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Idicious Lightbane
Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2011.01.06 08:34:00 -
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What went down today in Tama was epic, for 3 hours nonstop Caldari and Galante went head to head nonstop, only warping out to get new ships, new warpins etc. There was no capital escalation (1 carrier entered from caldari side at one point but nothing serious), not very blobby, just people going in, dying and getting a new ship and coming back to do it all over again.
http://gallente.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=8460106
Around 10 Bil ISK in damage done total, Galante held the field but fck, no-one cared toward the end who would have won. Just Epic fights in local all around. This should really get a news article on it, one of largest fights ISK and ships killed in FW ever. Great fight to all you Squids, lets do it again soon 
Oh and Draketrain, what's that with not helping Gallente? 
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SaltyandSweet
Amarr Steady Mobbin
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Posted - 2011.01.06 08:36:00 -
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lol it was a total ass****ry of a fight for both sides i lost 4 ships but who cares it was ****ing awsome.
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Daniel Essig
Ascendent.
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Posted - 2011.01.06 08:45:00 -
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You forgot how your stragglers kept getting killed by pies 
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SaltyandSweet
Amarr Steady Mobbin
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Posted - 2011.01.06 09:08:00 -
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umm no
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Mutant Caldari
Caldari Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2011.01.06 09:11:00 -
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God damnit. All of the good **** happens when I am sleeping  Yeah I am a pirate. What are you gonna do about it? Killboard link is not allowed to be used in a signature.Applebabe
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Corewin
NoD Imperium
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Posted - 2011.01.06 09:17:00 -
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It sounds like and looks like a completely unorganized mess on the CalMils part. Its as if someone in the Caldari fleet was actually suggesting that things were going well. Far from it. FC should have called it way sooner, seriously people going in and losing HACs and BCs over and over? Something seriously broke down on the command level.
This may be a large fight as of late, but I've personally run fleets of 100 plus ships with 30 BS present, up against similar numbers, back when ACHMED Fleets and FOOM/Caldarus Rex Fleets would duke it out.
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Eva Valeer
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Posted - 2011.01.06 09:27:00 -
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Originally by: Corewin unorganized mess on the CalMils part

When where these bunch of mission runners ever organized
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.01.06 09:30:00 -
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Originally by: Corewin It sounds like and looks like a completely unorganized mess on the CalMils part. Its as if someone in the Caldari fleet was actually suggesting that things were going well. Far from it.
My best guess is they stayed on the field since they outnumbered us anywhere between 2:1 - 4:1 throughout that fight.
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Corewin
NoD Imperium
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Posted - 2011.01.06 09:31:00 -
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Originally by: Eva Valeer
Originally by: Corewin unorganized mess on the CalMils part

When where these bunch of mission runners ever organized
When I led them. When Gavin led them. First General has got it going on at the moment. DrakeTrain in general knows the in and outs, but seems to have not been present. =\
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Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2011.01.06 09:31:00 -
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Originally by: Corewin It sounds like and looks like a completely unorganized mess on the CalMils part.
Seems so (I was not present). I cannot believe people in militia channel actually said it was awesome fight or had fun there.
Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
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Idicious Lightbane
Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2011.01.06 09:32:00 -
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Originally by: Corewin It sounds like and looks like a completely unorganized mess on the CalMils part. Its as if someone in the Caldari fleet was actually suggesting that things were going well. Far from it. FC should have called it way sooner, seriously people going in and losing HACs and BCs over and over? Something seriously broke down on the command level.
This may be a large fight as of late, but I've personally run fleets of 100 plus ships with 30 BS present, up against similar numbers, back when ACHMED Fleets and FOOM/Caldarus Rex Fleets would duke it out.
It was most likely the fact that they outnumbered us by a fair amount, and were trying to get a good warp-in on us (they got very close several times, had probes out constantly and keeping an eye on nearby wrecks) because in all honesty if they'd been able to land on top of us just once with points we'd have been dead there. And on top of that everyone was just having great fun, there was alot friendly chatter in local and private convo's during and after.
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Corewin
NoD Imperium
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Posted - 2011.01.06 09:34:00 -
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Originally by: chatgris
Originally by: Corewin It sounds like and looks like a completely unorganized mess on the CalMils part. Its as if someone in the Caldari fleet was actually suggesting that things were going well. Far from it.
My best guess is they stayed on the field since they outnumbered us anywhere between 2:1 - 4:1 throughout that fight.
Well then that just sounds like half the people present from CalMil in Tama weren't even in fleet and were just told to "COME TO TