 2011.01.18 20:24:00 -
[229]
Hey there CCP, I think people are being generally unfair, the immense load that there must be on the toon creator while everyone of us is trying to fiddle around with making ourselves look like something that we will never be, it took me 3 hours to make this toon, I have found it very hard to work the system as the frame rate is terribly slow, jumpy and dam right annoying, please could we have sometime to practice with these changes before we are stuck with looks that we have to live with for the remainder of our time with eve? as for game play and changes there, I haven't got that far yet. CCP you have done an amazing job with the deployment time and the updates were very much appreciated, go out get drunk raise a cheer and then come back tomorrow and start helping us sort this all out. Thanks Guys and Gals this is a very ambitious expansion I for one have faith that it will be awesome.
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Onnen Mentar
Murientor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.01.18 20:27:00 -
[230]
Oh my..
I'm actually laughing at how sad the user experience of the new character creator has been.
Not even a confirm box when you hit "save" to tell people in very clear terms what exactly the consequences will be! or just can't decide
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Sovetskii Rosisski
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Posted - 2011.01.18 20:27:00 -
[231]
Originally by: Sovetskii Rosisski Ok, who the hell moved the dock option, and can we move it back.
Other than that, not bad. No major issues.
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Shianno
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Posted - 2011.01.18 20:28:00 -
[232]
I would also like the Dock option back to where it was.
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Alicina Goodbody
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Posted - 2011.01.18 20:30:00 -
[233]
Originally by: Gemberslaafje
Originally by: Alicina Goodbody MUST we character create?
I think I prefer to be a black outline for the rest of my days in EVE.
Can't wait to see what the non-character created toon shadow looks like moving around in Incarna.
Not yet, It will be mandatory in the near future, though.
Then we should be able to set the portrait lighting to 0.
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Gemberslaafje
Vivicide
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Posted - 2011.01.18 20:33:00 -
[234]
Originally by: Alicina Goodbody
Originally by: Gemberslaafje
Originally by: Alicina Goodbody MUST we character create?
I think I prefer to be a black outline for the rest of my days in EVE.
Can't wait to see what the non-character created toon shadow looks like moving around in Incarna.
Not yet, It will be mandatory in the near future, though.
Then we should be able to set the portrait lighting to 0.
It'll get better... I'm just happy I'm not a CCP dev or I'd be crying by now... or more likely just ignoring the forums - which most of them do anyway. But I understand.
Originally by: Shianno I would also like the Dock option back to where it was.
I just wished they'd stop moving stuff to begin with... We were used to the damn menus :P ---
Creator of the Eve Character Appraiser/Assembler: http://gemblog.nl/skill/ http://gemblog.nl/assembler/
Originally by: De'Veldrin Welcome to the ****ing sandbox
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RobW1
Caldari Iyen-Oursta Salvage
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Posted - 2011.01.18 20:36:00 -
[235]
How do I access the new NEOCOM talked about here :
http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=831
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Sirinda
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Posted - 2011.01.18 20:36:00 -
[236]
Originally by: Never Mri Edited by: Never Mri on 18/01/2011 20:23:32
Originally by: Janne Gear
Originally by: Never Mri I'm still missing how to do it... It might be very intuitive, but I'm just not finding it. Please give a hint.
Decommission all your old extractors. Place a new one, submit, open extractorhead and hit Survey, choose a resource to extract, the time to run and set 1 to 10 extractor heads (the blue dots)... figure the rest out yourself, like I did :)
Yeah.. I think I know what the problem is. I was stuck on trying to extract the resources simultaneously, like I did yesterday. So I was looking for a way to make one head extract Base Metals, and another extract Noble Metals.
From now on, I'll need to cycle them. Log on, extract Base Metals for X hours, then {when that cycle ends} reset it to Extract Noble Metals for the next cycle, and so on. Edit{}
So much for "fewer clicks". Now you get to reposition your extraction heads and tweaking the cycle. Sounds in no way tedious and overcomplicated.
And to think I was even looking forward to the changes.
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Hidden Snake
Caldari Empire Assault Corp Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2011.01.18 20:40:00 -
[237]
automatic update is not working again
all my settings are ****ed up again.
thank u dear CCP ... have to download again.
Can u make something right?
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Kithia De'Rau
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Posted - 2011.01.18 20:41:00 -
[238]
Not happy with the 'grace period on portraits' I made an avatar and hit done after playing with the pictures. come to see that again, it looks horrible when made small. Cant go back and play with the portraits as the patch notes make it seem like you can since you cant save the avatar for viewing and go back to it! once you have an avatar you like you have to hit save or you don't have the avatar you just spent so much time one. that is not the description given in the patch notes.
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Gemberslaafje
Vivicide
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Posted - 2011.01.18 20:42:00 -
[239]
Originally by: Hidden Snake automatic update is not working again
all my settings are ****ed up again.
thank u dear CCP ... have to download again.
Can u make something right?
If we all cancel our subscription and start playing WoW...
CCP would die and I would be bored to shyt cause I wouldn't be able to laugh at all the whiners all the time. ---
Creator of the Eve Character Appraiser/Assembler: http://gemblog.nl/skill/ http://gemblog.nl/assembler/
Originally by: De'Veldrin Welcome to the ****ing sandbox
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Fuyu'no Kiri
Beauvoir-Bourdieu
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Posted - 2011.01.18 20:45:00 -
[240]
No more cumbersome and tedious shortcut editor could have been devised.
Not being able to select multiple entries at once + no possibility to use just the suppr key to remove one key = a lot of mouse travel and wasted time.
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kombatant62
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Posted - 2011.01.18 20:47:00 -
[241]
What happened with remote changing buying orders?
I can't now change them from other system, It says :: remote bid range - limited to station. Is this bug, or I need train now some new skill?
And another thing - I don't like Dock in bottom of menu.
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Gilgamoth
Eldritch Storm The Matari Consortium
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Posted - 2011.01.18 20:51:00 -
[242]
+1 for unhappy with the new Character Creation
Where's my spiky hair and tattoo's? What happened to my Matrix style long leather coat with high collar?
Very Poor CCP, very poor.
Regards,
Gil ---
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IreeMan
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Posted - 2011.01.18 20:52:00 -
[243]
Lost skills, old ship setups and ships not where i parked them..
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Shazwa
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Posted - 2011.01.18 20:53:00 -
[244]
Please fix mac client, when opening then closing the ingame browser you get an unexpected exception with a debug box, it doesnt crash just annoying
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Fred Kyong
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Posted - 2011.01.18 20:56:00 -
[245]
Awesome! Best patch ever!
But, but... who urinated on the Retriever¦s? They are yellow!!!!
HELP
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Graham O'Connor
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.01.18 20:57:00 -
[246]
Charactor creator is really a disappointment! So limited! It is hardly possible to recreate the look of the charactor one has identified with for such a long time. To limited in hair styles, to limited in clothing, amazingly limited in every aspect!
I also created four portraits showing different moods, hoping to be able to use them ingame somehow, now I am stuck with the one portrait that I definitely did not want to look at for the rest of my time.
Give us a chance to recreate the portrait or to switch between the four portraits.
Altogether this charactor creator was a pretty bad joke. Cancel-Subscription-kind of a bad joke!
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ivar R'dhak
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Posted - 2011.01.18 20:59:00 -
[247]
Actually liked the creator very much, but the dearth of options left a sour note.
Especially the unavailable basic tattoos for the Matari. This ISN¦T an optional vanity item for them. Your own friggen backstory explains it even: Ray of Matar
Guess instead of heeding your own lore it¦s more important to drive up PLEX costs for the coming "vanity" items, so the RMTs make even more profit. ______________ Mal-¦Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-`Big damn heroes, sir.` Mal-¦Aint we just.¦ |
Mecinia Lua
Galactic Express The Spire Collective
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Posted - 2011.01.18 21:00:00 -
[248]
You need rethink the power/cpu requirements of PI.
Presently if it remains as it is prices for PI goods will skyrocket and anything produced from them will skyrocket due to lost prices. While you might think you'll get more into doing this and surely those that's been waiting will attempt it, long term what you've created is little different than what we had. Instead of a click fest, you have to change and move the heads to make goods now on a planet often, in addition you will have to import/export more, which actually means more time doing PI for less results based on various friends and others work so far.
Thoughts expressed are mine and mine alone. They do not necessarily reflect my alliances thoughts.
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Baldie Blad
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Posted - 2011.01.18 21:00:00 -
[249]
My comments on the Character Creator.
Positive 1. The general method of sculpting your character in the new version is great. Grabbing and dragging is much better than sliders. 2. They look amazing. In some shots, certain parts look like a real photograph.
Negative 1. The amount of difference between max and min on some adjustable body parts is negligible. 2. The number of adjustable zones, especially on the face, is smaller than I would like 3. The variety of hairstyles, especially for men, is very lacking. We should be able to sculpt the hair like we can the body. 4. Referring to my first positive comment, getting rid of the sliders for body forming was great. It allows for much easier manipulation. But then for the more detailed options (hair, hair color, eyes, etc.) we are forced to choose from a small number of preset choices. Why can't I have pink hair if I want? Do they not have hair dye? 5. While I understand why there is a relatively small number of clothing choices (I've read allusions to being able to create clothes in game in the future) The huge lack of 'accessories' (tattoos, jewelry, etc) sucks. All races/bloodlines should be able to adorn their bodies however they want. If my amarrian female wants a pierced eyebrow then she should be able to do so.
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Turix
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.01.18 21:04:00 -
[250]
Edited by: Turix on 18/01/2011 21:04:21
Originally by: cosmiclown
Quote:
COMMIT TO EXCELLENCE. STOP RELEASING UNFINISHED CONTENT.
this
Give this man a cookie! __________________________
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Zanederp
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Posted - 2011.01.18 21:04:00 -
[251]
Edited by: Zanederp on 18/01/2011 21:04:54 Why can't I change my selected locked target with my left and right keys? (or up and down for people with vertical locked targets.)
Oops posted with the wrong character. Suppose it doesn't matter.
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lokota1
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Posted - 2011.01.18 21:09:00 -
[252]
ok i cannot go to character create is just hangs thier so i am playing as ablank character for now
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Amber Villaneous
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Posted - 2011.01.18 21:09:00 -
[253]
òShips which are jumping to a cynosural field located close to a starbase forcefield will now land at a slightly increased distance of up to 15km. This means that pilots will have a slightly increased travel time to get to safety within a starbase.
Are you ****in kiddin me? What, someone *****in about their supercaps not having enough time to make kills on POS's? Industrialist *****in they aren't selling enough JumpFreighters or Rorqs?
Rather than doing anything about AFK douchery let's just make it even better.
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Greig Hul
Ore Extraction Technologies
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Posted - 2011.01.18 21:09:00 -
[254]
What was the point of the character creation feedback thread(s) on the test server feedback forum? Every second post was about more assets, specifically around racial specific clothing and long hair for males....and really not a lot of that changed on that front...instead the interface was redone several times.
Why was the art department focused on "God Rays" and other useless rubbish, when everyone on SiSi was crying out for more assets in the character creator?
As it stands I have absolutely no hope of getting a new character that anywhere near approaches my old character in appearance.
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ZegTheBrick
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2011.01.18 21:11:00 -
[255]
I don't want to get bogged down reading the whole thread (I get absorbed easily and I'd rather do some other things tonight than just reading a forum), but as with so many other people, I want to get some thoughts (complaints heh...) off my chest.
New character creator... seriously. I'm with all the other people complaining about it. Obviously, it needed upgrading. It fits into future plans. But you seriously can't have thought that having LESS options than the previous version would be acceptable. Yes it's just a face, in a video game. Yes when I made it 7 years ago, I had no idea it would be around for so long, or that I would care about it. But it's still mine. And now I've not even been able to come close to recreating it.
I fiddled around with the face for a while and got the bone structure of it vaugely similar (still just 'vaugely' though), but then go on to discover the only 'long' hair option is dreads. Well thanks alot. So thats already most of my characters style gone (I quite liked the smooth long-haired frenchness of it. Even though thats a random stereotype I have no reason for). No decent stubble. Clothes, not even close. No implant thingies for my forehead. I don't doubt that clothes especially will be microtransactioned through walking in stations though heh... uhg.
And then theres PI. I like the idea of making it a little more interactive. It was always my problem that once you had 'played the game' of setting up a colony as efficiently as possible, you didn't really do anything else thereafter. But this is still not an entertaining use of time.
Before you'd go through and double-click and install all the extraction cycles. Now you drag and drop. I guess CCP wins out on thier 'reduce the clickfest' plan (just barely, though if you want to alter the cycle times frequently you might still lose there), but I was kinda hoping they might try and make it fun, or interesting. And for this less clicks/more time, it seems like alot of people will be getting less resources.
It remains to be seen if the other complaints I've seen about PI in the test server feedback thread hold true (numbers not adding up, changing randomly, extraction depending on the characters skills rather than being able to scan hotspots with a trained alt), and also I guess how the markets for the PI stuff will turn out.
Okay I'm done. I could go on, but as I said at the start, I'm easily absorbed and I have been so just by typing all this heh.
Yes, these are my ships. Yes, I'm an empire hugging mission runner. Sig awaiting Graphics Update. |
Gravios
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Posted - 2011.01.18 21:13:00 -
[256]
So I had my Settings set to low for the first character generation on my main character. I read the warning and was like, ummm I have it set to high... and made the cahracter. For my alt, I checked to make sure they were high and they weren't. Is there a way to go back into my Char creator for my main? I like the new look and the new options, I would just like to recreate my character with the high settings to make sure that I get the details right...
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Gemberslaafje
Vivicide
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Posted - 2011.01.18 21:23:00 -
[257]
Old:
New:
Well, I might be not very picky, but I like my new me. ---
Creator of the Eve Character Appraiser/Assembler: http://gemblog.nl/skill/ http://gemblog.nl/assembler/
Originally by: De'Veldrin Welcome to the ****ing sandbox
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TheLostPenguin
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Posted - 2011.01.18 21:25:00 -
[258]
Seriously, you do realise this was the tq release build and not a sisi test build? Just you seem to have released pretty much the same char creator we had on sisi and that was going to be "awesome and much improved" when it hit tq, but it's pretty much the same, same irritating facial design system, same lack of cloths, same lack of facial features, same small selection of choices for stuff like eyees/skin color (ok that didnt even work on sisi, but I can't have been the only one that assumed the silly little thing with a handfull of near-identical colors was just a placeholder),same inability to create something that resembles what we had before.
Whilst many of the pictures that people are soming out with are impressive in terms of the detail in them, it's still a crying shame that the supposedly new and better system has been launched with a such a huge array of things we could do in the ancient system missing altogether, presumably to be added sometime SoonÖ in 2016
Also how about option to completely revert everything you changed in the ui at large back to how it was, with the exception of the promised addition of some kind of system to organise contacts with everything else you seem to have changed is change for changes sake that is forced on us and at best makes stuff stupidly more awkward to use (who thought putting Dock, probaly the joint MOST USED option on station context menu way down at the bottom was a good idea??) and at worst removes one of the best unique features of the ui, namely NOT having to opt to type text, why you think it's a good idea to remove one of the most sensible things you ever put into the client completely is beyond me, especially when it's so easy to just put a checkbox in esc menu to revert to using this system.
Still looking for something good anywhere in this whole release, about the only good thing to be said about it is the servers haven't been melted into oblivion so far, maybe staged releases like this to limit the fallout on any one day are the way you'll go in the future, at least the various bugs that don't seem to be "design decisions" aren't killers
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salvador enrinea
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Posted - 2011.01.18 21:28:00 -
[259]
CCP! Beautiful attempt... However, that being said... This is nothing like I had hoped for, with the crappy choices of clothing, hair, and the lag... It could REALLY use a nice patch... Thanks for the effort, but... it's a fail. :(
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Tux Tango
Minmatar Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.01.18 21:33:00 -
[260]
I dont like this new face i made. I look stupid. I look like an angry 10-year old with big sunglasses.
Am I stuck with this strange face forever now?
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DarthNefarius
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Posted - 2011.01.18 21:36:00 -
[261]
The character creator IS VERY BUGGY no tutorials the help doestn't help at all ( left click on character doesn't do crap on my PC ) It has frozen my computer 3 times I've wasted 2 hours on it and am VERY ****ed off.
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Zach Nazgul
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Posted - 2011.01.18 21:39:00 -
[262]
Oh god, where to begin on this one... The char creator is very, very laggy. Eve runs super smooth on this machine and that's with high settings, so that's pretty odd. But the more annoying bug I have now is, that when I use alt + tab... my screen p0ops rainbows, it's like a colour gangbang. I have to use ctrl + alt + del to restore it to normal again. This really requires a fix, or it becomes beyond a point it's comfortable to run eve and use the rest of my machines utilities...
Cheers, Zach
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Asp IV
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Posted - 2011.01.18 21:40:00 -
[263]
Period of grace...
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Nydia Winters
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Posted - 2011.01.18 21:41:00 -
[264]
My portraits are not even showing up for any of the 3 on the account so what now?
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Zeko Rena
Caldari Tankt
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Posted - 2011.01.18 21:41:00 -
[265]
Currently downloading patch, i see a lot of complaints but from what i see in the new avatar pictures on the forums some people have some dam cool looking avatars.
People who are complaining about clothing, mostly that there isn't enough of it, do you not remember an oldish video awhile back of walking in stations where one of the developers could change his clothing in his quarters threw a right click menu on a wardrobe or somthing.
Here is hoping at least in the future we will have more access too clothing in game, i wouldn't be surprised if they add some sort of plastic surgery store in stations as well allowing you to change your avatar for an in game fee.
I admit i think its a shame i wont be able to try to have my character how he was before but hopefully i will make him better :) --------------------------
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Kei Sune
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Posted - 2011.01.18 21:46:00 -
[266]
A general reset for the character creation screen would be appreciated. Having it show one thing then actually select another for the final product is not very helpful and will generally tick off customers than spent probably 15 minutes loading the creator, 5 minutes to 3 hours fiddling with the 1000 options, then are stuck with something they did not pick for the rest of their time spent on eve.
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JCache
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.18 21:48:00 -
[267]
It took some time, but I finally found something I really like about this patch... the new route display. Pretty compact and still all the functionality anyone could ask for. Ok, it can't be moved and is in a place where more important windows have to be, but still a great idea. Just make it movable like the targets and you really got something.
Still hate the frakkin' char editor though... Sig removed. Needs more EVE related content. Zymurgist |
mkmin
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Posted - 2011.01.18 21:48:00 -
[268]
Auto-loading portraits is fail. Every time local changes my client stutters. Any time someone says something in any chat, my client stutters. I don't care what random strangers spamming Jita look like. I don't even really care what most of my clients look like. Especially not to the extent of them affecting client performance.
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Caiman Graystock
Caldari Massively Mob
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Posted - 2011.01.18 21:49:00 -
[269]
Originally by: Kei Sune A general reset for the character creation screen would be appreciated. Having it show one thing then actually select another for the final product is not very helpful and will generally tick off customers than spent probably 15 minutes loading the creator, 5 minutes to 3 hours fiddling with the 1000 options, then are stuck with something they did not pick for the rest of their time spent on eve.
You're allowed to submit a petition to get another chance, do it.
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bOaStNdMoStN
Gallente NEW Euroengineering Arms Race HUNTER'S BROTHERHOOD
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Posted - 2011.01.18 21:50:00 -
[270]
lol i actually like the character creator.. guess im a small minority. Im A Proud EvE-Phein ! |
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captainbatmanawesome
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Posted - 2011.01.18 21:58:00 -
[271]
Wormholes don't work like they used to, they are now a solid entity that makes you bounce off them when you warp to zero.. ie orca flying 50km off of the hole @ 1km/s
wtf.
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Sergeant Marcus
Evoke. Ev0ke
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Posted - 2011.01.18 21:59:00 -
[272]
i like the char creator too
but there is a small bug ive seen, I cant see a setted Overview "Colortag" for Neutrals!
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Turelus
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2011.01.18 22:00:00 -
[273]
The more I look into this the more and more of a joke the Deteis options seem to be...
They have no black hair, they are the ONLY bloodline not to have it and it was only removed in the last couple of version on SISI. Why? When did you choose to remove it and for what reasons? how did it help make players happy or improve the game for anyone? (instead you now have those players who had it pre-patch like myself ****ed off and *****ing everywhere)
For their "TOPOUTER" they have two options while Amarr have the exact same clothing but with five colours. How hard would it be to give the same clothes to the Deteis if they already had them.
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Eaon Zlion
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Posted - 2011.01.18 22:00:00 -
[274]
clicked on the download tab 30 mins seemed pretty good, was still 30 mins about 10 mins ago
shame that there is not a torrent option in the downloads like what blizzard do with wOw
thanks for the heads up about saving the portrait being the final version ever :)
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Uzii Jay
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Posted - 2011.01.18 22:01:00 -
[275]
Originally by: Mijano My character wasn't of African descent prior to this new character animation. Sure, he did look like a ****ty motorcycle driver, but that's besides the point. I want to create a character that resembles me, and me being forced to create an African character doesn't give me that option. I have spent both time and money on this character. New as I am it may not be much, but I don't wish being forced to create a new character and wait until I get those 2m SP again.
Too True. If we had the option to choose a new race/gender/bloodline now for our main Characters now, the ONLY difference would be our look. Attributes wouldn't change, our positions wouldn't change, just our looks. And seeing as this is what the Character Creator was made for, I think CCP owe us that much. Might just make up for the complete lack of choice in the other departments in the creator, by giving us the option to use it in it's entirety.
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AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance
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Posted - 2011.01.18 22:04:00 -
[276]
Like what I see so far. Good job CCP. (I have the dark screen issue too, a fix on YOUR end would be nice.)
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PeHD0M
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Posted - 2011.01.18 22:12:00 -
[277]
I don't like it at all. - old sansha skins was better - old ore ships skins was better - old avatars was fine, i liked them - patch is full, of bugs
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Pod Amarr
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Posted - 2011.01.18 22:18:00 -
[278]
Originally by: Nijaza my avatar was finalized before i wanted it too. Really was hoping for a Are You Sure screen. Can i please have a redo????
Please give this man a redo I mean really that is a planet of the apes.
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Justinius Augustus
August Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.01.18 22:22:00 -
[279]
The character creator is amazing, despite some problems, like the lack of a single good male hairstyle.
There is a problem, though, of the server rendering some things differently than the client, and it isn't a graphics card issue. You should probably just automatically give everybody a do-over if they want it that expires, say, in a month. Otherwise, you're going to be handling a LOT of petitions.
Also, for a future update, you should send back the server rendered version of the portrait BEFORE the user commits to it.
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CaptMalReynolds
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Posted - 2011.01.18 22:25:00 -
[280]
In the character creator my guy had no hood, which is what I wanted. I worked long and hard to get him the way I wanted. I load up the game looks great. Log off log back in he suddenly has a hood on out of nowhere, which covers his entire face. Funny thing is in the log in screen he still does not have a hood. In game pics all show him with a hood. What's the deal?
Sent in a petition hopefully I can get this fixed because now he's even worse than my last char pic.
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DeftCrow Redriver
Gallente Best Path Inc.
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Posted - 2011.01.18 22:31:00 -
[281]
I personally liked the new character creator.
What I have problems with is the new hotkey functionality. While having new functionality is nice, it simply does not work like before. Prior to 1.1.0, you could issue a lock onto several targets within a second in rapid succession, but now it's impossible because there is a huge delay between pressing the hotkeys and actually getting it to work. Perhaps there is something wrong with the new hotkey code?
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Hardreign
Minmatar Murientor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.01.18 22:32:00 -
[282]
Bloodlines are ambiguous to the capsuleers of today.
Bloodlines have zero influence within the various mechanics of the EvE universe, they have no bearing upon which hulls you can fly, which hard wires you can install or anything (that would be relevant to a player) for that matter.
Which is all well and good, but I think the definition of the various bloodlines has come to a head with this release. CCP has made design decisions surrounding the racial physiology of these bloodlines in the same vein as J.R.R Tolkien. Who decided that the Rohan were fair haired and the men of Gondor were dark haired ...
Players have conveniently forgotten the mythology and history drawn up into the bloodlines of EvE. And to their merit I don't blame them, it doesn't have a bearing on any of the in-game mechanics. It may have been of some importance years ago ... but gamers have for the most part, have very short memories.
I for one thing the character creator looks to have immeasurable potential, but in being Brutor I do want the option for tattoos and scars. Hallmarks of the Brutor race ... Unite the tribes. Death to the Empress. |
Justinius Augustus
August Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.01.18 22:33:00 -
[283]
Originally by: CaptMalReynolds Funny thing is in the log in screen he still does not have a hood. In game pics all show him with a hood. What's the deal?
Not totally sure why they have it working this way, but the character selection screen continues to use the locally rendered version of your avatar for a little while. On the test server, it would usually flip over to the server rendered version after about a day, or maybe, simply, after downtime.
This is the kind of thing I was talking about above. What I've seen has been much more subtle (stuff like the eyeliner not rendering in the correct color). A hood appearing out of nowhere is one of the weirder things I've heard.
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Runeaway
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Posted - 2011.01.18 22:37:00 -
[284]
Went from a tough looking image to a pretty boy out of GQ. When can we edit these images?????
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Illyrian
Canadian Natural Resource LTD
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Posted - 2011.01.18 22:41:00 -
[285]
I have mixed feelings. I tried the creator when it was opened on SISI and really enjoyed it, but had to turn down my DPI on my mouse to better control the sculpting. TQ release, still seems to be the same and no new accessories and clothing and stuff. The only thing I'm really really QQing about is when I made 4 portraits. I picked the wrong one. Now my second Char is stuck with her ugly portrait and no way to change it other then using the paid service, if it's available for use on the new creator. I don't know what else to say. CCP has lost itself in the 7 half years I've been playing and lost touch with the players. Now it's more about money and pushing content out half finished it seems
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Solitudo Servantes
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Posted - 2011.01.18 22:42:00 -
[286]
Edited by: Solitudo Servantes on 18/01/2011 22:43:15 Guys...most of us cant remove neutrals from overview. You can uncheck them 1000 times if you want, neutrals still flying around in overview...overview is really bugged.
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Semiasas
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Posted - 2011.01.18 22:44:00 -
[287]
let us switch between the different pictures we took, im sure it wouldnt be that much work and alot of people would like that option for different days etc
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Dardanos Herakles
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Posted - 2011.01.18 22:50:00 -
[288]
I love how my character creation screen got even worse. It used to be a black screen or a floating head...Now I just see floating teeth. FAIL
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Commander Godsmack
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Posted - 2011.01.18 22:53:00 -
[289]
gratz for playing with your thorax watching that hamster **** CCP - the character creation what i was thinking to be the first order of business to get to turns into a big disappointment as the character creation wont load!!!!! the best i get is a black screen and now the last couple attempts at loading have caused my computer to crash.
And Im seeing though it doesn't work; from ppl's comments around here its not much to look forward to anyway since apparently you cant do much in the way of customizing your toons looks.
My vote on this expansion so far has to be -1
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Turelus
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2011.01.18 22:56:00 -
[290]
Originally by: Hardreign
Which is all well and good, but I think the definition of the various bloodlines has come to a head with this release. CCP has made design decisions surrounding the racial physiology of these bloodlines in the same vein as J.R.R Tolkien. Who decided that the Rohan were fair haired and the men of Gondor were dark haired ...
Tolkien didn't change his mind halfway through the book series though :P
Peoples complaints are not with the fact CCP has distinct features about the bloodlines it's that they have changed them now after we chose our characters. Instead of following what was already the basis of the characters and just making new versions of them they went and changed things and surprise upset a whole bunch of people.
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Masaki Kotozuya
Gallente Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2011.01.18 22:57:00 -
[291]
1) The clothes are terrible, and the texture of the T-shirts around the neck area is rendered bad and looks pixelated. - Fake.
2) If EvE Online will provide more clothes and costumes etc, will we be able to change them?
3) Why the hell sunglasses? This is a high-tech SciFi game, not GTA... And give us more choice of forms of sunglasses at least?
4) Give us possibility to recapture our portraits! - Due of lags many people including me, couldn't pose the character and just made a front looking portrait which is boring..
)We need more moustaches!
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Jussanguis
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Posted - 2011.01.18 23:02:00 -
[292]
For an MMO, this Character Creator is sub-par at best, a disaster at worst.
I thought the goal was to differentiate characters, instead we get 24 faces, 24 shirts, and like 20 haircuts with about 15 shades of brown and roughly 6 other colors. plus we're all the same height, and all have close to the same body type, no matter what we select for muscle/weight.
Also, the ONLY option for eye-ware are aviators that have BARELY noticeable differences in color.
The only black people are Brutor, which I find somewhat racist (black=tribal brute?).
Do all men of New Eden become Amarr when they get old?
Do any scars actually show up when I max out scarring? I can't see any.
Worst of all, I didn't know "save" meant "stuck for eternity" and it was only too late when I noticed my avatar looks like freakin' Jay Cutler!
Furthermore we don't have any use for the full body we designed, and I don't expect one from CCP for another 2 years or so. Thus our avatar is our portrait, and if that's all we get, I'd rather have my old portrait back.
Graphically it looks good, but there's almost no variety. CCP needs to learn that a green shirt/ship is still the same shirt/ship even if it's red. This character creator sucks! It's actually WORSE THAN BEFORE!!! Please please PLEASE make us a new one and do a better job this time. I pay a lot of money for this game and I was expecting better.
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Eeio
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Posted - 2011.01.18 23:05:00 -
[293]
Good lord.
If the biggest issue with this patch is something that have no effect on ingame play at all, I will consider this a success.
Love the new planet interaction mechanics, though I agree the power need for those extractor heads are a bit steep. This has nothing to do with new mechanics though, and could easily be changed in a patch.
Also I kinda like the new placement of the dock/undock option in the rightclick menu. Will take some getting used to, but once I do that, it will be nice to always know its at the bottom.
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Saphros
Minmatar Lone Gunmen Fate Weavers
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Posted - 2011.01.18 23:08:00 -
[294]
IÆve been around for almost 7 years now (yes IÆm ogrumpy!) so IÆve seen a few features implemented during that time û some really breathtaking, some shoddier then others.
When counting the less then great ones the new Character Creation is by far the most maladjusted one of them all. I will go so far as to call it a step back in the evolution of the EVE experience because thereÆs basically less customization of your character then before the patch.
Yes the character has different hair colour/style and clothes but thereÆs really nothing that gives the character an ounce of personality anymore in my point of view.
But all those new pixels and textures just look so damn good û right? Well IÆve spent a few hours trying my best at creating a new avatar for my character and no matter what configuration I use it still looks about the same (unless you go to the extreme and make a ******). ItÆs the same character whoÆs been at the hairdresser or perhaps aged 5-10 years.
All pictures from Sisi looked very promising but now when looking in local I feel a bit disturbed by all those clones looking back at me.
Maybe IÆm overreacting, or maybe this is the last nail in the coffin that people so often speak about because IÆm tired of seeing a game once so much appreciated deteriorate.
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Karl Axelman
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Posted - 2011.01.18 23:09:00 -
[295]
Ok, where's the lag? It was here before the patch, but someone forgot to include it in this version :)
Market is much faster to respond. Modules don't continue red for half a cycle when told to stop. Character sheet loads way faster, especially the standings tab. Scrolling through items while docked in station is much faster. Grid loads way faster when jumping thru gates.
Nice job CCP! +1
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Kreatus Lucina
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Posted - 2011.01.18 23:10:00 -
[296]
thanks for breaking my comp, it crashed almost immediately after downloading the update. still trying to get the client off my hard drive but it seams to have dropped anchor and isn't going anywhere. i hope you fix this soon.
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MGA
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Posted - 2011.01.18 23:11:00 -
[297]
my desktop turns and stays dark whenever i log on ... need to restart the computer to restore it.
is this a bug? how can i fix it?
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Lukessa Drake
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Posted - 2011.01.18 23:13:00 -
[298]
Not sure if anyone else noticed, but where the hell is the option for dark skinned/black characters? I had a Minmatar female that damn near look like me. She looked like a mix of black and white. Just. Like. Me. Now, I have five choices. Pale Pale white, Pale white, fair white, blushed white, and 5-minutes-under-a-tan-light white. Did Eve and CCP turn racist? I hope not. But if this is not fixed, and I mean damned soon, CCP will lose me as a customer. |
Dardanos Herakles
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Posted - 2011.01.18 23:15:00 -
[299]
Originally by: Eeio Good lord.
If the biggest issue with this patch is something that have no effect on ingame play at all, I will consider this a success.
Burt Reynolds is right, Good lord. :D
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Lolmer
Amarr Merciless Reckoning
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Posted - 2011.01.18 23:16:00 -
[300]
For the Mac client (OS X 10.6.6 32-bit, 2.53 GHz Intel Core i5, 4G RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M PCIe x16 256M), I cannot enable both Depth Effects and Anti-Aliasing are unmixable. You may only have one or the other enabled, but not both. This is not true for the Windows version (Windows 7 64-bit, same hardware).
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May O'Neez
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Posted - 2011.01.18 23:16:00 -
[301]
I'm almost pleased with the Character creator: nice stuff, even if we have to lose previous faces. However, some bloodlines changed quite and is it a bit disturbing, for example when you switch from caucasian to asiatic type (case for Vherokior).
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Vorqoth
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Posted - 2011.01.18 23:16:00 -
[302]
Edited by: Vorqoth on 18/01/2011 23:21:30
Originally by: Keitaro Baka I hoped the weeks we spent on sisi playing with and generally complaining about the new character creator would lead to a decent one on TQ.
Sadly I should should have known this would not be the case.
Losing the old characters is a real pain. Progress is fine, but I would have liked to been able to recreate my character if only similarly, but alas, you feel the character creator is fine now.
So what's lacking, imho:
- Hair styles. Hair colour. Hair lengths. More than 2 tones. More facial hair types for men, more hair bits for girls. - Implants, scars, marks, tattoos, bling. - Body type fat is not fat, thin is not thin and a little height adjustment might be nice? - Seriously, sunglasses, for my gallente male, but no reading glasses? Or a friggin' monocle? Wait sunglasses? You could have at least included a LaForge Visor or something, I'm cruising at warp speed with my sunglasses in my pod. Really? - Pick, sneakers or boots. Fine for certain chars, crap for others, more shoes, including decent businessmanlike loavers for all I care, just give us something. - Pants, same, needs some classy pants too. - How about dresses for all women? You need to wear pants? Always? Nice way of keeping all the surrounding imagery you guys like current. - Two, read it two top outer choices for one of my chars. Seriously, more. I don't WANT to microtransact those later, then have to pay again to get a character reshot. Really CCP, really? - Normal tops are too few too, all short sleeved so you look like a douche if you don't get a jacket or something. - Then there's the lights, no coloured lightst to at least give hair a different glow or something, it's just as if the entire character creator is a third year college design course project that's been rushed.
It is horrible.
At first I thought it was mostly to avoid weird looking characters, EvE trying to proof it's all mature and all, but then you get some of the chars ingame, and the sunglasses, and I just don't get it.
I've been through a lot these past 7 years with you guys, but really this one of three times I've just lost all my will to play this game, I just have some main characters which I can't remotely make look like I would like them to look. Good job and good job for listening to what we've been telling you on sisi.
I really hope you fix this pathetic excuse for a 'new character creator', if not fast at least well. For now I'll just click no every time.
+1
I can deal with the lack of clothes for now 'cause i recon we will be able to change them later in Incarna. But if we cant redo our photo and hair, then at least give us options damnit! Im one of the long haired Achuras thats being forced to either look like Elvis, bald, or mohawk. I dont want either of it, I want my long hair.
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Sybil War
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Posted - 2011.01.18 23:18:00 -
[303]
Edited by: Sybil War on 18/01/2011 23:19:36
Originally by: Runeaway Went from a tough looking image to a pretty boy out of GQ. When can we edit these images?????
bummer
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar Green-Core The Obsidian Legion
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Posted - 2011.01.18 23:20:00 -
[304]
You do not want my honest feedback in this thread. Because my honest feedback would make sailors and truckers both advise me to watch my language.
However, I will say this:
You screwed the pooch on the character races. Seriously screwed the pooch. Long hair options? Meh - sunglasses and hoods, not really my thing.
But when my character's features change so much that she's a completely separate racial subtype...sorry CCP, you dun ****ed up. --Vel
I'm more of a care-badger. |
Johan Civire
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Posted - 2011.01.18 23:20:00 -
[305]
What happend? please fixs this :/ can not login can not update it. Everything is broken i need isk i got a job to do. FIXS IT, Some day i will hunt you! |
Kityana Sverjie
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Posted - 2011.01.18 23:23:00 -
[306]
Edited by: Kityana Sverjie on 18/01/2011 23:23:48
Originally by: Dave Day
Originally by: Zarak1 Kenpach1 Edited by: Zarak1 Kenpach1 on 18/01/2011 19:44:40 I know ccp probably didn't intend it this way. But, it feels somewhat wrong that the only group in game that can be made black using the new character skin creator is the minmatar which are former slaves.
I really hope you all didn't do that on purpose otherwise you got some really racist devs. And some lost business...
Good point!
Also the only black characters are the primitive sounding Brutor Tribe. Who above all else value physical strength. It's actually hard for me to believe CCP aren't racist presented with all of this evidence. I mean COME ON!!! The BRUTE-OR!!?!?!? Not all black people are primitive tribesmen! We don't all descend from slaves and we aren't all bad-ass looking Jamaicans! Flattered as I am, some black people are skinny nerds. And SOME just happen to be intelligent, sci-fi loving IT guys who pay to play MMO's LIKE YOURS! There may not be black people in iceland, but come on CCP, get with it. This character creator sucks anyway.
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Rayterin
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Posted - 2011.01.18 23:24:00 -
[307]
I'm usually much more of a reader than a writer when it comes to the forms, however I must put my two cents in today. With all the tears in the forum today I was dreading getting home to see just how sorry the new character creator would be and kicking myself for just paying for a year's worth of eve time. Tears and bears go hand and hand it would seem. I found making my new toon be amazing and just wanted to say on behalf of all the peeps out there that loved it and don't post on the forums well done CCP for steps in the right direction. Simply pure awesome in a box, wrapped with epic, and tied with a big red ribbon of win.
Ray
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Lo Muth
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Posted - 2011.01.18 23:27:00 -
[308]
100% useless crap !
Wow ! I can get a nice pic now...i would give my right arm to the person whom can explain to me what benefit that does ??
Planetary use have been rendered completely useless....hope you guys roll back the old setup - i estimate that my production gone down with 40-50%.
Thx CCP !!!
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Daekov
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Posted - 2011.01.18 23:30:00 -
[309]
My experience with Incursion 1.1.0.
Initial announcement: Would've liked to see it sooner. Not the technical details, perhaps just a "we want to do this" kind of list. Maybe it was in a DevBlog I missed somewhere?
Release and download: Smooth, at the maximum speed my connection could provide.
The character creator: Great! Didn't have any performance or comprehension issues, everything was pretty straight-forward. Commendable UI layout of the whole editor, elegant and simple, not too complicated and therefore easy to 'get'. Lots of fun messing around with the face 'mesh'. Would've liked to be able to choose the race and bloodline again, or to be able to completely alter facial structure. More clothing options would've been great too.
Tops! Keep up the good work and service. :)
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Croakergimpy
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Posted - 2011.01.18 23:30:00 -
[310]
When I was using the Character Generator I was try to make my toon the way I wanted it, but while I was doing that I could only see his jaw. I added the hair and clothes but still could not see my characters face. I took a pic and saved it but was not ready to do so, but I did it hoping to see what it would look like. Will I be able to add some more features to my toon, because I am not happy with how the generator worked at this time. Please someone advise if I can redo my toon. Thanks
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Dardanos Herakles
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Posted - 2011.01.18 23:34:00 -
[311]
The Floating jaw of DOOM. I feel you bro.
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Sybil War
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Posted - 2011.01.18 23:35:00 -
[312]
Not that I'm fond of complaining about things, but on top of the random hood spawn of my guy what is with the baby puke yellow retriever, the baby poop brown Sansha's ship and the other ugly colors on the ore ships?
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Paladia Haberdash
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Posted - 2011.01.18 23:37:00 -
[313]
+1 for not enough clothes in the character creator
Also the fugly semi-transparent "window" around the system info and autopilot route. It looked better before the patch. Another CCP fail.
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CaptMalReynolds
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Posted - 2011.01.18 23:37:00 -
[314]
Originally by: Paladia Haberdash +1 for not enough clothes in the character creator
Also the fugly semi-transparent "window" around the system info and autopilot route. It looked better before the patch. Another CCP fail.
agreed I hate that too
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MGA
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Posted - 2011.01.18 23:42:00 -
[315]
anyone else having problems with desktop-brightness after eve has been started?
everything works fine in the game, just the brightness on the desktop is messed up!
something in the game seems to mess up the graphics-settings! i¦d love to get a fast statement on this issue!
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Mace Maddox
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Posted - 2011.01.18 23:45:00 -
[316]
I also like the character generator except you cant go back to do fine tuning or use another picture you made before.
Other than that, I want female char without pants or bra!
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Propoli
Minmatar When Fat Kids Attack
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Posted - 2011.01.18 23:47:00 -
[317]
Delivery - Great. Fast download and patched fine.
Content - Dull at best as per normal, however I don't expect anything else really. What have you done which can be called innovative in the past couple of years? Character Creator is a one time gimmick people will play around with when they make their character and that's it. You dig your own grave with people by proclaiming you are "making history" as you said in your dev blog, back it up with content. You had it but lost it somewhere along the way.
Bit harsh maybe, but I just think you disappear up your own arse sometimes with how great you think you are.
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Rakivic
Royal Black Watch Highlanders Warped Aggression
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Posted - 2011.01.18 23:49:00 -
[318]
Originally by: Propoli Bit harsh maybe, but I just think you disappear up your own arse sometimes with how great you think you are.
So that is CCP's problem
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Chiselhead
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Posted - 2011.01.18 23:50:00 -
[319]
I see nothing good with this new char re-creation. I'd like my old toons face back now thank you. Pi now totaly blows, somebody obviously never did any before, and now has it so screwed up I don't want to bother with it now, also thank you very much for messing things up, again, as usual. I thought you guys were going to fix some things before you moved on, I see a few things that didn't get fixxed, and now I see more things that are yes screwed up. Nice Job, NOT!!!
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Caspardian
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2011.01.18 23:52:00 -
[320]
After all the hype given to the character creator, I am really and truly disappointed at what we have been given.
Bland faces, bland clothing choices, and (for me at least) sculpting absolutely WILL NOT work. Period. Perhaps it's because I have a Mac? In any case, bravo, CCP... bravo.
Also, hair color choices. It was nearly impossible to get natural looking red hair, as the root choices were limited to black, darker black, and white. In addition, I can't have hair longer than shoulder length. Not that I want that for myself, but this is something I noticed and found ridiculous.
Also (perhaps I need to be able to sculpt to do this?) my character is a very serious man. He refuses to smile.
In any case, for all the time and effort put into this character creator, this is really and truly lackluster. And I haven't even opened up the game yet. I'm sitting on the character creation screen, trying to figure out how I can make my character even moderately acceptable to me.
I will admit, the new characters look way better than the old ones, but the new system actually feel even LESS customizable, were that possible. Again, perhaps it's because my goddamn sculpting tool won't work. - - - - - - And another one gone, and another one gone, another one bites the dust...
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AusTerror
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Posted - 2011.01.18 23:53:00 -
[321]
Character creation thingy is great!
Nice and easy to use. My character looks great!
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Facepalm McPhail
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Posted - 2011.01.18 23:58:00 -
[322]
My only criticism of the new character editor is that the Minmatar women do not have enough 'Junk in the Trunk"
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Drake Tega'pala
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Posted - 2011.01.19 00:08:00 -
[323]
Edited by: Drake Tega''pala on 19/01/2011 00:16:19 Edited by: Drake Tega''pala on 19/01/2011 00:10:35 So far I noticed that neutrals have no icon next to the nick name in local chat window, whatever how you set up your options.
And my main thing: I created my avatar as i waned to and later on it has changed. Instead of smooth face it looks like a guy overdosing alkohol for a long time ;)
Oryginal Avatar After Some Time
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Thelitos
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Posted - 2011.01.19 00:13:00 -
[324]
I quite loved it. Sure I could only test Caldari Deitis, but the character feels so alive and real, I really love the new character creation. My only issue is that I messed up my portrait, I think many people did. It came out poorly in the final result; and I clicked save assuming that I would be able to chose from the 4 snapshots at any time... I picked the worst one I had because it looked kinda funny, but I thought I'd be able to switch it as soon as I wanted to.
I sent a petition asking for another chance to re-do the portrait. I think CCP might have to do this for many people as its a new system and most didn't know what to expect, so yeah. My suggestion is, give everyone a second chance to re-create their character or at least re-do their portrait in a day or two.
Cheers
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Zeko Rena
Caldari Tankt
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Posted - 2011.01.19 00:16:00 -
[325]
Edited by: Zeko Rena on 19/01/2011 00:16:03 So patched now and re-made my main, i must say i really like how my guy turned out, but there is one thing that ****es me off.
I cant have black hair which i saw mentioned earlier by many people with my race/bloodline, but i am FORCED to have black eye brows, what the F, brown hair with black eye brows :(
Oh i have also logged into a black hanger with a hanger sound effect stuck on loop :) --------------------------
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Aleis
Minmatar Playboy Enterprises Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2011.01.19 00:18:00 -
[326]
Edited by: Aleis on 19/01/2011 00:23:24 Edited by: Aleis on 19/01/2011 00:21:54 Edited by: Aleis on 19/01/2011 00:21:00 Edited by: Aleis on 19/01/2011 00:19:35 Very unhappy with character gen. Not nearly enough options on everything.
I wasn't able to make anything at all like my previous avatar.
even back grounds were lacking, and it would be nice to have a bit of a "Are you Sure?" before your stuck with your picture
wasn't really ready just clicked the Next button and now i'm stuck
I want my Bright red background back.
I didn't want sunglasses but whats the deal with the 7 different versions of the same shades? Really if your going to have options give us options
Where's my Tattoos
Different color Lightings
A "what you used to look like" would have been nice as well. you know for consistency
Gang Assist Guide |
ctx2007
Minmatar Wychwood and Wells United Nations Intelligence Taskforces
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Posted - 2011.01.19 00:32:00 -
[327]
needed less clothes for the girls EVE is a game and a damn good one too |
Kerobani
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Posted - 2011.01.19 00:35:00 -
[328]
1) Bring back the capture portrait option. I'd like to see full size portraits after spending so much time on them.
2) Please make the characters stop swaying while they are being created, the movement makes small changes hard to see.
3) What happened to black people and tatoos? I miss both.
4) I like the portait creation screen after the creation section, especially the option to create four drafts before selecting a final one to use. Perhaps modify the selection so you can see and compare full-sized portatis before clicking accept?
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Nea Star
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Posted - 2011.01.19 00:38:00 -
[329]
Loving the char creator! :)
Sure it may lack more variation in clothes, hairstyles, tats and such..but overall it's a powerful tool, and I've seen some AMAZING chars out there.
..looking forward to further improvements!
+1
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Arcturus Fortescue
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Posted - 2011.01.19 00:43:00 -
[330]
Originally by: Lo Muth
Planetary use have been rendered completely useless....hope you guys roll back the old setup - i estimate that my production gone down with 40-50%.
Interestingly, mine seems to have gone up by 50% to 100%. Probably depends a lot on where and how you are doing PI-Stuff.
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simmi2
Caldari Chaos Rendering STR8NGE BREW
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Posted - 2011.01.19 00:45:00 -
[331]
Edited by: simmi2 on 19/01/2011 00:47:25 Before i start i never post on these forums but i feel the need to after todays events.
CCP you have made a very costly mistake today which i think will have repercussions for quite along time. You have grown as a company so fast you have lost touch with the players of this game. Alot of people didnt want a new avatar picture to start with they wanted fixs to the game already or more engaging content but instead you created this useless 0.5GB 'Patch' that the whole player base will use once per character but you created it with stupidly powerful graphics which people just dont have so cant enjoy how good the pictures look anyway!
You need to sack whoever agreed on the amount of detail on the new avatars! Yes you have said that this patch is paving the way towards Incarna but you have gone about it all wrong only keeping in mind the real Hardcore gamers that will have the graphics cards to use this new feature without sacrificing performance and all the award you will win for how good it looks. I think the playerbase has a duty to knock you down off your high horse and bring you back down to earth!
If you need proof that you messed up just read the comments on here i looked through 5 pages and people dont like what you have done at all! i cant comment on the sansha bit yet but i seriously hope more thought has gone into that than the avatars.
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Mars Theran
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Posted - 2011.01.19 00:46:00 -
[332]
Originally by: Imiarr Timshae Edited by: Imiarr Timshae on 18/01/2011 18:20:11
Entire Character Creation System looks rushed and generally unpolished
Character Creation :
1. No Black Hair.
2. COLOSSAL lack of clothing. (Are we going to have to pay real money to look good? Nice little earner CCP.) Do you want this shirt or.... this shirt?
3. Character Creator seems to be a body sculpting utility and little else. Alteration of all body parts is fluid and flawless. Only problem is we HAVE to dress them, thus we HAVE to look awful.
4. The guy I am trying to edit WILL NOT HOLD STILL.
5. Skin alterations including age/freckles/scars ONLY EFFECTS THE FACE. If we can see the neck of an unblemished twelve year old on an eighty year old man something is dangerously wrong.
Reccomended : DO NOT UPDATE YOUR CHARACTER - Wait until they fix it (Being released in another two years?)
CCP : Making ingame avatars more important in gameplay whilst also utterly limiting player choice in variation and style.
COMMIT TO EXCELLENCE. STOP RELEASING UNFINISHED CONTENT.
When you say black hair. what are you referring to exactly? I'm certain I had the option available to me in Beta; though, it may not be available for everyone, due to differences in racial traits.
Yes, I thought it was odd, the lack of consistency; with the skin complexion from face to body. I'm also aware, that you'll never see it on your character portrait; not in game at least. It might be noticeable from the login screen.
2 shirts? I'm pretty sure there are a lot more than that. So you don't like the clothing available; and you think it looks stupid? Have you noticed, that you have options to change the tuck of your shirts and pantlegs? Probably not.. I didn't see it the first time either. little arrows with 1-4 options for shirt to pants; and 1-2 options, for pants, to boots.
By the way, it's only visible from the chest up, as before; so it doesn't really matter at this stage anyway. In 6 month's, it may matter; but not before I think.
So he doesn't hold still? Who cares! Now you know how a barber feels. They're animated characters; not lumps of rock.
How did your characters avatar become more important in game? When they release Incarna, sure. This, is not Incarna; it is Incursion. Pre-Incarna, it's just a portrait; kind of like on your passport, or Drivers License. Think of it as your Pod-Pilot's License picture; so we know who the bad guy's are.
If you can't stop whining, shut it.
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Mars Theran
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Posted - 2011.01.19 00:48:00 -
[333]
Edited by: Mars Theran on 19/01/2011 00:56:14
Originally by: simmi2 Before i start i never post on these forums but i feel the need to after todays events.
CCP you have made a very costly mistake today which i think will have repercussions for quite along time. You have grown as a company so fast you have lost touch with the players of this game. Alot of people didnt want a new avatar picture to start with they wanted fixs to the game already or more engaging content but instead you created this useless 0.5GB 'Patch' that the whole player base will use once per character but you created it with stupidly powerful graphics which people just dont have so cant enjoy how good the pictures look anyway!
You need to sack whoever agreed on the amount of detail on the new avatars! Yes you have said that this patch is paving the way towards Incarna but you have gone about it all wrong only keeping in mind the real Hardcore gamers that will have the graphics cards to use this new feature without sacrificing performance and all the award you will win for how good it looks. I think the playerbase has a duty to knock you down off your high horse and bring you back down to earth!
And a lot of people did. Just because you don't want it; doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. I have some unkind words for you; which I shall keep to my self.
If you'd been paying attention to CCP's release notes, Dev Blog's, and the rest; you'd know that the portraits do little to affect your ingame performance. They're entirely inanimate, are server side; and are delivered through CCP's Content Delivery Service. They have also been reduced in actual detail; so they don't test your GPU, or cause your game to lag.
Sure, the Character Creater itself, might test your GPU; but you have settings for that. Use them. Your portrait might not be awesome, due to reduced graphical settings, used in the creation of your avatar; but you'll never notice, and likely, many people with the systems to handle it, won't either.
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Kerr avonn
Minmatar Standard By 10
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Posted - 2011.01.19 00:53:00 -
[334]
Originally by: AusTerror Character creation thingy is great!
Nice and easy to use. My character looks great!
Dude your toon looks ace, Lovin the blackness
Originally by: Drake Tega'pala
I created my avatar as i waned to and later on it has changed. Instead of smooth face it looks like a guy overdosing alkohol for a long time ;)
Dude looks like he sucked too many lemons
Im still at work atm and not looking forward to re-doing mine what with eveything I have read so far.
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salvador enrinea
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Posted - 2011.01.19 00:54:00 -
[335]
Originally by: Mars Theran
Originally by: simmi2 Before i start i never post on these forums but i feel the need to after todays events.
CCP you have made a very costly mistake today which i think will have repercussions for quite along time. You have grown as a company so fast you have lost touch with the players of this game. Alot of people didnt want a new avatar picture to start with they wanted fixs to the game already or more engaging content but instead you created this useless 0.5GB 'Patch' that the whole player base will use once per character but you created it with stupidly powerful graphics which people just dont have so cant enjoy how good the pictures look anyway!
You need to sack whoever agreed on the amount of detail on the new avatars! Yes you have said that this patch is paving the way towards Incarna but you have gone about it all wrong only keeping in mind the real Hardcore gamers that will have the graphics cards to use this new feature without sacrificing performance and all the award you will win for how good it looks. I think the playerbase has a duty to knock you down off your high horse and bring you back down to earth!
And a lot of people did. Just because you don't want it; doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. I have some unkind words for you.
yeaaaah... kinda excessive there pal... I wanted it.. just not like this.. as for "sack(ing)" whoever designed it... these are also the people that built the world that we play in... most games go through trial and error, so relax pal, they'll fix it.
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DONMEN SOLO
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Posted - 2011.01.19 00:55:00 -
[336]
Like the new character creator
Some explanation of the new PI system besides checking on SISI would have been nice ccp..
But it was self explanatory. Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match to a good blaster at your side |
Salamigurke
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Posted - 2011.01.19 00:56:00 -
[337]
After installing patch i immediately saw that every 30 seconds the CPU-throttle goes down (seen on my Logitech G-15 Keyboard) while at the same time the game screen hangs for two seconds. This happens nonstop and also in the Stations (exept in the start-screen for login, after login by the character-choose and in the in-game menu for gaphics/audio-settings). This is not good. My System is fine, if needed i can upload my specs. To mention is that i havent re-created my charcter yet, who knows maybe could have association. testing lower resolution and graphics detail...no difference.
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Skyreth
Gallente SOL Combat War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2011.01.19 01:02:00 -
[338]
Edited by: Skyreth on 19/01/2011 01:05:41 "Sorry, an error has occurred while processing your request." Appears when trying to log into EVE Gate. But i was going to make my guy look like some uppercut, long haired narcissist...but that failed, cause all the "business suit" type options failed and there is no long haired option for the Gallente besides what appears to be dreadlocks. Good character gen, but poor options to choose from.
EDIT- If you release more options for the character gen, you'd best let everyone change their avatar again or **** will hit the fan all over again.
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Misbehaviour
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Posted - 2011.01.19 01:05:00 -
[339]
So many issues I don't know where to begin tbo, character creation will def need some improving and "grace period" should mean a period of time in which we can continue to change our avatar multiple times if needed.... current once only change is epic fail given how bare bones the options available are, and the crappy results they tend to produce
And speaking of epic fail...PI is biggest fail change i think i have ever seen in a game this far. I was able to extract all mineral types available on a planet before without having to change my setup for weeks, now that is impossible without a complete reconfig at the end of cycles/programs. PI changes mean all planets will need to be rebuilt and, major changes will be required at regular (daily) intervals in order to gather multiple resource types on same planet. The only thumbs up is the upgrade option to main facility. The rest of the PI changes are hugely problematic and will continue to be on a daily basis. I honestly find it hard to believe these changes are made by people who actually use PI at all. Epic fail! epic fail, epic fail....can i say it enough...i dont think so
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AresSkyos
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Posted - 2011.01.19 01:08:00 -
[340]
They all suck. I approve. Yeah. The situation in kind of messed up, but the character rendering looks great imo. More clothing options could have been added etc etc, the biggest thing I'm bothered by is the fact that basically we were told we'd have a week to edit our toon but at the last second a note was added in saying that we'd just have a week to MAKE our toon and that we couldn't change it afterwards.
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zombiedeadhead
Minmatar Online Dating For Single Men
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Posted - 2011.01.19 01:11:00 -
[341]
Funniest day in Eve for a long time, much Lols to be had at new avatars, can we do this again next week?
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Kaldeath
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Posted - 2011.01.19 01:20:00 -
[342]
I would like to take a better picture . I did not realize that my picture was so close up . Other than this I like the new character creation .
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BeenieWeenie
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Posted - 2011.01.19 01:22:00 -
[343]
Edited by: BeenieWeenie on 19/01/2011 01:25:13 Maybe I missed this somewhere, but why does my in-game portrait render in lo-res while everyone else's renders hi-res?
I made my character in hi-res, then dropped it to lo-res so I knew it wouldn't look stupid and so it wouldn't have taken forever on my laptop. But seriously, do I need to do something to make the pic show correct resolution, and are other people seeing me in hi-res?
EDIT: Never mind, it shows correctly now. With completely jacked-up shading.
Sigh.
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RavenTesio
Caldari Liandri Corporation
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Posted - 2011.01.19 01:24:00 -
[344]
Originally by: Airyn Farscape I would like to even be able to create my character. I have been waiting on a black screen for 20 minutes. I have a decent graphics card and could play the game just fine, but won't load the Creator. Same for my husband who has an Nvidia 9800, so yeah. Definitely fail :(
Press Escape and set a new display size, this should correct the issue; but I am unsure for how long as each time I restarted the client the issue would occur again, but the TQ client seems to not have inherited this.
In any case there were petitions made about this issue, what kinda irritates me about sending a petition to CCP about something that is bugged on SiSi is you always get the same "We are aware of the problem" message. At times this makes playtesting feel more of a case (atleast for those of us outside of the special programs) a simple case of "previewing" rather than helping to make the client better prior to release.
While no doubt there are in-house testers, honestly either they're incompetant, using identical rigs or are being guided to strictly to fully test features.
On the same matter, now that the Character Creator has been released I have to say that I am incredibly disappointed; but not from the stand-point that it is a poor creator suite. Instead from the basic standpoint that with the exception of performance it has not changed in the past month. One of the main concerns many of us had was the lack of variety in hair-style and clothes...
Now while you can argue that clothes do not matter as much until further Incarna features are released (likely in the next expansion, given the timetable that has been hinted at in CSM briefing releases) the fact remains that the initial hair-styles and glasses (well should be accessories) aspects that are very prodominant on portaits were incredibly limited in number compared to the old system. What makes matters even worse is sometime between the last SiSi update a week ago and Release, someone decided on even more limitations by making certain hairstyles ONLY available to specific races.
I personally was happy with my look on SiSi, only to discover that because of my Race & Bloodline choice that all of the long/medium length hair was unavailable. Having gone through every race/bloodline variant I've noticed that absolutely NO NEW CONTENT has been added for 2months. Again on SiSi I don't think anyone testing, I mean I certainly didn't feel this was an issue as we weren't reviewing the system for how many options there were in total available but rather expected that much of the media was either withheld or still in-production as was the case in the first month.
Had I known that there would be so little in the way of customisation in terms of hair-styles and to a lesser degree clothing and accessories, then I would have probably been MUCH more vocal about the sheer lack of content that honestly for a system that we can only use ONCE then have to PAY to alter later honestly is unacceptable.
Do our Characters appear much better? Yeah they do, they look absolutely fantastic; but as Character Artist myself I know full well that adding something as simple as an additional hair-style at most 2 days of work with the majority of that spent painting normal maps and diffuse textures. Especially given that optimisation for real-time rendering is current not a major issue and can be dealt with at a later period of time, thus cutting out a very time consuming task that should be dealt with manually unlike has been the case with the ships that have utilise polygon reduction tools; as a way of maintaining the high level of quality that the product strives for with the High-Quality media.
Sorry but while the level of quality of work is amazing, if as a company you are going to maintain charging people to recreate their characters there needs to be enough customisation present; atleast equal to what we had in the original character system!
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CMD Bileena
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Posted - 2011.01.19 01:24:00 -
[345]
Originally by: simmi2 Edited by: simmi2 on 19/01/2011 00:47:25 Before i start i never post on these forums but i feel the need to after todays events.
CCP you have made a very costly mistake today which i think will have repercussions for quite along time. You have grown as a company so fast you have lost touch with the players of this game. Alot of people didnt want a new avatar picture to start with they wanted fixs to the game already or more engaging content but instead you created this useless 0.5GB 'Patch' that the whole player base will use once per character but you created it with stupidly powerful graphics which people just dont have so cant enjoy how good the pictures look anyway!
You need to sack whoever agreed on the amount of detail on the new avatars! Yes you have said that this patch is paving the way towards Incarna but you have gone about it all wrong only keeping in mind the real Hardcore gamers that will have the graphics cards to use this new feature without sacrificing performance and all the award you will win for how good it looks. I think the playerbase has a duty to knock you down off your high horse and bring you back down to earth!
If you need proof that you messed up just read the comments on here i looked through 5 pages and people dont like what you have done at all! i cant comment on the sansha bit yet but i seriously hope more thought has gone into that than the avatars.
It is a common thing on all forums for the angry minority to also be the very vocal minority ... People who are happy with the new charactor creator are just going to be playing the game... The unhappy peeps are the ones posting on here... generally speaking.
Personally I love the new avatars! Even if mine has turned out look like a 70 year old Cpt. Jainway! Though I do agree a bit more choice in terms of clothing and accessories would be nice... The PI changes are really good too, took a bit of getting used to... and I can see it causing a lot of issues for people who try and extract more than two resources on a planet... but otherwise I think its a great improvement.
Loving the small UI tweaks as well, the 'change session' swirly icon thing is a great idea.
Good Work CCP
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Jamie Dread
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Posted - 2011.01.19 01:29:00 -
[346]
hey guys
the retrever mining ship is yellow.. is that meant to be?? and the mack ice mining ship is red and yellow..
werid looking
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Hawk Bavil
Proposition Thirteen The Third Rail
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Posted - 2011.01.19 01:31:00 -
[347]
Edited by: Hawk Bavil on 19/01/2011 01:31:35 The character creator is terrible, lack of choices, lag, it looks unfinished. The character dosen't stay still long enough to allow you to anter it with all the lag. I shouldn't be surprised, nothing you relese is ever finished and never gets finished later. The whole of Eve is full ov your half done updates.
What good is money if it can't inspire terror in your fellow man? |
garus banta
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Posted - 2011.01.19 01:33:00 -
[348]
if eve is a sandbox game why did we get clay that we have to bake and once baked can't play with anymore?
The character creator is made of clay not sand.
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BeenieWeenie
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Posted - 2011.01.19 01:34:00 -
[349]
Originally by: Jamie Dread hey guys
the retrever mining ship is yellow.. is that meant to be?? and the mack ice mining ship is red and yellow..
werid looking
I sort of like my "golden retriever"
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CMD Bileena
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Posted - 2011.01.19 01:36:00 -
[350]
Originally by: Hawk Bavil Edited by: Hawk Bavil on 19/01/2011 01:31:35 The character creator is terrible, lack of choices, lag, it looks unfinished. The character dosen't stay still long enough to allow you to anter it with all the lag. I shouldn't be surprised, nothing you relese is ever finished and never gets finished later. The whole of Eve is full ov your half done updates.
Thats not lag bud, thats your machine not handling the level of detail ... lower your graphics settings and you'll be fine. There are seperate settings specifically for the charactor creator.
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Mgar Muad'dib
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Posted - 2011.01.19 01:38:00 -
[351]
WOW... some crying is more then I can relate too.. New generator has limitless possibilities... Thanks to CCP for taking us out of the "cartoon town" and into the 21st century!... well done team!
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Dremoirae
Amarr The ID Extreme Actors
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Posted - 2011.01.19 01:40:00 -
[352]
OMFG !! Amarr male hairstyle.... are we living in history ?? amarr supposed to look evil or something...and with current hairstyle...just like beavis and butthead..evil beavis and butthead...damn
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Panch0Villa
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.19 01:40:00 -
[353]
It's nice that we have a nice avatar, but we still only have a static pic. How hard would it be to add some sort of preview tab just like the rest of the ship models?
Credit goes to a corpmate for wondering. Apologies if this has been suggested/asked before :P
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Rava Zix
Minmatar Orbital Corporation
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Posted - 2011.01.19 01:41:00 -
[354]
Well I am gorgeous
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St'oto
freelancers inc -Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2011.01.19 01:46:00 -
[355]
Originally by: simmi2 Edited by: simmi2 on 19/01/2011 00:47:25 Before i start i never post on these forums but i feel the need to after todays events.
CCP you have made a very costly mistake today which i think will have repercussions for quite along time. You have grown as a company so fast you have lost touch with the players of this game. Alot of people didnt want a new avatar picture to start with they wanted fixs to the game already or more engaging content but instead you created this useless 0.5GB 'Patch' that the whole player base will use once per character but you created it with stupidly powerful graphics which people just dont have so cant enjoy how good the pictures look anyway!
You need to sack whoever agreed on the amount of detail on the new avatars! Yes you have said that this patch is paving the way towards Incarna but you have gone about it all wrong only keeping in mind the real Hardcore gamers that will have the graphics cards to use this new feature without sacrificing performance and all the award you will win for how good it looks. I think the playerbase has a duty to knock you down off your high horse and bring you back down to earth!
If you need proof that you messed up just read the comments on here i looked through 5 pages and people dont like what you have done at all! i cant comment on the sansha bit yet but i seriously hope more thought has gone into that than the avatars.
If you can't run the character creator you need to upgrade. The character creator runs flawless on my $500 system. Computers are cheap to make now a days you have no excuse. You can always buy one part one month buy another the next.
While the character creator does not have a lot of options. It runs fine. You people that complain about FPS seriously need new hardware and need to learn how to maintain a computer.
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Kalamaner syscomika
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Posted - 2011.01.19 01:48:00 -
[356]
Well not over impressed with toon creator tbh was expecting a lot more options, pretty ****e imo.
Also now have problem with being denied acces to corp wallet. also problem with local not showing neuts the way they are setup in overview, no tag at all even tho set for one.
hopefully these are the only problems, but pls fix as tbh local tag is kinda lame atm.
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Jamie Dread
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Posted - 2011.01.19 01:50:00 -
[357]
Originally by: St'oto
Originally by: simmi2 Edited by: simmi2 on 19/01/2011 00:47:25 Before i start i never post on these forums but i feel the need to after todays events.
CCP you have made a very costly mistake today which i think will have repercussions for quite along time. You have grown as a company so fast you have lost touch with the players of this game. Alot of people didnt want a new avatar picture to start with they wanted fixs to the game already or more engaging content but instead you created this useless 0.5GB 'Patch' that the whole player base will use once per character but you created it with stupidly powerful graphics which people just dont have so cant enjoy how good the pictures look anyway!
You need to sack whoever agreed on the amount of detail on the new avatars! Yes you have said that this patch is paving the way towards Incarna but you have gone about it all wrong only keeping in mind the real Hardcore gamers that will have the graphics cards to use this new feature without sacrificing performance and all the award you will win for how good it looks. I think the playerbase has a duty to knock you down off your high horse and bring you back down to earth!
If you need proof that you messed up just read the comments on here i looked through 5 pages and people dont like what you have done at all! i cant comment on the sansha bit yet but i seriously hope more thought has gone into that than the avatars.
If you can't run the character creator you need to upgrade. The character creator runs flawless on my $500 system. Computers are cheap to make now a days you have no excuse. You can always buy one part one month buy another the next.
While the character creator does not have a lot of options. It runs fine. You people that complain about FPS seriously need new hardware and need to learn how to maintain a computer.
Agreed man.. my comp is running 5 accounts fine... all with new characters :)
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Thorleifer
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Posted - 2011.01.19 01:52:00 -
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Edited by: Thorleifer on 19/01/2011 01:53:23 feedback where should I start.....
whoever decided dock option was best all the way at the bottom, well they deserve to be cast into a infernal lava pit.
there is no yield percentages anymore when you reprocess or refine something, ya so you missed that bug.
a whole lot of people are spending time going through creating a portrait and saving it, and then having the system auto pick them to be a silhouette, epic one there.
sitting at a gate the screen may randomly flash like a strobing light kinda like a giant disco ball. I can see someone complaining about siezures there..lol
oh and I think i turned out to look like elton john for christs sakes
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Aedan Vals
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Posted - 2011.01.19 01:55:00 -
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so many angry little kids. and the best part: they mad because there is not enough clothes. in a game about spaceships. make us proud boys
i like the update however i miss the new contract system and neocom. what happened with those?
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Orion Teller
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Posted - 2011.01.19 02:00:00 -
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Edited by: Orion Teller on 19/01/2011 02:02:03 When creating new portrait I can take up to four pictures, yet only the last one I took is the one that gets chosen. I can't change it later and what if I liked the first or second one I took better than the last one. Why can I take four pictures if only one is considered?!
Also, why is it when I choose clothing I don't choose a style and then color. Instead there are like 3-4 different styles, each with maybe 2-3 different predetermined color combination, none of which I like.
Like how picture load automatically and quickly for characters in chat window now, instead of having to click them on-demand.
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el caido
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2011.01.19 02:08:00 -
[361]
Whoever skinned the Retriever should be shot.
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Zaerui
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Posted - 2011.01.19 02:12:00 -
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Originally by: Misbehaviour And speaking of epic fail...PI is biggest fail change i think i have ever seen in a game this far. I was able to extract all mineral types available on a planet before without having to change my setup for weeks, now that is impossible without a complete reconfig at the end of cycles/programs. PI changes mean all planets will need to be rebuilt and, major changes will be required at regular (daily) intervals in order to gather multiple resource types on same planet. The only thumbs up is the upgrade option to main facility. The rest of the PI changes are hugely problematic and will continue to be on a daily basis. I honestly find it hard to believe these changes are made by people who actually use PI at all. Epic fail! epic fail, epic fail....can i say it enough...i dont think so
I'd have to second this comment. I went from having the ability to extract all resource types from a planet (at a reduced yield) to only being able to extract 2-3 types due to the power requirements of the extractor control units and my existing factory structure. This is a pretty easy problem to fix - just reduce the control unit power cost and increase the head cost; you can either have a lot of something or a little of many things. The reduction in clickfest is nice, but my PI production chain is now crippled. I'll work it out with my corpies to share the production burden around if CCP doesn't address this problem, but I feel for the solo players out there; it's now extremely difficult for a solo player to realistically make PI-material goods (was pretty difficult before, but now it's nearly impossible).
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Deandra Walran
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Posted - 2011.01.19 02:18:00 -
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Originally by: Misbehaviour So many issues I don't know where to begin tbo, character creation will def need some improving and "grace period" should mean a period of time in which we can continue to change our avatar multiple times if needed.... current once only change is epic fail given how bare bones the options available are, and the crappy results they tend to produce
And speaking of epic fail...PI is biggest fail change i think i have ever seen in a game this far. I was able to extract all mineral types available on a planet before without having to change my setup for weeks, now that is impossible without a complete reconfig at the end of cycles/programs. PI changes mean all planets will need to be rebuilt and, major changes will be required at regular (daily) intervals in order to gather multiple resource types on same planet. The only thumbs up is the upgrade option to main facility. The rest of the PI changes are hugely problematic and will continue to be on a daily basis. I honestly find it hard to believe these changes are made by people who actually use PI at all. Epic fail! epic fail, epic fail....can i say it enough...i dont think so
^this.
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DeathDealerDan
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Posted - 2011.01.19 02:19:00 -
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Ok just my two cents here , on the character creator it would be nice if the character would hold still while trying to edit the face makes it a pain in the royal arse. Oh and seems to me that theres a little bit of racism going on in the game , mainly african americans are ALL minmatar. seems a little racism going on here.
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Dieko
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Posted - 2011.01.19 02:19:00 -
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FAIL CCP onley thing that has really made me sad in 3 years of eve why did we need this again ??? so we can freaking walk around in stasions and look good some time in distant future f..... that this is a spaceship game isent it? plz dont make this 2life ore hello kity adventure island!!! seriusly ccp start focusing like a lazor on PVP and how to get more peapol doing it focuse on what you have fore a year ore 2 make it beter then start adding more stuff
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simmi2
Caldari Chaos Rendering STR8NGE BREW
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Posted - 2011.01.19 02:21:00 -
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Originally by: salvador enrinea
yeaaaah... kinda excessive there pal... I wanted it.. just not like this.. as for "sack(ing)" whoever designed it... these are also the people that built the world that we play in... most games go through trial and error, so relax pal, they'll fix it.
I spose i was quite harsh now that i calmed down and i take back about sacking but i still think they need to take alook at what they have done with this expanion/patch and the ways they could of done stuff differently.
I have never complained about any of the previous expansions as i think they have done a good job with delivery of the expansion and its quality however this whole expansion just feels wrong from the first patch. I know its a massive expansion and was needed to be implimentated in smaller mini expansions (patches).
While fiddling around with the character creater you have the things which people have already talked about like black eye brows with brown hair and i cant seem to get it to look right the clothes dont seem right on the caldari its just the same items different colour. It just feels unfinished and could be so much more than what it is. So much effort and developer hours into a part of the game which is going to be used so little until incarna is released. I think they should play around with it improve it before incarna which is going to be the main use of these avatars and then allow us to give people the option to re-invent themselfs again.
I keep up to date with the dev blogs so i knew what was coming but i was neutral about this part of the expansion i was not bothered about super cool new avatars that look better than any other MMO. I was more interested in the sansha parts to be trueful which i have not had time to try out yet.
however on a positive note i do like the new PI its alot more engaging and different in a good way will take some getting used to but yes i like that. Controling all your extractors with one building is so much better (less clicks) and moving your extractors around bit to find the best extraction rate over the time you select e.g. 8 hours is so much more user friendly :)
New Character System - 5/10 feels unfinished and restricted to much to bloodlines which you cant change. When thinking of the future towards Incarna they need to improve the clothing by adding so much more choice think of the 50k players online at one time people are going to look to much the same.
New PI- 9/10 Better extraction system making it easier to use maybe less production but i wouldnt know as i stopped doing PI shortly after it was released but with me CCP achieved its goal of getting people back using PI.
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willows trade2
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Posted - 2011.01.19 02:25:00 -
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Epic fail!!
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Keith Deteisrich
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Posted - 2011.01.19 02:27:00 -
[368]
CCP - Please STOP!
As you can see this new software patch was not ready.
I am losing CORP members because you have deleted their Photos / Avatars of themselves.
Instead of running missions today I am having to help people search their hard drives and try to tell them to please wait as CCP will fix.
Are you going to fix it or not?
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Valaska
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.01.19 02:27:00 -
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Character Creator;
The "keeping races unique" and such is ruining any semblance to a human I can make with my Amarr... What are they born 50 years old? I mean come on, and the nose is -AWFUL- I can't make any edits to make my character look like a half normal human being.
At this point I just want to keep my old portrait I was able to at least make him look mid 30's... But this is just terrible. The races need to be a lot more flexible, or at least allow us to change, if I was given the option to change I'd go straight to Caldari Civre, they look normal! "No Bird Soars too High if he soars with his own wings" Marriage of Heaven and Hell. |
Mr LaForge
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Posted - 2011.01.19 02:28:00 -
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Opened contracts don't remember their window size after resizing them.
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Wolf Spyder
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Posted - 2011.01.19 02:31:00 -
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From what I read in the patch notes this patch is going to suck ass big time for a lot of players simply because some people don't choose pvp not because they are "care bears" and prefer the sanctity of high sec space. Some don't do it for the simple fact that they either don't want to participate in that part of eve or, like myself, they simply don't have access to a decent connection to participate in that area of the game. So they do missions and build stuff or support their corps through logistics. As a 5+ year dual account holder, I have enough Sp's to insta pop a planet and I'd like to PvP. Unfortunately my connection wont allow it as it is satellite based and I have no other option available. And to those that say move to where I have a better connection. I say give me the fracken money so I can otherwise SYFM.
By forcing this on every player in eve isn't going to bode too well for a lot of CCP's clients. For them the so called "path of least resistance" is going to find a game elsewhere to their liking. Who ever thought this snafu up must not have been sober or was smoking some really bad chronic when they decided to ran rod this idea down everyone's throats. Kinda like the health care bill that was recently shoved down our throats in the states. It was not very well thought about.
CCP may have just shot them selves in the foot with this one. Which is too bad. The reason I stayed so long is because of the diversity the game had for everyone. It had a lot to offer its players. Now with this "you will fight or else" mentality CCP has taken, I choose the "else" It was fun but now I gotta look else where for my entertainment. I hope CCP pulls their head out of their ass before they lose too many of their clients. It is poor business to cadre to one group of people. I get the distinct feeling CCP is competing against wow by turning it in to a fight only game. That's what turned me off of wow in less than a week. I got less than a month to go on my accounts If I don't like it or I lose too many ships because of this forced to fight mentality the game has been turned in to CCP will lose at least 2 accounts.......
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Skyreth
Gallente SOL Combat War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2011.01.19 02:32:00 -
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Anyone noticed that each race seems to be set to look like a certain age group. IE. Minnies look like they are 18-25yrs old, Gallente 25-35yrs, Caldari 35-45yrs and Amarr with 45+ yrs old...just an odd thing i noticed when playing with the creator.
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PropheticWarrior
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Posted - 2011.01.19 02:37:00 -
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My first impressions are that I like the graphical improvements and I love the PI improvements. The days of endless clicking are gone!
I DO NOT like the character builder! I add my voice to the others on this thread who have asked for all character models be available. There are no dark skinned Caldari? I can't choose long hair on a guy? C'mon CCP! Fix that crap! Give us an open palette for designing characters. I've seen micro trans games with more character design options.
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Valaska
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.01.19 02:38:00 -
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Originally by: Skyreth Anyone noticed that each race seems to be set to look like a certain age group. IE. Minnies look like they are 18-25yrs old, Gallente 25-35yrs, Caldari 35-45yrs and Amarr with 45+ yrs old...just an odd thing i noticed when playing with the creator.
Lol Amarr being 45 years? No no, 55-80's. I can't even bring myself to finalize my character, the one good thing about APB was having complete freedom of the character editor, Carbon was supposed to be BETTER! But I guess not. "No Bird Soars too High if he soars with his own wings" Marriage of Heaven and Hell. |
Padraig O'Healey
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Posted - 2011.01.19 02:49:00 -
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Prior to today, all neutral pilots, regardless of if they were set neutral to me or not, had the neutral colored tag visible in the Overview, Local, etc. Today, unless I have a neutral relationship manually set to that pilot via personal/corp/alliance standings, they show up with no color tag. They used to show up as neutral by default, but now it appears that pilots you have no relationship with no longer qualify under any colortag.
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Jerome D'Winter
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Posted - 2011.01.19 02:52:00 -
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test run it on your alts. if you dont have any, make some, then delete them.
my main is going to take some time as the current options for Dietis means no matter what i do i cannot get my char to look even remotely close to what i had. they all look young and foolish.
however im quite happy that Jerome has turned out like a complete prat.
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Thelitos
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Posted - 2011.01.19 03:01:00 -
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Originally by: Aedan Vals so many angry little kids. and the best part: they mad because there is not enough clothes. in a game about spaceships. make us proud boys
i like the update however i miss the new contract system and neocom. what happened with those?
hahaha agreed. I guess they locked the palletes so that you could recognize what race a player is. Because as of now theres no way I know of you can find out besides asking them. I mean, that's one way to look at it.
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Mr Cleann
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.01.19 03:33:00 -
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Originally by: Gun Gun I really hate this Barbie-meets-Space-Ken update! Also, one of my planets has malfunctioned
LMAO that was funny. You all hate the character creator that is laughable but understandable. Just wait until your ships lose half of their resistances and your bonuses go by way of the dinosaur and your ammo wont be strong enough to pop a jet can when an incursion develops. This entire patch is going to be viewed as one gigantic epic failure. Unless your are a hard core gamer with an uber connection and state of the art computer you will learn to hate this update. Don't get me wrong I like the concept pretty goo. But the sudden ship nerfings system wide is going to **** a lot of you off. Especially when you start to lose then and realize you cant get them replaced as easily as you used to. Be the kind of man that when your feet hit the floor each morning, the devil says "Oh crap, he's up!"
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Xestu's Mom
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Posted - 2011.01.19 03:35:00 -
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Seriously though, who signed off on seven different colors of aviators...I need my RayBans!
Aviators Yes{} No{}
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Divenia
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.01.19 03:40:00 -
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Just saw my Retriever... *washes eyes out with bleach*
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Aeos Sol
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Posted - 2011.01.19 03:41:00 -
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Congrats on the server updates.
A lot of player feedback from SiSi was largely ignored though; disappointing.
And W H E R E I S T H E NEOCOM??? I thought it was meant to be part of this update?? Not even beta??
Ah well, maybe next patch.
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Romulus Warhammer
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.19 03:42:00 -
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Honestly, I havn't even logged in to the new update. Thought I'd read what others think about it before I got down to character creation ! In the last 30 mins of reading the forums, among all the tears and pain there are some posts that make you laugh ! Here are my favs
Originally by: el caido Whoever skinned the Retriever should be shot.
Originally by: Eeio Good lord. If the biggest issue with this patch is something that have no effect on ingame play at all, I will consider this a success.
Originally by: Sovetskii Rosisski Ok, who the hell moved the dock option, and can we move it back.
Originally by: Runeaway Went from a tough looking image to a pretty boy out of GQ. When can we edit these images?????
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Dryson Bennington
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Posted - 2011.01.19 03:44:00 -
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First off I receive an error message about the Direct X installation that the execution file could not locate it within the files needed to run the game. When I checked the repair log after repairing the instal it said that the install timedout. Could this just be a connectivity issue or hardware issue?
Also is ther going to be an expansion patch dealing with new missions inside of wormholes that would relate to the Amarr and Caldari ancestor's once again regaining control over the True Slaves who have conspired with the Sleeper's to dominate all of New Eden?
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Exlegion
Caldari Salva Veritate
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Posted - 2011.01.19 03:46:00 -
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THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!
"Group/Ungroup All Weapons" in main overview is PURE WIN.
I know it seems like a little change, but it's pure awesomeness .
One of us equals many of us. Disrespect one of us, you'll see plenty of us. - Gang Starr |
Mr Cleann
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.01.19 03:52:00 -
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Originally by: Divenia Just saw my Retriever... *washes eyes out with bleach*
LMAO your avatar looks like a kid out of middle school. Be the kind of man that when your feet hit the floor each morning, the devil says "Oh crap, he's up!"
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HoshinoRuri
Playboy Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.01.19 03:57:00 -
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Despite the lack of obvious options i liked the character creator, now the photo on the other hand i am going to have to petition since it choose the worst god awful one for me. Love the change to PI made it easier for me to do. Figure we will get more clothing options when we get into stations, wished there was more head gear available and the sun glasses were lame all same style just different lens color. Looking forward to trying an incursion when it happens but the patching system is taking me 3+ hrs on two different computers to do and with my mac mini and my mac book pro that is lame. One of the craziest pilots you may ever meet |
Smodab Ongalot
Gallente Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2011.01.19 03:58:00 -
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I seem to be able to run AA now in windowed, is that new?
The character creator, while being visually stunning, seems extremely limited.
"Clothing from the following categories must be equipped to your character before continuing: Bottom"
I am very disappointed, CCP, very disappointed..
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Jeremy Brown
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Posted - 2011.01.19 04:00:00 -
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6 Years I've been playing this game. I don't care about the avatar thing too much. The portraits look better. But yes there are way too few options for style and dress.
My biggest beef is that all of my shortcut keys that I've used and refined for years are gone. GONE I say, no option, just delete everyone's careful setup and force them to change the keypresses they have gotten used to. WTF.
Oh and to top that off, it appears that I now have to go not only to each account but each toon on each account to reset them. Hours and hours of changing, testing, etc.. Trying to figure out what the purpose of changing CTRL + Q to ALT + SHIFT + Q? Come on.
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Jay Wareth
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Posted - 2011.01.19 04:02:00 -
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Saw the golden retriever on SiSi... now it's on TQ. I love you CCP.
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Stoop Paz
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Posted - 2011.01.19 04:02:00 -
[390]
Whenever I Alt-Tab between programs and I am running EVE my desktop becomes very dim. The in-game image brightness stays constant but my desktop and all windows and windowed applications become very dark.
I have an Athlon X2 255 64bit processor-based system and I have an ATI Radeon HD 5400 based vid-card.
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Gareth Ultari
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Posted - 2011.01.19 04:03:00 -
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its pretty amazing how many asses CCP chapped on this one...
after a big win with the learning skill removal
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Chris Camcer
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Posted - 2011.01.19 04:03:00 -
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Gang bonuses & links are broken with latest patch for some odd reason.
Form fleet with two characters, one as squad member and one as squad commander. Undock squad commander; no bonuses... good! Undock squad member; commander gets bonuses, member does not.
Two people confirming this behaviour so far.
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Thelitos
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Posted - 2011.01.19 04:05:00 -
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LOL I just saw the Retriever on the market. Someone tell me what the hell exactly is the point of it being bright gold now? Is it like a "shoot me, I have lots of stuff in my cargo bay" type of skin?
I mean come on, I don't hate CCP for this update or anything, but did someone get REALLY bored? I don't see a point for it and it looks kinda laughable now but hey, whatever floats their boat...
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Urd Laveathain
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Posted - 2011.01.19 04:06:00 -
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thanks for nothing as if PI wasnt time intensive before now you just added to the mix by screwing everyone out of making an profit with it and the charecter creation system is the second biggest pile of dung ive ever seen next to wow
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Kerobani
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Posted - 2011.01.19 04:11:00 -
[395]
Now that I've had the opportunity to test the new Planetary Interaction features, I am more pleased with this release. Every change to PI was a significant improvement. My only request is a larger and graduated slider to change extraction area size. It's hard to eyeball what one day looks like on a 14-day slider a three centimeters long
In summary I'm lukewarm to the character creator (see previous post), and very impressed with the new PI elements.
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Divenia
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.01.19 04:20:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Cleann
Originally by: Divenia Just saw my Retriever... *washes eyes out with bleach*
LMAO your avatar looks like a kid out of middle school.
It's the best I could do with her at this point. How about creating yours first before laughing at others.
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Dalton Vanadis
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Posted - 2011.01.19 04:28:00 -
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I'm relatively okay with the character creator. It's nice, not great, but nice. And hopefully they'll roll out better options come incarna that can be more readily modified. At the end of the day though, I'm here to fly a spaceship and while I think my character portrait looks badass and I got to get rid of the toon with eyes pulled too close, I'm not too broken up about it either way.
I am a bit bummed that there was no big special event today to mark the namesake of the expansion and that we have to wait yet another week for any of that content to even start showing up.
The keyboard shortcuts are nice. However there are a few things I would love to see added, such as an option to launch drones, or access the contextual menu for items, or access and interact with bookmarks via keyboard shortcuts. Plus other little things, just to give the feature set full access. Otherwise, it's great, but more of a pain in the ass than it's worth, at least for me. Being in a wormhole means I live on bookmarks... And it would be nice to bind the camera to some keys as well.
I'm a little bummed that a few of the features talked about like new forums, neocom, contracts, etc. weren't added in with this release.
Otherwise, I'm a fan of the PI improvements, makes life a bit easier and less of a click fest.
EVE voice doesn't seem to be working on EVE Gate. And it would be nice to see that functionality extended to mobile operating systems in some way sometime soon.
Also with EVE Gate, it would be nice if there was more integration with outside services, like being able to forward mail and notifications to an external mail service like gmail, or have access to an IM extension so people can be notified of some big shindig by their contacts if they aren't logged in. I'd happily postpone ochem work an hour or three for an exciting op, but I won't know about it unless someone tells me, because I'm not on eve 24/7, as much as I may want to be.
I think everyone has pretty much already bashed you guys enough already on the other flaws and not delivering on various promises that I haven't mentioned. So I'll leave that alone. Keep doing good work, maybe make some more improvements on the art, and all that jazz, maybe make 0.0 sovereignty more accessible to less than *holy-balls-huge* alliances, perhaps get Dust out sometime within a year of it's original planned release. And manage the PR a bit better for Incarna (read: don't tell players it's going to be holy-crap-amazing right off the bat, instead say it's a work in progress that will slowly be improved and let them be impressed in their own right). Though I think for your first couple iterations, your still going to have some pretty big hater crowds no matter what (sorry), but hopefully it will be some really cool and engaging content regardless.
Finally, congrats, you've gotten someone who is a full-time university student with 3 jobs and too little time to keep playing your game, so I'd count that as a success.
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Revant Zeisor
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Posted - 2011.01.19 04:29:00 -
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I can't understand why I have a hood on my char when I'm in game but in character creator and in the login I haven't!! I don't wanted it! WTF?
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Lego Maniac
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Posted - 2011.01.19 04:31:00 -
[399]
This must have been asked already, but as far as Minmatar glasses go, is there anything besides aviators that eat up half your face? They make me feel like I'm about to go play beach volleyball with Tom Cruise in some flaming 80's movie about Navy pilots.
I know, I know, I should work on that security thing. But honestly. ˄ ______________ ˄
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OmgNoFreeNames
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Posted - 2011.01.19 04:32:00 -
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Well, I somehow feel rendering is better now (now when it doesn't actually renders portraits) on my laptop, and as for char creator, well I wasn't really expected much, and tbh I don't really care, since Incarna is for another group of players I don't care about.
1. Issue with portraits appears in chat windows, they are loading now constantly, instead of a previous behaviour, when they was cached after you click it. I can survive that on my home PC with a fast connection, but I use my laptop with a cellphone connection to play when I'm not home, and extra traffic generated by this feature is expensive and performance affecting. More than that, I used this portrait feature to mark pilots I know in local, to notice new faces who have no cached pic, so if you can add an option to disable automatic char pic updates - it would be very appreciated.
2. Retriever texture as mentioned.
3. New incarnation of Ghosts in overview. (TBH better than old one, since it is visible and can be fixed by pressing CTRL, but still).
Couldn't find anything else, apart from a char creator, that is fine, just not finished yet.
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Filfan
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Posted - 2011.01.19 04:44:00 -
[401]
Serious flaw in this! Can not remotely modify buy orders. Can change sell orders but not buy orders.
Yes, I am with everyone that the character creator is a pain, but I could care less about that compared to the problem with not being able to remotely modify buy orders.
Any chance of fixing this problem?
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Apollo Cochrane
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Posted - 2011.01.19 04:52:00 -
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Downloaded the update in about 25 mins and it installed on my PC no problem. Character Creator looks great, but frame rates are not so great. Can't imagine how the framerate is gonna be when we're walking in stations, unless some major performance improvements are implemented by then. I thought the choice of clothes was very limited, and nowhere near bad-@ss enough. Same goes for the hair styles - it was all I could do to not make my character look like a fashion model! And if I needed any impetus to train up from a Retriever to a Mackinaw, well, the new bright-yellow paint job is it!
I seriously think CCP should just let us redo our avatars whenever we like. It takes about an hour or so to recreate a character if you spend the proper time on it, so its not like people would be doing it all the time. And at least then all the time and money they have invested in the character creator would be put to better use (I know it's really a prep for walking in stations, but still...) I mean it's just not right to charge us $10 to do a portrait swap imo. I'm sure they could easily make it so we could redo our characters whenever we liked. But why should they when they can charge us $10 for the privilege?
I do think it's a step forward though (I hated the cartoon style of the previous avatars), and I hope that now it's deployed CCP can give the client several tune-ups in time for Incarna in the summer. I just wish they had spent as much time on developing the UI as they did the character creator. It's very outdated and needs a good revamp. But hey, that's just my opinion.
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Hurrm V'Bakshi
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Posted - 2011.01.19 04:58:00 -
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bye bye 4 paid accounts. Although the system requirements are met eve does not work on my home pc and barely (even at lowest settings)on my laptop both of which are less than 2 years old. Tried every trick i learned to keep the game going over the past 4 years but no success there. Below is my comments about what i could do on my laptop.
- avatar creation is a pain w/o benefits and few choices. At lowest settings most of the choices does not make a visible difference at all as expected and warned. - PI overhaul is complete disappointment. New version forces one to tear down everything one has built so far besides the command centers and no reimbursement there. Sure one can set-up longer cycles but no more constructing advanced stuff on the same planet and i'm sure no one subscribes to play "haulers online". - can't understand the need for new keyboard short-cuts that forces players to memorize new configurations for no apparent reason. why alt-shift-q?
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Fennisair
Autocannons Anonymous
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Posted - 2011.01.19 05:01:00 -
[404]
So far no problems (am yet to delve into the char creator though). I do have a couple of problems with the short-cut keys though. This is something I think could be easily improved/implemented (and haven't heard mentioned yet... sorry if it has been)?
When holding down "S" or "D" and clicking a warp-to location it would be really helpful if it would freeze the overview in the same way that "CTRL" does for targeting.
Also a small annoyance in the fact that when I warp to a gate (that's already a "selected item"), pressing "D" to jump doesn't seem to work. I've either got to "hold-D-and-click" or re-select the (already selected and highlighted), gate on the overview. Pretty much defeats the point of the shortcut key.
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AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance
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Posted - 2011.01.19 05:05:00 -
[405]
CCP: "Let's get rid of learning skills so that we can get some clueless, whining EZ-mode WoW refugees to come give EVE a try."
1 month later
CCP: "How do we get rid of these clueless, whining EZ-mode WoW refugees?"
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Awesomesaurus
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Posted - 2011.01.19 05:11:00 -
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Edited by: Awesomesaurus on 19/01/2011 05:13:39 Relatively pleased with the character creator, being human looking is a step up from being a cartoon.
Agree with the rest of the world that we need more clothing options.
+ that Matari need their tatt's, see Ray of Matar
Oh yeah, and lets get these avatars to stop moving a little bit while we touch up their features eh?
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evedawn
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Posted - 2011.01.19 05:16:00 -
[407]
Man some people love to be negative. I think this is a definate improvement and im sure there is lots to come. I do have some issues getting all the clothes to work ie: the inside shirts dont show and the eyebrows as well, maybe a download issue with mine. But these Characters are way better and I look forward to some new outfits at some stage. Thankyou for all your hard work CCP.
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Gerard Pepin
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Posted - 2011.01.19 05:19:00 -
[408]
Why does my character keep fidgeting while I'm trying to adjust his physical parameters?!? The interface is painfully slow and scrolling through the various options is less than intuitive. Some suggestions:
- A button to stop/start fidgeting
- Left and right buttons in each scrolling selector
- When a body/facial part is selected, keep it selected and allow arrow key input for precision.
- Arrows for zoom and rotation. The interface is so slow that mouse wheel and dragging is counter productive.
Oh, and did I mention that it's slow?
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Melichor Duraldi
Gallente Fourth Circle Total Comfort
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Posted - 2011.01.19 05:32:00 -
[409]
So is anyone else living in wormhole space having an issue with bookmarks? I took some bookmarks for various wormholes and tried to copy them back (sharing is caring!) and now I cannot since I am not the owner of the can... __________________________________________________
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RoyAraym
Gallente Capital Construction Research Pioneer Alliance
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Posted - 2011.01.19 05:33:00 -
[410]
Edited by: RoyAraym on 19/01/2011 05:34:31
Originally by: De'Veldrin You do not want my honest feedback in this thread. Because my honest feedback would make sailors and truckers both advise me to watch my language.
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My new H-E-R-O-I-N-E!!!! (Just looking at your toon, thinking about a girl :D)
But perfectly understandable. (I'm trapped in the loop "patch client? Yes -> download patch -> apply patch -> client broken -> download repair -> repair broken -> unistal client -> download whole client -> client broken".
'azzzo, CCP!
Feedbacks about??? Vel talks! ---------
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IceH4wk
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Posted - 2011.01.19 05:37:00 -
[411]
You guys messed up BIG TIME, so many people are ****ed at you. I mean what was wrong with the old one? I cant even get into the char creation, if my days are being counted I demand for them back... |
Traelox
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Posted - 2011.01.19 05:38:00 -
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i skimmed the responses in this thread, and others related to the character creator, and I just need to point out to all the dorks the following 2 items:
1) we are playing a game where the characters involved are people that live 1 kagillion light years from earth, thousands and thousands of years in the future. Do you really think that anyone refers to dark skinned humans as "african americans" at this point in time?
2) "african american" is used by exactly 1 country on this planet - the united states. Anywhere else, they're just people, or blacks AFAIK. I can't imagine people referring to other people as "african russians" or "african sweedish" or "african chinese"...
this is an international game, just refer to the characters as light or dark skinned, don't bring your uber-PC crap into the game -- see point #1.
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Siberokk Darkforge
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Posted - 2011.01.19 05:38:00 -
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Edited by: Siberokk Darkforge on 19/01/2011 05:40:36 So sad to see such a great game, and a great company deteriorate so badly and diverge so far from its original vision and ingenuity. It would do you well to observe what happened to other games that ceased to listen to its community i.e. Star Wars Galaxies. If things don't change quickly, soon there will be a large amount of ex-EVE players that speak of the "good ol' days" before EVE went the same direction as SWG. This wouldn't be such a big deal if CCP was still known for excellence and improving features over time; but this has been a consistent trend of pushing out unfinished garbage and never looking back.
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Cromulent Word
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Posted - 2011.01.19 05:43:00 -
[414]
TL;DR: patch in more customization options and give us a do-over please.
Q_Q: After testing on Sisi I was stoked. The body and face sculpting was top notch. Smiles, frowns, poses, all very good. However, there was such a ridiculous lack of variety in the final release that my main ended up being a bald guy with a plain black tee.
No "old assets with a fresh coat of paint" so we could recreate our old selves? No pink/purple/blue/green hair? No tattoos? No implants, helmets, hoods, piercings? You can't change the colors of a piece of clothing? You can have short hair or dreadlocks, but no ponytails, no shaggy manes? "Glasses" are a dozen identical Lady Gaga shades with slightly different tint - there isn't a single pair of actual glasses??? If you're not allowed to swap between the 4 snapshots you take at a later time, the "Save" button should at least prompt you with hi-res versions of your choices so you can be totally sure, in case you want to change your mind at the last moment. Right now you have to choose your permanent picture based on a 64x64 thumbnail.
Son, I am disappoint. EVE may not be The Sims, or your Xbox 360 avatar, but since this is our unique identity in a game ironically filled with clones I was at least expecting something closer to Black Prophecy. I know this is the end result of a lot of long, hard work, but it still feels rushed and not up to par, guys.
But I do like the PLEX menu on the char sheet.
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WishBlade
Caldari Atomic Heroes The G0dfathers
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Posted - 2011.01.19 05:46:00 -
[415]
Edited by: WishBlade on 19/01/2011 05:49:02 CCP Fallout
Quote: When you play around with the new character creator, during the portrait view, when you create your portrait, you are given the opportunity to take four snapshots. Please keep in mind that when you take these pictures, only the highlighted one is used by the client and EVE Gate. Please do not accept your portrait unless you are 100% satisfied with how it looks! And if you blink, simply take a new picture.
For me it did not use the snapshot I highlighted, but the last version on the big image. Nor did it offer any differences between a Minmatar character of mine, and this Caldari. Everything was exactly the same, down to the tacky Minmatar sunglasses. I expected some racial differences, as were discussed while this was in testing.
Instead of having everyone petition to redo their profiles due to faulty, and flawed options, and visuals, and thereby creating unnecessary work for the staff which they could use to fix the system, there should be a do-over available, perhaps a certain number of tries after it's been finalized.
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Kasarch
XMX Corp Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2011.01.19 05:49:00 -
[416]
I want my old avatar back!!! CCP tell me, why you not prowide option to save old avatars? powered by |
Calumbacha
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Posted - 2011.01.19 05:51:00 -
[417]
Both my characters had face paint where is it?????
The old back grounds what happened to them, it couldnt be that hard to keep them around.
Having had my characters for many years i have grown to like the images and not happy that i can not even replicate the face paint of the same clothes or styles. I know things move forward and things change, but the one constant in this game has been the character portrait and I am not changing mine until it can be closer to my original. So far after an hours work they look nothing like the original and best portrait i made 5 years ago I am very worried
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ACESsiggy
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Posted - 2011.01.19 06:09:00 -
[418]
Edited by: ACESsiggy on 19/01/2011 06:11:08 As much of the pain you will receive in this patch ccp, it was defenitely needed.
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Jeff Nelson
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Posted - 2011.01.19 06:23:00 -
[419]
Character creator is great. I practiced for weeks on singularity, and then tonight, I think it turned out good - even though I had to do over because the client restarted.
...turned out good until I got to the snapshot. Now it looks like a 12-year-old.
I guess it's not my main...so not that big a deal...and has no effect on what I use her for...it's just...I put so much time into making her look like this (she's at LEAST 18), and now she looks 12...and people are going to think I made her look 12.
I know CCP have plenty of legitimate problems to deal with, so I don't want to waste their time with a petition so I can take a new snapshot...but...it feels like...dressing your nicest for school pictures, and getting them back to find you had a booger hanging out of your nose...
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Transfer point
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Posted - 2011.01.19 06:25:00 -
[420]
Character creator is borked. Try to create my own, all i get is a head, and once in a while the torso shows up. Screw it I hit random, no arms but rest of body is there, random again, torso arms no legs, random again no arms or legs. EXIT scrap changes go play game. Set up PI, decommision all the extractors set the new ones up, spend what feels like and hour moving heads around until each1 gets the most pull. Wait 4 hours so I can compare it to the last cycle of the old system, presto best planet I got 45% of the old cycle, worst planet 30%. I'll do a bit more reading see if I did something wrong (that 5 out of the 45 I was running). If not both my towers are coming down and I'll just limit what I do, time is ISK and that small return is easliy replaced by just ratting. Too bad, I was enjoying most parts of the game.
Originally by: Anastrianna StormHeart Character creation is sweet as. For everyone dissing it for what ever reason, have a care. This is the first game I've played that gives you this much customization on character creation. Also it is their first attempt at this, so how about offering some creative criticism, instead of things like "it's crap".
Go get a trial account for City of Heroes if you want to see a character creator that gives you tons of choices from body to make up to clothes. Their's was good from day 1 and has only gotten better.
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Judas Mulderrig
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Posted - 2011.01.19 06:38:00 -
[421]
I must agree with many on here - for such a well-touted in-depth character creator, it seems half-arsed in the end. Do so much with the faces to create different structures, and then for long hair, I could choose: Dreadlocks. Great.
I'm obsessive about my avatars. I've searched for years for a game that will let me create *me* in-game. Oblivion was close - I did make a pretty good facsimile, even considering the general frumpy tone of all faces in that Gamebryo engine.
So when I first saw early test screens and vids for this, I was ecstatic - finally, I could create myself.
So on release, I succeeded in making my face... and my full beard reduced to stubble, my long hair made dreadlocks.
That just seems thoroughly lacking - my Xbox Live avatar looks more like me than I can do in this, due to the complete lack of long hair for the Frenchies, or any race, it seems - save for the Liquid Snake hair the Amarr have.
Just a little more facial hair work, something a little fuller, and options for longer hair would be just so fantastic.
Because honestly, if there's no option in the end for it, I'll probably just cancel my account. I like RPing and immersion, and that's not an option as is.
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Sergio Armand
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Posted - 2011.01.19 06:41:00 -
[422]
Originally by: Urd Laveathain thanks for nothing as if PI wasnt time intensive before now you just added to the mix by screwing everyone out of making an profit with it and the charecter creation system is the second biggest pile of dung ive ever seen next to wow
Kinda agree with this succinct review.
Pretty limited options in the details and variations in the character creator .... If I'm gonna spend so much time tweeking with settings then I'd prefer to have more extensive options rather then just trying to see the subtle differences in 3 of 9 options that there may be :|
And PI ... was a PaIn and still is .... instead of *double click* fest it's now *click* ... *drag* .... *click* *tweek* *click* And CCP's scrooowed everyone with this ... for example :
I had a Barren planet with Elite CC and 3 spaceports extracting 3 materials and making 3 products. I took away 1 factory and the whole 11 extractors and can only now build 2 extractor controls and 5 heads giving significantly lower yelds than I was previously getting.
16,684 of 19,000 Power in use so not enough left to even build an extractor head let alone replace 6 lost extractors :(
So presently can only extract from 2 areas now which means rebuilding the whole PI set up anyway. It was bad enough b4 having 80 PG short to get the most out of an Elite CC.
Surely there was significant feedback protesting this on SISI ? I would have though the bloating of the client and limited diskspace prevented me from even getting SISI client up and running :\
Previously it was 1 x Extractor = 800 Power
Now it's: 1 x Extractor Control Unit = 2600 Pus 1 x Extractor Head = 550 Giving a min requirement of 3150 for one extractor
Which is a big penalty in extraction as you effectively lose 3 extractors. The output per extractor head seems the same as the output per extractor previously on a 5 hour cycle so it's a big not very stealth nerf to PI.
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SexayTang
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Posted - 2011.01.19 06:43:00 -
[423]
Don't know if anyone else is getting this but when I alt-tab EvE my whole screen is now stuck on a low light setting. The only way I can get rid of it is I restart my computer or I start another game then quit. Seems like an eve related problem.
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dclair
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Posted - 2011.01.19 06:49:00 -
[424]
If I recycle my avatar do I lose all my points? Or is just the avatar dumped...
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Iam Solo
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Posted - 2011.01.19 06:55:00 -
[425]
People here act like they paid for the new xpac or something...
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IQ 001
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Posted - 2011.01.19 06:58:00 -
[426]
every single manufacturing / copying job has disappeared from my queues. from what i gather the copying jobs are still in progress since the bpo's have not been returned to my hangers either.
all filters have been fiddled with in an attempt to see them, still no luck.
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AeroPRIDE
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Posted - 2011.01.19 07:03:00 -
[427]
patch blows so far. what ever it did, it refuses to use my gpu. Now my frames hang around 27fps which was 60+ before.
gpu is amd 6850.
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Jalimaru
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Posted - 2011.01.19 07:06:00 -
[428]
Originally by: Nexus Aurelia Let us change our portrait to one of the 4 upon login, you have such a good character creator but I can't switch between the presets I made for happy, horny, angry and pensive.
I think a posibility to change your portrait in this way would be a great idea. Before I read the help it was my first thought too.
btw the portrait is not looking as good as in the creator.
I expected more from the editor.
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Emmy Mnemonic
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Posted - 2011.01.19 07:10:00 -
[429]
Character creator is OK. Sure it could have more variations, hairstyles, clothes, assessories, implants, tatoos and stuff. But the function itself is awesome. I bet CCP has plans to allow players to add on such things in the future - which would be good. The question here is if we players will have that included for our monthly fee or if we have to pay xtra for it (in PLEX, ISK or real moneyz)
<-- BTW i filed a petition 'cause the character creator seems to have choosen another picture than the one I selected. Now have "silly-look" instead of "angry-with-shaded-face"-look...I hope this can be changed! I had used the character creator on Sisi and still failed in selecting the picture on TQ - perhaps a modal reuester asking "Are you sure this is the picture you want in-game for all foreseable future in EVE" <the actual picture> "yes, no" would have been an awsome HMI-concept here!
The new Neocom was fine on Sisi, a bit dissapointed that we didn't get it on TQ! The old neocom now seems so .... old! ;-)
Anyway, good work CCP. I'm satisfied with the completeness of the Incursion releases. I think many forget that you have made 3 releases over 2 months period, not 1 release!
You have made a good work, and I'm sure you won't stop at this. More will surely come! For the monthly fee I pay, I'd say CCP makes a good work in increasing the content of the game and adding new awsome features. That beeing the "bonus" to the actual game-play itself.
Now I'm REALLY looking forward to the start of the Incursions. I wanna ride on the God rays in my golden Legion!
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AeroPRIDE
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Posted - 2011.01.19 07:18:00 -
[430]
Originally by: Jalimaru
Originally by: Nexus Aurelia Let us change our portrait to one of the 4 upon login, you have such a good character creator but I can't switch between the presets I made for happy, horny, angry and pensive.
I think a posibility to change your portrait in this way would be a great idea. Before I read the help it was my first thought too.
btw the portrait is not looking as good as in the creator.
I expected more from the editor.
your chick needs bewbs asap or are they touching the floor?
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Hockston Axe
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.01.19 07:22:00 -
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The choice of clothing, hair, and accessories totally blows chunks in the char creator. Why canÆt we change the clothing color like hair color instead of giving us a tiny handful of choices (though IÆd say that those color options are pathetically limited too). Many of the intermediate renderings when changing clothes looked far cooler than the actual extremely limited options. I thought of putting on a robe for about 1 second until I noticed the boots clipping out through the robes.
I guess in the far distant future there must be some stranglehold monopoly on clothing stores so why bother having choices, it comes in blue/black, tan, and green, thatÆs all you need.
I would tell people about the super awesome character creator that lets you make your totally unique avatar but then IÆd be a dirty rotten liar. Sure itÆs pretty, but itÆs also disappointing. I hope you let us redress our characters when you add some actual customization options to the creator instead of what feels like a tacked-on customization.
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Cyrano Jaymin
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.01.19 07:22:00 -
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1. The character creator is very nice; however I missed many of its features as I didn't know about them. The paltry help didn't explain much; welcome screens illustrating all of the features would have been useful.
2. I assumed all created portraits would be available in-game as I didn't see anything that stated to the contrary; something stating that the last selected picture being your only portrait is necessary, such as a dialog box showing a large version of the selected portrait and asking for confirmation after one hits "Save".
3. The Retriever colour looks like a cheap bleach-blonde job gone bad. I feel like I need platform shoes, a fur coat, and a pimp hat if I were to fly it again. It is absolutely hideous.
4. I like the expanded bindings; however, I really could use a "Launch drones" binding as well as a "Mine repeatedly" binding.
5. The Journal window keeps insisting it pop up (when minimised) or to the front (when a tab) every zone change.
6. I can't imagine "Dock" not being the most-used right-click station function; I would really like for it to be the first option again.
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Roime
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Posted - 2011.01.19 07:27:00 -
[433]
Very nice update imho
Even though the char creator is almost too heavy for my oldish notebook (click, wait 5 seconds, click 5 seconds :D ), I managed to achieve exactly what I wanted. People in corp chat all looked absolutely awesome, and there's much more variety in the portraits. It could of course benefit from more options for clothing, hair, decorations etc, and maybe more work could have been put into keeping the essential features of the old bloodlines.
P.S. Yesterday evening in Seyllin <3 next time I bring bigger guns.
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14Kfrack
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Posted - 2011.01.19 07:34:00 -
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It may not serve all or be of much help, but all of those having trouble in avatar ajustment's as in facial minipulation should try the help menu in the far left lower corner, for each altrication... Also to create more selections you need to right click and hold down after mouse over of each item, you will find there are more selections as for backgrounds and as well clothing etc... You must right click and hold down and wait for skeletal light-up then keep holding down to manipilate each feature... it takes some pracrice as much patients to opererate but in time your avatar will come to life... before doing ur snapshot portrait be sure first that your satisfied or you will be stuck with it! Far as I know the only way it can be corrected is to create a new alt avater then pay out $10.00 to switch character...So try not yo do the same dumb thing as I did. I do not think the team placed enough time in for error's by the novice for us fool many hearted and not have to pay for Errored Avatars they should have placed a reload option when they thought of a back button... uh; huh, ya,in-deed..?
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Levaria
Gallente Incertae Sedis Atlas.
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Posted - 2011.01.19 07:34:00 -
[435]
Originally by: Sparkahn
Originally by: Zilero How about a warning that when you click "Save" in the new portrait generator, that's what you GET.
Seriously, I know the char look is not important at all :P, but when you create a new char you have the option of scrapping it if things are not to your liking after you hit "save".
With old chars that's just not possible and already I hear people complaining that "Gee, I thought I could choose a portrait afterwards" or similar stuff.
CCP, fix it so a warning is displayed when hitting save saying: "Are you SURE this is what you want to look like for the rest of eternity in Eve?"
-zil
THIS. DAMNIT.
ARRRGHH!!!!! I spent almost 2 hours drooling over the 4 different portraits none of which I can now use to swap in and out. The one I created, alas was the least sexiest of the 4 when I hit save. Seriously CCP Whiskey Tango Foxtrot... How about a little warning next time before I hit save telling me that this grin will eternally be in eve. ~Pirates May Cry but Care Bears will die!~
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Ternyeon Schiktol
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Posted - 2011.01.19 07:40:00 -
[436]
I like new set of hotkeys. But seriously, why I have to select an object ONLY on overview window to make hotkeys work. Why can't I just click any object on the space and press hotkey?
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Kasarch
XMX Corp Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2011.01.19 07:46:00 -
[437]
Character creator will be good, when be possible create something like that http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/chronicle/img/Xenocracy.jpg . powered by |
Diveo Slybovious
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Posted - 2011.01.19 07:52:00 -
[438]
Originally by: Ternyeon Schiktol I like new set of hotkeys. But seriously, why I have to select an object ONLY on overview window to make hotkeys work. Why can't I just click any object on the space and press hotkey?
Totally!
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Ortel Fratic
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Posted - 2011.01.19 07:54:00 -
[439]
Originally by: Kasarch Character creator will be good, when be possible create something like that http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/chronicle/img/Xenocracy.jpg .
OMFG!!! I want that so badly...
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Datdaar Vanmestvaalt
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.01.19 08:02:00 -
[440]
Originally by: IQ 001 every single manufacturing / copying job has disappeared from my queues. from what i gather the copying jobs are still in progress since the bpo's have not been returned to my hangers either.
all filters have been fiddled with in an attempt to see them, still no luck.
The same happened to me. I found out that the dates on the tab are wrong. In the 'From date xx-xx-xxxx To date xx-xx-xxxx (which allows to search for jobs started/ending at a certain date) the second date is the same as the first. So unless you have jobs starting and ending on that exact date, you get no results. Changing the second date to today's date solved the problem for me. Hope it helps. |
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Petunia666
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Posted - 2011.01.19 08:07:00 -
[441]
all u guys ranting about a little picture, its just pathetic, maybe u wanna check out some other game like wow.
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VonKolroth
Gallente Anarchist's Anonymous
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Posted - 2011.01.19 08:08:00 -
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CCP,
I am highly upset that there were not enough options to make my toon look and pose exactly like Techno Viking. I am immediately unsubbing all of my accounts (I have 23). I intended to train as many toons as I needed to clear belts in my home mission system within 3 mins.; but alas, I must join the ranks of a million leather wearing space yuppies. This is unacceptable, appearance is VERY IMPORTANT. This whole expansion has disrupted my chi, and I cannot even finish my daily affirmations due to my online identity crisis. I'm am STRONGLY considering legal action. I need to look the same as I did before only better, with better clothes, not Asian, and an epic ****ton more like Techno Viking.
Love, VonKolroth
P.S. See my new picture CCP? That's smug disregard for all the time, effort, and expertise you SUPPOSEDLY invested in this expansion you didn't make me pay for. ~
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JCache
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.19 08:25:00 -
[443]
Originally by: Iam Solo People here act like they paid for the new xpac or something...
Actually we did, but I see your point. If this was a optional expansion I had to pay for I would be ecstatic... but it isn't. Why would anyone pay for a expansion that ****es them off? Guess what? They wouldn't... Sig removed. Needs more EVE related content. Zymurgist |
Desh Vors
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Posted - 2011.01.19 08:30:00 -
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Edited by: Desh Vors on 19/01/2011 08:31:55 - Retriever and Mackinaw - Whats with the colours?! just no.
- The Station Tab doesnt appear when I first log in - its hidden away, and when it does appear, its gone nuts. A single line of buttons across my screen. Seems to reset to normal if I leave the station and re-dock
Also - my drones dont seem to be working properly - they dont auto attack stuff attacking me when set to aggressive, and the short cuts I've set for them dont seem to be working.
~Desh
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zoolkhan
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2011.01.19 08:31:00 -
[445]
i want my tribal tatoos back.
theyre part of the official backstory and the roleplay.
hand them back to be please, i had them from my birth on and i got used to them.
best regards zoolkhan, brutor tribe ushra'khan
recruiting -forum
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ROD04
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Posted - 2011.01.19 08:32:00 -
[446]
Edited by: ROD04 on 19/01/2011 08:33:26 hmm.... so many critics, yet those same critics aren't qualified to design even a stickman. but i guess since its the feedback you gotta take the "pros" with the "cons".btw ccp great job on the expansion
on another note is their a tutorial on the new extractors for PI. cause i was wondering if one extractor can extract diff. types of minerals each with a different cycle to use up the cpu instead of spending 500 power + 110 power just for one extractor head
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Zarox Ilphukeira
Amarr Oberon Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.01.19 08:33:00 -
[447]
Well... THIS SUCKS!
I dont know where to Start but this so called Expansion is just crap.
We have seen a lot of runt here about the Character Editor but well... the pictures are too small anyway do recognise someone so I dont care. From my perspective the old pictures were good and there was no need to change them. Apart from the fact that you cant recreate your old portrait with the new Editor...
But there are further thinks that are just plain stupid:
The Cyno change Wtf were you thinking? Well this might increase the chances for a few more Capital Kills in Fleets but it basicaly makes moving your own Cap solo impossible. Actualy CCP do you fly Capitals??
Sansha Incursions. While the idea itself to hotdrop Sanshas into peacfull systems is stupid enough its only causing turmoil and thats the last thing you want to have in Eve. There is allread a lot of turmoil around in the Warfare business. And then Cynojamming systmes where Sanshas are in is just an idiots idea. You cant even bring Capitals to get rid of that pest fast nor move your fleets around. So the best time to invade your oponent is when he has a stupid invasion to handle.
If it would not be for all the Friends I have in this game I would Quit right here and now. From your behavior lately its iobvious that you are desperate for RL Money. Well this kind of expansions that ****es off almost every kind of player in this game is not the way to go if you want more subscriptions.
Enjoy the number of active players drop. Cheers
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Eldiora
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Posted - 2011.01.19 08:35:00 -
[448]
Normally I play the game rather than commenting on the forums about it (as I did after the patch, had some great fun with my corp about how char pictures turned out, the ovious stupid ones as well as picking up operations right after a bit of staring and watching)
Now that im done playing my feedback:
+ Download and update of the client went without any issue + Char creator ran smoothly and without much issues I was able to create my chars ( I do have a high spec rig) + I was able to make a well/good looking character that I wanted to keep with the editor for my main that was most important for me and it worked out.
- Far, far too few options, I miss direly tatoos which were part of my avatar for years. The characters look like they are going for a bar round in the 80's to 90's but no clothing would reveal that they are a future space faring race. No nice doodas. All in all the customization options are totally underwhelming. - No real good hair and colour options, ive seen f2p games that have way better customization (maybe not as highres but i can live with not uber graphics if they actually look nice and diverse) - I picked the wrong background since it wouldnt save the picture I highlighted but instead the last taken one (im just glad for my main I had the right posture and looks on all 4 and only fiddled with background)
- Wormholes now bounce you off, my orca didnt like blowing 50km away after landing at the bm for a wormhole. FIX THIS! - Wormholes uncloak you at a much farther range now and it is a horror to scout systems with enemies in them because you cant cloak right off the hole and need to motor away.
- Bugs left to right, at some point i was not able to steer my ship until i did 3 relogs and clearing of cache, it told me i have 0 room of cargospace. So i was sitting there in expensive Loki unable to do anything because my ship bugged out... next to a wormhole in w-space...
- PI my god I have no clue who smoked bad stuff while designing it. I figured out how the extraction process works, but i have no clue how much i really extract. Extraction rates vary from cycle to cycle, the advertised "amount per hour" is by far not what is put out. How am I supposed to organise and plan a multi planet operation as well as pos fuel production?
- I had to stop my extraction process, first i had an output of like 20k units, after i redid some stuff it suddenly went down to 15k. After that i tried stopping again, made no changes... down to 10k. What is going on with the values displayed for extraction?
- Where is the beta new Neocom and the overworked Contracts menu?!
all in all, as a player I did the same what I normally do, pvp in wormhole space. As far as the experience of the new patch goes it is 90% negative and 10% laughing over stupid looking characters.
CCP this is not commiting to excellence, this is messing up features that could be good big time.
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Scapogo
Amarr Quondam Souls of the Universe corporation R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2011.01.19 08:36:00 -
[449]
Ok so my feedback
1) Character creator SUX hard, i wish i can get my old char back. I hope its unfinished and we will get more options soon. There are limits everywhere. Again it SUX
2) Why you changed button order again!!!! And did someone actually think about that Dock button on bottom. I think most of the times i want dock so i use it often, why is it last option?!
3) I like PI, thanks CCP for this. Finally its useful for normal ppl.
4) Improvements in POS fuel window, great
5) Improvements in contract, great. Cant wait to get rest of new contract system.
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MarcAnge Draco
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Posted - 2011.01.19 08:40:00 -
[450]
Character Creator has potential and the results are far superior than the old avatars, but there are some bad calls on how the CC is implemented.
Suggestions for improvement:
ò When editing the character, stop the moving background and the had/eye movements etc. It makes the frame rate crappy and it makes it difficult to sculpt it properly, because the head is bobbing all over the place.
ò Make a button that toggles the head/eye movements on and off, and eliminate the needless rotating graphic behind the head. It does NOTHING but add lag to the editor.
ò As others have noted, making the warning about saving the new avatar a warning dialog box before committing
ò Add the ability to do two-tone facial hair
òáAdd the ability to create salt-n-pepper older hair coloring for men
ò Add more hairstyles, ones that look they belong on someone who isn't a twenty something
ò Allow more jaw-line sculpting (all the Gallente jaw-lines on the men look like GQ
ò Different styles of facial hair are needed as well. Several mustaches (just stache's) would help a lot since the only stand-alone mustache for the Gallente men looks like a Freddie Mercury ****-stash
ò All the sunglasses are lame looking aviator style glasses. Mix them up with more styles, and have regular (stylish) reading glasses, etc.
ò Have long-sleeve shirts for the men and not just club/gym-rat style shirts.
òáAdd a variety of business style suits (many of us play CEOs/leaders of corporations.
òáAllow changes in height (this seriously limits the overall body look to basically tall slim body types)
ò Allow making very different body types (even when reducing musculature to min. and weight to max. you still don't get someone who is anywhere near overweight.. this should be an option).
òáLikewise, the posing is very limited in making facial expressions (can't make genuine smiles)
On the whole, I found the CC a good first stab, but needs some serious upgrading. If CCP were to take these (and the numerous other suggestions that people are offering) seriously and roll them into the next rev. (and allow people to fix the avatars when/if these much needed improvements are implemented) it would go a long way to achieving a great CC.
PI changes seem good for the most part, however some comments/suggestions:
ò You still can't see basic ship controls in planet mode, like being able to see/active mining modules (or example) while in Plant View mode. This still makes it a massive headache when in the middle of dealing with colonies while out mining, you need to restart a mining laser, etc. and have to exit PI mode just to see which mining laser had its asteroid depleted.
òStill unclear if you can set-up routing between storage modules
ò Still can't seem to nickname any colony/planet assets
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Dr Sheepbringer
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.01.19 08:40:00 -
[451]
I also agree that the creator is...well small. The whole idea was to get some more depth to the character and setting. I can fully understand this and also the new technical things (they being rendered by the hamsters) that help with lag, but....
if the thing was to achieve a more personal and in depth experience of the eve-universe...then why oh why are there SO LITTLE choices!? Long hair...oh, one. Sunglasses...one model with different shades?! I don't want a top-gun lookalike! I wanted something like the glasses Jeremy Irons wore in die hard 3! Yes, I know you can't make EVERYTHING, but still..if you are going to make a "revolutionary" tech around characters then by all means have choices!
I did get a "ok" avatar, but it was far from what I see myself in Eve. I'm gallente so we don't really have that much tattoos, but for christ sake! Matari are tribal people!!! They HAD tattoos.
On a sidenote...now that the avatar is done...and all the funky 3D choices made...Yay, I got a avatar. That's it? Is that all we get until incarna comes out? No idle character "station rotation"? Is incarna the next place where I will SEE my character?
Originally by: CCP Shadow Dr. Sheepbringer -- It's not that kind of horn.
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Ragnoroc
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Posted - 2011.01.19 08:42:00 -
[452]
Originally by: Petunia666 all u guys ranting about a little picture, its just pathetic, maybe u wanna check out some other game like wow.
It seems to me that those of us who are *****ing have been around for 7 years and got used to our faces, most in this category have multiple accounts and have been supporting CCP for years with our money.
Strange, but after all this time you do get attached to your toon, it becomes part of you, not being able to recreate the you of 7 years is a real bummer!
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Elara Vrossendream
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Posted - 2011.01.19 08:47:00 -
[453]
Now I'd like to see a big big letter from the CCP Crew with an explanation of this failure. As you see all customers are really mad and aren't satisfied at all.
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Yokai Mitsuhide
Amarr Yokai Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.01.19 08:49:00 -
[454]
Love the more realistic mature characters...but the lack of options makes us all look alike...its kind of disappointing :(
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neutrinone
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Posted - 2011.01.19 08:51:00 -
[455]
Absolutly amazing ! Eve online for ever !
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CAPSLOCKBROKEN CEO
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Posted - 2011.01.19 08:51:00 -
[456]
Originally by: Captain Jew how does this damn camera even work, how am I supposed to know that it's on?
/Incursion
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Vorre
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Posted - 2011.01.19 08:52:00 -
[457]
yes wery dissapointed with the character creator, wan't more hairstyles,clothes,tattoos,piercings/jewelry/implants etc
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Uicely
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.19 08:58:00 -
[458]
Horizontal autoplot dots are horrible, now the dots are under my chat windows and can't see them. Don't really want to do a total over haul of my personal window positions. Or if I'm using the market then they also get hidden....
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Maia
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Posted - 2011.01.19 09:04:00 -
[459]
Originally by: Levaria
ARRRGHH!!!!! I spent almost 2 hours drooling over the 4 different portraits none of which I can now use to swap in and out. The one I created, alas was the least sexiest of the 4 when I hit save. Seriously CCP Whiskey Tango Foxtrot... How about a little warning next time before I hit save telling me that this grin will eternally be in eve.
Yes, i can only agree to this... spending hours to create the new char and 4 portraits and then *click* all is gone. Now i wish i could go one step back or as said have a little warning BEFORE...
is it possible to get a the "no face status" back? again i would spend some hours for my char re-creation, but i would be a bit more cautious when i choose "the final version".
Too switch between the portraits - as i thought - will probably remain a wish
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Br'ed Pitt
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Posted - 2011.01.19 09:12:00 -
[460]
Bug: daytrading is bugged
I cannot make remote buy orders, although I have the skill at 5 Being 8 jumps from the station, I get the message that I should be within 50 jumps to make a remote buy order
Pls fix
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Sahnay
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Posted - 2011.01.19 09:12:00 -
[461]
While i sure do find the new creator amazing some major "best in industry" features are definitely missing:
# undo (ctrl+z) !! # save / resume (at least you should go on from where you left last time)
There's absolutely no way of doing anything incrementally, yet it's so vast with the 2 stages sculpting and shooting;
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DDARK VVADER
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2011.01.19 09:15:00 -
[462]
Well the Character creator is simply stunning visually wise, no issues with the installation either.
My concerns are lack of more customization clothing dept wise and in addition that any Ammar toon I try to make looks like they are in their late 40's no matter how youthful I try to make them. Oh and a little warning before letting us hit save to let us know That this is the portrait that we want to use, I do hope CCP addresses this as many were affected by it.
BBQ'ing infidels one Tachyon zap at a time |
Cerys Magente
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.01.19 09:21:00 -
[463]
Hugely disappointed in the character creator - would rather have no face at all than settle for what the character creator permits.
Can we please have a burqa option so we can shroud our characters rather than have to look at those awful hairstyles, terrible makeup and hideous clothes?
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Tylian Sera
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Posted - 2011.01.19 09:21:00 -
[464]
A popup message would be nice explaining, that if you click on the next button, the selected picture will be your new profile pic. |
Vaishmael
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Posted - 2011.01.19 09:31:00 -
[465]
Originally by: Tylian Sera A popup message would be nice explaining, that if you click on the next button, the selected picture will be your new profile pic.
I'm Amarr so OBVIOUSLY I am unhappy with the character creator.. Looking friggen 50-60 years old and all, I didn't choose Ni Kunni for a reason, you used to be able to make Amarr look younger.
I hope CCP drops an explanation or lets people pay to switch races, I would be Caldari in a heart beat now.
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lushn
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Posted - 2011.01.19 09:33:00 -
[466]
CCP give up . accept that it doesnt work.
Give up to keep one cerver cluster, seperate servers. Most MMORG doing that.
One server for avatar lovers. Something like imvu They buy clothes, wigs for their characters,
One server for PVP lovers , no need complex game like eve for them. only one fire , one reload button enuf . They bully each other there.
And finaly one server for us, industrials-miners , change PI as smae as before. We mine, build there quietly , in peace.
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Turelus
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2011.01.19 09:34:00 -
[467]
For those asking for cloth remember that for the moment you are only taking a snapshot of you characters head/face. The need for awesome looking clothes is not yet needed as CCP can add those in later and let you get changed once Incarna hits.
What the Character creator does need is a massive look at the avatar faces and head options. Currently I am sat in empire looking at local and with every image generated I am able to tell the difference in only a few bloodlines. CCP seem like they wanted to hold onto the unique aspect of their bloodlines but didn't focus on developing the things that made them unique.
The Brutors sunglasses have now been unlocked for everyone and this is the only accessory that seems to be implemented at this time. There were some major changes to the basics of the bloodlines which I'm still annoyed with and seem to have upset many others here.
EVE Online has one option at the moment to make it's players stand apart from one another that is our portraits, I would hope that CCP sees all the tears and complaints here and actually takes them on board instead of thinking this update was a massive success. It has potential but you needed to focus more on what was there with the bloodlines and less on what you could change for them. Locked hairstyles and clothes are not a bad thing! the problem was you changed who had what after we made our choices! Would you be happy if you brought a car because it was blue then a year later someone came and resprayed it orange? a strange way of putting it but it's kind of what happened here.
I was one of the few who sat and tested Carbon from it's first release on SISI it started well you were taking our feedback and making lots of great changes and additions most of the features in it now are things that people asked for during development. Myself and a few other Deteis players testing asked for one thing which was you add black hair back in (it was in until the final test version was released). Others told you that characters moving around and blinking was annoying while you make a character and we needed and on/off option for that.
I hope there are Devs reading this who want to make the haters love again, portraits may have no impact on the game but they are our one way to truly express ourselves in this game. now it seems to have been changed into something many are not happy with.
/me ends rant.
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Tylian Sera
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Posted - 2011.01.19 09:38:00 -
[468]
Originally by: Lego Maniac This must have been asked already, but as far as Minmatar glasses go, is there anything besides aviators that eat up half your face? They make me feel like I'm about to go play beach volleyball with Tom Cruise in some flaming 80's movie about Navy pilots.
I know, I know, I should work on that security thing. But honestly.
I've Lolled :D, Top Gun FTW
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Bright Shadowstar
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Posted - 2011.01.19 09:47:00 -
[469]
This may be answered BUT it took me 11hrs to finally be able to download this upgrade then I went to bed. Trying to use the character thingy and all I can see is a set of teeth on a black background! What can I do??
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Karos Vandarl
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Posted - 2011.01.19 09:51:00 -
[470]
I have 2 acc. one toon on each.
my main karos did well from the chacter creator , he looks exactly the way ive alays imagined him, my second chacter is sarok and hes amarrian.....and the chacter creater cant make him look good i tried for nearly 2 hrs and the best i could manage was to turn the lighting down and face him at an angle so you cant see how bad he looks.
also the clothing selection is VERY VERY poor. far too few options. no customisation nand mostof the avalable options are bland and indisinct.
The new PI system now means means my production has droped by about 1/3 making it useless. so ill not be bothering with it anymore.
The yellow reteiver and the orange makky are just plain HIDEOUS....please find out which dev gave his 7 y/o child the colouring crayons and make him look at them for an hour or so until he realises what a terrible mistake he has made.
so to summerise
1) clothing : lame 2) PI : broken 3) mining barges : Ugly
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Nindae
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Posted - 2011.01.19 09:57:00 -
[471]
Originally by: Karia Sur very disappointed.
Created 1 character on my first account, remember reading that you could tinker about with it for a grace period, so hit save as wanted to see the rest of the updates ingame. Logged out and back in to find that once you hit save your fecked, your stuck with that portrait for ever (unless you intend lining CCPs wallets even more in the future).
.....
Exactly. And when checking patch notes if I remember it well, there is green sentence ADDED, that we are now stuck with portrait for ever! CCP be so kind and put some "reset" button so we can have at least 3 attempts.
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Davina Varan
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Posted - 2011.01.19 10:03:00 -
[472]
My hair should be very dark brown or black.
Could not choose this color on this character.
Dont they have hair dye in the future ?.
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Aramaki Section9
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Posted - 2011.01.19 10:10:00 -
[473]
To me, new character creator and the engine is awesome. However, considering we can not customize our look untill the incarna (buying clothes, eye wears, in station barbers....I hope) there should have been more clothes, diffrent hair styles and definately more eye wear styles for this expansion. I believe that 1.2 gigs of patch wasnt necessary to just create a portrait, but it makes me to wait incarna impatiently.
CCP give people 3 chance of creating their portrait for a month period, this way you can make most of us happy and satisfied.
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Hellinsane
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Posted - 2011.01.19 10:14:00 -
[474]
I am really disappointed too. The number of clothes, hair styles, backgrounds, etc., itÆs a joke right ? I hope so, like many others, and I really hope that when Incarna comes out we will have option to one more time recreate characters with new stuff and fixed bugs, its not so hard so common, make people paying you satisfied. And also whats the thing with modify market order, why the window is not in focus anymore ? And for gods sake allow some/any market shortcuts and make our playtimes easier. Common CCP!!
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Mrs Zor
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Posted - 2011.01.19 10:24:00 -
[475]
Originally by: Imiarr Timshae Edited by: Imiarr Timshae on 18/01/2011 18:20:11
Entire Character Creation System looks rushed and generally unpolished
Character Creation :
1. No Black Hair.
Yeah, I dont like not being allowed to choose black hair for Caldari characters.
Also, PI is broken. After dismantling extractors as required by game mechanics, I cant install any Extractor Control Units in their place. Now all of my planets are down and my POS fuel is still burning without replacement fuel. I hope this gets either fixed ASAP or someone explains how to use the new items, because I cant figure it out.
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JCache
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.19 10:32:00 -
[476]
Originally by: Hellinsane And for gods sake allow some/any market shortcuts and make our playtimes easier.
Amen to that! It's great that they try to improve the UI, but the Market has always been a clickfest with ever changing menus. I also don't understand why it's not possible to view market details from the modify dialog. It's always those little things... Sig removed. Needs more EVE related content. Zymurgist |
Greig Hul
Ore Extraction Technologies
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Posted - 2011.01.19 10:34:00 -
[477]
I do *like* the character creator...as a tool its very neat. The quality of the avatars you can make with it are brilliant.
What i *don't* like, is despite a giant thread on the test server feedback forum screaming for more assets, we are left with very little variability and choice.
There needs to be more assets - deployed over the next few weeks via patches. During this time people should get free edits of their characters.
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Polgara
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Posted - 2011.01.19 10:35:00 -
[478]
Edited by: Polgara on 19/01/2011 10:35:34
Originally by: Never Mri I had a Planet that, after some tweaking could comfortably extract 4 resources. Those were processed into Processed Materials, and the output processed once more to make a Specialized Commodity... Transcranial Microcontrollers. I even had a few extra basic industry processors.
But no more. Even with an Elite Command center, I simply can't get a 4th Extractor Control Unit running. I don't have the powergrid to add a single head unit to it. (The other 3 only run 1 head unit, and I've eliminated all extra industry and storage.)
It feels like someone decided that I had it too easy. And that nobody should be allowed to make Specialized Commodities without carrying stuff from planet to planet. Quote:
I second this, I cant even process 4 resources into t1 on a planet with a lvl5 CC I was making Vaccines on this planet befor the change, is ther some way to harvest 2 resources from 1 ECU that i do not know of??
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Kuea
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Posted - 2011.01.19 10:41:00 -
[479]
Originally by: Jay Wareth Saw the golden retriever on SiSi... now it's on TQ. I love you CCP.
It took me a minute to realize what you meant. Golden. Retriever... get it?
Summary of the feelings for this patch:
Effect on flying spaceships (for me):
+ New shortcuts are nice. - You might get bumped a bit by a WH. - Those two are the complete list.
PI:
+ 14 day programs are nice - the output loss is very steep - less functionality; reduction of what you can do on one planet - Not fun to set up colonies anymore, they've been simplified greatly
Character creator:
+ Looks good - A whole lot less variety then even what SISI had at one point. Hair color options?! - Bad UI for finalizing changes - no warning that changes are final. - No option to go back and redo; combined with the previous item this is a killer.
Customer Relations:
- NEOCOM delayed, but no official announcement of this other than the lack of it in the patch notes. -- No new contracts UI, despite it actually BEING in the patch notes! No announcement even now. - See: Character creator - This one you might not agree with, but:
It actually goes give you guys a bad image if there are 50 threads on the forums asking "what happened to feature x?" with no reply, and 50 threads saying "Lol am I gay looking? oh how hot am I?" have them instead.
Not saying that devs shouldn't be allowed to do what they want, or that they don't have lots of work to do, just that you should be aware of the image this projects.
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Vanessa Fong
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Posted - 2011.01.19 10:57:00 -
[480]
There aren't much clothes to choose from but I love the available makeup and hair dye options for the female characters. Eyeliners, blush and a different hair root color. Love it!
It would be great if there were hair accessories.
Although I'm thinking of filing a petition since my character seems to be too zoomed out of the portrait compared to the snapshots I've taken before saving it.
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VLAD VIRONS
Gallente X-SENSE Technologies
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Posted - 2011.01.19 11:02:00 -
[481]
Edited by: VLAD VIRONS on 19/01/2011 11:02:31 Hi, so where i can find subscription status? on login screen where i choose charakter or in charakter sheet? cant find anything related.
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Dayreth
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Posted - 2011.01.19 11:05:00 -
[482]
I'd like to ask for a "redo character creation" button that will clear current visual appearance. The button should be active for all characters within grace period and for all new characters during first month of play.
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Katharina B
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Posted - 2011.01.19 11:13:00 -
[483]
Hello CCP,
I am totally furious about the last patch (or was it an adon?). Why did I download 1,5Gbyte of wasted ****, which only gets me an absolute worthless and miserable designed char-editor?
The ability of selectings I can do is ridiculous. A few bungle sets of hair. A hand full freaky jackets and trousers with ugly colors which do not match to each other. And why can I ONLY choose clothes like a construction worker? A jacket or waistcoat. Pfft. ****! I want uniforms or a suit like business(wo)man. Better Backgrounds. Mybe I could upload my own background. What should I do with useless nebula backgrounds? You havenÆt even implemented the backgrounds from the old editor. WHY?????? The ability of creating faces is also worthless ****. I tried to recreate my old face (or at least a similar one). IT IS NOT POSSIBLE!!!!!!! :-( I only got a female which looks like all the others now. I can only choose a fat or slim char. OK as a female char, you are able to choose the size of your boobs too.
I was happy to hear, that I am able to recreate my alternative chars some days ago. But it is impossible to get a good looking, unique char TODAY. If I could make a selection, I would have my old face back or keep the ôyou have no faceö picture. -.-
And the thing with the 4 pictures at the portrait editor.. is so lol! Wait.. no! Horrible ****! What is the function of these four pictures?
You ignore your own community which takes the time to test all the pre **** you released on SISI. Proposals how to do it better obviously lands direct in the waste-paper basket, when you pay attention to this at all.
Minus 10 to this fail ôpre beta betaö release. P.S.: What do I have to do, to erase my current picture of this char? And let me know how long your grace-period will be. I would suggest to expand it till year 2100 if your devs just won't learn to hear at the community.
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Sister Rebecca
Amarr Bane Heavy Industries YARRR and CO
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Posted - 2011.01.19 11:14:00 -
[484]
I second a "redo" button. The "save" button is totaly non-obvious, I didn't want to keep that portait :(
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Minkahlyn Elystra
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Posted - 2011.01.19 11:14:00 -
[485]
Although I had initial issues with the Mac patch (really bad job on the delivery guys, seriously) I finally got it going. Have had some little trouble with black screen on start up or returning to login screen but otherwise I have not seen any issues in-game. (System for ref on black login screen: Mac Pro 2009 Octocore 2.66 Nehalem, 12GB Ram, ATI HD4870 512MB)
As for the character generator...my God guys you really nailed it . Not only is it a dream to use (except where is my ability to go and take new snapshots of character or just go back in to ogle in uber-highres?). The output of this thing is truly spectacular. Great effort!! Love the sculpting interface. I really can't say enough about how well you've done on this.
...but please please please let us go back in and take new "photographs" as we choose (not edit the character, just pose and take a new snapshot)
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kradokk zil
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Posted - 2011.01.19 11:15:00 -
[486]
-HI ALL -I dont know why all that negative feedback....well i do know but people are usualy scared from something new,this is a first step of a long prosses,did you want back those ugly portrait from before the patch? lets be positive and help CCP, we are with them building a greater world in EVE univer,i understand some of us were frustrated cose the attachement of their old Portrait, but we have to move on guys as CCP said this is a new ERRA, this will take time before everyone accept it. good luck to all and thank you CCP great job.
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Xina Tutor
Amarr Black Arrows Sev3rance
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Posted - 2011.01.19 11:17:00 -
[487]
That is really really terrible. seriously. And there are less and worse hair options for amarr (and all) than in the beta. Slow, wild hair bugs, and the interface is total rubbish. Give me sliders any day. no tattos, no real racial variation on clothing. And wow, all the characters look the same, imposible to get any variation. My caldari and amarr characters are suddenly twins. Amazing.
Waiting for the redo character button, although I have a feeling it will just get worse.
Very very sad day, and suggestions made by the users during the beta were completely ignored apparently.
My account runs out in 4 days. Maybe for good.
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Andian
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.01.19 11:17:00 -
[488]
/me cries and cries and cries
Good: Avatar creation overall is pretty neat, cutting edge and all that lovelyness, yippee.
Accessories for them (clothes, styles, hardware: far too limited.
4 potraits.. Why, when only one is available when the Save button is hit?
Go back and try again, and add content soon...
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Cresalle
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Posted - 2011.01.19 11:18:00 -
[489]
Edited by: Cresalle on 19/01/2011 11:22:58 My 3rd, 4th and 5th mouse buttons will not map to shortcuts. This feature was working on Sisi?
Also, what happened with the new forums? IPB giving you too much trouble?
Character creator is the same unfinished garbage that was on Sisi before the patch. Thanks a lot for this mind-blowing, ground-breaking feature that's not as good as the creator in any other modern 3D game. :/
Pilot's Liscence tab in the character sheet is a blatant advertisement rather than a useful tool for oh... I dunno... DISPLAYING THE ACCOUNT EXPIRATION DATE? I'm assuming that this is a bug in the brain of some employee and not the outrageously offensive trash that it appears to be. Please locate and 'adjust' the responsible party.
Edit:
Oh, and Sisi appears to be broken, since none of the feedback you recieved appears to have had any effect. If you're going for more money I'd suggest shutting down Sisi to save on electric bills.
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radax permutation
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Posted - 2011.01.19 11:27:00 -
[490]
Originally by: Imiarr Timshae Edited by: Imiarr Timshae on 18/01/2011 18:20:11
Quote:
Character Creator seems to be a body sculpting utility and little else. Alteration of all body parts is fluid and flawless. Only problem is we HAVE to dress them, thus we HAVE to look awful.
Will all be so normal characters dressing and looking like we going disco??! ?? I'm supposed to be a combat vessel commander and i want dresses,tattos, hair for that kind of character weren't we humanoids lost in the other side of a futuristic universe? So why we will look like a 2010 vogue model?... and where gone colors!! black or white hairs 50's stylish absolutely ... so poor dresses choiche...no tattos...1 color light.. how can we personalize with so standard and poor options?
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VLAD VIRONS
Gallente X-SENSE Technologies
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Posted - 2011.01.19 11:28:00 -
[491]
Edited by: VLAD VIRONS on 19/01/2011 11:32:35 EVE Gate: You can now view the status of your subscription from your character sheet.
kk got it, but, is it not more usefull to show this info somewhere ingame?...
!No wait, there nothing about aswell, also under the EVE Gate improvements patch notes its says u can go directly to the market? im still missing something lol
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Kayl Reyer
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Posted - 2011.01.19 11:31:00 -
[492]
I liked it. Puts mass effect to shame!
Lovely piece of work. I do, however, miss my face spikes & ink!
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Dr Sheepbringer
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.01.19 11:32:00 -
[493]
Oh, I forgot the "FINAL" ramble from my previous post. As the avatars are FINAL (and as many times as CCP has said FINAL) and I really do think they are final...you should have made it much much more clearer that they ARE final and there shouldn't have been any bugs relating to "oh, it takes the wrong avatar, not the one you choose" and so on. Accidents have been made and they are FINAL!! *voice of doom*.
Seriously, I think CCP should add more content to the creator and give us a re-design chance due to the problems that have risen. I'm not saying NOW, but in the future or near future. Perhaps with the summer update of incarna (dunno how many incarna updates there will be), but at least at some point. Basically one could say that the avatars went fubar.
The whole thing just "lacks". Even when considering that the patch was 1,2gb...wtf? Those have to be some GIGANTUAL textures in that creator, but it sure as heck doesn't look like it. Even demos from Unreal3 engines and such are the same size with like 1-2 levels of gameplay and models. We have only characters....
Originally by: CCP Shadow Dr. Sheepbringer -- It's not that kind of horn.
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Elara Vrossendream
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Posted - 2011.01.19 11:34:00 -
[494]
Originally by: Maia
Originally by: Levaria
ARRRGHH!!!!! I spent almost 2 hours drooling over the 4 different portraits none of which I can now use to swap in and out. The one I created, alas was the least sexiest of the 4 when I hit save. Seriously CCP Whiskey Tango Foxtrot... How about a little warning next time before I hit save telling me that this grin will eternally be in eve.
Had the same issue .. The last portrait saves,and it's kind of the baddest one.. DAMN EvE What are you doing??
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kradokk zil
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Posted - 2011.01.19 11:34:00 -
[495]
-I dont understandt me too all that negative feetback -ALL WHAT I CAN SAY, big thank to CCP this is just a great job you doing here,people need to be more positive and help CCP,they worked hard to get there.and i love the my new Portrait .this is a new erra,lets be nice and work together...
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Elessar Elian
Weatherlight inc
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Posted - 2011.01.19 11:34:00 -
[496]
I really don't get ppl saying that the new char creation is crap.
Have you guys checked out ANY other game EVER? I mean, there are MMORPGs out there that are based on your character looks and they look like an Amstrad CPC graphic compared to this.
Come on, this is a sci-fi spaceship game not SpaceSims! Even if you want the latter know that although you did not pay for it, you will receive it. And from the looks of it, a superior version of Sims/Second Life.
CCP: The thing looks great, maybe it needs some code tweaking but so far awesome.
Neocom upgrades please? At least admit that you forgot or something?
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cpt Kelmon
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Posted - 2011.01.19 11:35:00 -
[497]
This patch 50% succes to me, the Character Creator is great to some gender/race/bloodline, other are f****d. (Alloy to change Bloodlines)
Where are the caldari Uniforms ? Gallente pimped fashion accessories ? Amarr ImpTrials hairstyle ? Minmatar Tattoos ?
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invartitoare
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Posted - 2011.01.19 11:35:00 -
[498]
Originally by: Nindae
Originally by: Karia Sur very disappointed.
Created 1 character on my first account, remember reading that you could tinker about with it for a grace period, so hit save as wanted to see the rest of the updates ingame. Logged out and back in to find that once you hit save your fecked, your stuck with that portrait for ever (unless you intend lining CCPs wallets even more in the future).
.....
Exactly. And when checking patch notes if I remember it well, there is green sentence ADDED, that we are now stuck with portrait for ever! CCP be so kind and put some "reset" button so we can have at least 3 attempts.
Thank you CCP for taking a dump on everyone again.
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Katharina B
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Posted - 2011.01.19 11:36:00 -
[499]
Originally by: kradokk zil -I dont understandt me too all that negative feetback -ALL WHAT I CAN SAY, big thank to CCP this is just a great job you doing here,people need to be more positive and help CCP,they worked hard to get there.and i love the my new Portrait .this is a new erra,lets be nice and work together...
Recreate your char and you will know, what all these people mean.
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radax permutation
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Posted - 2011.01.19 11:36:00 -
[500]
Originally by: kradokk zil -HI ALL -I dont know why all that negative feedback....well i do know but people are usualy scared from something new,this is a first step of a long prosses,did you want back those ugly portrait from before the patch? lets be positive and help CCP, we are with them building a greater world in EVE univer,i understand some of us were frustrated cose the attachement of their old Portrait, but we have to move on guys as CCP said this is a new ERRA, this will take time before everyone accept it. good luck to all and thank you CCP great job.
Yeah you're right we should be propositive... - add colors - add dresses - add preconfigured faces types (not everyone wants to learn how to design a face) - add dresses (different styles) matching with eve careers - re-add tattos - re-add coloured light spots - add an expression shuffle withing the picture shot section actually seems it works only in first part of application
and finally make it looking like eve char and not like a general char for a general game!!!
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Tom Parriis
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Posted - 2011.01.19 11:37:00 -
[501]
The docking option at the bottom of the list i find very award and cumbersome compared to where it was.
The character creation screen needs an accept box or notice of some kind showing you that the snap shot you have selected on teh left is the one that will be used and NOT the one you have just setup in the main window.
More glasses options would be awesome in the character creation screen
more hair color choices would be nice to, maybe a color wheel to select the color from?
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Masaki Kotozuya
Gallente Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2011.01.19 11:38:00 -
[502]
Sorry for doublepost.
Will CCP actually read this feedback and listen to the fans and players? Because a whole Universe is dissapointed.
I hope Incursion 1.2 will be released and we all will get a new chance. Me and thousands of other would be extremely happy about it..
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Richard Beauclair
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Posted - 2011.01.19 11:44:00 -
[503]
The Character Creator is terribly unfinished... I was so excited when I saw the video, but so disappointed when I tried again and again and came up with the same character. I remember the day when the chances of creating 2 identical characters was really slim...
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McFly
Peanut Factory Good Sax
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Posted - 2011.01.19 11:45:00 -
[504]
I like how we are required to recreate our characters now, its really great considering the tool is obviously only a fraction of what they plan to provide come Incarna. But thankfully we have to do it either now or some time within the grace period.
I mean seriously aviators only? 10 pairs of the same pants with slightly different colors? I understand the creator required a lot of art assets and time. But requiring the entire player base to use what is portion of what will be available to newer players whenever the rest of it is released is annoying.
CCP please stop building a feature, releasing it with part of what u wanted, promising to continue on it and then dumping it to the wayside when the next shiny idea comes along.
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Thirum Aninoda
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Posted - 2011.01.19 11:48:00 -
[505]
F****** BAD JOKE
Character Creation works poorly on a one and a half year old mac. No Shadows and changing the light doesnt affect anything. Auto-Patch and Manual-Patch for Mac Users f***ed up. PI Setups ****ed up. The god damn yield went down to 75%. I really try hard to get the same yield as before patch, but nothing works and so my profits from PI go down by 25%, thanks a lot, because now i cannot pay the damn PLEX out of PI anymore. And if this is the last part of the Incursion Patches, where are all the other promised features??? New NeoCom as an exemple.
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Nai Weil
Caldari M. Corp M. PIRE
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Posted - 2011.01.19 11:48:00 -
[506]
Avatar creation is wonderful, thanks!! It needs a few changes, though:-
A "reset face" feature on the portrait page would be great, as sometimes we fiddle with the face and can't get it back to where it was. I've gone back to the clothing page to change shirt, and thought "wow, he looks good" and when I go back to the portrait face he's still got that constipated look. A reset button to move all the facial muscles back to where they should be without any modification would go a long way to helping us get better pics!
The four pictures on the left need to be at a resolution which is identical to what we will get in the character sheet, so we can see exactly what we're going to get when we click "save". As it is, I've clicked "save" and gotten something which looked slightly different (but sufficiently to annoy on the character select screen. The camera also doesn't seem to be placed properly. I adjust the character as minutely as I can, staring him straight in the eye, and take the pic. It's too small and I can't make out the eyeballs, but it looks about there. I click save, and he's no longer staring at my eyes, and more at my neck or chest. The four pics need to be larger to show us what we're going to get if we can't rely on the big pic in front of us, which will always look awesome due to its resolution!
It would be great if we could redo the portraits without having to petition too, yes.. :)
Thanks for a great update, though - my entire corp looks better, although it's telling that most of them don't look me in the eye like they used to anymore.
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Amun Khonsu
Royal Order of Security Specialists
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Posted - 2011.01.19 11:48:00 -
[507]
Originally by: Dayreth I'd like to ask for a "redo character creation" button that will clear current visual appearance. The button should be active for all characters within grace period and for all new characters during first month of play.
I second this too.
Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts. |
salabeth
Caldari Planetary Colony Construction
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Posted - 2011.01.19 11:49:00 -
[508]
Originally by: kradokk zil -I dont understandt me too all that negative feetback -ALL WHAT I CAN SAY, big thank to CCP this is just a great job you doing here,people need to be more positive and help CCP,they worked hard to get there.and i love the my new Portrait .this is a new erra,lets be nice and work together...
What new portrait?? or are you alt posting so your main doesnt look like a fanboy.
I should have switched to the higher graphics like it told me but my computer was buckling under the pressure already. I will adapt but I will miss my old face, at least evemon still has it for the time being.
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Mimosa Absinthe
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.01.19 11:50:00 -
[509]
New characters do look like they might be gorgeous. However, even after updating the driver for my card I can only see them on the "I lost my contact lenses" graphics settings and I can't sculpt their lovely bodies because I have one frame a second max, which makes me feel like I have all the fine motor control of a 12 month old. Add to that the lag between selecting a hairdo/makeup and actally seeing it.. I have no confidence in the new charrie creator. My greatest fear is having to use it before it is useable, and ending up looking like ****
Also, I can't retrieve even a thumbnail of my old portraits using http://oldportraits.eveonline.com/Character/{character_id}_256.jpg because I have never had to find my character IDs so I don;t know them. I tried one method given here http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=843 on the dev blog but it doesn't work :(
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radax permutation
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Posted - 2011.01.19 11:50:00 -
[510]
Originally by: Bladacticus While I appreciate the potential awesomeness of the character creator, I'm very disappointed. I have two characters. I had hoped to make my main look as close to my original as possible and my less-used char I wanted to really try out all the options. My main used to be Asian looking, but none of the current options will make him look the least bit Asian. My original had long hair, that is no longer an option. You also can't alter the facial expression that much. You can give the guy a frown but you can't give him a sneer or a smile. Just the one bland look.
We've been looking forward to this for months and it's a bit of a downer. Since I've already chosen to do this, I'm REALLY hoping I won't be stuck with this portrait, especially if they make updates.
That is not totally correct (ccp didn't explain so far how this c.c. works) but you can model an expression in the second part of the creactor(where you shot portraits) but when they become a little pic on a show info they only look bad)
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kradokk zil
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Posted - 2011.01.19 11:51:00 -
[511]
-i know it's hard but we will have to move on.just to let you know that most of the pilots are happy with it, yes all that is not at 100% some want this some want that, but with time am sur that will be fixed,i feel confidant this is a big jump ahead.
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Crimson Mash
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Posted - 2011.01.19 11:52:00 -
[512]
I'm fine with my Avatar. I was disappointed, that the whole collection of glasses were only consistant of Pilot sunglasses, which all looked alike. Only the last one had a mirror effect - but it doesn't work in the right manner.
for the ppl, who rant about "I clicked on save and now I have this ugly looking lil boy" - what do u think, "save" will do else? And btw, if you choose to make use of all 4 portraits, not the last one will be your portrait. The last one you've selected, will be your Picture.
Btw why has CCP StevieSG still an old Avatar?
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Athena DiFontaine
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Posted - 2011.01.19 11:53:00 -
[513]
Originally by: cpt Kelmon Edited by: cpt Kelmon on 19/01/2011 11:38:11 This patch 50% success to me, the Character Creator is great to some gender/race/bloodline, other are f****d. (Alloy to change Bloodlines)
Where are the caldari Uniforms ? Gallente pimped fashion accessories ? Amarr ImpTrials hairstyle ? Minmatar Tattoos ?
Well as I said 50% success, good job, but not enought..
Oh man.. are those gone? Bummer. I know they look freaky but FFS, its SPACE in the FUTURE! Its supposed to be a bit freaky.
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Nullforge
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Posted - 2011.01.19 11:54:00 -
[514]
Im loving this patch CCP, so much content (was on sisi testing the whole time).
Unfortunately im getting constant crashes on the character screen, i believe an issue with ATI cards (drivers updated)?
I suppose a fix for that would be great.
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Valuial
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Posted - 2011.01.19 11:55:00 -
[515]
The more people are creating new character, the more it start looking like 80's but with facebook, definitely ugly, completely out of context, look, we are supposed to be in space with uber advanced technology, so why put 80's clothing/hair style.
Eve is for mature audience, yeah, but it doesn't mean vintage...
we don't know what's your future project for this, i fear there will be a skill to craft cloth and stuff (mature did you say?)
But at least do something for the haircut now. this is not that hard go to your nearest hairdresser ask him for a book to help you to choose decent haircut and go on. and if one of you had one of those haircut, please take time to do something for you. we CAN wait more.
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Liandra Xi
Amarr The New Era C0NVICTED
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Posted - 2011.01.19 11:57:00 -
[516]
Thankyou CCP for finally fixing Planetary Interaction, ive clicked those extractors hundreds of thousands of times up till now, and I was worried you might stuff it up, but you have come good for us and PI is finally more fun to setup and less clicks to maintain and worth it for ppl other than those of us who are really obsessed and thus put up with the broken system waiting for today.
Lets see you improve PI even further now, maybe change the Processors to operate more like the new Extractors with a single pin controlling all buildings, other than that im not sure what more could be done to improve it. Well done CCP!
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Mrs Zor
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Posted - 2011.01.19 11:57:00 -
[517]
Edited by: Mrs Zor on 19/01/2011 11:57:08
Originally by: Crimson Mash I'm fine with my Avatar.
for the ppl, who rant about "I clicked on save and now I have this ugly looking lil boy" - what do u think, "save" will do else? And btw, if you choose to make use of all 4 portraits, not the last one will be your portrait. The last one you've selected, will be your Picture.
Btw why has CCP StevieSG still an old Avatar?
When you are in portrait mode and click save intending to save your pose and wanting to go back to character creator to say.. change your clothes and retry a pose without losing the previous... thats it. There is no indication that that is the finalization of your character.
'Save' doesnt necessarily mean Finalize character.. just that you dont want to lose your work.
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Nindae
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Posted - 2011.01.19 12:01:00 -
[518]
Originally by: Dayreth I'd like to ask for a "redo character creation" button that will clear current visual appearance. The button should be active for all characters within grace period and for all new characters during first month of play.
Casting my vote for this too.
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Jagga Spikes
Minmatar Spikes Chop Shop
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Posted - 2011.01.19 12:02:00 -
[519]
STOP MODEL FROM MOVING!!! it has been said so many times, i'm sick of it. put toggle on space key, or something.
why are old backgrounds not available? it's just an image. even if it's old res, some were quite unique (like fist-series).
why is there no long hair for men? even female have very limited long hair selection.
let us mod eye shape. Vherokior begs for bigger eye slits.
where is undo? it was in beta test. tho, if models would STAND STILL we woundn't need undo.
let us re-edit portraits ________________________________ : Forum Bore 'Em : Foamy The Squirrel - [jedi handwave] "There is no spoon." |
Crazy Captin
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Posted - 2011.01.19 12:04:00 -
[520]
are u honnestly telling me in all the universe (btw are we not in a galixy?) their is only one pair of glasses? no tattoos. no good hats if i were u and u cared about ur fan base id put in a crap load more options and let us all retry in a month or two before we get to attached.
thanks.
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NaagaMiner
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Posted - 2011.01.19 12:10:00 -
[521]
At the moment I see lack of Incursion in this expansion.
Comon CCP, I dear you, press the BIG RED BUTTON and unleach the spikes.
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ZarianKrull
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Posted - 2011.01.19 12:10:00 -
[522]
I like the new character creator but wonder why do some have an oriental look about them. I think maybe you should have made a seperate program from the game to get feedback before implementing it to the client because you would have known about certain problems with more detail. videos do not it, you have to then we try it . Remember you customers are humans who just play games sometimes the same game [EVE] for many years,and people are hard wired to remember faces so it it will be problomatic for a few. Remeber this! they are gamers you are not developers,you like new toys they like a familiar place to go to escape reality.Try not to be so abrupt with changes it will scare a few.To them it's like a whole new game to others it's just a game and they go with the flow.By the way you the AI in the game is still very basic,concord ships at the gates do not look like they have a purpose, maybe you should give them one I.E. look like the scanning ships not just hanging there in space banging against each other aimlessly.You had a chance here to bring animation to the portraits [even if they just blinked] .I apreciate everything is sopposed to be going on inside the players head there are little things you can add,yes it,s an online game but it's the players comp that renders it all,your server is just a script and code cruncher,it doesn't render graphics .unless your at a terminal therefore the terminal renders it with the help of a graphics card.Anyway Just one last expression remember the word GAME PLAY AND FAMILIARITY
I do like the changes [what they are] but im techi.
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Tastykle
Gallente Salus Novus United Front Alliance
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Posted - 2011.01.19 12:13:00 -
[523]
Guys, cmon, cool ur jets, im sure ccp will make u happy again.
Im very happy with the cc, but that just bcos i dont give a damn about that portrait, i play bcos its a unique game.
Also i got the impression that eve is a mature game but from the reactions in this thread (ppl crying about the color of pants and such stuff) it looks more like any other kiddo-oriented-mmo.
Good work ccp! luv ya! Great game! Tasty |
Zarox Ilphukeira
Amarr Oberon Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.01.19 12:17:00 -
[524]
Originally by: kradokk zil -HI ALL -I dont know why all that negative feedback....well i do know but people are usualy scared from something new,this is a first step of a long prosses,did you want back those ugly portrait from before the patch? lets be positive and help CCP, we are with them building a greater world in EVE univer,i understand some of us were frustrated cose the attachement of their old Portrait, but we have to move on guys as CCP said this is a new ERRA, this will take time before everyone accept it. good luck to all and thank you CCP great job.
Yes I want my old portrait back because it rocked and that was "me" for the last 3 years. With the new crap I cant even produce something that distantly looks the same.
And CCP is not forging a new ERRA but a new ERROR.
Displaying the Plex advert in the Character sheet is just a slap in the face. This alone should be enough reason to quit.
We are the players, we pay for the development of this game, we pay their wages. With that in Mind dont you think we should be telling CCP what to do instead of CCP telling us that we have to move forward and accept whatever crap they produce?
Well thank god we have a free-market economy and with that we can vote with our money if Eve is still worth 130Ç a year.
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Kamatar
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Posted - 2011.01.19 12:23:00 -
[525]
I didnt read whole 18 pages so i dont know if this is mentioned. Who was thinking that view market details in wallet rightclick menu position should be on bottom is idiot. Same goes for person that put dock in same place.
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Ace Greywolf
Greywolves Emergent Dawn
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Posted - 2011.01.19 12:24:00 -
[526]
Originally by: Nindae
Originally by: Dayreth I'd like to ask for a "redo character creation" button that will clear current visual appearance. The button should be active for all characters within grace period and for all new characters during first month of play.
Casting my vote for this too.
Vote for here for redo button!! Man i look grumpy
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Ravcharas
GREY COUNCIL Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2011.01.19 12:25:00 -
[527]
Edited by: Ravcharas on 19/01/2011 12:26:25 Glad to see the shortcuts made it in! And the login screen looks spiffy with god-rays.
Question about the character creator; I know there are things you want to add, like the tats for example. When they are released, what will happen? Do we get a chance to redesign the entire character, or just the parts effected by new additions. Or will we only be able to re-pose and take new snapshots? How is this meant to work going down the line?
I also believe you should let people get as many do-overs as they'd like for a short while, without having to pester you through petitions. Getting a hang of how the character looks once in thumbnail format is a bit tricky. Also, what happened to the history function in the character creator? It was nice to have a ctrl-z.
Cheerio!
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Matrix Lawnmower
Gallente MAMIGA Corp
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Posted - 2011.01.19 12:37:00 -
[528]
Originally by: Imiarr Timshae Edited by: Imiarr Timshae on 18/01/2011 18:20:11
Character Creation :
1. No Black Hair.
C'moon. People in future space do NOT wear black hair.
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Maki Nomiya
Caldari ACME HARDWARE
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Posted - 2011.01.19 12:43:00 -
[529]
Oh limited options ... even more than before :|
Maybe then I'll just run around in underwear ... once I can get stupid model to stand still long enough to get the right look ... grrr
+1 for the Almost but not quite vote
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Fer DeLance
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Posted - 2011.01.19 12:44:00 -
[530]
The sun in flickering very badly. I use two accounts. With one account the proplem does not exist. But as soon as the second account starts loading, the sun goes crazy, making it very irritating and almost unplayable when you have to look at the direction of the sun.
Also this only happens when the accounts are in windowed mode. During the previous patch the eve client stopped overlaping the task bar, now it has one more problem, flickering. The EVE window mode is going from bad to worse. I have confirmed in game that other ppl have the exact problem. Please fix it, and while you do that, make it that the window mode overlaps the task bar, just like it was two patches ago...
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Venge Daveed
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Posted - 2011.01.19 12:45:00 -
[531]
Originally by: Nindae
Originally by: Dayreth I'd like to ask for a "redo character creation" button that will clear current visual appearance. The button should be active for all characters within grace period and for all new characters during first month of play.
Casting my vote for this too.
Add another zealously shouted vote for this! I could swear that the pic I selected is not the one that became my avatar. In fact, it appears to be the worst of my choices (standing too far back).
I saw a notice during a later login suggesting something to the effect that we file a petition if we want to redo our character and that it may or may not be allowed. Forget the petition. Just allow a grace period for the kinks in the character creation system to be worked out and for folks to become familiar with its use. It sucks to be stuck with an avatar you hate just because we have a one-shot chance in a very different and quirky character creator function. ("Quirky" not necessarily implying crappy. Just VERY different and almost overly functional in a sense.)
Another issue. I cannot see (Mac Pro user) a character pic when checking info on pilots in-game unless I have character detail set to High. Low or Medium shows only "The Shadow" guy with the faintly lighted background.
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Tsetra
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Posted - 2011.01.19 12:47:00 -
[532]
Originally by: Keitaro Baka Seriously, sunglasses, for my gallente male, but no reading glasses? Or a friggin' monocle? Wait sunglasses? You could have at least included a LaForge Visor or something, I'm cruising at warp speed with my sunglasses in my pod. Really?
You do realise that when you are in the pod, you're basically naked? Clothes and all is just how you choose to dress when outside the pod, and holograms -with clothes - portray you when you are in your pod and want to communicate with others.
Regarding this entire thread, I feel I must express great disappointment in my fellow EVE players. This thread is just full of redundant comments like the one above. |
LoRDa RaMOs
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.01.19 12:48:00 -
[533]
Bad: Planetary Interaction SUCKS. - That slider is freaking bothersome. - Slower framerate while in planet mode (around 50% slower than before). - What is it that i should be able to move and that i can't.??? Oh right, the pinheads ¼¼' - Why didn't you integrate the info window with the extraction window on the master extractors?????????? Constant overlapping of windows is annoying
Bad:
- Cannot enter character creation
Very bad patch for me...
Originally by: CCP HTFU
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Miana Batarr
Gallente HeroinPixelSpace
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Posted - 2011.01.19 12:50:00 -
[534]
Edited by: Miana Batarr on 19/01/2011 12:55:18 Well, the character creator is nice BUT waaaay too limited.
And it's not even that there's only one pair of glasses, no hats, limited hair-cuts and clothes. Are you really going to tell me that all the people in the EVE universe have the same height? That noone's really fat? Everybody looks nearly the same already.
And the new shortcut-system is really stupid. You can use the same shortcuts twice (OMFG) and then wonder why your drones don't come back but instead the market opens. Even if you delete the "wrong" shortcut the other will still not work - you have to redo it. Did nobody test this crap? The new shortcuts for Align, Dock, Warp etc. often don't work although a target is selected. You have to select it again (and again sometimes).
There's a shortcut to minimize all windows but it doesn't work correctly. If I open the Map and use it the "World Map Control Panel" is NOT minimized. And (of course ) the shortcut doesn't work the other way round. You cannot get the windows back and there's also no extra shortcut for this function. You manually have to click all the buttons at the bottom of the screen to get back the windows to their usual place and size.
Edit: Well, the "World Map Control Panel" now minimizes correctly. It didn't do yesterday so I guess it was fixed today. Anyway I still don't see a way to unminimize the windows.
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Jazz Tangle
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Posted - 2011.01.19 12:52:00 -
[535]
First of all I have to say the Char creator is definately not bad, it has the ability of producing unique realistic faces, better than I have ever seen in any MMO. props to CCP for that!
The only minor things I dislike are:
1) There's no clear flashy warning that only one of the snapshots you made can and will be used, and you have to select that particular tiny snapshot before pressing save.
2) Lack of choice when it comes to clothing.. But I think Incarna will make us able to choose other clothing in station (and I also hope they will implement a photo option in which you actually can change the pose/look of your avatar, just won't be able to redesign the shape).
For the rest I'm very pleased with the creator, in the old creator you'd often find 'twins' (people who had nearly exactly the same design), and I haven't seen any of those so far and some people rly made some brilliant avatars..
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Miana Batarr
Gallente HeroinPixelSpace
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Posted - 2011.01.19 13:01:00 -
[536]
Originally by: Jazz Tangle
For the rest I'm very pleased with the creator, in the old creator you'd often find 'twins' (people who had nearly exactly the same design), and I haven't seen any of those so far and some people rly made some brilliant avatars..
Then you haven't looked around much. I've seen twins to 3 of my 4 created chars already - within ONE day. Just compare my pic to the thread starter's (CCP StevieSG) pic.
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Renna Sargosy
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Posted - 2011.01.19 13:02:00 -
[537]
I like the new character generator. I also see it needs some final spit and polish but I realize it's just been released so I understand there will be problems with some aspects. I did mess up and forgot that the currently highlighted image became my avatar upon hitting the done button. I wasn't too worried however because I read about the grace period but then as the game opened I got the message that the grace period had ended! Mind that it was only some 17 hours after the patch was released. I think it would have been better to have a few days grace as some of us work at strange hours or live in time zones that are not UTC and cannot be sitting around waiting to test out a new update minutes after it's released. So if the gods of Eve could somehow give us recent arrivals to the game a bit more grace I'd appreciate it. Thanks.
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Chomzd'Slick I
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.19 13:02:00 -
[538]
Originally by: Adellle Nadair There is a slight issue regarding the lighting system for the character portrait system. When you are using the Low Shader Quality the changes made to the lighting intensity and placement options does not change what is actually displayed. While the whole process was a lot of fun, I am disappointed with the result because the lighting for the portrait that was displayed when I selected what to finalize, and the lighting of the portrait used was very different and not what I wanted.
agreed T_T i enjoy the char-making process but could we please... re-take the pic again XD >>>>>>>>>>> fly.gif |
Mia Usaki
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Posted - 2011.01.19 13:03:00 -
[539]
Although it is too early for me to comment about the new Sansha invasion feature since I haven't experienced it yet, I have lots to say about the Planetary Interaction (PI) modifications that were made and the new character editor.
First, I think that the new characters look simply amazing. Everything is better about how they look and I think this is a major improvement over the previous technology. However, I I have to say that the lack of options and choice is disconcerting to say the least. How is it that there is only one model of glasses in the whole universe? Not enough clothes, not enough colour choices for hair/eyes/SKIN!/everything. I was also disappointed that is no choice in the basic face you choose to model from. One bloodline one face. I don't think that's appropriate nor realistic. Unfortunately, it seems that, looking at the Minmatars for example, blacks are warmongering brutes, asians are crafty traders and white men are the smartest engineers. The editor won't allow any variation from that. I never would have thought that the EVE universe would be that bigoted and prejudiced.
For the PI system well, although it was presented to us as a simple change that would simplify our lives you have in fact changed the whole system in a way that make certain types of colonies now completely useless. I happen to be one of those who suffers from that change and my production strategy is now disastrously compromised as I had 5 planets extracting 3 different resources each. I now have only two options available to me : 1) either destroy all my colonies and start over again, redesigning entirely my production strategy. That is going to cost me millions, probably around 25 but up to 45, and that cost is obviously not covered be the measly compensation offered by the extractor refund. 2) either keep my colonies as they are currently, however I'll have to cycle between the production of each resource and each time I change, I'll have to change all my basic industry facilities and reroute everything making this a click fest nightmare. Also, I'll have to somehow find a way to store all the P1 mats in a giant buffer storage somewhere.
So for PI, you have accomplished your goal of making it simpler and more user friendly only for the players who were specializing planets in the production of one commodity. For all others, you've either costs us a lot of money and forced us into specializations, or you've made PI more time consuming than it was before.
In simple words, you've dramatically decreased the size of the sandbox.
PI is not as fun anymore.
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C4LYP50
Invictus Australis
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Posted - 2011.01.19 13:04:00 -
[540]
Having played with the character creator on Sisi several times over the last couple of months, I found both positives and negatives with the live version today:
Positives: Thank you for getting rid of those terrible wheels of misfortune, which were counterintuitive. I found the dropdown system quite easy to use, and the options subkeys (1-?) quite interesting. Overall, I felt the graphics load on my machine was not overwhelming, although I had set all options to highest level before I logged in. (Before I get flamed for this one, please note I'm running WinXP, 2 Gigs ddr2, on a 4 year old motherboard with Intel Quadcore 8200 and a factory set NVidia 8800 GT (512), so not exactly "state of the art".) I had very little lag, and sculpting presented no difficulty @ 1920 X 1080. I feel the accessory/clothing options, while quite limited, were acceptable (no high five, but acceptable) for the release, considering the use intended (character portrait only) at this stage.
Negatives:
Sometimes when posing, you accidently end up sculpting. Sculpting should be disabled by the time you reach the pose/lighting/background phase. The Back Button: Means SCRAP IT ALL. And should be LABELLED as SCRAP. "Back" means, intuitively, to me, "I want to go back a bit (a couple of stages or so) to change something, which will go better with this option I'm at NOW." Yes, the warning box is nice, but we get used to ignoring those, and it looks like a tagged on "fix", which it isn't, really.
Photo Time: At 1920X1080, the actual character creation area you are modeling on is the centre 1/2 (1/4 on each side is used for the interfaces). IE, a tall rectangle. But when you take the photo, it's "squashed" into a square. This has 2 obvious results:
1. your character's face gets fatter. Solution: change the pose area to a square, instead of a rectangle, or warn people to change their resolution to something as close to a square as possible before they start (although this migh fubar the previous stages of creation, I dunno.) THIS, more than any other thing, is annoying, and affects the saved photo immensely.
2. Your character now appears to be looking just over the top of your head, instead of right at you. This can be overcome by trial and error at the viewpoint stage, but it needs to be explained.
Photo Time: Blinking. Just unecessary. Get rid of it. If you can't get rid of it without losing the other facial movements, fix it.
Photo time: I think 4 snapshots is very handy, to compare the changes when you move the pose slightly, or change the lighting. HOWEVER, here I think we need that warning box. "WARNING: You are about to complete your character creation, using the portrait HIGHLIGHTED on the left of your screen. You will not be able to change or recreate this character. ARE YOU SURE?"
Overall Score : 8/10 In my opinion, we got about what I expected. Not a polished product, but usable and quite beautiful, if the player is WILLING TO TAKE THEIR TIME to do it right, and not rush through. I'm satisfied. Saying that though, if its still like this in 6 months, the grade will drop from pass to fail. Good luck.
Brunette By Birth...........Blonde By Nature. ------------------------------------------------ "Your suffering will be legendary, even in Hell." "No tears, please; it's a waste of good suffering." |
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Miana Amannar
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Posted - 2011.01.19 13:06:00 -
[541]
Originally by: Miana Batarr
Originally by: Jazz Tangle
For the rest I'm very pleased with the creator, in the old creator you'd often find 'twins' (people who had nearly exactly the same design), and I haven't seen any of those so far and some people rly made some brilliant avatars..
Then you haven't looked around much. I've seen twins to 3 of my 4 created chars already - within ONE day. Just compare my pic to the thread starter's (CCP StevieSG) pic.
Or compare the pic of this char to Nullforge. We look like twins with different haircuts.
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Jazz Tangle
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Posted - 2011.01.19 13:10:00 -
[542]
Edited by: Jazz Tangle on 19/01/2011 13:11:36
Originally by: Miana Amannar
Then you haven't looked around much. I've seen twins to 3 of my 4 created chars already - within ONE day. Just compare my pic to the thread starter's (CCP StevieSG) pic.
Or compare the pic of this char to Nullforge. We look like twins with different haircuts.
And yours seem to be at least 15 to 20 years older.. I was talking real twins, the ones you guys point out might have similarities but are far from being twins in my opinion..
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Miana Batarr
Gallente HeroinPixelSpace
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Posted - 2011.01.19 13:14:00 -
[543]
Originally by: Jazz Tangle Edited by: Jazz Tangle on 19/01/2011 13:11:36
Originally by: Miana Amannar
Then you haven't looked around much. I've seen twins to 3 of my 4 created chars already - within ONE day. Just compare my pic to the thread starter's (CCP StevieSG) pic.
Or compare the pic of this char to Nullforge. We look like twins with different haircuts.
And yours seem to be at least 15 to 20 years older.. I was talking real twins, the ones you guys point out might have similarities but are far from being twins in my opinion..
Then look at the Pics of the three posts following my last one. If they don't look like twin sisters I don't know. And this happened accidently in one thread.
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Jazz Tangle
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Posted - 2011.01.19 13:18:00 -
[544]
Edited by: Jazz Tangle on 19/01/2011 13:19:41 Edited by: Jazz Tangle on 19/01/2011 13:19:17 Edited by: Jazz Tangle on 19/01/2011 13:18:16
Originally by: Miana Batarr
Then look at the Pics of the three posts following my last one. If they don't look like twin sisters I don't know. And this happened accidently in one thread.
I really don't see any similarities in those except those are women.. I hope you know that you'll get a slightly bigger image when you click the avatar altho I thought the differences are already very visible in the smaller versions. Just paste them in paint and you'll see they are not even close to twins..
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Logarth Khahl
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Posted - 2011.01.19 13:19:00 -
[545]
Well I don't Know how, but with the second attempt Incursion install and I can use it... Pass on the Character Editor I need to check my skills and Mfr Jobs.
I went looking for my outstanding Manufacturing jobs and they wern't showing up in the Science & Industry screen under the 'Jobs' tab.
It seems like the To Date has been prepoulated with the original date I started EVE, hench no jobs were showing.
Good to see that ccp have done extensive testing. Even for the simple things... And what's with the Gold Retriever? Can I sell it for more. LOL
*** I don't suppose we will get any skill SP's to use on training for the downtime due to the massive install and flakey installer??? ***
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Kendra Kane
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Posted - 2011.01.19 13:20:00 -
[546]
I miss skirts, stockings, proper shoes, as well as tattoos, piercings and other jewelry, so things like a girl I like ... (correct scars are also missing).
Otherwise, very nice, but somehow the thing with the camera position and the resulting image made stupid. After I had finished my picture then I realized it was too small in the chat - A preview would be much better and would reduce the number of petitions for sure ...
The different settings for the light are not so great anyway.
The background is also not very good.
Well, I hope that there are still some changes and the way the character to make it new again - It would be best, of course, if one (and at first I thought it would be so), the four snapshots could later change it ...
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Zaerui
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Posted - 2011.01.19 13:26:00 -
[547]
Originally by: Zaerui I'd have to second this comment. I went from having the ability to extract all resource types from a planet (at a reduced yield) to only being able to extract 2-3 types due to the power requirements of the extractor control units and my existing factory structure. This is a pretty easy problem to fix - just reduce the control unit power cost and increase the head cost; you can either have a lot of something or a little of many things. The reduction in clickfest is nice, but my PI production chain is now crippled. I'll work it out with my corpies to share the production burden around if CCP doesn't address this problem, but I feel for the solo players out there; it's now extremely difficult for a solo player to realistically make PI-material goods (was pretty difficult before, but now it's nearly impossible).
So, now I've done PI both in hisec and nullsec. PI for hisec is much improved - get better yield, can actually keep my factories at 100% utilization, produce more goods, can set a reasonable 2-3 day extraction cycle, etc. With the inherent disadvantage of hisec (lower resource count means production lines were limited) the new system has made hisec PI much more appealing. Unfortunately, PI for nullsec is now badly damaged because of those changes. I'm not sure if that was the goal of CCP (nerf nullsec to favor hisec), but have you considered the effect this will have on the market? Chances are, tower fuel will be less costly now as more empire folks will engage in it, but tower mods and tower prices will go through the roof as most of that production is done in low/nullsec and it's going to take at least twice as long to make mods. Maybe that was the goal all along.
Oh, and I have a request for a future patch - could you make the typing window in the forums not skip around if you are typing more than 2 sentances? It looks like the windows wants to stay centered on the text even if it doesn't fit in the window and is really distracting. Most online forums don't have this problem.
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Amara Valde
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Posted - 2011.01.19 13:26:00 -
[548]
I wish we had more backgrounds - at least let us retain all the old backgrounds as they weren't that bad. I also miss how the old backgrounds used to change depending on the lighting, while the new backgrounds are static and totally unaffected by our lighting options.
The portrait preview is also buggy - I was staring straight at the camera when I clicked save and now I'm looking off to the bottom a bit. Wish the preview was larger (you can't really see where the eyes are looking at in the 4 little portrait previews) and more accurate so we can make the correct decision before clicking "save".
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Beaty Mckin
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Posted - 2011.01.19 13:31:00 -
[549]
Originally by: Jazz Tangle For the rest I'm very pleased with the creator, in the old creator you'd often find 'twins' (people who had nearly exactly the same design), and I haven't seen any of those so far and some people rly made some brilliant avatars..
Agreed! I don't know what people mean in this thread when saying that nobody looks unique anymore. It in fact looks like everybody is unique nowadays (except for the shadowguys)!
Sure ù you won't be able to get glossy see-through dresses or outrageous face-tats anymore. But remember, neither can anyone else. Is looking 'unique' really so important compared to, well, looking just the way you want?
Lastly, I have feedback: I love the fact that you can take 4 snapshots - it was certainly a novel solution. Now I don't have to be afraid of changing my pose after I've made a really good one. Just snapshot it and feel-free to play on with the poses.
To me, the point of this feature was totally intuitive, although a lot of posters here seem to disagree. I suspect they might just be disgruntled with their own lack of prudence?
The issue? The issue boils down to unclear instruction. Not everybody clicks the 'help' button, especially not when they are convinced that they've already understood. While you can call that a flaw on the player's part, and not the game's, I'm sure that CCP isn't that elitist ù they just happen to think more highly of their players' prudence/intelligence than they should.
The solution is obvious. Make it clear to even the most clueless that "this is a look you will be stuck with for eternity". Also, make the portrait-choice more obvious out of the 4. Right now the portrait you'll go with just sits in an array of portraits implying that they're all equal and will thus all be accessible later. Perhaps a second, bigger preview of your character, showing only the portrait you've chosen, on the side. Or in the "are you sure?" pop-up.
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Shimmer Gloom
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Posted - 2011.01.19 13:35:00 -
[550]
Where! WHERE! is the NeoCom? No anything on why it's not there! Please devs say something!!!! Other than that I like the new planet ecu's. Saves me some clicking time! I also figured out you can keep redoing your char snapshots so you aren't stuck with a down syndrome look or you eyes closed. Other than that it was fun actually getting my wife involved with the char creation so maybe she will not get so ****ed when she sees me logging in.
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Nai Weil
Caldari M. Corp M. PIRE
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Posted - 2011.01.19 13:37:00 -
[551]
I've found a way round the "preview isn't clear enough" problem which some of us have had before clicking "save". When you save the four previews (or just one), the actual picture is saved to your cache under the "pictures/portraits" folder. You can then alt/tab out and take a good long look at the picture you took and see if it's what you want. It's very clear, and leaves no room for error too!
Now I just need one chance to redo my portrait!! *PussinbootsEYES*
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WNxDeepScout
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Posted - 2011.01.19 13:37:00 -
[552]
My feedback for the latest update is as follows.
The retriever, who spilled the paint? I don't know how else to say it... It seems like the designers worked on all the other ships and did a good job then you look at the retriever and it looks like thy ran out of time and just picked the rust yellow and applied to all surfaces. All the other ships look good.... But this one needs to go back to the paint booth badly.
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Tsetra
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Posted - 2011.01.19 13:39:00 -
[553]
Edited by: Tsetra on 19/01/2011 13:42:41
Originally by: Miana Batarr Then look at the Pics of the three posts following my last one. If they don't look like twin sisters I don't know. And this happened accidently in one thread.
And of course you need to look at the small snapshots used on the forums and ingame - you can't see age differences on them. They're way too small for that
A portrait is made of the background, the lighting, the character and the posing. Sure, the characters themselves might look very similar, at least on a miniature. But you are not represented by your characterù you are represented by your full portrait! And to me, these portraits all look very unique.
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RonPaulReVolt
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.01.19 13:43:00 -
[554]
As much as i wanted to love this update, i cant help but feel like CCP made a huge fuss over this character creator for no reason. Its Laggy as hell, barely any customization, the character is as pale as a vampire, and you dont even get the option to be a black person what the hell? The cloths are incredibly similar were gonna have 30,000 avatars who look exactly the same, cloths are same just different color this update was suppose to revolutionize character customizing, i understand its very high detail, but ive seen more of a cloths selection on some wrestling video game's character creator. The grace period of one week isnt enough, if it was up to me i'd wait until they fixed this crap
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Nozomi nrvqsr
The Rough Riders Ares Protectiva
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Posted - 2011.01.19 13:44:00 -
[555]
I'm kinda satisfied with the character builder. It miss a lot of options, so I wait until the end of the grace period to maybe have access to more option.
But there is something that I need. REally. If I don't hae it, I'll be very disapointed. It a running pun between my mates and me, and all my characters had it.
It's the black fist on a red faction background. I want it. Now. The png 1024+1024 already exist, so it should be trival to add it.
I mean that background.
:rant rant rant:
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Mamba Lev
Masturbating Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2011.01.19 13:56:00 -
[556]
Loving the new autopilot information, could do with being able to move the window with the information in though.
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Eystighvall
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Posted - 2011.01.19 13:59:00 -
[557]
Played with the character creator while it was in beta, but then discovered some concerns when I was re-making my characters ôfor realö. Overall in my opinion it is a fantastic character creator. Here is my feedback what I found missing.
I canÆt add grey hair. There is an outright grey hair color, but I canÆt take say black hair, and add some grey to it. There is a shortage of hair styles, epically for Brutor (black people).
It is cool we can save four portraits before selecting one, but it would be nice to see them up close and large before it is locked in. The pre-views we get are too small.
We canÆt change forehead shape. Some people have foreheads that slant back, some have a little budge etc.
Crows feet is more pronounced in smokers not as much in non-smokers. I would like to add aging to skin without as prominent crows feet at the eyes.
I would like if we could change our portraitÆs pose at any time. Our character is our fixed identity, and our pose or snap-shot should be changeable. Hell it would be cool if it moved like it does in the character creation room. Imagine these forums presenting animated gifs. How cool would that be?
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PheonixSP
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Posted - 2011.01.19 14:01:00 -
[558]
In Russian client tab hotkeys NOT Work !
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Seriously Bored
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.01.19 14:01:00 -
[559]
I'd really like to commend CCP for leapfrogging the uncanny valley. These new character portraits all look fantastic. (And I'm a big fan of my new photorealistic mohawk.)
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Originally by: CCP Big Dumb Object When I nerf something, it takes 2-3 months for your dreams to be crushed.
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Tropikana
Amarr The Rough Riders Ares Protectiva
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Posted - 2011.01.19 14:03:00 -
[560]
Originally by: Nozomi nrvqsr I'm kinda satisfied with the character builder. It miss a lot of options, so I wait until the end of the grace period to maybe have access to more option.
But there is something that I need. REally. If I don't hae it, I'll be very disapointed. It a running pun between my mates and me, and all my characters had it.
It's the black fist on a red faction background. I want it. Now. The png 1024+1024 already exist, so it should be trival to add it.
I mean that background.
:rant rant rant:
This.
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Remigas
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Posted - 2011.01.19 14:20:00 -
[561]
I can create my face but can't save portrait. I don't now, maybe that I'm using ssh tunel to play eve, because university firewall blocks ports
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Amantir Borg
Next Gen Corporation
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Posted - 2011.01.19 14:21:00 -
[562]
I want back my red amarr hood.
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Daftny Litchinova
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.01.19 14:34:00 -
[563]
The new avatar worked fine with me and I like the new look of Daftny. However, like many told before, too few clothes option is strange and I would like to see the possibility to use the other pictures taken and change whenever we want.
*Daftny wanted a skirt, was upset and petitioned it!!!! (joke)
like some others also mentioned, wheres the option to use the new neocom? evegate new forum?
and why changing the position of the 'dock' option?
If it ain't broke, why fix it? remember that!
Later
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Markesian
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Posted - 2011.01.19 14:36:00 -
[564]
Originally by: Chris Camcer Gang bonuses & links are broken with latest patch for some odd reason.
Form fleet with two characters, one as squad member and one as squad commander. Undock squad commander; no bonuses... good! Undock squad member; commander gets bonuses, member does not.
Two people confirming this behaviour so far.
Seeing same flaky gang behaviour here. A session change fixes it, but not consistantly.
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Skyreth
Gallente SOL Combat War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2011.01.19 14:41:00 -
[565]
Just to get off topic, anyone else noticed the lack of CCP posts. Good thinking, "here, lets give them a thread to nag on and lets go have cake..."
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Pugzilla Black
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2011.01.19 14:44:00 -
[566]
Call me crazy... but I like the new updates. My new pic looks better (the UI to make it needs work, but not bad for an initial release) and the overall graphics look better. Another thing I noticed is that the NPCs seem a little tougher - either that or my havoc missiles are weaker. It took 3 times as long as it usually does to clear a hidden hide-away of Blood Raiders.
Has anyone else noticed tougher NPCs?
Pugz
-- Fly Safe, Fly Strong --
Pugz
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Kerr avonn
Minmatar Standard By 10
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Posted - 2011.01.19 14:44:00 -
[567]
Character creator is a bit...meh. But worse is that I am vherokior and now i look Chinese! so there was absolutely no way on earth I could ever recreate my old look.
And the retriever, WTH?
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Derralli
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Posted - 2011.01.19 14:49:00 -
[568]
downloaded and tried to install Incursion 1.1.o but to no avail,now i cannot log in at all :(( any suggestions?
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Zarox Ilphukeira
Amarr Oberon Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.01.19 15:00:00 -
[569]
Originally by: Derralli downloaded and tried to install Incursion 1.1.o but to no avail,now i cannot log in at all :(( any suggestions?
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Rada Ionesco
Caldari Black Reaches Interstellar C.S.
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Posted - 2011.01.19 15:03:00 -
[570]
So why do we not get to fight Sansha until the 25th? So this is basically a PI/CharGen Avatr patch then? When when 25th rolls around is that another patch. The most fun I have had with this expansion is making my character avatars, now that that is over I don't see allot else that we really got out of this tbh. I was kind of hoping to fight some Sansha today.
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Cynthissa
Worm Nation Ash Alliance
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Posted - 2011.01.19 15:05:00 -
[571]
hi omg you trolls:)
CPP good job on new character customization. It still need a lot of work but this is a good start. We need more customization options like make your char as old, scary ugly looking as we want. We should be able adjust our high etc. I assume this is coming in Incarna.
PI is now more interesting and less farmy... thank you
Set destination -- love that idea... canÆt wait for more ui upgrades like that. same story with grupping button.
Overall very happy. Please continue polishing your product.
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Pookie McPook
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Posted - 2011.01.19 15:05:00 -
[572]
Hopefully the Sansha will invade soon so that we have more to talk about than playing with dollys. -----
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Slave slaver
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Posted - 2011.01.19 15:06:00 -
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Edited by: Slave slaver on 19/01/2011 15:08:06 Hi,
I have some issues (didn't read all 19 sites now, so may be duplicates): - Overview: The local is not able to indicate those with neutral standing anymore. I think this will crash a lot of ships in 0.0 now... :-/ - Contracts: You still can't search for blueprint ORIGINAL or COPYs. And the list is not showing whether it is a copy or an original. Those are handled, as if it would be the same. - Missions: My colleague had Zor in "The blockade". - Char-Editor: -- The Photo seems to be created with a wide angle camera. So it is not looking like I am setting him up. :-/ -- There is no info/warning, that only this one photo is goint to be the ONE forever. -- The Photo for selecting is pretty small. When logging in, you are realizing, that the eyes are looking pretty small. Maybe you should show the user the photo in all sizes - like it is used in chats, in the info and a high resolution. -- There is only one type of glasses. They are all looking like a cowboys from the 80th. I am missing those futuristics or those who make the character look a bit smarter. A scientist should look like a scientist. Stereotypes FTW. :D -- Please: black hair and long hair for men. -- Please: let us choose the color of the shirt/"bottom" or whatever. I am not able to build a char with a uniform in exact one color (black or red). - PI: Full Ack to Cynthissa: It looks great now. Stops bots and farmers :D
And yes: I would test on sisi, too. But give me skill points on the live server, for testing. Otherwise there is no incentive for me.
greetings Slave Slaver
By the way: Please introduce a cloak disruptor, for 0.0 systems with Sov, which will diable the cloaking device after a random period of time and block it until he leaves the system (works when he comes back in). So the owner has a CHANCE to scan him. Otherwise there is no chance to know if he is AFK or just waiting. :-/
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Brain Boy
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Posted - 2011.01.19 15:11:00 -
[574]
CCP - the new cc is very nice, responsive to manipulation and while the hair/clothes/accessories are lacking I'm sure there are content packs in the works. What REALLY bugs me is that there are no skeletal morphs, and no extremes in the body morph options.
I wanted to be a short, fat, balding bastard and the best I could do was a slightly pudgy, same-height-as-everyone-else, average looking guy.
I devoutly hope that, come incarna, you'll have addressed this. I'm not asking for **** that reach the bar a full minute before the patron does, but just the usual in human diversity; fat, thin, short, tall, old and young.
If you are going to make realistic avatars, please do so
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Slave slaver
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Posted - 2011.01.19 15:11:00 -
[575]
- The "keep in range" gives you a message: "15:10:02 Notify Keeping Cynosural Generator Array at range (46262.7117157m)"
The long number looks a bit confusing (since the dot in the missle is a bit small int the EVE client on default settings). Maybe it should be round to meters.
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Cankersore Knotwise
Gallente Defender's Call
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Posted - 2011.01.19 15:17:00 -
[576]
I went in realizing it wasn't going to be the same guy as before, and inasmuch I am impressed with the results of everyone's portraits so far. They don't look near as much as twins as the previous.
Voice on Eve Gate....what?! How bout a corp chat instead, that would serve a MUCH better purpose; it might actually make me use it at work.
PI improvements are EXCELLENT! It definitely feels more like Eve than the Farmville click happy interface.
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ninjutzu
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Posted - 2011.01.19 15:21:00 -
[577]
i am very very satisfied with new character creation. I havent seen anything like that anywhere. Good job CCP. And i am pretty sure all the complaining ones just dont have enough imagination to create something nice. Altough clothing doesnt really have lots of options, and its very sad they removed some stuff what was on test server (like long hair for me on caldari achura). but apart of it its an amazing patch and i can tell that from most of my corp mates since all of them really enoyed that.
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Sindjin Hawke
E-TEAM-USA Corp
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Posted - 2011.01.19 15:28:00 -
[578]
Excellent Job to those at CCP! Thank you for all the hard work on Incursion!
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Seriously Bored
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.01.19 15:31:00 -
[579]
Originally by: Kerr avonn Character creator is a bit...meh. But worse is that I am vherokior and now i look Chinese! so there was absolutely no way on earth I could ever recreate my old look.
Dude, shut it. Your portrait looks badass. I'd consider it an improvement.
(And yes, the Vherokior would be the more asian looking race of Minmatar.)
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Originally by: CCP Big Dumb Object When I nerf something, it takes 2-3 months for your dreams to be crushed.
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Ryesk
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Posted - 2011.01.19 15:35:00 -
[580]
I think..therefore I am
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Janus Nightmare
Gallente ECP Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.01.19 15:38:00 -
[581]
The last minute change to the Drone Link Augmentor kinda ****ed me off, as it was added at the bottom of the patch notes at the last minute, after I'd already read them, and I get into a mission and holy hell, I can't kill enemies far away now. Had to call for help from a corpmate to finish the stupid mission when I would have probably failed it otherwise.
You should have fixed the underlying issue with bonuses rather than simply slapping a bandage on a bug and pretending everything is fine and adding even more frickin' skills I have to train just to be able to do what I have been doing for months.
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Mallikanth
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Posted - 2011.01.19 15:48:00 -
[582]
Windows 7 64bit. Exiting eve causes the client to hang. CTRL-ATL-DEL and ending the application is the only solution it seems. Bug report filed with more info and DXDIAG attached.
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Rada Ionesco
Caldari Black Reaches Interstellar C.S.
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Posted - 2011.01.19 15:53:00 -
[583]
Originally by: Rada Ionesco So why do we not get to fight Sansha until the 25th? So this is basically a PI/CharGen Avatar patch then? When when 25th rolls around is that another patch. The most fun I have had with this expansion is making my character avatars, now that that is over I don't see allot else that we really got out of this tbh. I was kind of hoping to fight some Sansha today.
OK I was a little negative there. The CC looks really good, and I did spend the last 4 hours making all new portraits. The PI fix sounds cool, but there is no real money in PI IMO, but that is just my opinion so I know it doesn't really count for much. On to the Sansha thing. I did find a Dev blog I missed about the controlled roll out of the incursions. My bad on missing that. Makes sense, I just thought I would have some sanshas to shoot today. Over all it all looks good but I guess I don't see much new to play with immediately, unless I want to resurrect my PI colonies in a WH or something. I hope the Sansha Incursions go well when they are deployed on the 25th, cause that is about all I see in this patch that really looks entertaining for me so far.
Once again amazing job on the character creator. I hope we get the option to modify them in the future, maybe a Micro Transaction thing or something.
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Moronsin
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Posted - 2011.01.19 15:56:00 -
[584]
Looks great so far.
I really like the change to the Character Customization. All the trolling really isn't helping. I got all the portraits that I wanted.
The change to the destination is very nice; good use of simple yet effective UI.
Moving PLEX into the character screen was a great idea, I love how easy it is to access now.
My only real complaint... Why Move the Dock station menu item?! That seemed fine before.
Cheers, and can't wait to see how the Sansha Incursion goes!
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Essack Leadae
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.19 16:00:00 -
[585]
Edited by: Essack Leadae on 19/01/2011 16:06:28
Apart the fact that the new character creator is annoying as hell to get the old result, and so that I want my old portrait back...
... Why, WHY, do the game now automatically load portrait characters in all channels ?
WHY ? As we didn't lag enough, you want make us lose network bandwidth to get USELESS (yes, useless) stuff without let us choice to do it or not ? If at least there was an option to avoid it...
Or if at least it only concerns corporations/alliance channels, it wouldn't be a problem but it also concerns LOCAL. You know, the channel who can sometimes be full by 1000 players or more ? I know that it load only visible names, but as they often changes (and this is worse in Empire), now I have to let him minimized all the time to avoid the retrieval of all the EVE players.
Also, as they are stored in the Cache folder, they will tend to raise up disk fragmentation. Really a great move, CCP.
There is not the only annoying problem.
Why, WHY, is the system info sections at top left now partially OPAQUE ? It tend to attract me at it is different than before, and that is annoying, especially as I don't see why it is now like this.
And of course, no option nowhere to correct this two things.
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Turelus
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2011.01.19 16:15:00 -
[586]
Originally by: Moronsin
I really like the change to the Character Customization. All the trolling really isn't helping. I got all the portraits that I wanted.
We are not trolling we are complaining! It's great that some people have what they want I'm glad it was a success for the most part. What me and the other negative feedback people want is options that were either in the earlier releases on sisi or were defining parts of our characters.
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Barakkus
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Posted - 2011.01.19 16:22:00 -
[587]
Originally by: Zaerui
Oh, and I have a request for a future patch - could you make the typing window in the forums not skip around if you are typing more than 2 sentances? It looks like the windows wants to stay centered on the text even if it doesn't fit in the window and is really distracting. Most online forums don't have this problem.
You're probably using IE8. Turn on compatibility mode for the forums and your edit box should no longer skip around. - - [SERVICE] Corp Standings For POS anchoring
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Iraherag
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Posted - 2011.01.19 16:25:00 -
[588]
Originally by: Cynthissa CPP good job on new character customization. It still need a lot of work but this is a good start. We need more customization options like make your char as old, scary ugly looking as we want. We should be able adjust our high etc. I assume this is coming in Incarna.
That is exactly the point.
It's a good start, but it's not good enough to replace the old portraits yet. There is currently no way how I could get even close to something similar to some of my old portraits.
But I (and everyone else) lost the old ones and soon I (and everyone else) will have to make a new one. I can only hope that the options will have improved by then...
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Rhogahh
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Posted - 2011.01.19 16:25:00 -
[589]
Overall I like this patch alot. Keyboard shortcuts I've been waiting for a long time, and PI improvements are very good. Good work. Feels like a very good patch.
One thing made me write on the forums: My main does not get the same feel I used to associate it with the previous portrait/avatar. The options to make a male caldari/achura avatar are way too masculine for my preferences.
So one request:
Please allow race/bloodline re-selection. My smallish roleplaying needs are not met atm. One thing I can see this collide, is the ethnic relations skill...
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Tsetra
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Posted - 2011.01.19 16:25:00 -
[590]
Originally by: Essack Leadae ... Why, WHY, do the game now automatically load portrait characters in all channels ?
WHY ? As we didn't lag enough, you want make us lose network bandwidth to get USELESS (yes, useless) stuff without let us choice to do it or not ? If at least there was an option to avoid it...
Or if at least it only concerns corporations/alliance channels, it wouldn't be a problem but it also concerns LOCAL. You know, the channel who can sometimes be full by 1000 players or more ? I know that it load only visible names, but as they often changes (and this is worse in Empire), now I have to let him minimized all the time to avoid the retrieval of all registered EVE players.
Also, as they are stored in the Cache folder, they will tend to raise up disk fragmentation. Really a great move, CCP. Really.
I have to change an automatic script of mine to delete them each hour, to reduce bad effects, and I wonder if I should set it for each five minutes.
Have you actually noticed any performance changes? Are you hitting your bandwidth roof? It goes much quicker now to load the images than it used to, you know.
Frankly your only real argument is the disk fragmentation issue. Unless you're running on a pay-per-megabyte internet subscription.
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Katharina B
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Posted - 2011.01.19 16:29:00 -
[591]
Edited by: Katharina B on 19/01/2011 16:36:06 I got an anwser to a petition concerning the portraits. Mybe I am able to change this picture within a month. After that Iam forced to log on and have to use this small options to create a picture. Are you guys nuts? Do you implement new Hair, New jackets or Suite like a Business Man or a uniform? I do not want to look like a skinhead rapist with only two sorts of jackets or waistcoates. I WILL RECREATE THIS CHAR AND HE / She SCHOULD LOOK LIKE THE CHAR BEFORe THIS ****TY CRAP-THING. :-( After a Month the **** is the same than before. I DEMAND UNIFORMS. Not such a **** what you call clothes!!!!!
Another try is fail!!!! I want content. Not another try with only two options of choices. What a ****!
Give me clothes. Not this ****ing crap of two t-shirts and a Hand full of ****ing hair style. If Iam forced to log in with such a ****ed up face I should cancel my account instantly. No options but I can try to recreate a new picture? WTF!!!! The result would be still the same. ****!
Answer my qeustions! Will there be new content within the Char editor or am i forced to use the same **** like yesterday? Than you can forget, that you will have happy costumers. They petitioned the char editor and all they can do is use the same **** again?
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Geonin
Amarr No.Mercy Merciless.
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Posted - 2011.01.19 16:38:00 -
[592]
Edited by: Geonin on 19/01/2011 16:37:59 Character I made is not what people even see!! wtf?!
Why does it show a HOOD when there is clearly a JACKET ON!?
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Tsetra
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Posted - 2011.01.19 16:38:00 -
[593]
Originally by: C4LYP50 I feel the accessory/clothing options, while quite limited, were acceptable (no high five, but acceptable) for the release, considering the use intended (character portrait only) at this stage.
This sums up any reply CCP posters might make on this issue.
Seriously guys, stop crying about limited clothing choices, it's redundant. Moreover, no-one will look like clones of another just because they have the same clothes. Your portrait contains so much more than that. Yes, it's just your portrait it concerns; not that you should have known this beforehand but you will get to change clothes come Incarna.
I wish somebody'd put this in the first page so people stop making comments about this.
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Lex Avril
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Posted - 2011.01.19 16:49:00 -
[594]
Edited by: Lex Avril on 19/01/2011 16:50:28 we went on Sisi with 3 Domis, stable rep and energy transfer to each other, and couldn't even stand the second spawn of the simplest incursion (1 cruiser and frigs) for just a min.
with basically no bounty and no loot, this is not even worth to consider, should this be the level of dps on Tranquility too.
edit: the encouraging to fleet up is a fine thing.
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Phyllis Tyne
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Posted - 2011.01.19 16:51:00 -
[595]
Originally by: Mijano Seriously what the F, CCP? WHY CAN'T WE CHANGE OUR BLOODLINE?
I don't want my character to look like an African. Why? BECAUSE I AM NOT AN AFRICAN. It's a good thing you don't only have white color-skin like most games, but also Asian as well as African, but it's just so [insert bad word] annoying when I want the look of my character to resemble how I look in real life, I am Scandinavian.
This is bullsh-, and I started playing this game because I actually thought you gave a **** about your players, but now I'm doubtful. This is one of the most unthoughtful events I have ever had the pleasure to be a part of.
My main char's Verokior-imagine my delight to find out I'm now Mongolian! Oddly enough-I also come from a Scandanavian background & the Brutor bloodline was the closest I could get to my own blonde, green eyed looks lol! Hence the aviators of disguise! There has been many people who've been banging on about ALL the issues you guys are only NOW banging on about because you didn't bother to try it on Sisi!Perhaps more of you should have, we might have got furthar-tho i doubt it! Not ONE reply or ackowledgement fromm CCP that they had even bothered to read the threads we posted! I'd give my eye teeth to change bloodline, but we can't even tho it no longer makes a difference!
Far too few choices in in our looks/clothing/hair-no tats etc etc etc-can't change height, shoulders or heads, so we all go to the same brach of Primark & have been shagging our cousins for 20,000 years lol, good luck compliaing guys-some of have been saying the same things for quite some time!
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Feiryred
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Posted - 2011.01.19 16:59:00 -
[596]
Edited by: Feiryred on 19/01/2011 16:59:28 Qoute 'I've noted some people complaining that there aren't a lot of clothing options, well if they had taken the time to do some research or watch some vids from fanfest, they would know that when Incarna comes out, you the player will be able to go and make new clothes (they will be a blue print item like everything else in Eve) you want it, you make it.'
Hands up who wants Hairdressing level 3, Fashion design level 4(requires Gay level5)! ROFL
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Lieka Centar
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Posted - 2011.01.19 17:03:00 -
[597]
Neutral's colour tags not showing up in the local chat channel or in the overview backround colour.
Otherwise decent patch, except maybe my other accounts portrait.
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Spyke BlackIce
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.01.19 17:17:00 -
[598]
Successfully deployed!?
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Arashnir Manoth
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Posted - 2011.01.19 17:26:00 -
[599]
Hi,
Ok so I have a little bit older computer, which apparently my processor does not support SSE2, so whenever I try to run EVE Online,my comp says "SSE2 support is needed to run this program."
So for all of us who have computers with older CPUs, is there a way to change it so that people with SSE can still play?
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Mithrasith
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Posted - 2011.01.19 17:28:00 -
[600]
I had a chance to play with the character creator - you guys did an awesome job!
A few times I kept thinking "I wish it did this.." and eventually with some trial and error it did!
Yes I echo some others that it would be nice to have some further customization (ie hair-styles etc) but overall you guys really out-did yourselves - nice work!
The only thing I would like to request that I didnt find is the ability to elongate the head. I couldnt find a way to to do this. I also didnt see height? Perhaps I missed that. But great job guys
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Essack Leadae
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.19 17:36:00 -
[601]
Originally by: Tsetra Have you actually noticed any performance changes? Are you hitting your bandwidth roof? It goes much quicker now to load the images than it used to, you know.
Frankly your only real argument is the disk fragmentation issue. Unless you're running on a pay-per-megabyte internet subscription.
Before this move, portraits didn't load unless you do a Show Info on them before. You couldn't make much quicker than that. Portraits are not really useful to show, especially as they are so small in the member list that recognize players with them is hasardous. Now, as the camera can be random as I can see in some faces, it is even harder to recognize someone now.
Also, I don't see why CCP try to reduce lag and network efficiency if in the same time, they removed all the work done by adding features that some players can live without. Any reduction of the packet amount sent to the player is a good thing, adding more is stupid.
I don't want to go to Jita now < At least, there is something positive on this move ^^
That don't remove the fact that this patch is in general a good thing, but this thing is more annoying than useful.
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Aemmaria
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Posted - 2011.01.19 17:47:00 -
[602]
Edited by: Aemmaria on 19/01/2011 17:48:13
Originally by: Tsetra
Seriously guys, stop crying about limited clothing choices, it's redundant. Moreover, no-one will look like clones of another just because they have the same clothes. Your portrait contains so much more than that. Yes, it's just your portrait it concerns; not that you should have known this beforehand but you will get to change clothes come Incarna.
I wish somebody'd put this in the first page so people stop making comments about this.
Now, if Your Assuredness can also promise me that I will not need to pay for my portrait changes when finally at least some content arrives, or you promise to pay for that for me - I promise to be calm as never before and do not bother you ever again.
Do we have a deal ?
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Cerecruse
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Posted - 2011.01.19 18:14:00 -
[603]
I cant even log on anymore and it saids that i need SSE2 to run it can someone tell me what SSE2 is?
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Khyara
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Posted - 2011.01.19 18:16:00 -
[604]
Edited by: Khyara on 19/01/2011 18:18:14 Overall I enjoyed the character creator - a couple of observations for female character types:
1) I didnt see a way to change shoulder width. This would be nice if I could do this 2) I couldnt find a way to change height, it would be nice if I could do this 3) I couldnt find a way to change ear length. Again - would be nice. 4) I couldnt find a way to change the hair line - some people have low hair lines, others high hairlines - I would like to be able to make this alteration.
One last thing that Im very surprised at - No black hair. My character always had black hair, and this is an important character design that I purposely chose previously. This seems like a rather large ommission.
Overall I would give the character creator a 8/10 - its pretty d*mn awesome. I hope they take the feedback and improve it further and give us another chance to modify before Incarna.
Oh right - one other obsevation. I have a very modern computer (Core i7 and a 5870 graphics card) when I loaded the character creator I was in windowed mode. I then dragged the window to the largest monitor, and EVE did crash. Not a big deal, but I thought I should mention it incase others try the same.
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Janith Arakz
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Posted - 2011.01.19 18:17:00 -
[605]
Edited by: Janith Arakz on 19/01/2011 18:18:10
Originally by: Cerecruse I cant even log on anymore and it saids that i need SSE2 to run it can someone tell me what SSE2 is?
You sir need to read this.
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Khyara
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Posted - 2011.01.19 18:19:00 -
[606]
Originally by: Janith Arakz Edited by: Janith Arakz on 19/01/2011 18:18:10
Originally by: Cerecruse I cant even log on anymore and it saids that i need SSE2 to run it can someone tell me what SSE2 is?
You sir need to read this.
Love the portriat - love the style btw - nice work Janith
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Vicceroni
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Posted - 2011.01.19 18:31:00 -
[607]
Originally by: Geonin Edited by: Geonin on 19/01/2011 16:37:59 Character I made is not what people even see!! wtf?!
Why does it show a HOOD when there is clearly a JACKET ON!?
This looks like a bug, I created my guy without a hood and he now has one.
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Mr Cleann
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.01.19 18:32:00 -
[608]
Originally by: Divenia
Originally by: Mr Cleann
Originally by: Divenia Just saw my Retriever... *washes eyes out with bleach*
LMAO your avatar looks like a kid out of middle school.
It's the best I could do with her at this point. How about creating yours first before laughing at others.
I plan to just as soon as I get a working client d/l. I keep getting ones that are corrupt or non functional. ATM I am still updating my STO client in preparation of moving to another MMO. Be the kind of man that when your feet hit the floor each morning, the devil says "Oh crap, he's up!"
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Kai Lomu
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Posted - 2011.01.19 18:32:00 -
[609]
Some good news for those who have missed this devblog re. changing their characters if not happy with them:
If you are not happy with the character portrait that you have made for your character, do not despair. In the next few days we are going to give everyone who has already customized their character at that time one re-customization for use during the grace period. This will allow you to restart the character portrait creation process with your current character portrait as the starting point. Please be aware that once you have saved your character portrait it will be final until we introduce in-game re-customization in a future release. CCP Fallout
Full adderess below. Apologies if folks already seen but just flagging... http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1451716
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Janith Arakz
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Posted - 2011.01.19 18:34:00 -
[610]
Originally by: Khyara Love the portriat - love the style btw - nice work Janith
Thanks. :)
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Wolf Spyder
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Posted - 2011.01.19 18:35:00 -
[611]
Soo, Will planetary production / mining get nerfed too when a system is experiencing an incursion?
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Sfynx
Caldari The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.01.19 18:38:00 -
[612]
Edited by: Sfynx on 19/01/2011 18:38:16 Dark hair for Deteis please. Or let me change my bloodline so I can get my desired hair color again. Spiky hair would be nice for Deteis as well, now it is either flat, bald, gay and/or mohawk-ish.
If someone can tell me how I can make my hair just as dark as my beard it is greatly appreciated, apparently my beard can be of the desired color, but not the hair on my head.
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Che Biko
Humanitarian Communists
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Posted - 2011.01.19 18:44:00 -
[613]
I haven't had much play with this expansion yet, but Here's my initial feedback.
First thing I noticed was a pleasant surprise. When I checked my PI colonies, I was expecting to find my running extractors to be removed even though they would normally still run for some time after the deployment of the patch. But I saw you left them there, and still running. Thumbs up for that! It would be nice if I had the comfort of knowing this in advance though.
I was looking forward to using the beta features too, but I'm patient. If they were too buggy than I guess I'm not too sad about that.
Now, the Character creator. I've been able to sculpt my character to my liking. Not perfect, but 9/10. Of course I'm still looking forward to tattoos and more clothes and (long!) hairstyles, but I can wait. It would be nice to be able to pick things from other races styles though. I can see why you want each race to be distinguishable from eachother, but capsuleers can afford to shop out-of-empire. Just mark items as Gallentean etc. or give each race a seperate menu. That way people can still look Amarr etc. if they want to, but can still wear that awesome looking caldari jacket. The sculpting would be a bit easier if the character would remain still if you hovered your mouse over it. I also think that the colourmenu+slider dissappear too quickly. I can imagine someone not noticing it at all. I think it would be nice if the character's head was not focused on the camera as much when you turn his body sideways in sculpt mode. And when you take your portrait, I accidently tilted my body so I looked up/down on it but couldn't figure out how for some time. and the help didn't provide useful info. I finally figured it out that you could do it by leftclick dragging to the side of the character. Some previews of body modification (eye shade, lip colour among them) looked identical to me, and I only figured out the difference when I set the settings to max, uhm, visibility or density or something so I would suggest that the default is set to max. And in some positions it's really hard to tilt the head ( the "<->" thing, not the "+" one).
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Audacity Sens
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Posted - 2011.01.19 18:47:00 -
[614]
My feedback is that I don't like the new portraits. I don't like them at all. And you can't even tell who's an Amarr or who is Gallente or who is Caldari just by looking at them anymore. It's like all races have suddenly become one homogeneous mess and that aspect of Eve has been lost.
Plus they are dull and uninspiring. The futuristic feel has been lost as well. And everyone's wearing the same lame looking glasses! Ugh.
Can we back out of this bad decision? Please?
ps. wtb my old portraits back
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Inquisitor Magneto
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Posted - 2011.01.19 18:54:00 -
[615]
Edited by: Inquisitor Magneto on 19/01/2011 18:55:54 not to be evil or point to out some bad mallice on ccp part but, anyone notice you cant really change the skin color of your amarr race character. I do not now about other race characters but, I was given 4 shades of carcassion color. so i have pale white, white, white with a light tan and then white with some reddish tan. I would not want to think this new system portrays limitation with what color your character can be. in short are there only white people as characters in the amarr empire? Like i said I am not interrested in thoughts or opinions just a true and focused answer about the system itself.
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Cordo Draken
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Posted - 2011.01.19 19:02:00 -
[616]
Originally by: Zilero How about a warning that when you click "Save" in the new portrait generator, that's what you GET.
Seriously, I know the char look is not important at all :P, but when you create a new char you have the option of scrapping it if things are not to your liking after you hit "save".
With old chars that's just not possible and already I hear people complaining that "Gee, I thought I could choose a portrait afterwards" or similar stuff.
CCP, fix it so a warning is displayed when hitting save saying: "Are you SURE this is what you want to look like for the rest of eternity in Eve?"
-zil
^THIS!^
"Save" implies: save your progress. "Done" = you are done+ add "Are you sure this is how you want your character to look?"
I hope you guys plan on adding a lot more stuff as suggested AND then give us the free ability over a set timeframe (another month), to update/fix our characters! This needs to happen or you will have a lot of peaved people. Quality service is part of your dedication to us... Right?
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Mr Cleann
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.01.19 19:19:00 -
[617]
Originally by: Cerecruse I cant even log on anymore and it saids that i need SSE2 to run it can someone tell me what SSE2 is?
You need a new CPU. SSE2 are a type of instruction format that the computer uses to understand things. Since an update that CCP recently received for their servers included an unknown element that removed the SSE2 instruction and updated it with a newer form of instruction without CCP realizing it. It had the misfortune to render people with older machines like P3's and older unable to play eve. If you update the cpu or your system you should be able to run it. Assuming you get a client patch that works.....I just spent 6 hrs for a non working patch. Probably CCP's revenge for my brash post about how I felt about this patch....Feelings that haven't subsided yet btw.
Also CCP has posted a link for that problem you are experiencing. Be the kind of man that when your feet hit the floor each morning, the devil says "Oh crap, he's up!"
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Floydd Heywood
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Posted - 2011.01.19 19:23:00 -
[618]
Just want to say that the new character creator is incredibly awesome. That and the new shortcuts already make this expansion a success for me, without having seen any of these incursions yet
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Mr Cleann
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.01.19 19:38:00 -
[619]
There are a lot of portraits that look great. I think a lot of this hype about the character creator is caused by people that despise change or cant get their character to look the same as it did before the update. Just like I got serious issues with unexpected sudden drops is ship bonuses and resist. Especially when I do missions or mine. Be the kind of man that when your feet hit the floor each morning, the devil says "Oh crap, he's up!"
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Dracnys
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.19 19:43:00 -
[620]
Mixed feelings for Incursion
The character creator feels unfinished, but I see a lot of potential. Too few options for clothes and hairstyles (and no black hair for Deteis!) make people look like clones of each other. Furthermore my computer had severe problems with the carbon graphics, click, wait 3 seconds to see what happened and then click again to correct a mistake is not fun. BUT if one really takes an hour or two to create a good character picture it pays off. Some look truly awesome and I'd love to see them walking in stations. At the moment it's a nice feature with a lot of potential, but too rushed.
Planetary interaction overhaul is great! After testing the old system for some time I decided not to bother with it again, but with this update PI actually became FUN! Setting up a planet for perfect efficiency isn't easy and requires thought and time, the programs are very dynamic and fit into any time schedule for both casual and 24/7 players. I think I'll maintain some planet production, not for the profit, but just for fun. A real life friend decided to resubscribe for Incursion and has a great time getting some ISK again with PI.
Didn't play an Incursion yet, but the concept is a great one and adds what EVE lacked the most until now: real group PVE where playing with a group pays off more than playing alone.
Last but not least, the interface changes. Shortcuts are great and make the game so much better. No more dying because one has to deal with like 5 sub-menus just to have the goddamn pod warp to a safe place, but a simple s+click. Navigation for autopilot is nice eye-candy too.
All in all a good update, but please take your time to make excellent ones!
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The Rincewind
Galaxos Schild Schmiede
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Posted - 2011.01.19 19:44:00 -
[621]
Edited by: The Rincewind on 19/01/2011 19:44:28 maybe it s been said already but want to give my advice too.
Let ppl set their Avatars with what clothers they want also Glasses.
Give all Clothers and Equipment free for ALL Races, thank you.
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Renegade Leader
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Posted - 2011.01.19 20:03:00 -
[622]
Edited by: Renegade Leader on 19/01/2011 20:03:45
There are a lot of portraits that look great. I think a lot of this hype about the character creator is caused by people that despise change or cant get their character to look the same as it did before the update. Just like I got serious issues with unexpected sudden drops is ship bonuses and resist.
Until Verizon gets off its dead ass and ofers better internet connections I don't see my self doing PvP stuff anytime soon. ATM all I can do is mission, mine, build or explore. Maybe a couple other careers. Unfortunately PvP isn't one of them and I think that it is b.s. that CCP didn't recognize that some of their clients might not have the ability to obtain a good connection suitable for PVP and thus have no desire to get involved in that aspect of the game as they don't see it too advantageous to wantonly throw a ship away and spend the next several weeks replacing it.
So as a result to my situation I limit myself to doing missions and other things the game offered up. I got mixed feelings about this patch. So much so that I already canceled both my accounts so that if this game no longer works out for me I wont waste another months fee.
What should have been thought of was the above situation and kept certain areas free from this incursion effects and let it nerf effect occur to those with in the local area that the incursion is at. regardless if its at a station or a belt.
Not all people are care bears. Some people have genuine reasons for not going where angels fear to tread. Hope this issue gets addressed soon. There has to be some give and take for this kind of situation. As the only option I got is to simply log for a few hours when an incursion happens.....ATM I am of the opinion that CCP decided to aim for a particular demographic vice keeping a wide variety of things available for everyone.
BTW if someone comes up with the brain storming idea of moving so I can PvP. I say give me the money or get the fracken banks to sell the foreclosed homes they are sitting on and I might do just that.....unfortunately that is not an option that is available. I got 2 choices. Satellite or 56k. Oh last night I may as well have been on dial up. As The client was d/l at a speed of......56k. It took me 6 hrs to obtain a non-working patch. I hope CCP thinks about this situation and implement a few changes to this patch.....
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jondon1981
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Posted - 2011.01.19 20:05:00 -
[623]
hmm, dont like the "dock" in the right click menu being down at the bottom now, liked at the top where it was. :-)
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Bhattran
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Posted - 2011.01.19 20:07:00 -
[624]
As I expected Incarna character creation is pathetic in the content for hair, cloths, and customization. Perhaps customization will be addressed with body shops but it will cost you via microtransactions and all the content for hair/cloths will as well.
I wanted to believe that those saying 'there will be more content(options_ when it is released' were right but they weren't. We have around 3-4 types of shoes/shirts/pants/jackets each with 2-3 color schemes and that is it. You can't even color them yourself we are limited to the 2-3 color choices someone else made for 1 out of 3 or 4 types of a thing.
Coloring in general is pretty lame, limited options are abound in this creator and of course it can all be augmented but will likely be only available as a microtransaction because afterall they are 'vanity items'. You'd think with the limited options presented in this release CCP wouldn't feel the need to limit it even further like by not letting us paint our clothes however we wanted etc, but nope can't even do that to the free stuff we all share.
Options like scarring, aging, freckles, are pathetic, you have sliders that move but only have 4 settings, off 1, 2, 3. Why bother putting a slider there if the only choices are 1-4, you can't have 1.5 or 3.7 so what is the point?
I played with the CC on sisi weeks ago and all this release did was fill in the holes of most of the WIP products and toss in a few, clothing options. And this is the release where you are going to force everyone to make a new avatar, ie it should be just about 100% complete except for stuff you couldn't do like tattoos. Which means you have no problem giving us pathetic options because you want to make money off us not wanting to be clones of a few hundred characters, wearing the same clothes.
--WIS/Incarna/Ambulation where microtransactions come to play, and uh bars.-- |
Wolf Spyder
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Posted - 2011.01.19 20:18:00 -
[625]
I wonder if my STO Client finished updating..... Decided to d/l it since ccp cant provide me with a good working client....
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Vicceroni
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Posted - 2011.01.19 20:22:00 -
[626]
Originally by: Inquisitor Magneto Edited by: Inquisitor Magneto on 19/01/2011 18:55:54 not to be evil or point to out some bad mallice on ccp part but, anyone notice you cant really change the skin color of your amarr race character. I do not now about other race characters but, I was given 4 shades of carcassion color. so i have pale white, white, white with a light tan and then white with some reddish tan. I would not want to think this new system portrays limitation with what color your character can be. in short are there only white people as characters in the amarr empire? Like i said I am not interrested in thoughts or opinions just a true and focused answer about the system itself.
Yep, Amarr are crotchety old white folks. It's like asking why your human cant have purple skin like an elf, or metal strips intertwined with sinew like a warforged!
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Sewer Urchin
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Posted - 2011.01.19 20:23:00 -
[627]
Edited by: Sewer Urchin on 19/01/2011 20:23:28 quote fail bleh
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Terianna Eri
Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2011.01.19 20:47:00 -
[628]
Edited by: Terianna Eri on 19/01/2011 20:49:50 Feedback: New shortcuts: A++ on execution. Sorting into categories is a nice touch. Would be nice if you could select multiple entries to clear them all at once, but this is not a big issue. Will take some time to get used to all of them but I won't fault you guys for it
Especially like the "unlock target" and "change to next locked target" commands; a shortcut for unlock target was definitely lacking and something I've been hoping for for a long time.
Misc: stop rearranging the position of things on the right click menu, and for the love of god if you must change it, let us change it too. "DOCK" does not go at the bottom of the menu when you right-click on a station.
Character Creator: The good: Makeup and eyes are pretty well-done.
The bad: 1) Unless you make a hugely stereotypical character it's almost impossible to determine what race someone is by the portrait. Diversity in EVE has suffered because of this. Faces are too similar. 2) There's only 3-4 different models for any given type of clothing for a given race. The other options are pallet swaps and even then some of those are pointless - for example shirts #1 and #3 for amarr khanid females (the white shirt with the gold script) are identical as far as I can tell and even if not, they're very similar. Ditto boots. 2a) This could be helped infinity much by giving us a color slider for primary/secondary/tertiary (where applicable) colors on the clothing, like we have for, uh, everything else. Yes some people will make bright ugly color combinations but given that it's already possible to make a stupid character if one wants to I don't really see the problem. 2b) Sometimes when you change clothing, you see that parts of the clothing load separately, and it would be really cool to actually combine different parts of clothes, or leave parts out, or whatever. F.ex, being able to turn off the sleeves on some of the outer jackets (the one I'm wearing right now specifically) would be awesome. 3) Hair: GIVE LENGTH SLIDER PLZ. And the ability to pose the hair or even cut off parts of it. More hairstyles would be nice too. 4) Yes, I know it's coming, but seriously, jewelry / racial deco / tattoos / glasses / scars are all seriously lacking. 5) Ability to get the same lighting in the "portrait" section as you have in the "customize" section. Teri looked hot as hell in the former but I couldn't get the same lighting in the latter and shadows ruined a lot of things 6) Ability to, when saving to one of the 4 "slots" before picking your final portrait, RETURN THE SAVED ONE TO THE FULL MODE SO THAT YOU CAN GET A BETTER VIEW/UPDATE IT. This is a really important one. 7) Character thumbnail doesn't match full-size image. Lighting expecially is much darker on the thumbnail. 8) If you move to low-quality mode (because of HAIR PHYSICS), lighting options don't work in portrait mode sometimes (specifically intensity and color can't be changed). 9) I don't need 7 preset options for light sources. Clearly the technology is there, why don't you let us put on light sources ourselves? ________________
Originally by: CCP Incognito PS the "time to P*nis" is the shortest time recorded in human history. :)
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Inquisitor Magneto
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Posted - 2011.01.19 20:57:00 -
[629]
Originally by: Vicceroni
Originally by: Inquisitor Magneto Edited by: Inquisitor Magneto on 19/01/2011 18:55:54 not to be evil or point to out some bad mallice on ccp part but, anyone notice you cant really change the skin color of your amarr race character. I do not now about other race characters but, I was given 4 shades of carcassion color. so i have pale white, white, white with a light tan and then white with some reddish tan. I would not want to think this new system portrays limitation with what color your character can be. in short are there only white people as characters in the amarr empire? Like i said I am not interrested in thoughts or opinions just a true and focused answer about the system itself.
Yep, Amarr are crotchety old white folks. It's like asking why your human cant have purple skin like an elf, or metal strips intertwined with sinew like a warforged!
There is no proof that all the families are white. their are 5 families besides the emperor who help govern the amarr empire so lets have a bit more diversity in skin color. While i did not say i wanted "purple skin like an elf, or metal strips intertwined with sinew like a warforged" as a color as that is not a human color. one thing is clear on this planet called earth we do have different races with different skin colors. so dont be to ignorant when it comes to color in a world of humans who are not all white. Thanks
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Laura Comerciantes
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Posted - 2011.01.19 20:57:00 -
[630]
Edited by: Laura Comerciantes on 19/01/2011 20:57:56 Edited by: Laura Comerciantes on 19/01/2011 20:57:32 97% of all comments here are negative opinions, 2% are whining/flaming/non-constructive and 1% is positive (allthough, one comment of this 1% praised the new neocom, seems like this one is a paid ghost writer ^^)
629 comments, mostly with constructive criticism and negative feelings about different things and CCP did not ever care to post SOMETHING (not even a "stfu") to comment this. I do work as a software developer and if i would treat my (paying) customers THAT way, i won't earn the money anymore to buy basic food. If any other mass industry would launch a product that underdeveloped as this patch, they all would have to close down (think of cars with non functional gas pedals... oh, wait...)
My opinion about the patch has been said by hundrets of others before (PI - thanks for not be able to produce T3 anymore, CC - thanks for cloning 500k players), so i really want to get a feedback from CCP, no matter what, just a statement about hundrets of upset players - and what is going to calm them down.
Laura
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Terianna Eri
Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2011.01.19 21:00:00 -
[631]
Originally by: Inquisitor Magneto
Originally by: Vicceroni
Originally by: Inquisitor Magneto Edited by: Inquisitor Magneto on 19/01/2011 18:55:54 not to be evil or point to out some bad mallice on ccp part but, anyone notice you cant really change the skin color of your amarr race character. I do not now about other race characters but, I was given 4 shades of carcassion color. so i have pale white, white, white with a light tan and then white with some reddish tan. I would not want to think this new system portrays limitation with what color your character can be. in short are there only white people as characters in the amarr empire? Like i said I am not interrested in thoughts or opinions just a true and focused answer about the system itself.
Yep, Amarr are crotchety old white folks. It's like asking why your human cant have purple skin like an elf, or metal strips intertwined with sinew like a warforged!
There is no proof that all the families are white. their are 5 families besides the emperor who help govern the amarr empire so lets have a bit more diversity in skin color. While i did not say i wanted "purple skin like an elf, or metal strips intertwined with sinew like a warforged" as a color as that is not a human color. one thing is clear on this planet called earth we do have different races with different skin colors. so dont be to ignorant when it comes to color in a world of humans who are not all white. Thanks
It's true hell even the Khanids are mostly white. lol 5 options for "tan" skin and 2 are identical and the rest differ by maybe a hair, and even if the were different atm there's no way to pick something in between, despite the fancy "color wheel" ________________
Originally by: CCP Incognito PS the "time to P*nis" is the shortest time recorded in human history. :)
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Jack Miton
Caldari Capital Construction Research Pioneer Alliance
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Posted - 2011.01.19 21:00:00 -
[632]
So before the patch you could move ships from online ship maintenance arrays (SMAs) to offline ones and back.
Now you can only move a ship from offline to online. Back wont work. You just made it impossible to effectively store capitals and freighters ect at a POS. We cant online capital SMAs because we can't have sov (note WH corp). This means you need 1 online SMA per capital ship you want to store at a POS...
This is just stupid. Change the option back so you can move ships from online sma to offline sma and then its fine. If not, make us be able to use capital SMAs without sov.
This is a NON trivial issue, doubly so for WH corps.
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Percy Soars
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Posted - 2011.01.19 21:04:00 -
[633]
I know its a small thing, but I do like the little change to the route chart, much more efficient and mouseover names is nice.
Thanks
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Floydd Heywood
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Posted - 2011.01.19 21:05:00 -
[634]
Originally by: Laura Comerciantes Edited by: Laura Comerciantes on 19/01/2011 20:57:56 Edited by: Laura Comerciantes on 19/01/2011 20:57:32 97% of all comments here are negative opinions, 2% are whining/flaming/non-constructive and 1% is positive (allthough, one comment of this 1% praised the new neocom, seems like this one is a paid ghost writer ^^)
I see a lot of positive feedback here, so look harder.
In this thread here and as well in my corp chat I do not see two faces similar to one another. Before the change several corpmates looked almost the same. And all the new portraits are awesome. Diversity has definitely increased. And I don't care whether you can determine the race by the portrait because race doesn't matter anyway.
So some people whine about too few choices in clothing. Lol, nobody can see your clothing right now. When the time comes where people can see, you will be able to buy fancy clothes. You want it free? Well, bad luck. EVE is still a business. If you are vain enough to want special clothes, well, buy them. More money for the development of EVE = win
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Khandu Eesi
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Posted - 2011.01.19 21:14:00 -
[635]
Edited by: Khandu Eesi on 19/01/2011 21:15:05 nvm
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Iris Trent
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Posted - 2011.01.19 21:17:00 -
[636]
I had several problems with the recreation of my avatars. First was that my PC didn't like it. So I went to a friend (better PC) and managed it. Soon I found out, that it will be impossible to create avatars looking like the old ones. Then it came clear, that there is only a limited number of clothes and at least one pair of glasses! (with different colors!). So the possibilitys weren't as great as my hopes. Finally I found a solution. Once I was back and logged into the game, the really problems started: My avatar did not look as I mentioned. This was the time i really got shocked. Now I am hoping that there will be a second chance to change it. Otherwise I (and some other players) will have to pay for it!
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Candy Oshea
Amarr Techfree Investment Group
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Posted - 2011.01.19 21:24:00 -
[637]
Really enjoyed the character creator. Didn't get much time to check the other stuff out but i managed to update my character without a hitch.
Jita was abuzz with new faces!
xx
Candy
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Mick Dealer
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Posted - 2011.01.19 21:28:00 -
[638]
So this char is Amarr but I created the portrait without a hood. However,except for the page with the large portrait (the first time you see your portrait), the char shows in game and in the browser with a hood. The initial large portrait that you see during login is the correct portrait. This shouldn't happen unless you designed the portrait to include a hood. I really dislike the hood.
Other than the foregoing, I am very happy with the Character portrait creator. Of course tweaks and improvements could be made, but wow! The portraits look 1000% better (on my other chars, that is.)!
Finally, it seems a pity that this feature is not permanent so you could change your portrait as you feel necessary. A one-time usage seems a big wast of such a great addition to the game.
Cheers
Mick D
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Creh Ester
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Posted - 2011.01.19 21:33:00 -
[639]
Feedback on the Char Editor: Having read this thread yesterday, while downloading-patching-failing-repairdownloading-repairing on two PCs, I must say i got a wee bit worried. Having done my thing, I was rather relieved. Things are much better than one might think. Still: I take for granted that we'll have more clothes later. Don't know really, why we can't mix the color for our hair arbitrarily? Why didn't you re-use the old backgrounds? Frankly, I seem to remember them as much more awesome than the new. I seem to have a much different view on fitting hairstyle, than the artist who designed the choices, because I'm basically not happy with even a single one of them, male or female. Still, I found some I can live with. As for the 3D sculpting, I think the parameters are too narrow and too few. While I'm happy enough, I do hope you realise we will all look rather the same?
But all in all, I'm happy enough.
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Vanorlexis
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Posted - 2011.01.19 21:34:00 -
[640]
character creator should have had the following options for everyone.
1. Everyone should have the option to choose their ethnicity. 2. Everyone should be able to choose what bone structure they want for the face. 3.Everyone should be able to choose any hair type from any race. 4.Everyone should be able to add scars or tattoos to any part of the body they desire. 5.Everyone should be able to choose their own height.
What CCP doesnt get is Everyone is different and Everyone wants to Be unique in their own way This is a Sandbox game afterall isnt it? Say i want to be an african american civire well i cant be that because caldari are racist and only allow non africans to join. Or what if i want to be an white race now im stuck being asian etc etc etc. more options CCP not less!!!
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Oolon Coluphids
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Posted - 2011.01.19 21:57:00 -
[641]
Character Creator: Love it. The realism of the models is simply brilliant. Free-hand sculpting is pretty useless but awesome non the less. Real options like Hair/Cloth/Scars/Tatoos/Glasses could be more, but well, races/bloodlines should look different and more cloth to come in incarna, so thats fine for now. And the amount of eyebrows, backgrounds and some other options is just ridicoulusly high.
PI: you managed to reduce annoying clicking but not make it simple as hell. Love the new system.
thumbs up
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Salome d'Orien
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Posted - 2011.01.19 22:40:00 -
[642]
The portrait choices are quite limiting. Clothes are not great, would be nice to adapt the colour of the clothes as you can do with the hair etc etc.
Also what happened to the option to change the colour depth in the graphics area? Now when quitting or even a simple Alt-Tab I am left with very annoying "dimmed" desktop. This was fixable before the patch by changing the depth back to 24bit and that option in no longer available and I do not wish to keep clearing my Eve cache to make this adjustment. Please fix this.
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Slave slaver
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Posted - 2011.01.19 22:44:00 -
[643]
Reguarding PI: There is only one extractor per planet now. Could you add a column "programm end" in the science overview? So we don't need to click through every planet. We need longer to restart (cause of the head rearrengement) of the extractors. Programs won't end in a defined 5 minutes windows. The information could help a lot.
Thanks
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Serynna
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Posted - 2011.01.19 23:05:00 -
[644]
The character creator is basically good, but I truly hope it gets some love in future releases. Comments:
1. While it would be useless for portraits, I would like to see a height slider by the time Incarna arrives. I am accustomed to being tall, and would like to stay that way. 2. Even with the sculpting, faces within bloodlines are overly similar. Perhaps allowing players to choose modular bloodline-specific bone structures would help with this. More skin color options might help as well. 3. Hair styles for females seem limited. Hair styles for males are truly horrible. Styles also appear to generally be shared between races. If the styles were unique to bloodlines it would be much easier to identify the race of a character at a glance. (If this happened some styles would only be subtly different... there are only so many ways to make a ponytail, for instance.) 4. While many others have mentioned the lack of clothing, it is bad enough that I must bring it up again. It also needs more accessories (jewelry, scars, contacts, etc.) 5. A ôreset poseö button on the portrait screen would be helpful.
I don't think we should get to choose new races for existing characters (even if my alt is waaay to asian now.) I cannot wake up one day and be German; neither should my character suddenly become Deteis (not that she would want to.)
Overall I am satisfied as long as CCP treats this as a work in progress and continues to add refinements to the system.
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Ravcharas
GREY COUNCIL Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2011.01.19 23:08:00 -
[645]
Originally by: Essack Leadae
... Why, WHY, do the game now automatically load portrait characters in all channels ? This, in all cases, even the member list ?
WHY ? As we didn't lag enough, you want make us lose network bandwidth to get USELESS (yes, useless) stuff without let us choice to do it or not ? If at least there was an option to avoid it...
The old system not loading portraits until you showed info was pretty handy when trying to keep track of people coming and going. "Oh, a silhouette, new contact."
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Rohan Odunen
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Posted - 2011.01.19 23:23:00 -
[646]
While I like the potential of the character creator, I hope they'll expand on what we have for choices in hairstyles, accessories and clothing.
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Rock Zappa
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Posted - 2011.01.19 23:38:00 -
[647]
Character Creator / Generator... After the plastic surgery, I was very happy with the results. Yet, later on, this strange hood appeared over my noggin which I really don't want. Please make it go away. It wasn't there before. Thank you. |
Bhattran
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Posted - 2011.01.19 23:57:00 -
[648]
For those commenting on height we are all the same height and will forever be the same height. CCP couldn't/didn't make it adjustable because it would not work with their technology for characters/clothing, it wasn't scalable 'literally'.
--WIS/Incarna/Ambulation where microtransactions come to play, and uh bars.-- |
Kurrzon Grimwulf
Minmatar Pulse Industries Knights Collective
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Posted - 2011.01.20 00:01:00 -
[649]
I must say, I am REALLY not enjoying this "dynamic" resource locations within PI. Cause, apparently, I have to spend more time then I was before this update, on extracting ore from the planet.
I didnt mind the click fest that much. I was making some good money. But now, I have to take down, and rebuild my ECU every day? Cause the major hot spots of ore keep moving? If this is so, I want my skill points back for all my PI skills. I barely had the time as it was to do the minor click fest we had. Now I have to waist isk on razing the ECU, building it near a hot spot. then building a link that covers half the planet?
Its bad enough that I have to fight others for the prime real estate on each planet. Now I have to keep an ever vigil eye on my colonies? Cause if that ore moves. I have to move that blasted ECU again.
Just give me my skill points back for PI. I dont want to deal with these changes anymore. I was fine with what I had before. Your just wasting more of MY time. That I could be using killing in the Incursion.
Thanks, thanks a lot.
"I may not be the best" "I may not be the worst" "But I will do my best" |
Odin Goibniu
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Posted - 2011.01.20 00:23:00 -
[650]
Just sad
Grats CCP, you wrecked PI. It was ok before, I didn't mind the clickfest, but now making a P3 on a single planet is next to impossible, I can't even make the same amount of mechanical parts or other P2 goodies as I used to...
The character creator looks about 50% done. You left out scars, tatoos, and a decent amount of clothes. And whose bright idea was it to have an Amarrian wear aviator sun glasses.....
This is an alt, and this account will cease to exist. So grats again on losing 50% of my business...
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Jayne Whitecoat
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Posted - 2011.01.20 00:32:00 -
[651]
I've been browsing through this thread to see if others have encountered PI issues like those that I've run in to and I've put in quotes from two people that sum it up fairly well (and those quotes are below.)
Basically, I think PI got nerfed and I am willing to be optimistic and think that it was an accident. I have to think that they'll end up patching the PI thing somehow (what would make the most sense to me is to let one Extractor Control Unit run several different types of extractor hubs ie. let it mine more than one planet 'mineral' type at the same time.) Things like Nanite Repair Paste are already more expensive to make than the market will bear and then CCP (apparently accidentally) messes things up so that it is even harder to make them (and thus prices will go up even more.) If the goal was to increase costs of Advanced Commodities (and thus starbase/sov structures) then this would make sense, but those things are already more expensive than when they were NPC seeded, as I understand it. Please de-nerf lowsec/0.0 PI :)
Originally by: Zaerui
Originally by: Zaerui I'd have to second this comment. I went from having the ability to extract all resource types from a planet (at a reduced yield) to only being able to extract 2-3 types due to the power requirements of the extractor control units and my existing factory structure. This is a pretty easy problem to fix - just reduce the control unit power cost and increase the head cost; you can either have a lot of something or a little of many things. The reduction in clickfest is nice, but my PI production chain is now crippled. I'll work it out with my corpies to share the production burden around if CCP doesn't address this problem, but I feel for the solo players out there; it's now extremely difficult for a solo player to realistically make PI-material goods (was pretty difficult before, but now it's nearly impossible).
So, now I've done PI both in hisec and nullsec. PI for hisec is much improved - get better yield, can actually keep my factories at 100% utilization, produce more goods, can set a reasonable 2-3 day extraction cycle, etc. With the inherent disadvantage of hisec (lower resource count means production lines were limited) the new system has made hisec PI much more appealing. Unfortunately, PI for nullsec is now badly damaged because of those changes. I'm not sure if that was the goal of CCP (nerf nullsec to favor hisec), but have you considered the effect this will have on the market? Chances are, tower fuel will be less costly now as more empire folks will engage in it, but tower mods and tower prices will go through the roof as most of that production is done in low/nullsec and it's going to take at least twice as long to make mods. Maybe that was the goal all along.
Originally by: Mia Usaki For the PI system well, although it was presented to us as a simple change that would simplify our lives you have in fact changed the whole system in a way that make certain types of colonies now completely useless. I happen to be one of those who suffers from that change and my production strategy is now disastrously compromised as I had 5 planets extracting 3 different resources each. I now have only two options available to me : 1) either destroy all my colonies and start over again, redesigning entirely my production strategy. That is going to cost me millions, probably around 25 but up to 45, and that cost is obviously not covered be the measly compensation offered by the extractor refund. 2) either keep my colonies as they are currently, however I'll have to cycle between the production of each resource and each time I change, I'll have to change all my basic industry facilities and reroute everything making this a click fest nightmare. Also, I'll have to somehow find a way to store all the P1 mats in a giant buffer storage somewhere. ...
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Zasx
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Posted - 2011.01.20 00:56:00 -
[652]
Originally by: Airyn Farscape I would like to even be able to create my character. I have been waiting on a black screen for 20 minutes. I have a decent graphics card and could play the game just fine, but won't load the Creator. Same for my husband who has an Nvidia 9800, so yeah. Definitely fail :(
Neither of my computers seem to be able to handle the new character creator. One it wont load same as you all be it that is an older dual core laptop with not the greatest chipset. It does run all other aspects of eve. My desktop a 3.8 ghz xenon processor with a fairly decent 512meg pci express 16 video card nvidia I think lets me edit the character. However when I go to the next screen it hung. I waited 20 minutes. Rebooted Tweaked settings as low as they would go. Killed anti-virus firewall. Even reinstalled. No love. Can not get father than seeing a eve style hourglass (spiny circular thing) and the back save buttons and a ? I just hope I can get one of these to work.
Zasx and Ruyne IBR
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mkmin
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Posted - 2011.01.20 01:24:00 -
[653]
On top of the standard character creator complaints the lack of content means no matter how much polish you think it has, the results will look bland, boring, uninspiring. I really hope that's the review the gaming magazines and sites give it. The posing system shows no real understanding of human physiology. The lighting system is even worse than the old creator which had more granularity and options for colored lighting. Some decent content would have gotten this a B+. Actual Grade: D
The new default shortcuts suck. You shouldn't have changed the defaults, there was no reason to, and about half of them will get people killed. Also the shortcuts assigned to a key+click are implemented very poorly. Alt-tab and you'll be returned with alt-look at on random unimportant ships. Ctrl-click feels delayed laggy, if it even works at all. should have put more thought into it. Players will lose ships and you will lose more customers than you will gain. Grade: F
Right-click menus in drones are inconsistent (amateurish.) Right-click on a drone and 'launch drones' is on the bottom (where it always has been and is fine) but right-click on a drone group and it's been moved to the top. Pointless change, inconvenient, inconsistent, does not increase usability for new or old players, one more hassle in a pile of hassles you dump on us when you think you're "improving" the UI. Grade: D-
Stealth buff to salvage thieves by allowing MWD in all deadspaces. I understand the desire to bring PVE ships more in line with PVP ships and that this is an important step in that process. However it went in at the wrong time completely, and the only real benefit is to salvage thieves. Mission boats will not be more interesting or fun because by using a MWD they will be targeted by salvage thieves more often meaning more salvage lost, while salvage thieves will be able to steal more than they could before. One less reason to log in, one less reason to undock, one less reason to keep subscriptions active. Grade: D-
Auto-load portraits in chat is kinda controversial... Some people like it. Some are annoyed by it. I hate it. It's adding unnecessary bandwidth and client rendering. To me, and to most people who care, what's more important is what you might consider 'unanticipated use.' In busy highsec areas people want a way of 'remembering' people they talk to but don't want to set diplomatic relationships (standings) or searching through contacts. We would load portraits of people who are interesting. A sort of RP way of 'remembering faces.' Now any douchebag spammer in Jita, or strangers in fleet fights gets their crappy portrait downloaded to my machine. Add a setting in the escape menu. Give us the option. Grade: D
Not big bugs, not really, but a sure sign that CCP develops for their egos, not for their customers. It's a shame that the CSM has to keep reminding you that we actually matter. A company that does not value it's customers does not deserve to succeed. Another disappointing expansion. Can't believe I actually resubbed for this.
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OfThe North
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Posted - 2011.01.20 01:37:00 -
[654]
If your goal was to reduce PI output, you have achieved that. Prices on PI based goods will be going up across the board (or was it that too much was being made so you had to buy it to stabilize prices).
This seems like way more work to PI, and the controls are hardly friendly. Sliders should have snap tos for certain time periods (like 24 hours).
I have two new extractors with a total of 4 heads running for 24 hours each on a planet. I guess I can add lots more heads, but I need to make more advanced PI goods. (I used to have 12 extractors running for 24 hours on the same planet.)
I have 2000 Power and 13000 CPU left and I can't put a third extractor on the planet? Is this all about giving pirates more carebears to hunt? Causes now I am going to have to haul goods from planet to planet to make a basic like robotics.
Well the only thing you can count on in life is change, and it is rarely what it is hyped up to be.
Fly Safe (with loads of Plasma in your hold)
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Rough Beast
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Posted - 2011.01.20 02:24:00 -
[655]
Edited by: Rough Beast on 20/01/2011 02:25:02 My toon looked at the new PI and left my character screen it was so bad...change it back!!!
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Polgara
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Posted - 2011.01.20 02:42:00 -
[656]
I have a question?
In SISI your could stop an extraction program partway through its program, is this feature being added to tranq at some point?? Realy would be a good idea.
thanks Pol
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Lompocus Nuwen
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Posted - 2011.01.20 03:05:00 -
[657]
1 - This is a great update! Thank you! 2 - BLACK HAIR! 3 - BLACK FACIAL HAIR! 4 - More options for facial hair. 5 - facial hair slider seems to scale between black and brown. cannot have other colors. 6 - more clothing options 7 - more backgrounds! Everything that is moderately intersting... well, they pale in comparison to the character. 3-d backgrounds? (Hrm, maybe too much work? xD) 8 - Everyone looks either Hispanic/Japanese or Scandinavian.
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Gorongo Frostfyr
Shimohi Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2011.01.20 03:07:00 -
[658]
some hotkeys like approach, orbit - well all generic combat hotkeys - are REALLY unhandy to use. the clicking element is pretty annoying. why should i use a hotkey, when i have to click anyways? please change this - the other keys are pretty good, like reload ammo. _________________ Lost in a realm of eternal ice on the threshold of eternity. |
Veldar Reku
Minmatar Wu Xi Holdings
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Posted - 2011.01.20 03:12:00 -
[659]
PI is broken to say the least... currently,
* 1 extractor control unit per planet at most, or it will run out of PG or be very inefficient => it is impossible to build any complex thing yourself anymore without spending hours ****ing around with extractor positions.
* today my yield is 70% of yield last night.... at same spot that my "skills" are suppose to highlight.
* link from extractor says 601.2 m3/hour. Extractor producing 83 m3/15 min => ~250m3/hour. WHERE is the 601 m3/hour coming from?? Some voodoo math there.
This is less entertaining every day....
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Adapted Eye
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Posted - 2011.01.20 04:03:00 -
[660]
Just wanted to compare my profile pic
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Adamri
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Posted - 2011.01.20 04:12:00 -
[661]
I know many have said the exact same thing, but I do feel I have to voice my disapproval of the portraiture system in the new character creator. I believe I speak for many, if not all of us when I say being able to save all four portraits and hot-swap them at our leisure would be immensely appreciated, but I do understand that is a lot more work.
But adding text is not. There should have been a warning in the actual character generator, preferably right next to the four portraits, that the system will only save one.
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AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance
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Posted - 2011.01.20 04:43:00 -
[662]
My God, the mewling, make it stop.
CCP sucks at fixing bugs and at refraining from peeing in the sandbox. But this patch was pretty damn good (and by that I mean it broke nothing horribly, which is what I had come to expect from most patches.) CCP, will there be a SP reimbursement for those of us who set a really long and semi-useless skill to train because we expected you to break stuff and for the roll-out to be significantly longer than advertised (as in previous patches with this much going on)?
Haven't heard this much mewling since the 72 SP/hr whine (which affected me on 4/5 accounts (and all 5 once the 'free' remap kicked in) fwiw.) Would be funny if CCP gave each account the choice between a 72 SP/hr bonus to their SP acquisition speed or unlimited cosmetic changes to their avatar. I welcome my handsome and semi-realistic new skin. I don't care what clothes he wears. I don't care what tats he has. He looks human and distinctive (unlike before when everybody looked like a cartoony same-face, different get-up version of 9 or so different faces, not that I cared, since I play Internet Spaceships.) That's ok by me.
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Secondary Primery
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Posted - 2011.01.20 04:49:00 -
[663]
PI portion looks like its going to make things a lot smoother to run and less clicks, awesome.
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Redflare
Caldari Black Metal Armory Vanguard.
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Posted - 2011.01.20 04:51:00 -
[664]
Edited by: Redflare on 20/01/2011 04:51:21 must add multiple character redesigns. At least in the long term. ____________________________________________ [center]Due to the overwhelming number of people with "Red" in there name, I'd consider it required that everyone call me LOMPOCUS from now on![/c |
Draco Ice
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Posted - 2011.01.20 05:13:00 -
[665]
Nice character creator. You can look like Gallente, Minmater, Amarrian, or Calderian. You get to chose from 2 colors for hair, skin, and eyes and move every facial feature a full 1/2 inch. You get 5 hair cuts, and 3 beards to choose from. But wait, there's more! You get one, yes you read that right, one style of sunglasses from 1975.
In soviet russia, the character creates YOU!
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zero2espect
Amarr ZERO HEAVY INDUSTRIES
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Posted - 2011.01.20 05:45:00 -
[666]
the patch has brought back to the game the most horrible fleet lag you can imagine: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1451958&sid=977315244 //sometimes less is more...zero
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Masurigi
Caldari Ordo Eventus
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Posted - 2011.01.20 08:13:00 -
[667]
After 2 days of trying to get the client to work i must say i'm quite pleased with this expansion. The patch corrupted and the repair tool failed. With no help from CCP i got the resolution from other players on the forum. That was kinda annoying.
The character creator is really nice. High-tech stuff but heavily lacking in options. We need more stuff. Clothes, accessories,hairstyles etc. etc. For now its fairly basic but the whole thing works well for me and is really top notch.
The PI update is great. especially for my high sec PI. Thanks for this improvement ccp.
The rest? Haven't had time to check. :)
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Amantir Borg
Next Gen Corporation
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Posted - 2011.01.20 08:21:00 -
[668]
I want back my RED amarrian robe with hood.
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Raimo
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.01.20 09:07:00 -
[669]
Is it really intended that the "combat" shortcuts only apply in "overview focus" and not in "space focus"? That's obviously silly, only time they should be disabled is in a text entry field/ chat focus as those keys are not used for anything while clicking in space (flying manually)
Furthermore, is it really intended that said combat shortcuts do *not* work on the object in the "selected target" box if nothing is clicked and instead only looks on "overview focus" and a selected target in the overview list? Seems like a really poor design decision if so. I'm assuming these are bugs/ design overlooks and thus this bug report.
(Also, switching overview tabs to a tab that doesn't show the "selected target" renders these shortcuts nonfunctional even if the object is still in the box with the mouse buttons - and their tooltips are showing said keyboard shortcuts so at least fix the tooltips)
Also, there is no bindable keyboard shortcut for "reset camera" rendering the default binding of "look at" to the ALT key rather useless. ----------
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Muul Udonii
Minmatar THORN Syndicate Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.01.20 10:23:00 -
[670]
PI Change: It's great. Much simpler to use and much more flexible.
Character Creator: It in all honesty sucks. It's a struggle to run it for many people; and the fact that the toon won't keep still is just annoying. There's not much info about how to actually use it either; so I can see it putting off new players. The ability to undo a change, or submit a toon, see what it looks like in game, then tweak it during the 'grace period' would be sensible; but I'm guessing it's not able to do it which is why that's a definite no-no.
Incursions: Well they haven't happened yet.
New Forums?
Contract changes: All realy good and will stop so many scammers, and the threads of tears that are caused by them.
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Madbuster73
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Posted - 2011.01.20 10:44:00 -
[671]
Overview and local doesnt show neutrals with a grey bracket and/or bar. I always have the neutrals set to grey but now they appear black like a stargate or a celestial while I have selected it to appear grey. (much easier to spot on your overview)
(and it looks like everybody has this problem)
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Lilith Zotar
Caldari Sisters of Persephone
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Posted - 2011.01.20 10:48:00 -
[672]
I like the new char creator, but, as said before, I was a little disappointed with the lack of hair/clothing/accessories available. I want my twin "bunny" look back! Hopefully they will have a "barber" in Incarna where we can choose lots more hair styles. Everything looks the same at the moment - across all races as well.
A few other comments, it would be nice if there was a "reset expression" on the portrait screen as several times I ended up looking constipated and needed to return to the default and couldn't. Maybe even have a expression gallery like poses, lights and backgrounds...
On the whole, I like the new system and there is a lot of room for expansion but please don't make it PLEX or RM for clothes/accessories/new hair - minimal ISK only.
Thanks for a great expansion! (whole of incursion)
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Ahaja Aegra
Minmatar Real Nice And Laidback Corporation Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2011.01.20 10:53:00 -
[673]
First - the character creation pros: New avatars looks and moves amazing - scars, frackles, mimics, the look of skin and fabrics, sculpting of body, etc. I haven't seen better "human" models in any game (not only MMO). Pure awsomness! but..
character creation cons: Every time I try to make my new minnie avatar to look like my old one, I really liked, I feel like "Any customer can have a car painted any colour that he wants so long as it is black". I feel that every tattoos, hairstyles and clothes will be avaliable, but in incarna, where you will have to go to tattoist and pay for it, for hairdresser and pay for it, to store and buy another clothes. So few options now, ensures that anyone not happy with it's avatar will go and pay. I see someone is getting greedy.
The PI pros: I dont see any. Maybe one - longer extracting times, but...
PI cons: Before patch I had ice planets producing P3 items themselvs - setup like 4x3 extractors, 7 factories, spaceport and using only advanced command center - perfect. Now due to whole extractor command unit and heads' needs of powergrid I can't extract 4 different resources and produce P3 items on one planet. There is one proverb: "better is enemy of good" (in meaning good enough). -- TRUST NO ONE |
btxbmbr
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Posted - 2011.01.20 11:43:00 -
[674]
well, i'm very new to eve, so i've just a opinion of a newbie.
- thanks to mods/support: cpp, you've done a good job - and a perfect support too. thanks to all mods and admins in-game and out-game.
- thanks to creator: as my previous speakers said, the creator is one of the best most of us ever saw. but it lacks of sims-stuff: hair cuts, clothing, etc. such things are important as it is important and funny to pimp my ship.
- suggestion #1, living stations: as you announce, we need more living chars and movemenet on surfaces or stations too. there was only one reason i've never try eve out, for years (i'm little older): i do not like a game where i am always bound to a damn vehicle.
- suggestion #2, re-creation: as you announce, it could be possible and importan to re-create my icon/pic everytime i want. i'm wondering why it is such a problem; it has tech history reasons, thats for sure.
- suggestion #3, char interactions: today your char interactions are limited to text and a picture. you do not need sound to make it better. just look at this, randomized moves/actions, and its in full screen (movie effect): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-0vIxS6ThE
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Areinnye Ocala
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Posted - 2011.01.20 11:57:00 -
[675]
Jeez. This isn't an update. I'd rather call it a downdate. What is the idea of making 4 photo's if you can't use them if you decide to change the current choice of portrait. Further more. The Gallente had/has the Jin Mei. With asian look. Newsflash. Not anymore. But the Jin Mei is still there. The asian look is now moved to Minmatar. What was the idea with that ??? I so agree with others about the crappy clothes selection. CCP. Dont you guys have any imagination what so ever ? And what happened to the optoin of capture a portrait ? Just to mention a few of the bad changes you made. Should I mention all the changes that aren't satisfactory, I'd be writing a book here. In all. This sux.
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Tsetra
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Posted - 2011.01.20 12:01:00 -
[676]
Originally by: Vanorlexis What CCP doesnt get is Everyone is different and Everyone wants to Be unique in their own way This is a Sandbox game afterall isnt it? Say i want to be an african american civire well i cant be that because caldari are racist and only allow non africans to join. Or what if i want to be an white race now im stuck being asian etc etc etc. more options CCP not less!!!
If you want to be a black person in the Civire fold, then go create a Brutor character, go to Caldari space and work for some Civire corp!
It's just like my character. She's Gallentean, but I roleplay her as disgruntled with Gallente democratorship and so she's joined the Amarrians instead, because at least those guys are honest with you about their intentions thus making it the lesser evil. Or so she reasons.
Have you seen any 'black'-appearance Civire? No? That's presumably because no part of their populace has ever developed that look, nor have they had any large influxes of Brutors or others. Keeping this in mind how would you, a child of two Civire parents, be born with dark skin, large lips, a protruding forehead, thick black hair that will not grow straight and so on?
It's simply nigh-impossible for a child to be born with that many genetic mutations at once.
Nationality and ancestry are two different things ù if you want to roleplay a son of a Brutor family that's lived in Civire society for many generations, then you're free to do exactly this. Nothing in the game stops you. But do not think you can pretend that Civire can be born with the 'black' look on their own, because you'd be taking control of the lore and making it your own.
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Xvisha Mirkash
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Posted - 2011.01.20 12:11:00 -
[677]
Limited haircuts (most of them very bad), clothing...no comment, yeah we all have the same height, all races look similar, no tattoos and decos on Minmatar (rly who decided that?), missing jewelry and lots of stuff that could make us a bit more ''interesting''?(Amarr females) face adjustments not really working good and the avatar does not stop moving while doing it... With a few words, dissapointing...
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Askalor
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Posted - 2011.01.20 12:20:00 -
[678]
well, yeah i guess we all agree that the Character Creator is a big disappointment, since CCP did promise a lot.
I did played with it for a while even before on the testserver, but its lousy to see what CCP actually brought out to us...
First not every char has the same options, some look Asian and you can#t change it some are black and you can't change it. some have sunglasses and some don't what if i am playing a minmatar since years like it and now i get to only choose a male guy looking like some weed smoking hobbo? (no offense to those folks, but thats not my choice)
best way to fix this is to mix all the options uop and give everyone the same option. i know your choice of race gives you a certain set of skills, but why not turn that off? at least during grace period. to let everyone choose what they want.
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Amara Valde
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Posted - 2011.01.20 13:03:00 -
[679]
Originally by: Areinnye Ocala Jeez. This isn't an update. I'd rather call it a downdate. What is the idea of making 4 photo's if you can't use them if you decide to change the current choice of portrait. Further more. The Gallente had/has the Jin Mei. With asian look. Newsflash. Not anymore. But the Jin Mei is still there. The asian look is now moved to Minmatar. What was the idea with that ??? I so agree with others about the crappy clothes selection. CCP. Dont you guys have any imagination what so ever ? And what happened to the optoin of capture a portrait ?
All races have one Oriental bloodline - the Jin-Mei still look very Oriental to me and they're more attractive than they used to be - at least the females (haven't tried a male Jin-Mei yet).
You're given 4 snapshots so you can save something you think is nice, and keep fiddling and save a few poses, then choose the best one. There's nothing worse than having a nice pose, then trying something else out and finding you can't seem to get that old pose back, and you really want it.
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Hakurei Border
Gensokyo
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Posted - 2011.01.20 13:39:00 -
[680]
I miss the black fist / red background.
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Jon Helldrunk
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Posted - 2011.01.20 13:53:00 -
[681]
thank you for cutting down PI time by a factor of 20!
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Apollo Cochrane
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Posted - 2011.01.20 14:03:00 -
[682]
Has anyone read this? Looks like you're gonna get your redo. The cool thing is that more clothes and tattoos and stuff are on the way, as are unlimited redos, according to the devblog. That is worth waiting for. Cant wait for the full Incarna expansion.
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ravadac
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Posted - 2011.01.20 14:19:00 -
[683]
Can one of the devs comment on why the "Global Report" is listed as a "Global Report" under the incursions tab and not a "Universal Report". I'm having a hard time fathoming that. I posted a bug but was told it was a "game feature" and not a bug. Is that what all "bugs" are? Unintended game features? I should not be able to sort by jumps or constellations if this is truly a "global report". A global report denotes a globe to report on.
Perhaps just nit-picking here but really am having a hard time understanding that one.
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riverini
Gallente Reliables Inc Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2011.01.20 14:20:00 -
[684]
Edited by: riverini on 20/01/2011 14:21:01 Well, now that the novelty is wearing little by little, we can start being some more objective about what did we felt the char creator was lacking.
Some, even go and call it "underwhelming" which i believe if both an overstatement and an arrogant comment against CCP's efforts.
This said, IMO seems like CCP didn't explore enough of hair-dos (and hair-don'ts) into the char creator.
Also, the current hair-style seriously lack a killer-feature: control the length, modeling it and hair horizontal flip, am sure these 3 must go in the next fix.
CCP i want to have this hair style!
Nice!
I also feel CCP didn't go overboard with the face features and expressions, which i feel is really lacking the most defining factor, which is asymmetry, people usually have one eye a little bit bigger than the other, also slighty offset, i know we are clones and ****znitz but humans aren't all symmetrical.
Also i wonder why CCP didn't let anyone use other races of clothing, is more a thing of style rather than race and am sure there will be plenty of fashion awareness challenged players out there clamoring for an "eclectic" look
Same with the clothing, why there is no white shirts? Buttoned stuff or blue jeans? or how about a sharp suit? am sure that after years of being in a good tank, whenever anyone comes out they'll want to make it up wearing some Armani, right?
I know its a work in progress and that's what have me excited, btw for those who ever played battlefield bad company 2, one of the most impresive graphic features in the game is the texture of the uniform, idk how the did it, but CCP should take note.
Linkage
Still the Char creator impressed me a lot it has a lot of potential, which type of hair-do, clothing or detail do u feel your char creator is lacking? besides tatoos, pirate patches and vegeta-like visors ofc.
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Fearless M0F0
Blue Republic
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Posted - 2011.01.20 14:22:00 -
[685]
Who was the "genius" who decided to put "Dock" as last option in right click menu?
Please move it back to the top. -- I take offense on people feeling offended by me |
Kahetha
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Posted - 2011.01.20 14:25:00 -
[686]
My biggest problem with the character creator, old or new, is the fact that you can't see a "preview" or something like that of what the picture will look like when it's a relevant size.
Relevant size would be: the large pic at the login screen, the small pic at the login screen, the character sheet pic, and the show info pic.
Not-so-relevant sizes are: the 4 small pics (too small to see how it will look) or the actual character model (same thing but 'cause it's way bigger), that is too say: the sizes that are avaliable. ---
DesuSig |
Skinny Vickers
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Posted - 2011.01.20 14:26:00 -
[687]
Permanent fidget....stop the head wobble! please...
Other than that, I like it
A girl would always like more shoes and clothes to choose from..umm and some nicer sunglasses. I would actually quite like to accessorise with vintage Glock, it really can add to any look
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Inquisitor Magneto
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Posted - 2011.01.20 15:18:00 -
[688]
Edited by: Inquisitor Magneto on 20/01/2011 15:19:27
Originally by: Tsetra Edited by: Tsetra on 20/01/2011 12:28:07
Originally by: Vanorlexis What CCP doesnt get is Everyone is different and Everyone wants to Be unique in their own way This is a Sandbox game afterall isnt it? Say i want to be an african american civire well i cant be that because caldari are racist and only allow non africans to join. Or what if i want to be an white race now im stuck being asian etc etc etc. more options CCP not less!!!
If you want to be a black person in the Civire fold, then go create a Brutor character, go to Caldari space and work for some Civire corp!
It's just like my character. She's Gallentean, but I roleplay her as someone who's disgruntled with Gallente democratorship and therefore has joined the Amarrians instead, because she considers them a lesser evil. I didn't create it as an Amarr character and whine about not being able to look Gallente.
Have you seen any 'black'-appearance Civire? No? That's presumably because no part of their populace has ever developed that look, nor have they had any large influxes of Brutors or others. Keeping this in mind how would you, a child of two Civire parents, be born with dark skin, large lips, a protruding forehead, thick black hair that will not grow straight and so on?
It's simply nigh-impossible for a child to be born with that many genetic mutations at once.
Nationality and ancestry are two different things ù if you want to roleplay a son of a Brutor family that's lived in Civire society for many generations, then you're free to do exactly this. Nothing in the game stops you. But do not assume that Civire should be able to be born with the 'black' look just because an American, for instance, can (considering that "American" implies nothing about ancestry).
Technically the term "Civire" as a nationality could be applied to Brutor-looking guys that live in Civire nation, but then why are you in the Civire character creation screen? Go to the Brutor character creation instead. Or do you suggest for CCP to add every bloodline of EVE under every bloodline's character creation header just so that people can pick and choose nationality as well as appearance? Seems a bit redundant when you can already essentially pick your nationality by picking a corp to work for.
While your ignorance of genetic is obvious and bliss. Do not think that in a universe of so many planets and so many different cultures that all is black white and yellow. I do agree that all genres of color should be added to the spectrum. This is a sandbox so you cant say a sandbox is segregated to only blacks over here and all whites over here.
I do understand your ignorance from the words you wrote but this is space with hundreds of worlds. each empire has hundreds of worlds under their control and capsulars are not limited in their races. This is a game of choice and while i can be a caldari and choose to fly an amarr ship that should be the same respect when it comes to race choices. we are not the main characters which is delegated to CCP of who they want them to be. We should always have the choice of character color. Do not tell me that all characters in the amarr empire are all white or all characters in another race are all black. Do not come to the forums with ignorance but with facts from the game itself and proof statements from CCP.
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Nai Weil
Caldari M. Corp M. PIRE
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Posted - 2011.01.20 15:47:00 -
[689]
Originally by: Kahetha My biggest problem with the character creator, old or new, is the fact that you can't see a "preview" or something like that of what the picture will look like when it's a relevant size.
Relevant size would be: the large pic at the login screen, the small pic at the login screen, the character sheet pic, and the show info pic.
Not-so-relevant sizes are: the 4 small pics (too small to see how it will look) or the actual character model (same thing but 'cause it's way bigger), that is too say: the sizes that are avaliable.
You can, but it takes a bit of work. When you've saved one of the 4 pics, alt-tab out to your cache directory, under pictures/portraits. You'll see the PortraitSnapshot_0.jpg etc in there.. the resolutions are pretty clear at that size, and can give a pretty accurate idea of what you're going to get when you hit that "save" button.
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JCache
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.20 16:19:00 -
[690]
While shortcuts are a great idea, they are still lacking some major features: - still no shortcuts for market operations - multiple shortcuts for a single function (i.e. one for keyboard, one for mouse) - multiple functions of a shortcut depending on situation (i.e. space combat or trading on market) - assigning additional shortcuts to locked ones (i.e. confirm or cancel with mouse button) Sig removed. Needs more EVE related content. Zymurgist |
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Shurikane
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Posted - 2011.01.20 16:27:00 -
[691]
Hi CCP!
WISHLIST FOR CHARACTER CREATOR:
- The ability to open up the character posing interface, at will, in order to snap pictures that I can save on my local hard disk.
- When previewing my face before saving, I would like to see both the scaled-down and a full-screen rendition of it.
- Add the ability to re-pose and re-snap every so often (a la neural remap available once every 365 days). No changes to body build, but allow changes to clothes, makeup, accessories and posture.
WISHLIST FOR PI:
- Enlarge the timer slider, as the current one is too sensitive. I think it should at least twice longer.
- Include a scale on the timer so I can quickly click the time I want without trial and error.
- Add the ability to turn auto-update on or off on the histogram (the auto-update causes stuttering for me.)
- Add the ability to save a few "time shortcuts", so I can quick-select run times on my extractors.
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Crazy Dave
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Posted - 2011.01.20 16:34:00 -
[692]
I can see the issues that people are having with their character recreation. I have to concure that a lot more could have been done to make it better. However I was able to make it work and came out with something I halfway like. Unfortunately I see a lot of people shop at the same store I did. I hope that this is a work in progress issue and that as updates are made to the creator, we will be able to update our characters accordingly until the last touches are made.
I like what was done with the PI and real glad that Operation Click Fest finally came to a successful end. That we were all able to achieve or goals with only our fingers complaining. However, although a minor thing. I wish I had realized that one extractor had 10 heads on it. Which is a HUGE plus. I'll have to wait 14 days for the restart process so I can't comment on that yet.
My main issue I have is with the incursion nerfings and seemingly forced pvp/e issue. My connection will not let me participate in PvP. Let me rephrase that. I can but I will explode before I know what hit me. My connection is satellite based and as such I have to send a signal 40+k miles up in the air and another 40+k miles back down causing lag issues. Verizon wont open up any DSL or Fios lines out where I live. Leaving my only option 56k dial up. I think that incursion encounters should not be nerfed system wide. Just in random localized areas where the fight is. If its in a belt, at a station, planets and moons. Then that is where the nerfings should take place. For those that can not participate in the incursion either by choice or otherwise, missions and other areas should be left unhindered or at least randomized better without nerfing the entire system or penalizing those that wont or cant participate for what ever reason. I am hoping this issue will be addressed and corrected to show recognition that some people can't PvP rather than wont.
Trust me I do want to PvP unfortunately atm I can not. When the day comes that I can there are going to be a few dozen pirates that I will be paying a visit to. Yes I keep a hit list at home for the right day to come along.
From what I seen, I like, especially with the PI. Is the retriever 24k gold or is it plate?
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The Cursed
Generals Of Destruction Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.01.20 16:40:00 -
[693]
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I would like to thank CCP for taking away my portrait this morning. I've had that same picture since beta and enjoyed it tbh but for some reason without asking me some ****** working for ccp thought it would be a good idea to get rid of it and replace it with something that looks nothing like my old picture!!!!!!!!!! How am I suppose to keep the image of a mean looking guy when you give me nothing but dresses and formal cloths to wear along with makeup. I'm not a new age hipster or some dress wearing priest. I was a ****ed of drunk mean looking bald guy with a spider tat on my forhead which i cant get back now.Thanks for f&cking up one of the last few things in this game that made me orig from the start. I mean really go f@ck yourself assh#les. The Cursed Member of GODS Beer em good!!!!!!!!!!!! Beer em Good!!!!<ahref="externalLink.aspx?l=http%3A%2F%2Feve%2Ebattleclinic%2Ecom%2Fkillboard%2Fcombat%5Frecord%2Ephp%3Ftype%3Dplayer%26name%3DThe%2520Cursed"><imgsrc="http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/signature.php/string,The20Cursed/tpl,galle |
washy2
Caldari Excrutiating Dirge Angry Dogs
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Posted - 2011.01.20 16:52:00 -
[694]
Originally by: The Cursed
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I would like to thank CCP for taking away my portrait this morning. I've had that same picture since beta and enjoyed it tbh but for some reason without asking me some ****** working for ccp thought it would be a good idea to get rid of it and replace it with something that looks nothing like my old picture!!!!!!!!!! How am I suppose to keep the image of a mean looking guy when you give me nothing but dresses and formal cloths to wear along with makeup. I'm not a new age hipster or some dress wearing priest. I was a ****ed of drunk mean looking bald guy with a spider tat on my forhead which i cant get back now.Thanks for f&cking up one of the last few things in this game that made me orig from the start. I mean really go f@ck yourself assh#les. The Cursed Member of GODS Beer em good!!!!!!!!!!!!
Damn...ure ugly now
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Crazy Dave
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Posted - 2011.01.20 16:57:00 -
[695]
The 1980's called, they want their sunglasses back. Please give us more styles to choose from. I stopped wearing 1980's aviator glasses a long time ago.
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Sannye
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Posted - 2011.01.20 17:17:00 -
[696]
Charecter generator is ok... i expected alot more, but meh, i really dont care for charecters, i play this game for the ships.
However, the rest of the game suffers alot from this "update". Overview is totally useless, doesnt update unless you click it (enemys long dead is still flashy red). Neutrals doesn't show up in local - or overview. Corp/alliance mates showing up with red skull, no blue/green stars.
That's just the start. The gamespeed is reduced to maybe 1/5 of pre-incarna. FPS is a term of the past, now you should measure Frames Pr Min instead!
What really upsets me, is that most of theese "bugs" were actually repported on the test server forums, yet CCP still run this bugfilled piece of #"ñ#ñ%& that should have been fix'd before the launch.
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The cableguy
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Posted - 2011.01.20 17:21:00 -
[697]
Portrait issue with Amarr cloaks. Had the hood down during picture taking, but when I got in game its up and obscures my pretty face. Please fix.
<--- this character has the issue
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Cathy Drall
Amarr Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2011.01.20 17:35:00 -
[698]
Did I already say that I really regret it that the options for all characters have changed at random and that I can't re-create any of my characters because of skin tone, eyes, hairstyle, hair colour and such?
Why-o-why did you do that?
Change my ships all you like but please don't change most of my characters into something I can't relate to anymore.
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Renegade Leader
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Posted - 2011.01.20 17:37:00 -
[699]
Originally by: The cableguy Portrait issue with Amarr cloaks. Had the hood down during picture taking, but when I got in game its up and obscures my pretty face. Please fix.
<--- this character has the issue
Yeah please fix Obiwan's cloak.
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Mr Cleann
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.01.20 17:39:00 -
[700]
Originally by: Cathy Drall Did I already say that I really regret it that the options for all characters have changed at random and that I can't re-create any of my characters because of skin tone, eyes, hairstyle, hair colour and such?
Why-o-why did you do that?
Change my ships all you like but please don't change most of my characters into something I can't relate to anymore.
Wern't you on M.A.S.H.? Be the kind of man that when your feet hit the floor each morning, the devil says "Oh crap, he's up!"
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Vicceroni
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Posted - 2011.01.20 17:39:00 -
[701]
Originally by: Inquisitor Magneto
Originally by: Vicceroni
Originally by: Inquisitor Magneto Edited by: Inquisitor Magneto on 19/01/2011 18:55:54 not to be evil or point to out some bad mallice on ccp part but, anyone notice you cant really change the skin color of your amarr race character. I do not now about other race characters but, I was given 4 shades of carcassion color. so i have pale white, white, white with a light tan and then white with some reddish tan. I would not want to think this new system portrays limitation with what color your character can be. in short are there only white people as characters in the amarr empire? Like i said I am not interrested in thoughts or opinions just a true and focused answer about the system itself.
Yep, Amarr are crotchety old white folks. It's like asking why your human cant have purple skin like an elf, or metal strips intertwined with sinew like a warforged!
There is no proof that all the families are white. their are 5 families besides the emperor who help govern the amarr empire so lets have a bit more diversity in skin color. While i did not say i wanted "purple skin like an elf, or metal strips intertwined with sinew like a warforged" as a color as that is not a human color. one thing is clear on this planet called earth we do have different races with different skin colors. so dont be to ignorant when it comes to color in a world of humans who are not all white. Thanks
Quit trolling me and calling me ignorant for referring to the lore of the game. If you didn't want a crotchety old white person as a character then reroll a caldari or something. So I made a D&D reference, a bit of an exaggeration but come on, it's an avatar in a game we're talking about, not human rights and racism. Northern Europeans are white skinned. So are Amarr. Deal with it?
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lskman
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Posted - 2011.01.20 17:41:00 -
[702]
Heya
When setting/changing prices in the market, the price field is not activating automatically, like it used to be. Sounds like a minor problem, but trust me, it makes a traders life unnecessarily hard. I think this can be fixed easy, eh?
A few words to the character creator... moar clothes, moar glasses, moar hats, moar tattoos, MOAR CLOTHES bettah clothes, bettah hair, bettah beards, BETTAH CLOTHES
The new creator has potential, please use it!
Iskdude.
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Wolf Spyder
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Posted - 2011.01.20 18:07:00 -
[703]
Edited by: Wolf Spyder on 20/01/2011 18:23:25
Originally by: Crazy Dave Edited by: Crazy Dave on 20/01/2011 16:41:20 I can see the issues that people are having with their character recreation. I have to concure that a lot more could have been done to make it better. However I was able to make it work and came out with something I halfway like. Unfortunately I see a lot of people shop at the same store I did. I hope that this is a work in progress issue and that as updates are made to the creator, we will be able to update our characters accordingly until the last touches are made.
I like what was done with the PI and real glad that Operation Click Fest finally came to a successful end. That we were all able to achieve or goals with only our fingers complaining. However, although a minor thing. I wish I had realized that one extractor had 10 heads on it. Which is a HUGE plus. I'll have to wait 14 days for the restart process so I can't comment on that yet.
My main issue I have is with the incursion nerfings and seemingly forced pvp/e issue. My connection will not let me participate in PvP. Let me rephrase that. I can but I will explode before I know what hit me. My connection is satellite based and as such I have to send a signal 40+k miles up in the air and another 40+k miles back down causing lag issues. Verizon wont open up any DSL or Fios lines out where I live. Leaving my only option 56k dial up. I think that incursion encounters should not be nerfed system wide. Just in random localized areas where the fight is. If its in a belt, at a station, planets and moons. Then that is where the nerfings should take place. For those that can not participate in the incursion either by choice or otherwise, missions and other areas should be left unhindered or at least randomized better without nerfing the entire system or penalizing those that wont or cant participate for what ever reason. I am hoping this issue will be addressed and corrected to show recognition that some people can't PvP rather than wont.
Trust me I do want to PvP unfortunately atm I can not. When the day comes that I can there are going to be a few dozen pirates that I will be paying a visit to. Yes I keep a hit list at home for the right day to come along. In the mean time I am content with co op transporting, mining, building, exploring and mission running. All good things come to those who wait.....Eventually. Or so i was told anyways
From what I seen, I like, especially with the PI. Is the retriever 24k gold or is it plate?
I too have the same issues with regards to the nerfings that occur system wide. I also have a bad connection that makes PvP unenjoyable. If I PvP I lose. Period. And its not due to wrong fittings (sometimes that is the case). It is lag related issues. Last time i did a ping I got 1038ms of lag. Where I live I have zero options available. All my stuff is satellite based right down to my phone. When all these penalties that occur I will be forced to either dock or log off for a few hours to give the incursion time to pass. If it is too frequent to the point that I am not getting my monies worth out of it then I will seek my entertainment elsewhere. I hope CCP does take that issue to heart and make adjustments accordingly.....
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Tipsy
Gallente X-Factor Industries Synthetic Existence
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Posted - 2011.01.20 20:18:00 -
[704]
Please make the grey background for the world information optional, or at least make it scale to the width that is required for the essential text (ie. system names) after each jump. I play EVE in a window at 1024*768 and the grey boxes are 1/3 empty and are a distraction from the game environment. It should also be possible to turn off the display of constellation names in travel info - as it's possible to do this for the system you're already in it only seems consistent to allow it for autopilot information.
This is actually one of my bugbears with the EVE UI as a whole - there's a lot of empty space around the actual hard information. I like the pretty icons and text which tell you what the window does, but couldn't there be a way of filling this function without occupying so much (vertical in particular) space?
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Jojico Dian
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Posted - 2011.01.20 20:54:00 -
[705]
I really missed an undo option in the character creation system. Subtle changes to the shape of the face are quite hard to undo. I'd be satisfied with even just 1 undo depth.
I hear you're making it possible to reportrait characters in future updates, I only ask that you do not allow changing face/gender type/muscularity. Please let hair be changeable too, and makeup. I would love an option to go back to the character creation system just to look at the entire character's body.
The fact that I can even change the size of calves or arms means that we can walk around in stations soon, right? Let me assure you, I would PAY THROUGH THE NOSE(in ISK) for clothes if station exploring becomes a reality. I think a whole market could spring up just around clothes. On that note, why aren't there any skirts, only pants?
Other than that, I'm very satisfied with this update. The character creation has enormous potential, and I hope it doesn't stay confined to just the beginning of one's journey through EVE Online (i.e. please let us walk around in stations soon!). Sadly, I'm not keeping my hopes up, since you guys have been talking about that since 2006. At least let us return to the character creation screen once in a while, it's incredibly fun.
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Slave slaver
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Posted - 2011.01.20 21:35:00 -
[706]
Many constructive critic but not any reply from CCP.
Not a sentence like "Exploding PI pices is what we wanted."/"We want the Amarr look differnet to Minmatar" neither "Oops - we will fix that.".
:*(
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Khandu Eesi
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Posted - 2011.01.20 21:36:00 -
[707]
Don't know if anyone is still having the problem of character creator hanging up at 100% loaded but I finally got mine to work (on low settings). I cleared my cache, quit the program, and (in windows XP) went to control panel >> device manager. Updated the video drivers via the option in the manager.. Started EVE and from the initial login screen, went to settings and optimized graphics for performance and applied. I was then able to get past the "loading character creator" screen and succeeded in creating a character for an alt. Gonna mess around a bit and see if I can get better graphics running before I start on my main.
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Amon Shirr
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Posted - 2011.01.20 21:50:00 -
[708]
Ok, first off I really like the way the new portraits look, simply gorgeus. But;
All that fuss, and that massivly elaborate creator. Chars having movement and such. And all you get from it is a portrait? Very uninspired in my humble opinion. If you make this sort of thing, do it all the way: Live portraits, that blink, make faces, smile laugh and frown. Give us voices so that when we blow eachother up, we see the face of our victim and hear them scream. That would have made this whole customization alot more interresting, and add a whole new level of depth to eve in general. Heck, we could even add this to rats, giving even trivial NPCs a little life. To be honest I was sorely dissapointed that I didn't even have the 4 snaps available when I got into the game... even that would have made it just a little bit better. Truthfully, it was actually quite a hollow feeling comming into the game again.
Now the creator looks great, but the choises within each race is horribly poor. The fact that you have so blatantly boxed the different races into steriotypes is horrible, and downgrades the diversity of the game. Sure, amarr males looked old before too, but this was a golden oppertunity to remedy that mistake. Not to mention the lack of choises in clothing hairstyles etc, as metionend before in this long thread. Don't you(CCP) dare start charging real money for those future costumization options Would have much preferred that they were here allready, in the creator, where they are supposed to be.
Now... no more new things, no more inovations or ideas! Eve is a huge game, and it is absolutely packed with things that don't work. Sooooo many things that needs some love. So please please please, don't make more new stuff that breaks old, and old new stuff... Overall: Not up to par. Could have been great, but isn't. Not as bad as apocrapha though, i'll give ccp that much. (That really was the worstest patch in mmorpg history, yuk!)
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Sludgeface
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Posted - 2011.01.20 22:01:00 -
[709]
I know it's been brought up several times already but
"Some players are unable to remove neutral pilots from the overview."
..is really causing a lot of problems, and needs to be repaired/restored to its former functionality.
Please?
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Shurikane
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Posted - 2011.01.20 22:07:00 -
[710]
Originally by: Amon Shirr All that fuss, and that massivly elaborate creator. Chars having movement and such. And all you get from it is a portrait? Very uninspired in my humble opinion. If you make this sort of thing, do it all the way: Live portraits, that blink, make faces, smile laugh and frown. Give us voices so that when we blow eachother up, we see the face of our victim and hear them scream. That would have made this whole customization alot more interresting, and add a whole new level of depth to eve in general. Heck, we could even add this to rats, giving even trivial NPCs a little life.
Past devblogs have stated that the full-body setup is in preparation for Incarna. So the same character you just took a picture of will be used when walking outside your ship.
Also, moving faces in the chat interface might not be desirable, especially in-space where you seek to keep your FPS count high.
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jimosoi
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Posted - 2011.01.20 22:21:00 -
[711]
it took an hour for me to load the character creation after my 4th attempt. I made the avatar with the very limited choices of hair/clothes/glasses etc and now going to the portrait wont load. ive turned all setting to minimum, even tho my machine is good and still nothing. I like character creators, but this doesn't even work.
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Skyreth
Gallente SOL Combat War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2011.01.20 22:35:00 -
[712]
The OP post on this thread has changed. Check out the Character Creator Update link. Re-customisation will be available several times in the future when new options are released, inc new accessories and even tattoos. So, take a chill pill people, CCP seemed to have actually listened.
Although next time they may want to post (instead of altering the OP) that they have checked the threads =P
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Sgt Hans
Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.01.20 23:03:00 -
[713]
How about fixing the jukebox endless scrolling to next track bug?
This has been raised many time since 09, pull your fingers out ccp.
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Tropikana
Amarr The Rough Riders Ares Protectiva
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Posted - 2011.01.20 23:43:00 -
[714]
Edited by: Tropikana on 20/01/2011 23:45:41 Edited by: Tropikana on 20/01/2011 23:43:38 What I created using the character creator (thats what I originaly had on the login screen)
After having disconected I now look like : this
I had tested a robe with a hood just before but I decided not going with the robe. Switched for a jacket(i didnt put the hood back down)... Seems CCP's server wanted me to have a jacket with a hood :s
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Bhattran
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Posted - 2011.01.21 00:33:00 -
[715]
Originally by: Tropikana Edited by: Tropikana on 20/01/2011 23:45:41 Edited by: Tropikana on 20/01/2011 23:43:38 What I created using the character creator (thats what I originaly had on the login screen)
After having disconected I now look like : this
I had tested a robe with a hood just before but I decided not going with the robe. Switched for a jacket(i didnt put the hood back down)... Seems CCP's server wanted me to have a jacket with a hood :s
I dub it hoodie, if anyone else wants one it costs 1 plex.
--WIS/Incarna/Ambulation where microtransactions come to play, and uh bars.-- |
Glyken Touchon
Independent Alchemists
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Posted - 2011.01.21 00:52:00 -
[716]
somehow, my in-space FPS has increased from ~30max to ~48max (old backup laptop with min settings while waiting for new rig).
Some of the CC colour buttons don't seem to match what is displayed (but that could be this PC..) fidgetting should stop when a sculpt area is highlighted. The history bar in the CC got so many positive comments on Sisi- why didn't it make it to TQ? Eyelids should be a posable option for portraits rather than blinking. Current clothing options seem deliberately limited to stimulate a demand in incarna- either via MT or player-made. Not necessarily a bad thing, but has disappointed a lot of people.
While the portraits may look different, the faces in them often don't, which is worrying for Incarna. Hopefully tattoos/implants/headgear/more hairstyles will allow facial recognition.
Will the portrait post-incarna adapt to whatever clothes the character last wore?
PI seems good overall- The UI is one hell of an improvement, but I'll give it a couple of weeks to settle in before judging the numbers (fitting/output etc).
Retriever- please tell me this is a bug with the skin/render? the procurer & covetor still look "normal".
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Jaric Ivainson
Caldari Level 5 Industries
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Posted - 2011.01.21 01:48:00 -
[717]
Thoughts...
Character Creator: Other than causing game to crash after saving my new portrait and logging in a new alt...no problems and rather pleased with the outcome except that you don't have a choice of a full-body pose.
Hot-Keys: No idea, didn't use before and probably won't for a while until the bugs are worked out from what I've read here.
PI: Ah...now that is something I have a lot to say about...
I love the fact that the clickfest is gone...amen. While it took some playing around with, I like the way the new ECUs/Drillheads work, especially with the information as to the total output over the program time VERY USEFUL INFORMATION
I am also pleased to see that you can't see other players networks...always thought that was a rip off to the guys (and gals) that spent the time training Planetology to the max and all someone else had to do was look to see where they were extracting. (at least I can't see where my other alts new set-ups are) HOWEVER...
With the new ECUs showing you where the best extracting points are AND that it seems HOTSPOTS MOVE AROUND NOW...what is the purpose of having Advanced planetology in the first place. Recalled seeing in the blog notes that resources would move after the patch, not that they would move on a daily basis. THAT makes no sense to me (Unless we're talking a school of fish swimming around in the ocean)...resources don't just get up and migrate 500+ KMs from one day to the next.
Since I've always been a single resouce / planet operation, I actually find I'm able to extract and process more than I could before. This is especially noticeable on large planets (Gas) as you are not losing as much PG/CPU on links.
So overall:
Character Creator: 8/10 Hotkeys: No Opinion Planetary Interface (mixed): Clickfest 12/10; Ease of use 9/10; the "NEW" Moving Resources: -1/10
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Clementine A
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.21 02:04:00 -
[718]
Character creator drawback : my character is constantly moving while I try to morph it !! Given the slow FPS on mac, this is almost impossible to use...
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Mistress Frome
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.01.21 02:28:00 -
[719]
Setting shortcuts that use more than one key is damn near impossible. Would be nice if this was fixed.
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Niraad Khaaz
Minmatar Universal Exports
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Posted - 2011.01.21 02:58:00 -
[720]
I kinda like my new look tbh. Options for all those that really need to have thier char look like it did b4 would have been nice though.
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CRNA
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Posted - 2011.01.21 03:19:00 -
[721]
Originally by: Sludgeface I know it's been brought up several times already but
"Some players are unable to remove neutral pilots from the overview."
..is really causing a lot of problems, and needs to be repaired/restored to its former functionality.
Please?
I also had neutrals setup to blink yellow on my overview and local, and this isn't working. Is that as intended or a patch bug? I see the option is still there, but its not showing up in local, which is a big problem (for me)
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2011.01.21 05:13:00 -
[722]
CCP, I am yet again going to ask for some feedback on when you're going to remove the race-lock on clothing and hairstyles. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Gloredon
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Posted - 2011.01.21 05:33:00 -
[723]
Thanks CCP for nerfing PI 6 months after giving it to us. Just got all the characters I wanted to do PI with trained to the proper levels (some with buy-back points from learning skills, kudos on that idea), but now they can't manage the planets I've set for them, nor make what they need to make.
The ECUs use waaaaaay too much PG and CPU. I had planets running on plasma worlds that could build robotics from the ground up. This is now impossible, as you cannot get 4 ECUs on a planet and you can't extract more the one resource from a single ECU.
It appears that your redesign did not consider that people would want to extract more than two different materials on each planet.
I had 4 characters running PI (total 19 planets) and yes, if was a click fest, took me about an hour a night to go through them all. But now, I can't even make what I was making before, no chance of that. I had one character making Nanite Paste using 5 planets, now that's impossible to do with one character. I had another making components needed for T2 drone production (Robotics and Guidance systems), and two characters making POS fuel (one in lowsec on 4 planets, making all 5 fuel items, the other on 5 planets in highsec doing the same). Now I can't succeed with any of these plans.
Way to go!!
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Katy Ling
Gallente Crimnson Concept Flame Care Factor
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Posted - 2011.01.21 09:16:00 -
[724]
Although the player base should appreciate the valiant and positive effort from the CCP team to improved the game, there has been some things geting left out.
it is no longer possible to click on a avatar portrait and copy his corporation or alliance, that was useful.
also a problem that has been lasting for some time, since the mail list copy / paste issues, that haven't been addressed yet: example : Market -> Ships -> Battlecruisers -> Standars Cruisers -> Amarr -> (try to select / copy / paste Harbinger) it won't select and copy paste the proper letters, you will come out with something like : (arbinger )
as you move down the list, it gets worst and you get " The " which is related to the bellow description text ("cy is built on an ancient Amarrian ...) you simply can't copy none of that properly as it's discerned or something.
for those that like the character creator, it's very good, yes, but there are small unpolished roughness that prevent or make hard for people to achieve the intended outcome result (which leads to people feeling like dying for not achieving the pretended result and hinders the overall base contentment)
when ccp released a new character creator, not only they Lift the bar on what the player base needed to have as a hardware and software ... to deal with the new avatar generator, but also on how people expected to from the avatar creator to deliver.
some issues like : . The avatar keep moving constantly, wile people try to give those nice cheeks, without looking something coming out of a bad plastic job (lack of a freezing button) . some limitations in the avatar customisation (yes yes, tattoos will come eventually) cloths, backgrounds, accessory's, limitations on the avatar manipulation related with high, weight, racial, colour, all of that limit the player fun with it.
. other interesting aspect, is that lots of players seem to actually enjoy to play around customising they're avatars, and try to achieve that so dreamed result ... but they can't go back and change something that does not look as well in a small portrait, upsets player base.
. some old backgrounds are missed, if it was possible to reintroduce them, as well change the colours of those backgrounds, would be great.
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Vahligmarr
Minmatar Tribal Core
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Posted - 2011.01.21 09:34:00 -
[725]
i'm sure it has been already said, but i just want to congratulate ccp for the decison to bring in this huge character generator to eve. its simply the best i ever used in any game, no other mmo is close to that. the whole incarna thing will bring eve to a new level in terms of indetification with your character, which is always good for a rpg.
+ thx for the AA option, it was so needed
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DaiZom B
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Posted - 2011.01.21 11:34:00 -
[726]
Originally by: CRNA I also had neutrals setup to blink yellow on my overview and local, and this isn't working. Is that as intended or a patch bug? I see the option is still there, but its not showing up in local, which is a big problem (for me)
same here. its essential
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Katy Ling
Gallente Crimnson Concept Flame Care Factor
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Posted - 2011.01.21 12:01:00 -
[727]
Originally by: DaiZom B
Originally by: CRNA I also had neutrals setup to blink yellow on my overview and local, and this isn't working. Is that as intended or a patch bug? I see the option is still there, but its not showing up in local, which is a big problem (for me)
same here. its essential
in a very strange way, a neutral was actually showing properly tagged on the overview, but most don't show up properly, that is very inconvenient.
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DickGrayson
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Posted - 2011.01.21 12:36:00 -
[728]
I havent experienced character creator since my computer just sits waiting to go to the site, I even tried letting it sit half an hour once. no go. why even go to all the trouble to create a character, just get in the game and play. i cant even picture whay my character looks like, or used to look like. And PI went from bad to horrible. everyone i know has dismantled their pi. what a waste of skill learning. as for the patch itself, i was impressed that there were no emergency shut downs, or unexplained boots the next several days after. seemed to go much smoother, that was nice.
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DickGrayson
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Posted - 2011.01.21 12:41:00 -
[729]
Originally by: Gloredon Thanks CCP for nerfing PI 6 months after giving it to us. Just got all the characters I wanted to do PI with trained to the proper levels (some with buy-back points from learning skills, kudos on that idea), but now they can't manage the planets I've set for them, nor make what they need to make.
The ECUs use waaaaaay too much PG and CPU. I had planets running on plasma worlds that could build robotics from the ground up. This is now impossible, as you cannot get 4 ECUs on a planet and you can't extract more the one resource from a single ECU.
It appears that your redesign did not consider that people would want to extract more than two different materials on each planet.
I had 4 characters running PI (total 19 planets) and yes, if was a click fest, took me about an hour a night to go through them all. But now, I can't even make what I was making before, no chance of that. I had one character making Nanite Paste using 5 planets, now that's impossible to do with one character. I had another making components needed for T2 drone production (Robotics and Guidance systems), and two characters making POS fuel (one in lowsec on 4 planets, making all 5 fuel items, the other on 5 planets in highsec doing the same). Now I can't succeed with any of these plans.
Way to go!!
I second this opinion.
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DickGrayson
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Posted - 2011.01.21 12:43:00 -
[730]
Originally by: Gloredon Thanks CCP for nerfing PI 6 months after giving it to us. Just got all the characters I wanted to do PI with trained to the proper levels (some with buy-back points from learning skills, kudos on that idea), but now they can't manage the planets I've set for them, nor make what they need to make.
The ECUs use waaaaaay too much PG and CPU. I had planets running on plasma worlds that could build robotics from the ground up. This is now impossible, as you cannot get 4 ECUs on a planet and you can't extract more the one resource from a single ECU.
It appears that your redesign did not consider that people would want to extract more than two different materials on each planet.
I had 4 characters running PI (total 19 planets) and yes, if was a click fest, took me about an hour a night to go through them all. But now, I can't even make what I was making before, no chance of that. I had one character making Nanite Paste using 5 planets, now that's impossible to do with one character. I had another making components needed for T2 drone production (Robotics and Guidance systems), and two characters making POS fuel (one in lowsec on 4 planets, making all 5 fuel items, the other on 5 planets in highsec doing the same). Now I can't succeed with any of these plans.
Way to go!!
I totally agree. Used to be able to build several items on the same planet. Total nerf.
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DickGrayson
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Posted - 2011.01.21 12:45:00 -
[731]
I totally agree, used to be able to build several items on the same planet from ground up, not any more. total nerf.
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Kaltruz Shima
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Posted - 2011.01.21 13:49:00 -
[732]
Originally by: Gloredon Thanks CCP for nerfing PI 6 months after giving it to us. Just got all the characters I wanted to do PI with trained to the proper levels (some with buy-back points from learning skills, kudos on that idea), but now they can't manage the planets I've set for them, nor make what they need to make.
The ECUs use waaaaaay too much PG and CPU. I had planets running on plasma worlds that could build robotics from the ground up. This is now impossible, as you cannot get 4 ECUs on a planet and you can't extract more the one resource from a single ECU.
It appears that your redesign did not consider that people would want to extract more than two different materials on each planet.
I had 4 characters running PI (total 19 planets) and yes, if was a click fest, took me about an hour a night to go through them all. But now, I can't even make what I was making before, no chance of that. I had one character making Nanite Paste using 5 planets, now that's impossible to do with one character. I had another making components needed for T2 drone production (Robotics and Guidance systems), and two characters making POS fuel (one in lowsec on 4 planets, making all 5 fuel items, the other on 5 planets in highsec doing the same). Now I can't succeed with any of these plans.
Way to go!!
Agreed.
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LeJen
Minmatar The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.01.21 13:56:00 -
[733]
-------:My Positive & Negative Thoughts About The New Character Creator:-------
Awesome. You guys have clearly put a lot of effort and it has certainly paid off.
I feel more attached to my character now, and I can't wait until I can see the fully realized version in later versions.
Very Intuitive! Without even clicking on the Question Mark for help I was able to manipulate the character without ever feeling confused.
Noticeable improvement in performance.
Although the clothing style felt like different variations of the same 4-5 templates, I think it was good to start out with.
For female models, there is an unmistakable Asian appearance I couldn't change very easily, no matter what I did.
Great Job on the hair. I'm loving how it falls around the character, especially for the female models.
The Braided hair style is masterfully done in my opinion. The best I've seen in a game, and certainly not of a quality I would expect from a game where most players spend their time looking at ships rather than actual faces or portraits.
For my particular race, bloodline, and gender of my Main character, (Minmatar, Vherokior, Female), I was really disappointed in the lack of a sufficiently dark complexion for the skin. It felt more like I was tuning the light settings rather than changing the complexion, and at the darkest settings it merely looked as if I just left the beach with a modest tan.
Even when I first created this character four years, I was still put off by the lack of darker choices; and now this new release adds salt onto the wound. Perhaps it has something to do with my chosen bloodline why only with my selection are those darker complexions absent. If this is the case, I seriously regret my bloodline choice today.
I believe a darker complexion, should be available for all bloodlines and even all other races, too.Please address this issue.
Thank You developers for all your hard work. I hope at least one of you sees, reads, and understands my thoughts & suggestions and considers them for implementation in some future release.
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Phopptimus Prime
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Posted - 2011.01.21 14:10:00 -
[734]
Originally by: Gloredon Thanks CCP for nerfing PI 6 months after giving it to us. Just got all the characters I wanted to do PI with trained to the proper levels (some with buy-back points from learning skills, kudos on that idea), but now they can't manage the planets I've set for them, nor make what they need to make.
The ECUs use waaaaaay too much PG and CPU. I had planets running on plasma worlds that could build robotics from the ground up. This is now impossible, as you cannot get 4 ECUs on a planet and you can't extract more the one resource from a single ECU.
It appears that your redesign did not consider that people would want to extract more than two different materials on each planet.
I had 4 characters running PI (total 19 planets) and yes, if was a click fest, took me about an hour a night to go through them all. But now, I can't even make what I was making before, no chance of that. I had one character making Nanite Paste using 5 planets, now that's impossible to do with one character. I had another making components needed for T2 drone production (Robotics and Guidance systems), and two characters making POS fuel (one in lowsec on 4 planets, making all 5 fuel items, the other on 5 planets in highsec doing the same). Now I can't succeed with any of these plans.
Way to go!!
^^This but minus the !!'s
I too was extracting 3-4 things from planets, can not do this now because ECUs use too much PG/CPU compared to individual extractors. Could alternate what I extract but that slows down the factory process, putting POS Fuel supplies at 2x the wait time. Likely to see a marked increase in POS fuels in the future as current PI, while getting immensely easier to manage, seems to have gimped ability to diversify/balance/tune.
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Perkles
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Posted - 2011.01.21 14:15:00 -
[735]
Originally by: xHjfx The Retriever is looking unusually golden and bright..
Right! Now looks like a yellow ****box! Who paint it yellow? Please, shot this person! I give bounty for this person in EVE!
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Bouba Centaury
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Posted - 2011.01.21 14:22:00 -
[736]
Hi CCP,
Thank's for new Character creator. We need more options (update, more cloath, tatoo, etc.), but it's a good first step and the result ingame is crazy! very nice :)
And change the Retriever color, its horrible!
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Galen Kamari
Gallente Pelican. Violent Entity
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Posted - 2011.01.21 14:54:00 -
[737]
As additional feedback on an issue has already been given in another thread, I'll refer to Color Tags??
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Raylis Halitsu
Gallente Grid Square Removal System Draconian Protection Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.01.21 15:10:00 -
[738]
Needs more clothing!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Greniard
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Posted - 2011.01.21 15:17:00 -
[739]
Any chance we could get back the ability to remove pilots without set standings from overview?! Camping Jita isn't that much fun now with all those pilots... :(
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Lalitola
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Posted - 2011.01.21 15:20:00 -
[740]
Great job CCP . Even though it was the mistakes of the players for rushing with their creations , including me , you gave us another chance to fix our mistakes . Love the character creation .
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Annasophia Smith
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Posted - 2011.01.21 15:26:00 -
[741]
Originally by: Raylis Halitsu Needs more clothing!!!!!!!!!!!!
No we don't. There should be a naturist option be mad available
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Brenda Smith
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Posted - 2011.01.21 15:33:00 -
[742]
Well CCP, I'm not gonna throw all my toys out of the pram like most of the people on this thread!
I'm more than happy with the changes that have been made, the new avatars have had me almost peeing my pants at times.
Good effort chaps
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Annasophia Smith
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Posted - 2011.01.21 15:37:00 -
[743]
I was talking to a corp mate last night and he brought up an interesting point. Some players play the game through mining for Plex to keep from having to pay a fee that they cant afford. Has CCP considered what a random incursion / reduction in all resist/ bonuses and non functioning implants will do to these players? A couple of my corp mates told me that they will be forced to leave if their mining ships get destroyed as they wont be able to re-coop from the loss. Granted CCP wouldn't miss them as they are not paying like a great deal of us. Oddly enough though we are paying for them to play. When we buy a plex and sell it to them for the isk. This could do away with a commodity in the game.
Having said that I would like to know just how randomized the incursion is as well as how sharp of a drop in the above mentioned categories we will take. Do players feel comfortable with the idea of losing out on making a few hundred million isk that this could bring.
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Annasophia Smith
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Posted - 2011.01.21 15:46:00 -
[744]
Originally by: Amantir Borg I want back my RED amarrian robe with hood.
How does it feel to want?
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Annasophia Smith
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Posted - 2011.01.21 15:50:00 -
[745]
Originally by: Rough Beast Edited by: Rough Beast on 20/01/2011 02:25:02 My toon looked at the new PI and left my character screen it was so bad...change it back!!!
CCCP Dont listen to him. He knows not what he is saying.
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Annasophia Smith
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Posted - 2011.01.21 16:01:00 -
[746]
Originally by: Laura Commercializes Edited by: Laura Comerciantes on 19/01/2011 20:57:56 Edited by: Laura Commercializes on 19/01/2011 20:57:32 97% of all comments here are negative opinions, 2% are whining/flaming/non-constructive and 1% is positive (although, one comment of this 1% praised the new neocom, seems like this one is a paid ghost writer ^^)
629 comments, mostly with constructive criticism and negative feelings about different things and CCP did not ever care to post SOMETHING (not even a "stfu") to comment this. I do work as a software developer and if i would treat my (paying) customers THAT way, i won't earn the money anymore to buy basic food. If any other mass industry would launch a product that underdeveloped as this patch, they all would have to close down (think of cars with non functional gas pedals... oh, wait...)
My opinion about the patch has been said by hundreds of others before (PI - thanks for not be able to produce T3 anymore, CC - thanks for cloning 500k players), so i really want to get a feedback from CCP, no matter what, just a statement about hundreds of upset players - and what is going to calm them down.
Laura
You make a good point. Since CCP hasn't even put in one comment about the issues that were posted as concerns, most of which were constructive some were people venting, leads me to believe that these concerns will eventually get buried under the delete button or ignored. CCP Please comment on these criticisms. Since you asked for the feed back it sure would be nice to get feed back on the feed back.
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Ryy Kishin
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Posted - 2011.01.21 16:08:00 -
[747]
Thanks for letting us re create our characters, too bad I cant see the new one in game. Still shows old picture. Even cleared the cache. Nothing. ------------------------------------------------ Live Hard Die Young Leave A Good Looking Corpse.
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Zhula Guixgrixks
Increasing Success by Lowering Expectations
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Posted - 2011.01.21 16:10:00 -
[748]
Great job with the character creator CCP! I really enjoyed exploring the possibilities.
Some issues: - SSE2 enforcement - height & weight constraints of avatars are too strict - small amount of clothes - fixed light sources - backgrounds (only 80 ?, moirT patterns)
Overall very good job ! Thank you Can we hope for a external/API version in the future :-) ?
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Cpt SpyOnYou
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Posted - 2011.01.21 16:12:00 -
[749]
Dear CCP, All and all the patch is ok. With that said I am unimpressed with character creation system, maybe the DEV team should look at "SECOND LIFES" avatar creation system and learn from it. Also I paid cash to have my portrait transferred to my main account. I would like some kind of reimbursement or are you just taking my money with out compensation? Seems to me the patch is very buggy which shows lack of planning or for site. Or is this the beginning of the sell out for quantity for quality.
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www www
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Posted - 2011.01.21 16:26:00 -
[750]
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Claire Voyant
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Posted - 2011.01.21 16:52:00 -
[751]
The default keyboard shortcut for "Toggle Autopilot" just says "ALT-" and I can't figure out what it is supposed to be. I will set my own, but it would be nice to know what the default is so that when it gets fixed I won't have to relearn the command yet again.
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Hakaru Ishiwara
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.01.21 16:54:00 -
[752]
Originally by: Cpt SpyOnYou ... Or is this the beginning of the sell out for quantity for quality.
The beginning. About seven months ago, CCP employees were quoted as saying that the quantity of updates to a game counted more than the quality of those updates.
CCP, as a business, should always be focused on the bottom line. But as a smart business, they should understand that quality of service / product as well as their customers' perception of that quality almost always impacts the bottom line for better or worse. CCP is still maturing as a business and is just catching on that quality matters.
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Anna Graant
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Posted - 2011.01.21 17:04:00 -
[753]
Edited by: Anna Graant on 21/01/2011 17:06:05 Awright geeezzaa's! I am a dir'y ****'y little space whawer, but im forced in'er wearin' da clothes ov a tomboy action solider wannabe. Cor Blimey g'vnor! My Eartha Kitts are noway free enough to bounce abaaaht da place, an' 'ows anyone gonna cop a eyefull ov me old Morris Minor? Im running right outta hillman hunters!! Nuff said, yeah?
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Pugzilla Black
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Posted - 2011.01.21 17:26:00 -
[754]
Originally by: Shurikane
Originally by: Amon Shirr All that fuss, and that massivly elaborate creator. Chars having movement and such. And all you get from it is a portrait? Very uninspired in my humble opinion. If you make this sort of thing, do it all the way: Live portraits, that blink, make faces, smile laugh and frown. Give us voices so that when we blow eachother up, we see the face of our victim and hear them scream. That would have made this whole customization alot more interresting, and add a whole new level of depth to eve in general. Heck, we could even add this to rats, giving even trivial NPCs a little life.
Past devblogs have stated that the full-body setup is in preparation for Incarna. So the same character you just took a picture of will be used when walking outside your ship.
Also, moving faces in the chat interface might not be desirable, especially in-space where you seek to keep your FPS count high.
As much fun as it would be WTF faces and screams when someone's ship goes boom, I'm with Shurikane on this one in that it would be overly CPU intensive for most of us.
Another person in this thread mentioned Second Life's style character maker. I think such a thing would be great once Incarna rolls out. Naturally though, devs should focus on space and adding more content there.
Pugz
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Ben Dower
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Posted - 2011.01.21 18:02:00 -
[755]
Im having some problems with the redo of this char. I was redesigning him because i didnt like they way he looked. Took me 2 hours as it is final final final. Then i pressed "finalize" and was back in the login screen. After my redo the char had som "pixel errors" or artifacts around the eyes, this sometimes happends when the picture is first generated.
I found out ealier that clearing cache solved this, and you get a nice picture without the "pixel errors". So i cleared cache, client restarted and i somehow ended up with my "old picture". The one you see atm. Ive made a petition to get the char Ben Dower reset.
Anyone else had this problem?
Besides from above I think its a great editor. I have spend hours playing in it. I think its a mistake you cant keep customizing as much as you want, i mean, why spend 2 years making an editor if you can only use it once pr char? We should be able to customize as much as we want within our faction/race ofc.
My 5 cent.
Update.
I just realized that the pic on forums is the right one. The one i have in login screen/ingame is the old one. Clearing cache not working.
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Mecinia Lua
Galactic Express The Spire Collective
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Posted - 2011.01.21 18:08:00 -
[756]
Something is wrong with Military Indexes. I just spent 4 hours doing anoms/ratting with friends and it barely moved 4% total. That's ridiculous. Something in the code messed it up and if you want more folks in 0.0 you need to fix it. Not sure what you did to exactly break it but it obviously can't be counting things the same.
At the same time you might look into halving what was the industry index requirements. You keep saying you want more small and medium size alliances out in 0.0 but you hamstring them at every chance.
Thoughts expressed are mine and mine alone. They do not necessarily reflect my alliances thoughts.
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Akaylah Lafisques
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Posted - 2011.01.21 18:19:00 -
[757]
Originally by: Ben Dower I think its a mistake you cant keep customizing as much as you want, i mean, why spend 2 years making an editor if you can only use it once pr char? We should be able to customize as much as we want within our faction/race ofc.
I disagree. It's not realistic to change your physical appearance on a regular basis. Your hair style/color, clothes, and such will be regularly re-customizable in a future expansion (Incarna I suspect).
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Ben Dower
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Posted - 2011.01.21 18:43:00 -
[758]
Originally by: Akaylah Lafisques
Originally by: Ben Dower I think its a mistake you cant keep customizing as much as you want, i mean, why spend 2 years making an editor if you can only use it once pr char? We should be able to customize as much as we want within our faction/race ofc.
I disagree. It's not realistic to change your physical appearance on a regular basis. Your hair style/color, clothes, and such will be regularly re-customizable in a future expansion (Incarna I suspect).
Do you really want to play the realisme card in an argument about a game of spaceships, warp drives and human cloning?
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Kalpel
Caldari United Systems of the Allegiance Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2011.01.21 18:48:00 -
[759]
" Neutrals " I cannot add color to neutrals in OV or local window, Neutrals still show up in my FLEET ONLY settings in OV
" Selected Item " Selected items window does not STAY PINNED, it still resizes itself after undocking
" NPC rats " They now make sounds of communicating with each other for longer than NORMAL
PLEASE remove the new "shadow box" from system info ( top left hand corner ) or the option to turn it off thank you!
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Danica Duan
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Posted - 2011.01.21 18:52:00 -
[760]
Originally by: Akaylah Lafisques
Originally by: Ben Dower I think its a mistake you cant keep customizing as much as you want, i mean, why spend 2 years making an editor if you can only use it once pr char? We should be able to customize as much as we want within our faction/race ofc.
I disagree. It's not realistic to change your physical appearance on a regular basis. Your hair style/color, clothes, and such will be regularly re-customizable in a future expansion (Incarna I suspect).
We have our consciousness zapped from clone to clone... We have CLONES! You don't think we'd have the technology to alter personal appearance at a whim in our wonderful world of internet spaceships? Why not? Even assuming such a procedure is expensive--heading in to the gene-doc on a station would be kinda cool--we're capsuleers, and rich by definition, if you'll recall the back story.
On another note, I've seen massive amounts of whining in this thread, and I have to say that even though I screwed up my portrait the first time around, I was prepared to live with it. It was my fault. CCP has made it right, and even if the choices are limited now, the character creator is actually pretty good. Having the ability to regularly use an expanded version of this feature will be very welcome.
Also, I have to agree with the mention of clothing. Clothes is clothes, so to speak, and I'm assuming that Caldari clothiers would happily sell military surplus uniforms to Gallente pilots, for example.
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Wolf Spyder
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Posted - 2011.01.21 19:11:00 -
[761]
Originally by: Akaylah Lafisques
Originally by: Ben Dower I think its a mistake you cant keep customizing as much as you want, i mean, why spend 2 years making an editor if you can only use it once pr char? We should be able to customize as much as we want within our faction/race ofc.
I disagree. It's not realistic to change your physical appearance on a regular basis. Your hair style/color, clothes, and such will be regularly re-customizable in a future expansion (Incarna I suspect).
I think being able to update all aspects of your character should be do able. Especially when this Incarna thing hits us. In regards to physical shape of the body, people do get in to shape or out of shape all the time. Although not shown daily. It should be allowed to be altered through whatever types of food stuffs might become available after incarna or if that is left out then a once a year option should be granted. As for clothes there should be a great deal more offered for sure regardless of race specific. If clothing was only available to certain people based on their race there would be riots in the streets protesting it. At the moment the creator shows promise for improvements. I only hope CCP answers the phone. because I am tired of answering phone and hearing the 80's say they want there glasses back. as for clothes I see everyone is shopping at the same store I do. My choice in style must be "in".
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Xintri Ra'Virr
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Posted - 2011.01.21 19:21:00 -
[762]
Why are you complaining so much guys? New avatars need some WORK from YOU not CCP to look like you want to. Don't complain if you spent 5 minutes to create them and now you are complaining about your lazyness and forum is flooded with your tears. IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT IF YOU LOOK LIKE A MORON / FAT BITC* / WHATEVER NOW NOT CCP. I'm very satisfied with new avatars.
<=== Just look at Xinrti. She is sexy like a hell now ^^ Too bad you cannot see her bottom
All i have to say Good job CCP and keep it going.
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Mr Cleann
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.01.21 19:27:00 -
[763]
Originally by: Zhula Guixgrixks Great job with the character creator CCP! I really enjoyed exploring the possibilities.
Some issues: - SSE2 enforcement - height & weight constraints of avatars are too strict - small amount of clothes - fixed light sources - backgrounds (only 80 ?, moirT patterns)
Overall very good job ! Thank you Can we hope for a external/API version in the future :-) ?
For added backgrounds, more ship interiors like the bridge or other areas would be nice. Not sure if the SSE2 issue can be fixed. from what I read it was an unexpected softhwere update for their servers. The patch notes have a link about it. yes we need a lot more options for clothes and it shouldn't be race specific. They should be made available to all races. For those that want race only garb then perhaps putting the styles in various race categories, but making them available to all. Get more glass styles out there. The 80's called and they want their glasses back or they are going to fund the Angel Cartel to come get them from anyone that is wearing them. Be the kind of man that when your feet hit the floor each morning, the devil says "Oh crap, he's up!"
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Fer DeLance
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Posted - 2011.01.21 19:27:00 -
[764]
When an orca account disconnects all ships in itÆs ship maintenance bay get their modules off lined, soà
First thing you didnÆt fix: Off lined modules.
Gang bonuses still donÆt work as indented. If you dock and undock, you donÆt get any bonuses even though gang booster is present in space. You need to revoke booster, and then re-set fleet booster in order to gain the bonuses, soà
Second thing you didnÆt fix: Gang bonuses.
When using two accounts (that is paying for two accounts) in window mode, the sun flashes and flickers so fast that makes my eyes hurt. Whenever I fly to the direction of the sun, I need to turn my camera to another direction because itÆs UNPLAYABLE looking at the sun after the patch, soà
Third thing you didnÆt fix: Sun flickering.
When changing ship, from an OrcaÆs ship maintenance bay, you may not be able to dock at a station when you try to. It depends on where you land after the warp. If you land within the stationÆs docking range, then you will NOT dock no matter how many times you try. You have to move outside the docking range, and then request to dock. In the meanwhile, you may be dead, soà
Fourth thing you didnÆt fix: The docking bug.
And of course the window mode still does not overlap the task bar as it did before the patch.
Fix these things soon, I donÆt even feel like undocking anymore. Thanx.
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Claire Voyant
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Posted - 2011.01.21 19:39:00 -
[765]
When copying contracts, the following do not copy:
1. The name on a private contract 2. The expiration (of a courier contract) 3. The items (would love to have it pick out identical items from the hangar, but I'm not holding my breath on this one.) 4. When the items come from corp deliveries, it doesn't even give you the option of picking from deliveries when copying. Each contract must be created from scratch each time.
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Akaylah Lafisques
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Posted - 2011.01.21 20:13:00 -
[766]
Originally by: Claire Voyant The default keyboard shortcut for "Toggle Autopilot" just says "ALT-" and I can't figure out what it is supposed to be. I will set my own, but it would be nice to know what the default is so that when it gets fixed I won't have to relearn the command yet again.
That indicates that there is no currently selected keyboard shortcut. This is confusing, however, and it should just say 'NONE' or something.
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Che Biko
Humanitarian Communists
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Posted - 2011.01.21 20:18:00 -
[767]
Edited by: Che Biko on 21/01/2011 20:18:30 Hmmm, based on the feedback (I've had colonies extracting 2-4 different resources in the past, but not ATM) I think It would be better if:
A) The PG/CPU requirements of the ECU would depend on the amount of extractors heads used. or B) You could make a seperate program for each resource (on a single ECU), and assign heads to a program.
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Silus Tirol
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Posted - 2011.01.21 20:23:00 -
[768]
Edited by: Silus Tirol on 21/01/2011 20:23:42 Edited by: Silus Tirol on 21/01/2011 20:23:15 RE: Neutrals on Overview
It is awkward now to require an explicit neutral contact to see neutrals on the overview. I believe that more 99% of the time, people set contacts positive or negative based on some recent experience with a player or corp, but rarely would anyone explicitly set a neutral contact. Furthermore the ability to filter the overview based on (what formerly was assumed) neutrality is now removed.
I propose a new check-box option: "Assume no contact is neutral" (default yes)
This would maintain the new functionality while enabling us to assume neutrality (as before). Please consider this. Thanks.
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Drksniper001
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Posted - 2011.01.21 21:37:00 -
[769]
I downloaded the patch which messed up somehow so I went ahead and downloaded the full build again Then Installed it but now all that happens is the main incursion sign comes up and thats it, the game will not launch at all. Im running windows xp professional version 2002, service pack 3, on an intel pentium 4 3.2 GHz, 1 gb ram, nividia GeForce 8500 GT 512mb directX version 9.0c any help would be appreciated thanks
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Abramul
Gallente StarFleet Enterprises Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2011.01.21 21:56:00 -
[770]
Had posted here, but looks like this is the proper place for feedback. One-line summaries: -Add notification and reference link for video cards that don't support character editor lighting -Add an option to automatically create a default or random character on the login create/wait option -Old backgrounds -'Closest match to old character' option once everything else is done
In addition (new in this post): -Allow auto-loading encountered characters to be disabled -Text-only/small portrait options for channel lists and station guests tab -Allow local to be set to 'recent speakers' -If possible, add a 'Standings summary' option that would replace the local list with counts of WTs/reds/neuts/blues/alliance/corp.
Why all the suggested changes to local? 'Load cargo in Jita, autopilot to Amarr, dock' resulted in memory usage going from a normal 1GB up to 1.3GB, and I believe this was entirely a result of autopulling character portraits. I'll try leaving a character logged into Jita with all channels set to Small Portrait to see if this is accurate.
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Hawk64
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Posted - 2011.01.21 22:15:00 -
[771]
Had fun creating 4 possible portraits for my character really disapointed that I cant switch between them. I skimmed through several pages of the posts to see if I could find information about the new contract system nouthing stood out Am I looking at the wrong list?
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WKT22
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Posted - 2011.01.21 22:55:00 -
[772]
Character creator fails to start up. I updated with the last patch today and the Character Creator still does not load. The words "Entering Character Creation" and progress meter are on screen. Meter fills up and then... Nothing. Black screen with those words and full meter but thats as far as it loads. I'm running Windows Vista and game seems to be ok but unable to make any character. Can't wait to see what this new editor is all about. Hope it's fixed soon.
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limosaur
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Posted - 2011.01.21 23:22:00 -
[773]
Downloaded latest patch, character creator still doesn't start up. Everything else in the game works fine.
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Stoned Dragonias
Amarr Southern Cross Empire Flying Dangerous
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Posted - 2011.01.21 23:39:00 -
[774]
Neutrals still do not show up with the color selected in overview settings, in local or overview. This used to be done automatically, now it appears you want us to do it manually.
If you go to overview settings > appearance > colortags, and put your mouse over the pilot has neutral standing the tool tip states "true if pilot has neutral personal, corporation, alliance standing".
If a pilot as no standings they should automatically be set neutral and the colortag should apply.
Also Hoods for Amarr is still bugged I created my character without a hood, on the character select the character has the correct rendering without a hood but in game and on forums I have a hood.
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Iam Widdershins
Project Nemesis WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2011.01.21 23:45:00 -
[775]
I posted here.
No responses yet, but to summarize:
Overview filtering and appearance settings for neutrals are broken (CCP says this was on purpose)
Set Chat Channel Focus hotkey is broken
Everything is terrible
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Lokiathar
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2011.01.21 23:49:00 -
[776]
I realize that CCP did not create the problem with the SSE2 instructions, and their finding it and letting us know the problem is a good thing. I certainly hope they can get something done as a workaround for those of us in the 0.3% that are hit by it, since it will be months at least before I can afford to get a new computer.
One thing I am wondering though. Why is a bug that is keeping thousands of paying customers from actually playing the game listed as a Feature of the update? Most games I play would list that under something like, Known Problems, to indicate that it is considered a "bad" thing.
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Abramul
Gallente StarFleet Enterprises Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2011.01.21 23:50:00 -
[777]
Originally by: Emperor Palpatine
Also Hoods for Amarr is still bugged I created my character without a hood, on the character select the character has the correct rendering without a hood but in game and on forums I have a hood.
Resetting your cache should fix this, although it looks like your in-game portrait has a hood. If you used the redo option, I'd wait until tomorrow after downtime and see if it's updated. In the meantime, I'd recommend that you avoid forest moons.
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Morfig
Caldari De Re Metallica
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Posted - 2011.01.22 01:07:00 -
[778]
Ok, just spent some time getting my two characters new looks.
Firstly I thought the UI was *generally* easy to use with a couple of exceptions. (Too late for me but perhaps new players in the future might benefit).
I have a lower spec graphics card. At high quality settings the frame rate was so low as to make the majority of changes impossible. I took to doing the majority of changes in "performance" graphics mode and then fine detail in "quality" mode. - Frustrating and time consuming.
The context based pointer tools, (body/face sculpting, head posing, zoom and rotation), didn't always work the way I expected. Sometimes they didn't show up at all. (Particularly in "quality" mode where frame rates where low). I had to toggle between the "customisation" screen and the "snapshot" screen to get them to work again. - I suggest a toolbar where you can select the tool (as well as the context based pointing method).
The help was a bit brief on how to use the new UI. I spent about 1-2 hours just getting familiar with the UI before committing anything. (I thought this was too long).
I liked the ability to bypass the character creation process if you wanted to do a couple of quick things in game.
The choices of hair and clothes I thought was limited. I particularly had my heart set on long shoulder length hair for my male Caldari character but this was no an option. . Oh and by the way, What happened to the Caldari face tattoos? - gone!
Is there going to be a method to change your look (hair cut, tatt's clothes), later on?
I think it will help those of us with low spec graphics that even though we edit in low res mode, that the snap shots are rendered in hi-res mode and you get to see all sizes of pictures used in game so we can see exactly what we will look like and our local cache will have the real image.
I have a situation with one character. I took the snap shot in low res mode *MY* cached copy is the low res version (even in game), but everyone else gets to see the high res version. (I actually still don't know how to get the hi-res copy in game).
When sculpting the body I would also like to see some popup interface, so that I know what will happen when I move the mouse up-down, left-right. - Also I'd like an UNDO button. the number of times I tried something with sculpting and expressions, and then wanted to undo the change...and yet.
That's about all for my feedback.
I appreciate the size of the changes you've made and how difficult they are. And yet I'm asking for more changes...
Sorry for the long post.
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Dee D
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Posted - 2011.01.22 02:00:00 -
[779]
Suggestion:
Allow us to 'resume pose from portrait.'
Ie; I really like portrait 2, but I wouldn't mind giving that eyebrow a bit of a tweak. Double click portrait, and the character is returned to that exact same pose, lighting, background, etc. I can then play with it and save as portrait 4.
0.02 isk.
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Care Less
The Viral Intergalactic Exports Group
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Posted - 2011.01.22 02:27:00 -
[780]
1/ - Neutral colour tags broken 2/ - Drone controls broken, not opening even after launching drones manually from open drone bay and returning. 3/ - Horrible sunlight full screen flashes 4/ - Military index values changed/broken/bugged. 5/ - Anomalies not despawning after completion. (havens + sanctums)
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StarLord
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.22 02:29:00 -
[781]
I can't believe how this works like it does, its not easy. I had a old man with the top of his head bald and white hair that stuck up on the sides. Now I can't seen to find a mad scientist look. Where's the white lab coats? I'd like to ask why ccp didn't let us have a choice to start with our original char look and change from there or a choice to create an new face. No now we have to change our appearance so we all look like barbie dolls. Who designed this someone who plays dress up? Their all to perfect.
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BertieTheBoxer
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Posted - 2011.01.22 03:07:00 -
[782]
Love the updates to the PI interface...the new extractor control units are great and the ability to fine tune the time of each extraction cycle means that PI folk can get a better return by maximising output. Character editor? Well, it may not be perfect, but I couldn't really care less about my avatar beyond it looking "ok". Eve is still the best game by a country mile, so thanks CCP for all your great work.
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Chad Lognion
Legion..
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Posted - 2011.01.22 03:26:00 -
[783]
The recustomization for the Character Creator pictures go back to the first one I did 3 days ago, it shows one of my toon's New portrait at the Character Select screen but his picture has distortions in it like idk hard to explain but it pretty much ruins the portrait :(.. But log in and BAM its the old one ... Help PLease
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DocsGirl
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Posted - 2011.01.22 03:29:00 -
[784]
Edited by: DocsGirl on 22/01/2011 03:35:39 Edited by: DocsGirl on 22/01/2011 03:34:35 Character Editor: The character editor is a great new way to create a character. I find that the variety of ways you can create the character seems to be lacking though. It appears that certain facial and body types are limited to the faction you use, which kind of makes it appear as if everyone's been inbreeding as the facial structures are not very varied.
One of my biggest gripes is the lighting for the final camera shots. Way too many shadows that end up making eyes look squinted or just overall weird when trying to get a good closeup shot of your avatar's face. I almost prefer the design mode view, take a snapshot of THAT and use it as my avatar's image. The lighting for the design view is almost perfect IMO.
I noticed that when I use makeup (had half opacity even) it ends up making the pictures for the avatar very different than when I look at the character in design mode. Because the pictures don't show enough detail, it makes it very difficult to find a good medium without your character looking like a freak (on a closeup).
Clothing is extremely limited and tops, bottoms, or boots don't even match. So there's no way to create a decent looking character.
Whoever designed the makeup styles... man I'd hate to see that person in real life. Those are some of the crappiest lipstick patterns EVAR!
Hair color options are very limited. Not very easy to make a hair style with bright colors such as lime green or other things to create a punk look.
Some of the hair styles just don't work well for the photo of the avatar. There are 4 styles that pretty much look similar when taking a proper photo: 1. Ponytail short 2. Ponytail long 3. Bun 4. Roll/Hair Tuck
There's no way to determine the difference in hair styles unless you do a 1/3 angle shot.
Facial expressions themselves are completely missing. Half the time when you try to make a character smile they end up looking angry or confused. It'd be nice to have a feature where you press buttons to go through several facial features; Angry, blowing a kiss, winking an eye, surprise, etc. The facial rigs seem to be there for it, so why wasn't it included?
The characters sure look more detailed in the character editor, but the portraits themselves for the game, in a way, haven't really improved much since you can't see any detail anyways. I'd love to see the ability to info a character and see a decent, good, large portrait. If you look at CCP StievieSG's image for example, the shot is way too small to see any detail and I bet if you lined up different characters in the same pose they'd look the same even though up close they're fundamentally different. I can't see makeup, or lipstick in his shot... so I'd say that the current portraits are very limiting.
Overall a good start... but that's all it appears to be, a good start. Just a shame it was released too early because it is missing a lot of good features.
Interestingly enough, speaking of early release... I'm working with a Gallente Jinmei Female and the eyelashes aren't on the eye-lids... they're disconnected and appear to be sitting on her eye's instead. And speaking of eyelashes... why does the guy get the eyelash thickness feature but the girls don't???
The eyeball's sclera is way too gray as well.
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Wolf Spyder
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Posted - 2011.01.22 03:49:00 -
[785]
You people need to quit your whining. Click on the link below and read the last few lines in it. Complain about the issues that will cut your ships resist, kill your implants and nerf your modules if you want to complaine......
http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=846
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Fred Kyong
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Posted - 2011.01.22 05:23:00 -
[786]
So far all works for me right now, I think.
We still have the Golden Retriever and the reddish tomato Mackinaw
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Froosh
Gallente Consolidated Capsuleers Protectorate
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Posted - 2011.01.22 06:04:00 -
[787]
Awesome update is awesome.
i luv it
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Black Tigeer
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Posted - 2011.01.22 06:12:00 -
[788]
Originally by: Linus Scorpio
Originally by: Airyn Farscape I would like to even be able to create my character. I have been waiting on a black screen for 20 minutes. I have a decent graphics card and could play the game just fine, but won't load the Creator. Same for my husband who has an Nvidia 9800, so yeah. Definitely fail :(
Same here, nothing but a black screen
Mine reboots the PC when loading the Character Creator, so I guess what you see here is as good as it gets. |
Canby
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Posted - 2011.01.22 07:47:00 -
[789]
Edited by: Canby on 22/01/2011 07:49:05 Well, what has incursion done for me? Beyond the obvious breakage, I mean.
So far, a character gen that is... less than wonderful. Not nearly enough options for male or female toons. Facial expressions are missing. You can't make portrait of a char the smiles without them appearing brain dead. Clothing options suck slough water, and no ability to start from scratch in the redo. Not to mention that, after redoing several Toon's portraits about 15 hours ago, they still haven't propagated through the system to show up in the game screens.
PI is a major disaster. At first blush, it's no longer a viable way to try and make ISK. It's possible that we just don't know how to make it work, because there's no info on how the new structures work, but I have a character that just rebuilt a PI site on a planet and went from 11 extractors to a max of 3 of the new extractor controllers. I have trouble seeing that as a benefit.
Shields are nerfed, and I have a Domi driver that could tank 8 battleships and an equal number of cruisers last week, and now must run when 4 BSs appear.
I'm not sure if I should complain, or thank CCP. Ya, I have four accounts that are utterly useless unless I retrain them to be scammers or pirates, which I will not do. Or I can lose 4 accounts, and save a not inconsiderable amount of real life cash.
Impressed? Not so much.
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Massive Scordite
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Posted - 2011.01.22 07:56:00 -
[790]
Just spent 2 hours making space on my computer for the new EVE up date and I still can not access the stupid new Character Creator!
What the hell was CCP thinking!?!?!?!
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Egypt Seven
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Posted - 2011.01.22 08:00:00 -
[791]
I just spent 2 hours making space on my computer for the new EVE up date and I still can not access the stupid new Character Creator!
What the hell was CCP thinking!?!?!?!
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2011.01.22 08:05:00 -
[792]
CCP, the Incursion 1.1.1 patch has not removed the race-lock on art assets.
This is completely unacceptable. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Paurek
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Posted - 2011.01.22 08:19:00 -
[793]
Originally by: Chad Lognion The recustomization for the Character Creator pictures go back to the first one I did 3 days ago, it shows one of my toon's New portrait at the Character Select screen but his picture has distortions in it like idk hard to explain but it pretty much ruins the portrait :(.. But log in and BAM its the old one ... Help PLease
I am having the same problem |
Dominic Whiplash
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Posted - 2011.01.22 08:29:00 -
[794]
Originally by: Paurek
Originally by: Chad Lognion The recustomization for the Character Creator pictures go back to the first one I did 3 days ago, it shows one of my toon's New portrait at the Character Select screen but his picture has distortions in it like idk hard to explain but it pretty much ruins the portrait :(.. But log in and BAM its the old one ... Help PLease
I am having the same problem
Me as well
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Dominic Whiplash
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Posted - 2011.01.22 08:31:00 -
[795]
Edited by: Dominic Whiplash on 22/01/2011 08:33:52 But it shows the new one here....
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Mecinia Lua
Galactic Express The Spire Collective
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Posted - 2011.01.22 08:32:00 -
[796]
Originally by: Care Less 1/ - Neutral colour tags broken 2/ - Drone controls broken, not opening even after launching drones manually from open drone bay and returning. 3/ - Horrible sunlight full screen flashes 4/ - Military index values changed/broken/bugged. 5/ - Anomalies not despawning after completion. (havens + sanctums)
To add to number 5 the following also do not despawn: survellance, herd, menagerie, horde
Because of lack of despawning the rate of respawning is slowed.
Number 4 needs serious work as well it and 5 are needed badly....more so than character fixes....oh and 1 too....
Thoughts expressed are mine and mine alone. They do not necessarily reflect my alliances thoughts.
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Baltze
Amarr FinFleet IT Alliance
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Posted - 2011.01.22 09:20:00 -
[797]
Things Id like to be fixed/changed. They used to work but dont now.
Targeting with ctrl pressed down. Pressing ctrl down should not do anything before you click something you want to target from overview or space. Keeping ctrl down and clicking another object should target that too.
Freezing overview with ctrl pressed down. Does not happen. Was a very welcome feature when it was introduced.
"Warping to x" message missing when manually warping.
Default focus switched back to change price when modifying a buy or sell order.
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Wendy Staple
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Posted - 2011.01.22 10:14:00 -
[798]
Originally by: Care Less 1/ - Neutral colour tags broken 2/ - Drone controls broken, not opening even after launching drones manually from open drone bay and returning. 3/ - Horrible sunlight full screen flashes 4/ - Military index values changed/broken/bugged. 5/ - Anomalies not despawning after completion. (havens + sanctums)
I would point that problem with filtering in Overview (States section "Pilot has neutral standing") is terrible issue. I do have setup navigation filter where I can see enemies/stations/gates. That allow me to be able use my travel thru secure systems. Now that navigation panel is full of ships completely irelevant to me.
Fix it fast!
I would add two another anoying "features" of new patch:
6/ - when I dock I have always open Ships (I have ships and items integrated into station interface), before patch it used to remember what I had selected. 7/ - is impossible to drop into trade window partial amount of items via shift-drop. Now I must 1st shift-drop partial amount into hangar and then to trade window.
Question to CCP. Why patch always broke things what were perfectly ok before?
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ZaBob
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Posted - 2011.01.22 11:21:00 -
[799]
Let me add my voice to the chorus of complaints about the character creator.
There's a lot to like about it. I wish it's performance weren't crap. Like an earlier poster, I did have the impression it was much better on SiSi.
But here's my real gripe: It takes So......Friggin......Long to set up your portrait, and then when you run out of time, you're stuck with it. This must makes no sense whatsoever!
I understand the need to at least partially lock in a character -- though I had hoped those four slots would be available as alternatives, for different occasions.
But this fix of giving us a redo (and only those of us who did it early) is wrong-headed. Don't rush us! Give us some time with our character, time to play around with it a bit, maybe compare a bit, before we commit. Everybody! I'm not going to redo it until you change it so I don't have to do it in one session, so I have the time to do it right.
Because, basically, I got it as good as I could get it in one session.
And really -- why not lock in only the basic features? You went to all this trouble, and put out all this hype, about your great new character editor, that we will only see a handful of times.
The choices were so incredibly limited, it was a major disappointment compared to the ability to sculpt. Of course, most of the time I couldn't get the sculpting to work, either, probably due to the lousy performance not giving me any feedback. Probably 2/3 of the place I tried to sculpt, I couldn't see the difference before/after my attempt. The difference may have been there, but if it shows up a few seconds later, it can be hard to observe that it had anything to do with your current sculpting attempt!
And while I don't have the latest-and-greatest hardware, it's not crap either. This was a top-of-the-line gaming laptop 4 years ago.
I suspect the performance would have been just fine if you didn't insist on having my character move around like he had ants in his pants while I was trying to sculpt him. Let him hold still, so you only have to draw what I'm actually changing. Not only will it perform better -- the UI will be better!
As it is, while the extreme limitation of choices makes people look kind of alike, there's no way I could make use of more choices right now. It takes so long to evaluate each choice, that I gave up on exploring the choices of some of the options, because I was running out of time.
Also, the presentation of the choices was so small and context free, and required re-rendering the character to see each alternative -- it wasted huge amounts of time. Bring up a gallery! Make them bigger! A single 1-D list where you really can only see one item, with just a hint of the others, at such low resolution, simply would not scale to a reasonable selection.
The clothing in the 1-D list never matched what it actually looked like. Details like embroidery was basically invisible -- even the colors were wrong, as if the catalog photography were done by an amateur with no lighting experience.
And I never did figure out what the difference was between the two (only two!) different lips.
There's a lot I liked about it. But overall, for each character I've done so far on TQ, it has been an incredibly frustrating experience.
By the way -- I really think it should have been a design requirement, that we should be able to come close to recreating our existing character. The concept appears to not even have crossed anyone's mind; it would appear to be flat-out impossible to even come up with a resemblance. Or at least, that's my impression, but maybe if it didn't waste so much time I'd have found a way.
I didn't like any of the lighting options given.
But here's the takeaway -- NONE of these complaints would have near the impact if you didn't pressure us to achieve perfection in one sitting! Let us change our portraits!
PS: I wouldn't care so much if there weren't actually aspects I like!
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2011.01.22 11:32:00 -
[800]
OK ... just re-created this character's appearance ... and noted a few things ... I'm sure I'll note more later but only really want to comment on the things I'm sure about at this stage.
That being - the limited fashion plate we have to pick from. In my original characters appearance - I had more to chose from and ... it was culturally significant. Right now ... I'm pretty much dressed up like any punk kid you might see at the mall - not some guy from an alien culture a good bit of time in the future, on the far side of a collapsed worm hole.
I had to chose between a jacket and a vest, with various color combination's and two types of foot wear, Boots with wrap around buckles and sneakers.
The only difference in my wardrobe seems to have been whether it was winter or summer at the mall.
*shrug*
I've yet to work on any of my other characters so we'll have to see how things go but ... so far ... it looks like Walking In Stations is going to be like Going To The Mall in any Industrialized Nation on Earth today rather than a number of distinctly alien cultures - which you had in the old portraits.
Yes, the portrait looks much more realistic - though it is still obviously a CGI.
Also ... the back ground seemed much more limited and less interesting than the old ones.
So ... over all ... from what I've seen so far ... a tremendous amount of work ... which may pay off later when (and if) WIS is finally released ... has been a step back. Despite the fact that it was less photo realistic, I liked my old portrait better than the one I have now.
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ZaBob
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Posted - 2011.01.22 11:44:00 -
[801]
Now, about the PI update!
Mostly, I like this a lot. Some aspects more than others, but it's a lot quicker when I'm in a rush, to get my planets going again.
But there's a few things...
I'd like to be able to move command centers. Now that planets really change a lot over rather short time-spans (too short, IMHO!) I find that I've had to move my installations to the other side of half of my planets. That's OK, I'm not really using the command centers. BUT!
Now, when I bring up my planets, I have to hunt around to even FIND my installation. The useless command-center comes up nicely centered on my screen!
Or, instead of moving the command center, remember the last position and bring it up again.
Also, the new system pretty much nerfs Command Center Upgrades level V, when in losec on high-output planets, producing P1 goods. I got to Level V the next day. I was already at 10 extractor heads at level IV. Adding an additional ECU, at the high powergrid cost of the ECU, means I don't have enough powergrid left over for the corresponding processors. Basically, level V doesn't really give me more output on my extraction planets, at least not in proportion.
I was disappointed that while it addresses the placement issues for extractors, it is still an incredible pain to tightly position processors and other units (including the ECU). If they're overlap a bit, instead if turning red and giving an error -- have them collide, or have them snap into an in-contact position, or even better -- let us drag them around until we submit the change.
But: Being able to set programs of a length that actually makes sense for my schedule: HUGE WIN! THANK YOU!
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Mikal Morataya
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Posted - 2011.01.22 13:24:00 -
[802]
Originally by: MGA anyone else having problems with desktop-brightness after eve has been started?
everything works fine in the game, just the brightness on the desktop is messed up!
something in the game seems to mess up the graphics-settings! i¦d love to get a fast statement on this issue!
Yeh, its done the same to my desktop brigtness, when the latest eve is running I get a dimmed desktop until I quit eve. :(
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Divenia
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.01.22 13:32:00 -
[803]
Clearly the Character Creator in some respect feels unfinished (eg. hair, skin color & clothing choices), but overall CCP has given people a much improved tool with which to exercise their creativity. And what a creative bunch you've proven to be.
My real concern is with the coming incursions and their impact on the game. It may be that it will no longer be viable for some us to continue our usual and preferred activities. I suspect that the issues with the Character Creator will soon take a back seat.
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Perkles
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.01.22 14:04:00 -
[804]
Originally by: StarLord I can't believe how this works like it does, its not easy. I had a old man with the top of his head bald and white hair that stuck up on the sides. Now I can't seen to find a mad scientist look. Where's the white lab coats? I'd like to ask why ccp didn't let us have a choice to start with our original char look and change from there or a choice to create an new face. No now we have to change our appearance so we all look like barbie dolls. Who designed this someone who plays dress up? Their all to perfect.
Right, same to me. My old avatar My new avatar Can't get a avatar like the old one. Bad...
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G0rF
Gallente The Causality Electus Matari
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Posted - 2011.01.22 14:09:00 -
[805]
Edited by: G0rF on 22/01/2011 14:09:25
Originally by: Nexus Aurelia Let us change our portrait to one of the 4 upon login, you have such a good character creator but I can't switch between the presets I made.
Given that all my accounts got a do-over except my main (who I did first and am least happy with) I could go for this as an option instead.
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PolarKat
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Posted - 2011.01.22 16:33:00 -
[806]
Character Creator does seemed rushed. I was looking forward to the version I saw on YOUTUBE was way more detailed than what we were given. Please tell me that CCP is not going the way of Blizzard and WoW....
I HAVE NO PLACE TO GOOOOO!!!
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Thrians
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Posted - 2011.01.22 17:37:00 -
[807]
Having all kinds of graphics problems. Rotating POS control tower, PI installations occasionally look like large white squares, wierd shadows. Also whenever I leave the game my screen becomes covered in mult shades of red and yellow. Any plans to fix this?
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Peter Abbot
Gallente Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2011.01.22 17:44:00 -
[808]
I don't have any of the complaints I've read about the character creator. I've created a decent portrait for my character; one that I'd be happy with for the rest of my time on EVE. Three times.
Every time I go to save, the EVE client crashes to the desktop. When I log in again, no new portrait. The rest of EVE works just fine on my PC. I've never had any problems. Until now.
Great new tool, but (at least for me) it just doesn't work.
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Ferin Ashenfall
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Posted - 2011.01.22 17:54:00 -
[809]
Originally by: Nai Weil I've found a way round the "preview isn't clear enough" problem which some of us have had before clicking "save". When you save the four previews (or just one), the actual picture is saved to your cache under the "pictures/portraits" folder. You can then alt/tab out and take a good long look at the picture you took and see if it's what you want. It's very clear, and leaves no room for error too!
Now I just need one chance to redo my portrait!! *PussinbootsEYES*
could you kindly direct us to the location of this cache? I've been trying to find it for the past half hour
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2011.01.22 18:10:00 -
[810]
Edited by: Toshiro GreyHawk on 22/01/2011 18:13:03
Yeah ... just one more thought on this ...
It's like ...
1) I was really looking forward to the Incursions thing as it sounded like fun. Then ... I find out that besides fighting uber rats ... we were going to get our ships gimped too ... which is a bunch of crap ... and I became unhappy about that ... unhappy enough that I really don't plan on participating.
2) I was really looking forward to redoing some of my characters as ... there were problems with the old creation process and ... I wanted to make some things better. Then ... I'm not so happy with my first experience with the process - or the results. This is coupled with the fact that - I've got ... more than one account ... most of which have more than one character ... so ... I'm going to have a lot of work to do here ... just to get back to where I was ... with results which I may not be any more pleased with than what I had. I'm certainly less pleased with the one I've got now - but - a redo wouldn't help. The tools just aren't there to make me any happier than with what I've got now, so I'm just stuck with it.
3) I was really looking forward to an improved PI interface ... but now ... it's looking like it's not just the interface that has changed ... but I'm going to have to redo all my colonies ... which ... given the nature of that process ... I had spent a good bit of time setting them up and calculating just how much production I could get out of each one. Now ... it looks like I may not be able to get the same amount of production out of the same number of installations ... So ... if that turns out to be the case ... I've got yet another bunch of work to redo - all for results I may well be less happy with than what I already had.
See a pattern here?
High expectations - resulting only in disillusionment and ... a lot of damn work just to get back to something I may well be less happy with than what I had before.
Not the feeling I'd been hoping to have right now about this update ...
Oh yeah ... and then the bookmarks ... God Damn It ... not being able to put a bookmark in someone elses jet can - is going to be a ****ing pain in the ass I'm going to have to live with every ****ing time I go mining. Son of a *****. Yeah ... it's a trivial little thing - but it's a trivial little thing I'm going to have to ****ing put up with constantly - forever - unless you ****ing ass holes put it back the way it was. All the other stuff ... well I'm sure you tried hard to make it better and just screwed it up - but HERE - you're going to make my life ... just a little bit harder - CONSTANTLY. We put bookmarks in jet cans THROUGHOUT the time we're mining. We're ALWAYS DOING IT. Now - if the guy who created the jet can forgets to put his bookmark in there so the other guy can empty it - he can't just put one in there himself. He has to create his own damn jet can and them move things into IT. God Damn It ... I don't want to have to **** with "Who can put the bookmark in the jet can ..." all ****ing day - every ****ing day - from now until for-****ing-ever - cause you ass holes aren't ever going to fix something this trivial. And - why the God Damn Hell do you do something so ****ing useless in the first place? Jesus H. Christ ...
Oh ... and for anyone thinking this is trivial ... have someone sit behind you and flick your ear ... constantly ... all day ... every day ... for ****ing ever ... THEN come tell me how trivial it is.
A minor irritant you have to constantly deal with - is not a minor irritant.
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Kirana
Minmatar Tash-Murkon Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.01.22 18:40:00 -
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For the past week I have been going back and forth with GM Cloudy on a major post 1.1.0 problem with my toon, Kirana.
My skill tree, and apparently the accompanying training logs, have been corrupted somehow. The primary example being that pre-1.1.0 I had used my Learning skill credit to train up Amarr carriers, support skills, and various other skills. Prior to that I was not a cap pilot.
Post-1.1.0 my Amarr carrier skills have been replaced with Caldari carrier and dread skills. But I have none of the supporting skills for the dread, have never owned a caldari dread or carrier, and the GM is telling me that according to training logs I trained them both at the beginning of 2010, a year ago!
I am not sure what of my other skills are affected. It looks like my skills are mostly intact but there are a few things trained to 5 that I know I didn't train to 5 and others at 1 and 2 that I know were higher. The Caldari cap skills I have are totally out of sync with the rest of the character, otherwise I might just drop the issue. But as it stands it will take me months to get back to a usable character in cap terms.
I have suggested to the GM that he look in old backups. The skill logs on the client side only go back to Dec 19th, which seems odd. And since all the Learning skill credit training I have was done on the 16th it's not even showing up in my logs.
If this can't be remedied then I really can't justify continuing to pay to play patch roulette with toons I have years and hundreds of dollars invested in. And the only thing more frightening than this happening is the thought that there are no other logs to look at besides live production logs. Being a server engineer by trade, I know logs can get corrupted or lost. So if there aren't pre-1.1.0 backups, then shame on you, CCP.
Please help restore my faith in Eve and help me fix my main. ____
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Felstaff Celium
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Posted - 2011.01.22 18:58:00 -
[812]
Along with several other people, I am having issues with the fact that the character portrait I created (originally AND after the redo) both had NO hood when created, but when I log in my character profile information has me in a hood. I even took screen shots showing the toon without it at the character select screen and then consequently afterwards when I logged in. Minor issue, but I REALLY don't like the hood look!
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El'Niaga
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.01.22 19:04:00 -
[813]
Originally by: Kirana For the past week I have been going back and forth with GM Cloudy on a major post 1.1.0 problem with my toon, Kirana.
My skill tree, and apparently the accompanying training logs, have been corrupted somehow. The primary example being that pre-1.1.0 I had used my Learning skill credit to train up Amarr carriers, support skills, and various other skills. Prior to that I was not a cap pilot.
Post-1.1.0 my Amarr carrier skills have been replaced with Caldari carrier and dread skills. But I have none of the supporting skills for the dread, have never owned a caldari dread or carrier, and the GM is telling me that according to training logs I trained them both at the beginning of 2010, a year ago!
I am not sure what of my other skills are affected. It looks like my skills are mostly intact but there are a few things trained to 5 that I know I didn't train to 5 and others at 1 and 2 that I know were higher. The Caldari cap skills I have are totally out of sync with the rest of the character, otherwise I might just drop the issue. But as it stands it will take me months to get back to a usable character in cap terms.
I have suggested to the GM that he look in old backups. The skill logs on the client side only go back to Dec 19th, which seems odd. And since all the Learning skill credit training I have was done on the 16th it's not even showing up in my logs.
If this can't be remedied then I really can't justify continuing to pay to play patch roulette with toons I have years and hundreds of dollars invested in. And the only thing more frightening than this happening is the thought that there are no other logs to look at besides live production logs. Being a server engineer by trade, I know logs can get corrupted or lost. So if there aren't pre-1.1.0 backups, then shame on you, CCP.
Please help restore my faith in Eve and help me fix my main.
Do you have any kills with the carrier ? maybe if you could find a kb with it on it you can prove you had the skills.
Makes me worried about me.....I've not checked all my toons well.
I"m almost to the point we need to do the first rollback since 2004.
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Centri Sixx
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Posted - 2011.01.22 19:05:00 -
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Edited by: Centri Sixx on 22/01/2011 19:06:16 One little change which annoyed me is that you can no longer reprocess unpackaged items: it gives a message saying it needs to be in a stack of one or more items.
Character creator-eh. If you look at the forums, you see a lot of lookalikes, and the ones that look good aren't looking good because of the character, but because they are effectively posed and lighted.
Dock button placement is annoying.
Other than that, there really isn't much positive about the update. You delayed most of the key features.
What worries me is that you seem to be in a direction where you are playing "catch-up" with player resource generation. A lot of these changes and features seem to be on the order of reducing output or forcing more ships to be destroyed. Reading about the Incursion level of difficulty seems to support this. It seems like you are afraid to tackle the root (botting and nullsecers being carebears through hi-sec production) and are just going to make the game more annoying.
Edit: and also, CC seems to be weird. I logged in to see my first try character picture: relogging fixed it. I notice on the forums too, and in this post my pre-CC picture is displayed.
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Kirana
Minmatar Tash-Murkon Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.01.22 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: El'Niaga Do you have any kills with the carrier ? maybe if you could find a kb with it on it you can prove you had the skills.
Makes me worried about me.....I've not checked all my toons well.
I"m almost to the point we need to do the first rollback since 2004.
Not sure what you mean "skills with the carrier". I have high drone and fighter skills because I was an Amarr carrier pilot, so yah I guess.
I am trying to concentrate first on getting someone to look at something other than live production logs and second on the fact that for the current skill set to be accurate it would mean that I trained caldari dreads a year ago but didn't bother to buy one or train up weapon skills to fit weapons on it and caldari carriers yet never bought a carrier.
I had just barely trained the Amarr carrier skills last month when we got the learning credit. At the same time I trained one alt into Amarr dreads and another alt into a Rorqual. They are both fine. But that did just give me an idea. Since I used skill credit to train the skills I am missing there should be some discrepancy in the logs if it wasn't used to train the new, incorrect, skills. ____
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El'Niaga
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.01.22 19:28:00 -
[816]
Originally by: Kirana
Originally by: El'Niaga Do you have any kills with the carrier ? maybe if you could find a kb with it on it you can prove you had the skills.
Makes me worried about me.....I've not checked all my toons well.
I"m almost to the point we need to do the first rollback since 2004.
Not sure what you mean "skills with the carrier". I have high drone and fighter skills because I was an Amarr carrier pilot, so yah I guess.
I am trying to concentrate first on getting someone to look at something other than live production logs and second on the fact that for the current skill set to be accurate it would mean that I trained caldari dreads a year ago but didn't bother to buy one or train up weapon skills to fit weapons on it and caldari carriers yet never bought a carrier.
I had just barely trained the Amarr carrier skills last month when we got the learning credit. At the same time I trained one alt into Amarr dreads and another alt into a Rorqual. They are both fine. But that did just give me an idea. Since I used skill credit to train the skills I am missing there should be some discrepancy in the logs if it wasn't used to train the new, incorrect, skills.
Was mostly just meaning the Amarr carrier skill, since the others like jump skills would be common between the two. I guess since you got it just recently though probably no kill records.
Might try escalating it.
Do you have Caldari Battleship Level 5 if its not 5 but Amarr is might use that in your argument.
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Kirana
Minmatar Tash-Murkon Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.01.22 19:47:00 -
[817]
Originally by: El'Niaga
Might try escalating it.
Do you have Caldari Battleship Level 5 if its not 5 but Amarr is might use that in your argument.
Yah I am trying to get the GM to escalate it but I am not sure that he is taking me seriously.
As for skills, I am also a Nightmare pilot so I had both Caldari and Amarr BS skills. LOL ____
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Kirana
Minmatar Tash-Murkon Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.01.22 21:01:00 -
[818]
Originally by: Kirana
Originally by: El'Niaga
Might try escalating it.
Do you have Caldari Battleship Level 5 if its not 5 but Amarr is might use that in your argument.
Yah I am trying to get the GM to escalate it but I am not sure that he is taking me seriously.
As for skills, I am also a Nightmare pilot so I had both Caldari and Amarr BS skills. LOL
I was able to get the issue escalated and put together the closest things to proof I have available. It's not much but I have eve-mail from Dec 23rd where I ordered an Archon to be built for me, as well as the tail end of my using up the learning skill credits being applied on the 19th of Dec. But unfortunately I don't have skill history prior to Dec. 19th. Two more days of skill history would have shown the training of Amarr carriers. LOL ____
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Gergely Bornemissza
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Posted - 2011.01.22 21:41:00 -
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Just an observation: It seems nearly everyone who hates the character creator and their portrait outcome actually have some pretty badass portraits. I've only seen one or two that look like a trainwreck. Perhaps it's just something to get used to?
As far as a lack of variety... that's true, but I'm not sure it matters a whole lot considering you're only seeing at most a bust of your character, if not just the face, which is definitely way more customizable. It's not like WOW, or Conan, or LoTRO, or something like that where you are constantly looking at your toon. It's a small picture. Later, with Incarna, then variety will really start to matter....
I'd like to see more variety, but as a fairly new player to EVE (just a few weeks before the update) I think the new portraits look infinitely better. Cartoony portraits didn't fit the insanely in-depth feeling the game gave me. Just my $.02.
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Kirana
Minmatar Tash-Murkon Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.01.22 21:44:00 -
[820]
Originally by: Gergely Bornemissza Just an observation: It seems nearly everyone who hates the character creator and their portrait outcome actually have some pretty badass portraits. I've only seen one or two that look like a trainwreck. Perhaps it's just something to get used to?
As far as a lack of variety... that's true, but I'm not sure it matters a whole lot considering you're only seeing at most a bust of your character, if not just the face, which is definitely way more customizable. It's not like WOW, or Conan, or LoTRO, or something like that where you are constantly looking at your toon. It's a small picture. Later, with Incarna, then variety will really start to matter....
I'd like to see more variety, but as a fairly new player to EVE (just a few weeks before the update) I think the new portraits look infinitely better. Cartoony portraits didn't fit the insanely in-depth feeling the game gave me. Just my $.02.
My only complaint about the CC is the thumbnails are a bit small. It's kind of hard to see in detail what your toon will look like. But every toon I have built through CC so far looks bad ass I think. :)
I think that complaining is part of Eve. lol ____
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Sarina Berghil
Minmatar New Zion Judge Advocate Multiple Sargasm
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Posted - 2011.01.22 22:19:00 -
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A bit of small feedback on the new window for extracting in PI.
The window is very pretty and very geeky in a way that is fitting for Eve. I feel like a very important space mining foreman when I mess with it. I think future expansions of PI could do well to be inspired by that window.
One little annoyance though. Setting the extraction head size (or in layman's terms the time of the extraction program) is rather inconvenient. It's hard to put the slider in an accurate position, and fine tuning with the arrow buttons takes a lot of time due to the delay when redrawing the graph.
Maybe it's possible to limit the amount of redrawing done when messing with that slider.
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Chia Mulholland
Merch Industrial
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Posted - 2011.01.22 23:58:00 -
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Originally by: Kirana Not sure what you mean "skills with the carrier". I have high drone and fighter skills because I was an Amarr carrier pilot, so yah I guess.
He wrote 'kills'. Not 'skills'. If you have a kill mail where you are flying an Amarr carrier, you have proven that you flew one once.
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Petrik L
Gallente Imperium Industries
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Posted - 2011.01.23 01:35:00 -
[823]
Quote: Some players may experience their desktop and screen stay dark after alt tabbing out of the EVE client. If you are experiencing this please run EVE as administrator and this should correct this issue.
I did give it a try.... and admin rights does not helped... More weird thing, that I usually run 2 chars, and the problem does affect only the 1st started account! To switch to the secondary running client, and do alt+tab out of the games does revert the darkness! Not only alt+tab are affected, but when I do hit the windows key the darkness are there...
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Kirana
Minmatar Tash-Murkon Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.01.23 01:41:00 -
[824]
Edited by: Kirana on 23/01/2011 01:45:12
Originally by: Chia Mulholland
Originally by: Kirana Not sure what you mean "skills with the carrier". I have high drone and fighter skills because I was an Amarr carrier pilot, so yah I guess.
He wrote 'kills'. Not 'skills'. If you have a kill mail where you are flying an Amarr carrier, you have proven that you flew one once.
Duh, I feel like an idiot. I see that now. lol
No kills. I don't even own a carrier yet. I just trained Amarr carrier after the Learning Skill credit last month. Prior to that I had no cap skills at all. But that did lead me to something else... It's not much but I do still have sent mail of me ordering an Archon from a cap builder. Luckily I sent it from that account prior to patch 1.1.0.
We'll see what happens but I sincerely hope they find something so they can acknowledge the problem and maybe track down the cause. Otherwise it's likely to happen again. It has been escalated to a Sr. GM at this point. If they keep logs pre-build release, which they would be derp not to, then all they need to do is view pre-1.1.0 skill logs and they will see it.
I could see myself making a mistake like mixing up cap skills between toons in training but not training two wrong racial cap skills, that there would be no record of any of my toons ever possessing. Two frickin' days more in the skill logs on my side and it would show up there.
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Dalton Vanadis
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Posted - 2011.01.23 02:44:00 -
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Originally by: Kirana
I think that complaining is part of Eve. lol
That pretty much sums it up. I look at it like this, if all we have to reaallly complain about is a CC for now, life's pretty good. It'll matter more with Incarna, depending on how big they make Incarna, but for now, POS' aren't going skynet, drakes didn't start spontaneously exploding, relatively few people are getting BSOD's.
Plus this particular thread is designated for complaining about the patch :) And so hopefully something good will come of the complaining and there will be less complaining in the future. At least CCP will know what is ****ing players off and will be able to fix it instead of just guessing.
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Shenaniganism
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Posted - 2011.01.23 03:55:00 -
[826]
Originally by: Zaerui
Originally by: Misbehaviour And speaking of epic fail...PI is biggest fail change i think i have ever seen in a game this far. I was able to extract all mineral types available on a planet before without having to change my setup for weeks, now that is impossible without a complete reconfig at the end of cycles/programs. PI changes mean all planets will need to be rebuilt and, major changes will be required at regular (daily) intervals in order to gather multiple resource types on same planet. The only thumbs up is the upgrade option to main facility. The rest of the PI changes are hugely problematic and will continue to be on a daily basis. I honestly find it hard to believe these changes are made by people who actually use PI at all. Epic fail! epic fail, epic fail....can i say it enough...i dont think so
I'd have to second this comment. I went from having the ability to extract all resource types from a planet (at a reduced yield) to only being able to extract 2-3 types due to the power requirements of the extractor control units and my existing factory structure. This is a pretty easy problem to fix - just reduce the control unit power cost and increase the head cost; you can either have a lot of something or a little of many things. The reduction in clickfest is nice, but my PI production chain is now crippled. I'll work it out with my corpies to share the production burden around if CCP doesn't address this problem, but I feel for the solo players out there; it's now extremely difficult for a solo player to realistically make PI-material goods (was pretty difficult before, but now it's nearly impossible).
I Second this second, pretty much everything I was unhappy about is contained within.
I like some of the changes bat as far forward as this expansion has gone it's taken as many steps back. |
El'Niaga
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.01.23 04:45:00 -
[827]
Originally by: Kirana
Originally by: Kirana
Originally by: El'Niaga
Might try escalating it.
Do you have Caldari Battleship Level 5 if its not 5 but Amarr is might use that in your argument.
Yah I am trying to get the GM to escalate it but I am not sure that he is taking me seriously.
As for skills, I am also a Nightmare pilot so I had both Caldari and Amarr BS skills. LOL
I was able to get the issue escalated and put together the closest things to proof I have available. It's not much but I have eve-mail from Dec 23rd where I ordered an Archon to be built for me, as well as the tail end of my using up the learning skill credits being applied on the 19th of Dec. But unfortunately I don't have skill history prior to Dec. 19th. Two more days of skill history would have shown the training of Amarr carriers. LOL
Hopefully it'll be enough :) |
Ranka Mei
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.23 10:21:00 -
[828]
Originally by: Kirana
I don't even own a carrier yet. I just trained Amarr carrier after the Learning Skill credit last month. Prior to that I had no cap skills at all. But that did lead me to something else... It's not much but I do still have sent mail of me ordering an Archon from a cap builder. Luckily I sent it from that account prior to patch 1.1.0.
We'll see what happens but I sincerely hope they find something so they can acknowledge the problem and maybe track down the cause. Otherwise it's likely to happen again. It has been escalated to a Sr. GM at this point. If they keep logs pre-build release, which they would be derp not to, then all they need to do is view pre-1.1.0 skill logs and they will see it.
I could see myself making a mistake like mixing up cap skills between toons in training but not training two wrong racial cap skills, that there would be no record of any of my toons ever possessing. Two frickin' days more in the skill logs on my side and it would show up there.
I don't have much to offer in the way of advice. You have my sympathies, though. And I'm going to keep a close eye on this case, as I realize all too well that this could happen to any of us. Losing SP, or getting your skill sheet messed up, is a major thing. And I must say I'm a little surprised (and more than a little worried) that CCP apparently has so litlle evidence archieved as to where one's skills are at a given point.
So, I hope you'll get it resolved soon; and I'll be rooting for ya. Please, do let us know how it ends. |
Valhallas
New Eden Robotics
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Posted - 2011.01.23 11:54:00 -
[829]
Edited by: Valhallas on 23/01/2011 11:56:08 From the patch notes-
Meta level sorting now counts no meta level as lower than 1. Also changed so that 0 meta level shows as empty.
Whats this all about?
I can't find any part of the UI where you can sort items by meta level, it's something that would be of great use to me.
Edit -
Found it, they must be talking about the compare tool, thats the only place I can see where this can be done |
Blue Harrier
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.01.23 13:14:00 -
[830]
Originally by: Kirana Snip; Lots of stuff about your skills
Please help restore my faith in Eve and help me fix my main.
Just a long shot but have you tried logging in to SiSi and see if your skills are correct on there (depending on when the last mirror was taken). |
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Kirana
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Posted - 2011.01.23 14:13:00 -
[831]
Originally by: Ranka Mei
I don't have much to offer in the way of advice. You have my sympathies, though. And I'm going to keep a close eye on this case, as I realize all too well that this could happen to any of us. Losing SP, or getting your skill sheet messed up, is a major thing. And I must say I'm a little surprised (and more than a little worried) that CCP apparently has so litlle evidence archieved as to where one's skills are at a given point.
So, I hope you'll get it resolved soon; and I'll be rooting for ya. Please, do let us know how it ends.
Yah my thoughts as well. If this slips through the cracks then yikes... I am hoping I just got a GM on a bad day or a "new guy". And I think they generally don't take people too seriously if it's an isolated event, which this seems to be. I don't know that I would have believed me either. In nearly 8 years this is the first major glitch I have had in Eve.
Will keep you posted. |
Kirana
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Posted - 2011.01.23 14:17:00 -
[832]
Originally by: Blue Harrier
Just a long shot but have you tried logging in to SiSi and see if your skills are correct on there (depending on when the last mirror was taken).
Not a bad idea. Probably a better idea before they deployed 1.1.1 but I'll check none the less. It took the GM a couple days just to get back to me Initially and by that time 1.1.1 was out. Prior to that I wasn't concerned because I thought the problem would be obvious to them.
I'll check it all the same. Never know. |
BeunWa
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.23 14:27:00 -
[833]
Hi CCP,
I know you want our money and all... but you cannot force me to see your ads in the pilot licence tab of the character sheet. I DON'T WANT INGAME REAL MONEY PURCHASE !!! I pay for a service, not some badly hidden ads and links to give you more money. EVE is not a free-to-play MMO so remove it.
Furthemore, we already know where to buy plex.
Thx for listening. |
Noth Kin
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Posted - 2011.01.23 14:35:00 -
[834]
I still get nothing a loading bar that goes to full and then the screen stays black when I enter the character creation screen. I then have to force quit the application. |
DonHel
Gallente New Prussia Milita STORM.
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Posted - 2011.01.23 14:39:00 -
[835]
FAIL |
Selinate
Amarr Red Water Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.01.23 14:54:00 -
[836]
I like everything, except for the new icons for scanning. Can't see the damn things sometimes, especially if my probes are out of range while I'm resizing probe scan range... |
Selmak28
Defenders of Sovereignty Sovereign Navy
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Posted - 2011.01.23 15:02:00 -
[837]
I'm still having the floating head, no-body issue. The lighting in the scene still looks to dark. Still no changes taking effect when I change an attribute on my character. Sculpting is still not working. |
Beltze Sorgin
Minmatar L V B Industries
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Posted - 2011.01.23 15:41:00 -
[838]
CCP wants feedbacks on the latest patch? Here we go!
1. PI changes are good. 2. Sansha incursions aren't out yet but I think they will be interesting. I might even have a go at one. 3. Charactor creator is garbage from what I've read. I'd like to say I've tried it but it won't load no matter what I try (updating drivers, DirectX, graphics settings, esc menu, windows mode). A GM responded to my petition 2 days ago. I replied & have heard nothing since. The way I see it CCP don't know why it doesn't work for everyone, won't admit it & aren't really bothered when a fair few people cancel their subscritions in 2 to 3 weeks time bevause they can't play. Pity because I enjoy playing. |
Beltze Sorgin
Minmatar L V B Industries
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Posted - 2011.01.23 15:45:00 -
[839]
Originally by: Selmak28 I'm still having the floating head, no-body issue. The lighting in the scene still looks to dark. Still no changes taking effect when I change an attribute on my character. Sculpting is still not working.
Selmark the thing is fracked for some people & CCP probably aren't bothered about it. |
Lady Cazana
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Posted - 2011.01.23 15:56:00 -
[840]
your game is going to ****, your developers are smoking crack. |
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GiovAnton
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.23 17:04:00 -
[841]
Edited by: GiovAnton on 23/01/2011 17:08:47 Mac user here, after a couple of patching(s), character creator is running smooth, game is running smooth. I think a lot of players don't realize the colossal effort that goes into something like updating and maintaining an online game.
Thumbs up CCP, you shall get no hate from me! |
Artienne
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Posted - 2011.01.23 17:57:00 -
[842]
not sure if this was already mentioned, but I am not able to get second client running on secondary monitory maximized (it goes black, flickers, and increases in size o.0 by pixel or few with every new flick). |
Gergely Bornemissza
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Posted - 2011.01.23 18:57:00 -
[843]
Originally by: Kirana
My only complaint about the CC is the thumbnails are a bit small. It's kind of hard to see in detail what your toon will look like. But every toon I have built through CC so far looks bad ass I think. :)
Yeah, and I really like the idea of being able to pick one of the four portraits at login, too. Would be a small, simple, but effective way to mix things up.
Quote: I think that complaining is part of Eve. lol
lol, touche! Criticism is good, too. I just thought some of the doom and gloom posts were a bit over the top. :D |
Fanie Lipshitz
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Posted - 2011.01.23 20:35:00 -
[844]
Make downloads smaller please.
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Kirana
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Posted - 2011.01.23 20:39:00 -
[845]
Originally by: Gergely Bornemissza
Yeah, and I really like the idea of being able to pick one of the four portraits at login, too. Would be a small, simple, but effective way to mix things up.
I don't know that would work well. People would constantly be changing them faster than the changes could replicate. Hell some people would do it with the intent of causing problems. Griefers gonna grief.
Then again it seems like they changed the way portraits work entirely. I noticed after my redesign of two toons the portraits updated even on the forum within a couple hours. ________________
ôBy any accepted standard, I have had more than nine lives. I counted them up once and there were 13 times I almost and maybe should have diedö
Hunter S. Thompson |
Ranka Mei
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.23 21:58:00 -
[846]
Originally by: Kirana
Originally by: Gergely Bornemissza
Yeah, and I really like the idea of being able to pick one of the four portraits at login, too. Would be a small, simple, but effective way to mix things up.
I don't know that would work well. People would constantly be changing them faster than the changes could replicate. Hell some people would do it with the intent of causing problems. Griefers gonna grief.
Indeed. My proposal, however (shameless plug), is more realistic and fair, I think. --
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bp920091
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Posted - 2011.01.23 22:21:00 -
[847]
Im not sure whether or not CCP intended to entirely remove the usefulness of jumpfreighters in 0.0 with this patch (which they were DESIGNED for), but that is in reality what they have done with this small change. Having capital ships jump within 15KM of a cyno at a POS may sound good in theory, but it would take a jumpfreighter about 14 MINUTES just to get to a JB (12.5KM to go, 90m/s = 13.8M), and it is unable to defend itself in the process, unlike ANY other capital ship (yes, even rorquals have drone bays, JFs have NOTHING). Considering that JFs have ZERO module slots, bandwidth, or rig slots, just getting one in requires a SUBSTANTIAL support fleet (20 or so) just to make sure that the JF itself gets there without being hot dropped by an attacking fleet. You cant even speed up the process like you can with aligning freighters and webbing them to get them to instantly warp. Im not even sure what the intent of this section of patch is, if CCP wishes to remove the use of JumpBridges, then REMOVE them, dont screw the logistic ability of 0.0 alliances over in the process. For people living out in highsec, to move a lot of stuff into systems that may be cynojammed, you really need a freighter of a JF, and since freighters take FOREVER to go 1 jump, a ship that costs 4-4.5 BILLION isk should be able to do the job faster. Even before this patch, JFs had to wait 3 minutes or so BEFORE jumping through a JB because they move so slow and frankly, that is enough time to get to one, web it, and pour on DPS. Quadrupling this time makes absolutely no sense from really anyone's perspective, with the possible exception of the people who build the JFs themselves, just to increase demand. I would like to either see a reasonable response from CCP stating WHY they implemented this change or have it REMOVED, simply put.
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Kirana
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Posted - 2011.01.23 23:45:00 -
[848]
Originally by: bp920091 Im not sure whether or not CCP intended to entirely remove the usefulness of jumpfreighters in 0.0 with this patch (which they were DESIGNED for), but that is in reality what they have done with this small change. Having capital ships jump within 15KM of a cyno at a POS may sound good in theory, but it would take a jumpfreighter about 14 MINUTES just to get to a JB (12.5KM to go, 90m/s = 13.8M), and it is unable to defend itself in the process, unlike ANY other capital ship (yes, even rorquals have drone bays, JFs have NOTHING). Considering that JFs have ZERO module slots, bandwidth, or rig slots, just getting one in requires a SUBSTANTIAL support fleet (20 or so) just to make sure that the JF itself gets there without being hot dropped by an attacking fleet. You cant even speed up the process like you can with aligning freighters and webbing them to get them to instantly warp. Im not even sure what the intent of this section of patch is, if CCP wishes to remove the use of JumpBridges, then REMOVE them, dont screw the logistic ability of 0.0 alliances over in the process. For people living out in highsec, to move a lot of stuff into systems that may be cynojammed, you really need a freighter of a JF, and since freighters take FOREVER to go 1 jump, a ship that costs 4-4.5 BILLION isk should be able to do the job faster. Even before this patch, JFs had to wait 3 minutes or so BEFORE jumping through a JB because they move so slow and frankly, that is enough time to get to one, web it, and pour on DPS. Quadrupling this time makes absolutely no sense from really anyone's perspective, with the possible exception of the people who build the JFs themselves, just to increase demand. I would like to either see a reasonable response from CCP stating WHY they implemented this change or have it REMOVED, simply put.
Wow... That buh-LOWS... I am glad I don't fly Anshar anymore. I can also put off buying that Ark I was thinking of. Icky... ________________
ôBy any accepted standard, I have had more than nine lives. I counted them up once and there were 13 times I almost and maybe should have diedö
Hunter S. Thompson |
darth mine
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Posted - 2011.01.24 03:52:00 -
[849]
Please CCP: let the overview filter work for neutral standing as before. Or add a new standing "without standing".
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Quartermaster General
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Posted - 2011.01.24 05:34:00 -
[850]
My two cents!
HATE the new PI!
A simple solution to the click fest would have been to just make it were you can start all extractors (in the old PI) at an hourly rate to mine with one or two clicks. Seems simple! "Start all extractors" sub "5 hours" click...done!!
But no, now you send more time fishing for ore than mining it. Heck I didn't known ore could move around like that. Seems physically imposable!
CCP, even though I appreciate the try, go back to the old way and make it less of a click fest. Keep it simple.
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Torhal Nuke
Mystic Lion Hearts
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Posted - 2011.01.24 06:40:00 -
[851]
maybe im missing something or expecting too much from a ship thats been a gift, but anyone ever took a look at the cargo bay sizes on the Primae? Having a 1600m¦ bay for Command Centers only, which are 1000m¦ each seems pretty odd and unpractical to me -------------------- Defending the weak Protecting our home worlds Fighting for those who matter most ... ... those brave men ... ... those valiant few ... -------------------- |
Dareth Astrar
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Posted - 2011.01.24 08:28:00 -
[852]
PI depletion is too severe, cutting to 1/3 in some cases over a 24hr period. How long do you think it takes to deplete a cubic mile of minerals and materials on earth? You really think things would deplete that fast in a day on such a large area/scale?
Inability to group extractor heads means having to relocate them every day, and deal with overlaps etc takes longer now then it used to to restart them every day, and I used to think that was still too long. This new feature has already worn off in terms of attractiveness for me, as it's more annoying now when just restarting all the damned old extractors every day.
Simple planetary chains of 2 basic and 1 advanced factory seem unsustainable now, which were previously self sufficient. These now will require even more attention to maintain a basic chain, or purchasing of additional resources regularly. This is with the Command Centres at 4 in all cases, and whilst this seems a little more sustainable with Command Centres at 5, those planets used to produce an excess of materials to help other planets with a lower yield. This is a huge drop in mined yield, again making it a lot harder to sustain on planets with anything less then a 1/4 strength of a particular substance.
If this is the case you will see demand for the base minerals going up very much so over the coming months, meaning your depletion is too severe over the given time period. This will of course lead to higher costs of items, which people were already unhappy at because it cost substantially more to run POS'es, which we all hate already because they are dull, costly and often don't bring in much worth while unless high end moons.
Perhaps if you wish you keep the depletion as it stands, at least allow grouping of extractor heads so we can move the whole group daily instead of one at a time and having to spend more time dealing with overlaps.
Another option is reduce the amount of base materials required to output at basic factories a bit from 3000 to say 2000 or 1500. This will in turn at least lower the cost of POS fuels, which will lower their prices over time due to competition, and thus return less income from PI, which is what you were aiming to do with this approach after reading one of the blogs and articles on another website.
Ohh and can someone please increase the size of the buttons to increase/reduce the length of the program! They are so small, one minor miss hit with the tablet pen and everything gets reset and you have to try to refine the program duration all over again. Quadrupling the size of the buttons would be beneficial. I've had to try to reselect the time, and refine it down so many times it's another nice feature worn off and now becoming irritating. Hell, provide a set of boxes where people can enter days / hours / minutes or something instead perhaps.
I hope someone reads some of this feedback and tries to restart 22 planets every day across four characters, relocating the extractor heads and trying to make the income meet the requirements for basic production chains, and can do it in less time then 45 minutes, which is what it used to be on a daily basis to restart the old extractors and maintain basic chains. You will soon see how un-fun, un-interesting and irritating it gets very quickly if you try to repeat this over a few days having to constantly move things.
Ohh yes, and once resources in your area are depleted at the rates they currently are going, we are going to have to destroy colony's and relocate the Command Centres, which will pretty much negate the income you have made over time having to incur these costs again. How do you intend to handle this problem over the longer term? Are Command Centre's going to be relocate-able on planets?
I eagerly look forward to any constructive response to the feedback.
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Ahaja Aegra
Minmatar Real Nice And Laidback Corporation Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2011.01.24 10:13:00 -
[853]
Still No reply from CCP - maybe there is some other topic replaying for this one? I still couldn't find one. -- TRUST NO ONE |
Alamoo
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Posted - 2011.01.24 10:25:00 -
[854]
Edited by: Alamoo on 24/01/2011 10:33:43 Please CCP have an How-to-Handle-Issues workshop at FANFEST. Want to propose to have one not really on the issues themselves but on the priorities, choices and strategy by CCP and on communication/feedback.
E.g. the kind of discussion I have in mind, if the new patch makes EVE crash for multiple characters I would assume CCP priorities that before handling menu issues that (true) may be bothersome but dont prevent you from playing the game. Questions could be: What are the issues? What are priorities? and Why? How will the remedies look like?
Cheerz. Alamoo
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Jiitta
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Posted - 2011.01.24 10:33:00 -
[855]
Originally by: Fred Kyong So far all works for me right now, I think.
We still have the Golden Retriever and the reddish tomato Mackinaw
That's strange my Mack is pretty much pink and looks awful!
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Drahreg
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Posted - 2011.01.24 11:01:00 -
[856]
Edited by: Drahreg on 24/01/2011 11:01:50 Entire Character Creation System looks rushed and generally unpolished ---> I agree with that....
Character Creation :
1. No Black Hair. --> and the over available colors are insufficent........
2. COLOSSAL lack of clothing. --> I agree with that (Are we going to have to pay real money to look good? Nice little earner CCP.) Do you want this shirt or.... this shirt? --> I would not even mind spending ISK for that but it's not even available
5. Skin alterations including age/freckles/scars ONLY EFFECTS THE FACE. If we can see the neck of an unblemished twelve year old on an eighty year old man something is dangerously wrong.--> I agree with thatWhat about tatoos and other decorations ?
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Masamang Kaluluwa
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Posted - 2011.01.24 11:19:00 -
[857]
I'd just like to say one thing on behalf of dual boxers everywhere, fix the fracking cntrl lock, having to click then cntrl then click again is BS, it's friggin annoying an needs to go back to the way it was, dropping out of alignment when trying to lock targets, and the general added seconds to complete what was once a simple task is screwed. Give us back our cntrl click, and stop fixing what's not broken...
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Bidvel Dunkan
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Posted - 2011.01.24 11:44:00 -
[858]
Edited by: Bidvel Dunkan on 24/01/2011 11:44:30 "Improvements" of contract systems with more trade taxes - bad idea,
bugs with Ctrl+click in overview, drone control windows and neutral standing icons in chat windows - I think you can and have to check this kind of bugs on test server, they are all not hiding in deep.
If you want more testers and tests/bugcheck on Singularity - try to motivate them
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Darveses
printcraft
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Posted - 2011.01.24 14:06:00 -
[859]
Not sure if its been said yet, but I'd appreciate the option to map the same key to "Dock/Jump/Activate Gate" and "Warp to", as well as "Align to" and "Approach", or have these options merged into one key function. These are respectively mutually exclusive depending on the selected target, so you'll never be able to use both on one target.
Maybe there are other combinations that are mutually exclusive too, but these two are the most prominent I could think of.
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Floydd Heywood
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Posted - 2011.01.24 14:47:00 -
[860]
Edited by: Floydd Heywood on 24/01/2011 14:52:22 I agree that the shortcuts system needs some corrections.
-CTRL+click for targeting should always work -no auto-approach by double-clicking, this leads to accidentally breaking orbit all the time -the hotkey for docking/jumping should also activate wormholes -no holding key + click but just always use the hotkey on the currently selected item
Using hotkeys after typing text into the chat is a problem too. What about auto-unfocus chat and switch to "hotkey mode" on pressing CTRL? You don't use the CTRL key while typing text into the chat and that way we could map the most important shortcuts to CTRL+Key combinations.
What would be nice as a bonus: Assign different key for different orbits/ranges. So one key would be "orbit at 2500" and another "orbit at 20000". But I guess that's too much to ask for
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Willie McBride
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Posted - 2011.01.24 19:26:00 -
[861]
Neutral colortags don't work as they should. This is a known issue and i'm posting to put more emphasize on it. Life in Nullsec and life for those with highsec wardec is living hell now...
I can't believe this was an intentional change as some quotes imply, was it CCP?
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Vilad Tepish
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Posted - 2011.01.25 02:39:00 -
[862]
after redoing my portrat and saving the the new one I log on today to find my old portrat back up what happend to the new on it didnt stick Oh well so much for the fix
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Zhou Wuwang
Federal Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.01.25 02:39:00 -
[863]
Edited by: Zhou Wuwang on 25/01/2011 02:39:45 I do not believe these minimum systems requirements remain valid. The GPU requirements for the new character creation far exceed these minimums even in "low" resolution mode. The character creator is unplayable. Also, is a DVD-ROM actually required?
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Minimum System Requirements:
* OS: Windows« XP Service Pack 2 / Vista / 7 * CPU: Intel Pentium« or AMD @ 1,5 Ghz or greater which supports SSE2 * RAM: XP (SP2) û 1 GB / Vista û 1.5 GB * HD space: 6gig Free Space * Network: 56k modem or better Internet connection * Video: 64 MB Shader Model 2.0 Graphics cards such as GeForce FX (5 series) class card or higher, ATi 9500, x300 series or higher and Similar chips from other manufacturers * Drivers: DirectX« 9.0c (included) and latest video drivers * DVD-ROM : 2 speed DVD reader or greater required.
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AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance
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Posted - 2011.01.25 04:49:00 -
[864]
CCP, you really need to start removing your heads from your sphincters.
If you break EVE, Dust will fail and so will WoD.
Stop breaking EVE.
You shouldn't be introducing your stupid and unnecessary non-consensual PvE content until you've fixed the bugs you just introduced in the last patch.
8 years is long enough to get a game out of beta.
Shape up, ffs.
Focus on excellence. (Get rid of bugs, macros and IF you have resources left over after that, develop EXISTING content.)
Instead we get bonuses broken, overview (already horrendous) broken, dark desktops, overtaxed cpu's (you're really overheating my computer for a meaningless avatar replacing the one I quite enjoyed and have had for years?) Thanks, asswipes!) and NO progress on faction warfare, a plethora of pre-existing bugs, or macro-removal.
Meanwhile, CSM members are quitting the CSM and/or the game itself based on your boneheaded ideas that are yet to be announced.
ClueTFU.
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Geralden
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Posted - 2011.01.25 10:22:00 -
[865]
I really thought PI was going to get improved to a playable level, so i invested the remaining saved up SP from the learning skills in PI.
What a mistake!
To anyone concidering picking up PI, dont... really, dont
It's gone from bad to worse, the resourses move so fast in the underground that you will have to delete command centers, in order to follow the flow.
I disliked PI before, but now you have to set up extractors each hour, to avoid depletion. Its insane. I really wish i could get my skill points back, to put them in something usefull.
For the avatar update - who gives a flying fish? Its a space game....
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Avowech
Minmatar Murientor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.01.25 11:36:00 -
[866]
Very poor character generator especially when you can't get remotely close to your original look. Huge download for a one hit generation, really need an option to tweak your look...
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Midas Nogero
Gallente Universal Solutions Inc
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Posted - 2011.01.25 13:11:00 -
[867]
Feedback: While I haven't had much time to actually play the game recently (so I may come across other issues)... so far, I'm satisfied with this expansion
1. I like the character creator ... It's a good beginning and I'm looking forward to seeing how it develops down the road. It does takes a bit of tweaking due to the 'finalized' image not translating entirely accurately when it is 'photographed' ... at least on my system. 2. I like the new PI system. It appears to be more interesting, challenging, involving and more time consuming ( I don't mean that as a negative) than in the previous iteration. 3. I like the new "Group Weapons" function.(if that was there prior to this expansion, I never noticed it.) 4. My system seems to run smoother with improved visual quality even with everything on high or stretched across two monitors, or running multiple clients. 5. My only other minor issues currently are with the 'broken' animation on the Hulk and Covetor, and the inconsistent coloring on the Mackinaw (copper colored ..in places), on my system and, to a lesser degree, on the 'Golden' Retriever.
Thank you, CCP for making the game a more interesting and fun experience for me.
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Woodman57
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Posted - 2011.01.25 13:50:00 -
[868]
Look at all these whines....seriously, I don't think there is anything that would make some of you happy, you'd ***** about everything.
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gravefeeder
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Posted - 2011.01.25 14:56:00 -
[869]
and theres me wondering where all the test monkeys went from nasa, wouldnt a ship customization/paint shop been a better idea, i mean its still a 1cm x 1cm avatar after all
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Mithrasith
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Posted - 2011.01.25 15:11:00 -
[870]
Originally by: bp920091 Im not sure whether or not CCP intended to entirely remove the usefulness of jumpfreighters in 0.0 with this patch (which they were DESIGNED for), but that is in reality what they have done with this small change. Having capital ships jump within 15KM of a cyno at a POS may sound good in theory, but it would take a jumpfreighter about 14 MINUTES just to get to a JB (12.5KM to go, 90m/s = 13.8M), and it is unable to defend itself in the process, unlike ANY other capital ship (yes, even rorquals have drone bays, JFs have NOTHING). Considering that JFs have ZERO module slots, bandwidth, or rig slots, just getting one in requires a SUBSTANTIAL support fleet (20 or so) just to make sure that the JF itself gets there without being hot dropped by an attacking fleet. You cant even speed up the process like you can with aligning freighters and webbing them to get them to instantly warp. Im not even sure what the intent of this section of patch is, if CCP wishes to remove the use of JumpBridges, then REMOVE them, dont screw the logistic ability of 0.0 alliances over in the process. For people living out in highsec, to move a lot of stuff into systems that may be cynojammed, you really need a freighter of a JF, and since freighters take FOREVER to go 1 jump, a ship that costs 4-4.5 BILLION isk should be able to do the job faster. Even before this patch, JFs had to wait 3 minutes or so BEFORE jumping through a JB because they move so slow and frankly, that is enough time to get to one, web it, and pour on DPS. Quadrupling this time makes absolutely no sense from really anyone's perspective, with the possible exception of the people who build the JFs themselves, just to increase demand. I would like to either see a reasonable response from CCP stating WHY they implemented this change or have it REMOVED, simply put.
The way that JF's were implemented before Incursion was enough to make me not use my JF (its been sitting in a hanger for 8-10 months now) - they are just too damn slow and too vulnerable, however with this change, Im very glad I am no longer reliant on my JF.
(the only thing I would use it for is high sec transport through gates as its align time is a bit faster than a freighter).
The Cyno/jump drive system wasnt designed for JF's, it was designed with combat vessels in mind. CCP just bolted it on to freighter sized vessels without thinking, and continues to modify it without consideration of the impact. Nothing new here.
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hankey
Minmatar The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.01.25 16:01:00 -
[871]
Feedback for incursions:
The idea of disabling Jump Bridges which are leading to the incursion systems looks stupid. At the moment we have lots of paralyzed Jump Bridge networks across New Eden. We tried to remove incursion from JB system, but after 3 hours of making plexes by 25 man gang including 5 logistics, incursion index dropped by 1% and quickly recovered when we stopped. This means that in order to reestablish JB network to the normal state, alliances who maintain it will have to do PvE without award (no ISKs, small amount of stupid LPs) for about 24+ hours. This is total waste of game time.
BTW Sansha Cyno Jammer should not disable jump bridges!!! Because regular Cyno Jammer can't do it.
CCP Fix it please.
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Floydd Heywood
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Posted - 2011.01.25 17:26:00 -
[872]
It's still so quiet here... I'm at work, but I keep hearing that thousands of player ships are being destroyed, including countless very expensive ships like marauders. It sounds like the players die like flies and aren't making a dent even to the easier sansha sites. I was expecting to find the forum devastated too... by an unprecedented storm of rage. But I guess it isn't so bad after all?
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Annasophia Smith
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Posted - 2011.01.25 17:46:00 -
[873]
All you ppl that are whining about the character creator. Need to go to read the dev blog about the creator. It is a work in progress. As they add to it we will be able to modify / redo our characters accordingly. So stop your whining and go to the fridge and open a can or bottle of patience. All will be good.
Now complain about the system wide nerfings that will occur to any system that has an incursion. The nerfing (despite being temp.) will affect everything and one in that system. Including your implants, modules, ships bonuses and ammo.
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Takseen
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Posted - 2011.01.25 17:50:00 -
[874]
Originally by: hankey Feedback for incursions:
At the moment we have lots of paralyzed Jump Bridge networks across New Eden. We tried to remove incursion from JB system, but after 3 hours of making plexes by 25 man gang including 5 logistics, incursion index dropped by 1% and quickly recovered when we stopped. This means that in order to reestablish JB network to the normal state, alliances who maintain it will have to do PvE without award (no ISKs, small amount of stupid LPs) for about 24+ hours. This is total waste of game time.
The legion of carebears in Deltole have already knocked 33% off the system influence there. And they're probably far less efficient at Pve than you 0.0 guys, given that they've lost 240 or so ships doing it.
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Crazy Renegade
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Posted - 2011.01.25 17:51:00 -
[875]
Edited by: Crazy Renegade on 25/01/2011 17:53:55
Originally by: Floydd Heywood It's still so quiet here... I'm at work, but I keep hearing that thousands of player ships are being destroyed, including countless very expensive ships like marauders. It sounds like the players die like flies and aren't making a dent even to the easier sansha sites. I was expecting to find the forum devastated too... by an unprecedented storm of rage. But I guess it isn't so bad after all?
LMAO, I know what to expect from them. I read the patch notes. It basically works like this. They invade, you get the hell nerffed out of you, you and the rest of the system warp in to save the day and lose your ships. Like I been saying it is horribly one sided. They win you lose. Heavily. ROTFLMAO. They should have really read the patch notes and other dev blogs / videos on the subject. Could have saved them some pain and agony caused by losing expensive ships.
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Quincy Taggart
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Posted - 2011.01.25 17:56:00 -
[876]
Jumping in on page 30... have they mentioned anything about the continual crashes in ntdll.dll on Win 7 64 bit systems? Ever since 17-Jan(ish) this thing has been unstable especially when first loggin in or jumping through gates. latest video drivers are no help...
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Annasophia Smith
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Posted - 2011.01.25 18:02:00 -
[877]
Edited by: Annasophia Smith on 25/01/2011 18:04:02
Originally by: Quincy Taggart Jumping in on page 30... have they mentioned anything about the continual crashes in ntdll.dll on Win 7 64 bit systems? Ever since 17-Jan(ish) this thing has been unstable especially when first loggin in or jumping through gates. latest video drivers are no help...
Glad you said that. I was going to update to Win 7. Gonna hold off a bit now. BTW here is the thread about the crashes. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1455611
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Quincy Taggart
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Posted - 2011.01.25 18:07:00 -
[878]
Originally by: Annasophia Smith Edited by: Annasophia Smith on 25/01/2011 18:04:02
Originally by: Quincy Taggart Jumping in on page 30... have they mentioned anything about the continual crashes in ntdll.dll on Win 7 64 bit systems? Ever since 17-Jan(ish) this thing has been unstable especially when first loggin in or jumping through gates. latest video drivers are no help...
Glad you said that. I was going to update to Win 7. Gonna hold off a bit now. BTW here is the thread about the crashes. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1455611
Yeah I run three accounts...well I did BEFORE the patch...now my cyno alt DC's, my cap ship pilot DC's. Everything worked fine before! Here's an idea that any PROFESSIONAL software development org would have thought of - "roll back plan". This isn't working, roll it back and try again in six months.
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Annasophia Smith
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Posted - 2011.01.25 18:24:00 -
[879]
Originally by: Quincy Taggart
Originally by: Annasophia Smith Edited by: Annasophia Smith on 25/01/2011 18:04:02
Originally by: Quincy Taggart Jumping in on page 30... have they mentioned anything about the continual crashes in ntdll.dll on Win 7 64 bit systems? Ever since 17-Jan(ish) this thing has been unstable especially when first loggin in or jumping through gates. latest video drivers are no help...
Glad you said that. I was going to update to Win 7. Gonna hold off a bit now. BTW here is the thread about the crashes. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1455611
Yeah I run three accounts...well I did BEFORE the patch...now my cyno alt DC's, my cap ship pilot DC's. Everything worked fine before! Here's an idea that any PROFESSIONAL software development org would have thought of - "roll back plan". This isn't working, roll it back and try again in six months.
LOL, CCP I think prefers the trudge and muddle through approach to solutions. Which dispite everyone's views could possibly be the easiest approach. The hard thing about programming is that even though you get a lot of the problems resolved, Noting is really fixed until it is actually released then it get patched to death. How many AI games you buy in the past only to have to d/l patches to get the bugs fixed. Same applies to mmo's
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JooJoo Akarr
Territorial Western Alliance of Higher Technology
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Posted - 2011.01.25 19:18:00 -
[880]
About the incursions:
What if people just stop doing incursions and let the sansha's take over? Was that the whole point? Because right now the only thing its doing for me is for the enjoyment of watching people fly into incursion sites one by one being insta popped in anything from Domis and Ravens to little wanna-be ninja salvage probes. The fireworks show does get a little boring after a while though. =\
At least make incursion sites a bit more "do-able". Fantastic, great, tell us to get together 40-50 battleship groups per site. But i highly doubt that will happen since nobody wants their precious BS to be the first, second, or 20th ship to get insta popped on warp in. I think this incursion concept is a great idea, just needs some balancing there guys....
Unless this is exactly what you wanted to happen CCP? Have everybody lose their ships to a useless cause in order to jump start the economy? If thats the case, good job! Its working LOL.
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Wolf Spyder
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Posted - 2011.01.25 20:16:00 -
[881]
One of the things that caught my attention quick was when I heard in the video that incursions was designed from the ground up to be excruciatingly hard to dis wade solo pilots from going in. It was designed with the sole intent that it would take a massive fleet to destroy. Which is similar to what you might see in 0.0 space if you were in a large fleet going to attack another corp. You need to have all manner of ships with special abilities to do different things. Not just come in swinging. Granted they are NPC's but you got to approach them as though it was a PvP situation. Since the damage delt by them might already be known, the devs came up with operation nerf them all and let the shansha sort them out approach to it. Soooo you are now fighting with a handicap to encourage "team work" to defeat the shansha. If you approach it like you would a PvP encounter it might go easier. Set up a large fleet mixed with tacklers, repairers, heavy hitters, smaller ships to pop their smaller ships. Go at it from all levels. As for me and my crappy connection....I'll watch from a safe distance.
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Mithrasith
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Posted - 2011.01.25 20:47:00 -
[882]
I could be wrong, but I predicted early that the incursions would not be popular.
We havent even gotten to the fun of the poor/small loot drops yet.
240 ships destroyed...And 1-2 people will get the loot? lol talk about RAGE.
IMO - this is CCP's attempt to drain a lot of ISK out of the system. That's the whole point of these incurions I think. They needed a HUGE ISK Sink in order to counter the growing ISK in the system.
Let the other suckers get destroyed by it. Eventually people will come to their senses and stop running the silly things.
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Kirana
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Posted - 2011.01.25 21:56:00 -
[883]
Originally by: Mithrasith I could be wrong, but I predicted early that the incursions would not be popular.
We havent even gotten to the fun of the poor/small loot drops yet.
240 ships destroyed...And 1-2 people will get the loot? lol talk about RAGE.
IMO - this is CCP's attempt to drain a lot of ISK out of the system. That's the whole point of these incurions I think. They needed a HUGE ISK Sink in order to counter the growing ISK in the system.
Let the other suckers get destroyed by it. Eventually people will come to their senses and stop running the silly things.
Maybe the "Too big to fail" corps need a bailout. ;-) ________________
ôBy any accepted standard, I have had more than nine lives. I counted them up once and there were 13 times I almost and maybe should have diedö
Hunter S. Thompson |
Cokster
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Posted - 2011.01.25 22:01:00 -
[884]
I really wish that the GM's would respond to the petition, it seems I am getting no responses lately...
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Zhao Sho
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Posted - 2011.01.26 01:35:00 -
[885]
>3300 player ships destroyed in Algintal constellation alone, fighting one incursion and losing the battle. We're not even through day one.
GG, CCP.
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thowlimer
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.01.26 01:48:00 -
[886]
Originally by: Mithrasith I could be wrong, but I predicted early that the incursions would not be popular.
We havent even gotten to the fun of the poor/small loot drops yet.
240 ships destroyed...And 1-2 people will get the loot? lol talk about RAGE.
IMO - this is CCP's attempt to drain a lot of ISK out of the system. That's the whole point of these incurions I think. They needed a HUGE ISK Sink in order to counter the growing ISK in the system.
Let the other suckers get destroyed by it. Eventually people will come to their senses and stop running the silly things.
Actually destroyed ships is an ISK-Faucet, due to insurance. Destroying a ship will only redistribute isk, not destroy it. Since most ships/modules are player made(the ones from LP stores do eat isk), they will only redistribute the isk, not move it out of game. "Faber est suae quisque fortunae" Appius Claudius Caecus |
DS614
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Posted - 2011.01.26 03:46:00 -
[887]
Whats funny is how fast the sansha control recovers after a short period of time. Algintal was at ~50% control about 4 or 5 hours ago. Now? Back at 100% sansha control baby. Help us Jove Empire, youre our only hope...
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Kirana
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Posted - 2011.01.26 07:15:00 -
[888]
Edited by: Kirana on 26/01/2011 07:15:28
Originally by: DS614 Whats funny is how fast the sansha control recovers after a short period of time. Algintal was at ~50% control about 4 or 5 hours ago. Now? Back at 100% sansha control baby. Help us Jove Empire, youre our only hope...
How cool would that be if Incursion was just elaborate cover for the real expansion where the Jove come back. Everyone goes bat**** for a week then the Jove swoop in and save the day, delivering goodies for all the good little boys and girls.
Epic troll, CCP.
Edit: Hopefully they also bring back my uncorrupted skill sheet. Would be nice to actually train on the account I am paying for. ________________
ôBy any accepted standard, I have had more than nine lives. I counted them up once and there were 13 times I almost and maybe should have diedö
Hunter S. Thompson |
Fuel Technician
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Posted - 2011.01.26 09:49:00 -
[889]
Originally by: Kirana Edited by: Kirana on 26/01/2011 07:15:28
Originally by: DS614 Whats funny is how fast the sansha control recovers after a short period of time. Algintal was at ~50% control about 4 or 5 hours ago. Now? Back at 100% sansha control baby. Help us Jove Empire, youre our only hope...
How cool would that be if Incursion was just elaborate cover for the real expansion where the Jove come back. Everyone goes bat**** for a week then the Jove swoop in and save the day, delivering goodies for all the good little boys and girls.
Epic troll, CCP.
Edit: Hopefully they also bring back my uncorrupted skill sheet. Would be nice to actually train on the account I am paying for.
will they bring back Elvis too?
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Woodman2
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Posted - 2011.01.26 10:52:00 -
[890]
Originally by: Annasophia Smith Edited by: Annasophia Smith on 25/01/2011 18:04:02
Originally by: Quincy Taggart Jumping in on page 30... have they mentioned anything about the continual crashes in ntdll.dll on Win 7 64 bit systems? Ever since 17-Jan(ish) this thing has been unstable especially when first loggin in or jumping through gates. latest video drivers are no help...
Glad you said that. I was going to update to Win 7. Gonna hold off a bit now. BTW here is the thread about the crashes. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1455611
I'm using win 7 64 bit and have not experienced any crashes or any other problems.
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Sarina Berghil
Minmatar New Zion Judge Advocate Multiple Sargasm
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Posted - 2011.01.26 11:17:00 -
[891]
Originally by: Takseen
The legion of carebears in Deltole have already knocked 33% off the system influence there. And they're probably far less efficient at Pve than you 0.0 guys, given that they've lost 240 or so ships doing it.
Last night it was knocked back almost to 50%, unfortunately this morning it had reset to 99%. Seems the numbers could do with a bit of tweaking. This seems like the only incursion so far that has been fought on a large scale, but even then it seems almost impossible to finish it.
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Fox Andromeda
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Posted - 2011.01.26 11:28:00 -
[892]
Best eve patch ever! empire needed a good shaking to rattle loose the grime. eve is what i hoped it could be once more :) this game is for people 18 and over with an IQ of..... well w/e if you got butt hurt buy this patch your not smart enough to play this game, try i childs game, you know WoW lol. if not man up and figure it out, and if you dont like it go play wow. please, there are to many stupid people in the real world, dont croud imaginary space with your vapid faces.
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Floydd Heywood
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Posted - 2011.01.26 11:51:00 -
[893]
I wouldn't be surprised if they made the first incursions extra-hard so we cannot defeat them for a while. To convey an impression of real war; everyone is affected and the enemy seems overwhelmingly strong. Imagine the players would have beaten back the incursions within a day. Everyone would be yawning and asking: What, that's it?
Or maybe most empire dwellers just suck at real combat (opponents who can deal out more than symbolic damage and use something that could pass for the brain activity of an ant) to a higher degree than CCP assumed. Then either the hisec population will learn a few things... or CCP will eventually nerf the sanshas before everyone emoragequits the game.
I'm also quite sure that a lot of players entered sites in cheap and weak ships, even shuttles and rookie ships, to just have a look at the sanshas without risking anything valuable. I bet at least 50% of the lost ships were almost worthless.
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Andre Coeurl
Gallente TOHA Heavy Industries TOHA Conglomerate
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Posted - 2011.01.26 12:25:00 -
[894]
In fact, as somebody already noted, by just by reading the devblogs I similarly chose to wait and see, and not jump into any incursion yet, since there were some immediately apparent problems with this... which by the way were apparent even in the first test incursions.
Looting is unmanageable, and awarding LP only when completely repelling the invasion (and only to the gang who made the most) is ridiculos. The players get nerfed, CONCORD and Empires' navies don't move a finger, while pirates and griefers can easily "help" the Sanshas without any additional penalty. Sanshas are a threat to every Empire and capsuleer, the people fighting them should be rewarded seriously, CONCORD and Navies should side capsuleers, and the people helping Sansha should be banned from Empires forever.
All of this was enough for me, without even knowing that the Sansha fleet would be so overwhelming, and that control levels would restore themselves so fast. To anyone who has something to do elsewhere, joining an incursion fleet makes no sense at the moment, it's a waste of time and isk unless if you have a ship with an expiring insurance...
This is very sad to be honest, since the incursion idea is great, but it needs to be not only rebalanced, it must be deeply modified in looting reward and punishment mechanics to become a living part of EVE. --- --- ---
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leecam
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Posted - 2011.01.26 14:16:00 -
[895]
16 hours of hard game play
countless sansha bs kills
one megathron loss
reward :- 1.5mil & 212 lp
epic fail ccp
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Kirana
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Posted - 2011.01.26 18:42:00 -
[896]
Originally by: Fuel Technician
will they bring back Elvis too?
Elvis never died. I saw him in Jita at a station yesterday. ________________
ôBy any accepted standard, I have had more than nine lives. I counted them up once and there were 13 times I almost and maybe should have diedö
Hunter S. Thompson |
Boramon
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Posted - 2011.01.26 19:06:00 -
[897]
Windows based pc running Microsoft 7
Ok 1st download went fine, until the next download happened
1. Log in and I am told my character has been flagged for re-customization
2. I attempt to do so except I get the error "CCP exefile has encountered a problem and will now shut down."
3. I clear out my cache and try to re-install and now it is giving me the error that some files are corrupted or missing so I run the repair program guess what? Oh it fails too
here is said error? Any suggestions? "Error: Traceback (most recent call last): File "repairPanel.pyc", line 325, in _Start File "repair.py", line 292, in RunTask File "repair.py", line 119, in TaskRestoreFile File "zsync\zsync.pyc", line 50, in RestoreFile File "zsync\zsync.pyc", line 84, in _RestoreFile File "zsync\fileSync.pyc", line 348, in __init__ File "zsync\fileSync.pyc", line 120, in IsComplete File "zsync\fileSync.pyc", line 103, in GetFoundRanges File "zsync\fileSync.pyc", line 172, in _UpdateRanges File "zsync\fileSync.pyc", line 268, in _DataChunkRecognized File "zsync\fileSync.pyc", line 219, in _UpdateCurrentData File "zsync\fileSync.pyc", line 228, in _ReadChunk IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied"
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Wolf Spyder
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Posted - 2011.01.26 19:44:00 -
[898]
I am experiencing problems with detecting incursions on my star map. I have cleared my cache, made sure the correct setting was active which was "incursions". As well as made sure I was not on the solar system map lol. The only thing I saw was a star map full of gray colored solar system dots. I was told in local that an active incursion was taking place in Deltole. Is anyone else having this problem? Is CCP exercising their sinister sense of humor by setting it up so that us jump in to a system completely unaware of it being invaded
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Wolf Spyder
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Posted - 2011.01.26 19:57:00 -
[899]
Originally by: Mithrasith Let the other suckers get destroyed by it. Eventually people will come to their senses and stop running the silly things.
I wonder if the sansha are ignored if they would either spread their influence by occupying other systems like a disease or if they would simply hop around after x amount of time passes with no aggression being made towards them. be interesting to see what happens. I know what to expect when they show up.....Me buying a new ship in the market. I foresee prices rising real soon as more and more people lose ships to an impossible to win scenario. Which is fine by me as its more money in my pocket.
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Wolf Spyder
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Posted - 2011.01.26 20:02:00 -
[900]
The Sansha Incursion kinda reminds me of the no win scenario in Star Trek. What a way to pop a few egos that thought they were impervious.
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Kirana
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Posted - 2011.01.26 20:19:00 -
[901]
Originally by: Wolf Spyder Edited by: Wolf Spyder on 26/01/2011 20:11:21 The Sansha Incursion kinda reminds me of the no win scenario in Star Trek.
Kobayashi Maru?
Well... You know how Kirk beat that... Exploit. ;-) ________________
ôBy any accepted standard, I have had more than nine lives. I counted them up once and there were 13 times I almost and maybe should have diedö
Hunter S. Thompson |
Joss56
Gallente Unleashed' Fury
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Posted - 2011.01.26 21:15:00 -
[902]
Edited by: Joss56 on 26/01/2011 21:16:13
Originally by: Annasophia Smith The nerfing (despite being temp.) will affect everything and one in that system. Including your implants, modules, ships bonuses and ammo.
Humm, so wy did I lost over 12% resists at Auvergne and systems around since yesterday where there are no sancha's incursion at this or any other system around?
Doesn't makes me laugh, really, all it gives me is will enough to disconect and be back later in a few days fill my skills que and play something else. Already flying wallente shi'tubs with enough drawbacks no need aditional patch mistakes. ________________________________________________
"You do realise you live on a globe, right? And that there places outside the USA/UK?"
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Lallante
Reikoku IT Alliance
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Posted - 2011.01.27 00:38:00 -
[903]
The tears of bears sustain me
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - Reikoku
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KirosawaMadFilms
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Posted - 2011.01.27 06:23:00 -
[904]
Epic fail CCP,
It's too optimistic that random strangers forming a fleet from local will work well enough together to beat an ultra hard room when everything is nerfed.
popped two ships in two minutes, no help from my 'teammates', risk/reward ratio is entirely screwed up. Will never do again
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Glarion Garnier
Thermal reaction
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Posted - 2011.01.27 06:25:00 -
[905]
Edited by: Glarion Garnier on 27/01/2011 06:24:59 Having tried the character creator for 3 different races now. I feel underwhelmed.
Mostly it lacks -colour for hairs -hair styles (where is that gallente trade mark style) -clothing styles in every category -tattoos, implants, gear, sunglasses (the one style for sun glasses and slight variations of it does not even count in my book) -
Wow the character creator we got is like EVE Senate edition - only slightly creative selection of purist clothing. - if this new character creator were to be the image of the future eve - well the image would be about a DULL game.
CCP if aim to WOW other games gamers dont make Character Creator for IRL senate types. Make a bold one.
- how to fix it is .. do more and let everyone update once done .. and you have peoples respect.
And I'm not saying it's a total failure it just needs 50% more stuff.
_________________________________ -be vary of the men behind the curtain-
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kKayron Jarvis
Caldari Tech 3 Constructions
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Posted - 2011.01.27 09:34:00 -
[906]
i am a pl man i have 13 planets over 3 cahs. the pi update is good bettor than what was there.
1) one think i wold like is to add text to the planet tabe in science & industry. 2) i wold like to see the extractor control unit (time to depletion)for the lower one on planet in the science & industry.
a good update CCP
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Crazy Dave
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Posted - 2011.01.27 15:32:00 -
[907]
Since my map isn't showing me where the incursions are at. I took a gamble and went to Deltole since it was rumored that an incursion was taking place there. Since I had no idea (aside from the patch notes and videos) what to really expect first hand. So I took off in my Minmatar attack shuttle (rare item of the imagination) and went to observe the incursion. When I arrived there I spent about 20 min watching a hoard of players attack this one shansha cruiser. They were using about 50 drones and every manner of weapons you can use in a high sec system. Guess what? Go on guess.... The shansha was able to completely absorb the damage. Its shields did not go below the 80% mark before they shot back up to 100%. Eventually though after about an hour of watching it and more ships showed up. The cruiser got popped. But far more player ships got converted in to artichoke looking capsules. Fortunately my attack shuttle wasn't targeted or attacked.
I started to look over the structures that were there and reading the info. The centralized structure was an automated shansha ship repair facility designed to, you guessed it, repair the shansha ships being attacked. After what I saw it was a very effective structure. Surrounding the repair structure I saw several other logistical support structures which according to the notes are used as IFF beacons for the repair facility so it can ID the proper ships to fix. They are also able to be hacked. Something no one was doing. Everyone was focused on assault and the unconscious desire to lose their expensive ships to pay attention to the structures. I wonder if hacking in to those logistical support structures might weaken the shansha enough to repel the incursion. Going by the common sense approach, if those are disabled then perhaps the shansha would lose the ability to nerf all the ships and gadgets in the affected system. But I'm not sure if that is the case. Might work might not. Something big has to be active to generate a field that can affect an entire system. If not, then perhaps CCP can work that in to the scenario. What ever the case. I do believe that those logistical posts are the key to repelling the shansha. Otherwise I think they are a bit on the too strong side for smaller corps to want to deal with.
Also the re/blue status line. Needs to be adjusted. IMHO the recovery time is way to fast for the shansha. As they are the invaders waring in a system that is occupied by others. If anything the blue line should be faster to recovery than the red. The shansha need to ferry in logistics not the other way around. stationing logistics takes time. The defenders have logistical support in the form of their corp's and stations.
Just my two bits worth.
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Salpun
Gallente Paramount Commerce
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Posted - 2011.01.27 15:51:00 -
[908]
This discusion has moved to the 1.1.2 thread. To answer your points. Recharge of Sansha control has been changed as of today. All map features have to be selected. Its in there you just have to find it. The journal is the best place to find where incursions are happaning and there status. Last tab to the right will give you all the info you need. Was bugged but got fixed to day as well. Fly safe.
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Crazy Dave
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Posted - 2011.01.27 16:18:00 -
[909]
Originally by: Salpun This discusion has moved to the 1.1.2 thread. To answer your points. Recharge of Sansha control has been changed as of today. All map features have to be selected. Its in there you just have to find it. The journal is the best place to find where incursions are happaning and there status. Last tab to the right will give you all the info you need. Was bugged but got fixed to day as well. Fly safe.
Cool. Thanks for the heads up
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Loyal Dragon
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Posted - 2011.01.27 19:16:00 -
[910]
I Vote That Incursion Be Removed From The Game ! After Wasting A Day Playing Incursion i Believe That it should be removed !
And Should be redone i would rather see incursion be New 3-10 player based missions that People accept in there journal then do them in random locations as it is now its a extremely chaotic mess.
Incursion Is A waste Of Players Resources And Player s time
if you the player agree the incursion should be removed from game and fixed then please vote
( Incursion Should Be Removed From EVE )
thank you
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Quicksilver Proteus
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Posted - 2011.01.28 01:34:00 -
[911]
Overall I do not like the new character creator. While I can understand about the changes made to PI and can adapt I'm really at a loss to find the necessity of having us scrap our old characters for newer one created with a tool that seems rather incomplete and limited. As evidenced by my horrible character portrait, I still need to play around with it a bit but it's been difficult getting something other than a generic asian looking thug. Partly because even though the game plays fine with most of the advanced video settings turned up it is absolutely horrible to use unless I turn the shader detail down to low, which CCP does not recommend.
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AnonyTerrorNinja
Minmatar Buggers' Advanced Interstellar Transport
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Posted - 2011.01.29 12:08:00 -
[912]
Edited by: AnonyTerrorNinja on 29/01/2011 12:08:16 Still waiting to get my hair back.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1450535&page=21#617
I'm confused as to why some hair options are exclusive to some races/bloodlines; surely hair stylists aren't racist? ---
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Ulstan
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Posted - 2011.01.31 03:09:00 -
[913]
Double clicking on a planet needs to STOP GOING TO YOUR COMMAND CENTER.
It's pointless. The command center may as well not exist. It does nothing, nothing is hoooked up to it.
You want to focus on your extractors/storage/processors when double clicking.
Or, at least do nothing. But for God's sake stop making a double click whip you to the other side of the planet from where you are focusing on the ECU to look at your command center.
Best of all: let us drag the command center around. Now that we have to move our colony around to chase hotspots, this seems very helpful.
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O Wren
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Posted - 2011.01.31 22:07:00 -
[914]
Char maker is not to bad, better than it was sortof. Only thing that chaps me right away is when you go to the closeup and the shoulders are all puffed and bunched up lol. It was kinda fun though. I have a year and a half old lappy that runns great on medium settings but I did change them for the char maker and it was a little laggy but I could still see everything and complete the task. If you really want to feel justified for cryin about a game try FFXIV, this is like summer camp compared to that mess.
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Lemming King
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Posted - 2011.02.11 14:23:00 -
[915]
Originally by: Mecinia Lua Something is wrong with Military Indexes. I just spent 4 hours doing anoms/ratting with friends and it barely moved 4% total. That's ridiculous. Something in the code messed it up and if you want more folks in 0.0 you need to fix it. Not sure what you did to exactly break it but it obviously can't be counting things the same.
At the same time you might look into halving what was the industry index requirements. You keep saying you want more small and medium size alliances out in 0.0 but you hamstring them at every chance.
My corp moved into a system that was at L3 military upgrades upgrades prior to the last big Incursion patch. We've been ratting our buts off yet the index has now fallen to L1. We've done the Ihub upgrade thing before in other systems and have been able to advance through L2 without issues, L3 we could move although slowly. Something has changed... stealth nerf?, bug? Over 1200 rats killed in the system in a day and it wont budge to Level 2. My corp is not the sov hold so I can only see the dashboard not exact percentages at the Ihub. CCP comment please.....
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Sarge Ironside
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Posted - 2011.02.11 16:18:00 -
[916]
Come on you whiners!
You really think this is the be all end all of the carbon caracter creation?
The haircuts will come, the clothes will come, the updated scarring and body aging will come. Don't be surprised if you can buy some of it from incarna ingame stores. The scarring and aging aspect is easily remedied by implementing it in a patch and giving everyone a free remake, or free edit (to not mess up what you've already done).
Chill brothers and sisters, they got this! Don't forget you got the whole expansion at no cost beyond the regular sub. Some of us even got it by working ingame for the gametime. No real life cash spent.
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TheRealBanana1
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.02.20 08:13:00 -
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If there were rewards that made fighting incursions worth it I'm sure more people would be working hard to beat them back. That's a no-brainer. And you'd think that concord would be willing to pay out bounties for killing some of the most feared and powerful enemies in eve who are invading empire (which concord is supposed to be protecting right?). Based on what I've read over the last 3 pages there's no way I'm going anywhere near an incursion site.
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OUGA OUGA
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Posted - 2011.02.20 18:42:00 -
[918]
Systematic crash upon entering character selection. Running Windows XP SP3 Tried different folders, drivers, graphic cards. Tried to repair, reinstalled vcredist_x86. You name it, i tried it.
This is what i get from CCP Log Server:
TriDDSHandler: 'res:/Texture/Sprite/Fluorecent.dds' in unsupported format (D3DFMT_P8)
Texture 'res:/Texture/Sprite/Fluorecent.dds' needs format conversion
TriDDSHandler failed to load texture 'res:/Texture/Sprite/Fluorecent.dds' - retrying with D3DX functions
Now that's 4 days without being able to play, opened a petition 4 days ago, you think it'd be top priority since it prevents people from playing, yet no response yet. Several people with the same issues, all their petitions unanswered for days as well.
All these people have different OS & hardware, problem is on CCP's end.
Config: Q9550, 3.25 go ram (xp ftw), HD5770 x2. Mounted on an asus P5Q Pro Turbo.
Pay & don't play, basically.
Edit: 24 hours later, still no words from CCP, at least one more person with the same issue & again different system. People's petitions on this issue still unanswered, even those sent as early as february 16th. Still unable to play...
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Johan Civire
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Posted - 2011.04.20 01:10:00 -
[919]
Thanks love it so far ccp keep it going :) you boys and girls do a great job there :D Some day i will hunt you! |
Wolf Spyder
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Posted - 2011.05.05 16:35:00 -
[920]
Edited by: Wolf Spyder on 05/05/2011 16:37:04 With the advent of grossly over powered ships released in the incursion expansion, For use in high sec systems, would it be too much to ask for CCP to create a pocket titan (similar term was used to describe certain battle ships in ww2) this pocket titan can instapop anything up to a battle cruiser. Ships of larger sized would receive a damage based on distance from the ship.
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Il Sharazen
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Posted - 2011.05.12 02:23:00 -
[921]
I find the game client horribly unstable since the last patch. Client frequently crashes out several times a night. Twice in the last 10 minutes while trying to scan a system.
Exceedingly frustrating when you're cloaked, have already deployed scanner probes, begin to move them to where they need to be and.....crash to desktop. No errors. No warnings. Nothing.
Routinely. Poor QA.
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UniqueOne
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.05.12 11:01:00 -
[922]
Originally by: Il Sharazen Edited by: Il Sharazen on 12/05/2011 02:36:56 I find the game client horribly unstable since the last patch. Client frequently crashes out several times a night. Twice in the last 10 minutes while trying to scan a system.
Exceedingly frustrating when you're cloaked, have already deployed scanner probes, begin to move them to where they need to be and.....crash to desktop. No errors. No warnings. Nothing.
Routinely. Poor QA.
Make that 3 times in 12 minutes....deployed probes, changed scan range, hit "Scan", probes go into warp, crash.
At least this time there was an error displayed (though not sure how useful).
Quote:
Problem signature: Problem Event Name:BEX Application Name:ExeFile.exe Application Version:6.43.24.4285 Application Timestamp:4d91b621 Fault Module Name:igdumd32.dll Fault Module Version:7.15.10.1666 Fault Module Timestamp:49a6effc Exception Offset:003147c8 Exception Code:c0000005 Exception Data:00000008 OS Version:6.0.6002.2.2.0.256.1 Locale ID:1033 Additional Information 1:6900 Additional Information 2:e5e2cc2f085139635689c5d2e00402a0 Additional Information 3:f4bb Additional Information 4:300c9fc118462fd85c88c7611cc9ebc8
That looks like a problem with your intel graphics drivers. Update/Downgrade them and see if that helps.
But this is going off topic :)
How to fix fleet lag in a fair way once and for all.
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Mr Cleann
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.07.05 13:54:00 -
[923]
I like the detail in the C/Q but I got these nagging questions......
Where is the remote for the TV?
Why is there no refrigerator stocked with Quafe?
How come I can't lay on the bed but can sit on the couch? Theres an old saying out in the west. A cowboy never stands when he can sit, and never sits when he can lay down?
When will the warden open my cell door so I can explore the station?
A stocked kitchen or a food slot in the door needs to be created.
And where is the restroom and shower? Be the kind of man that when your feet hit the floor each morning, the devil says "Oh crap, he's up!"
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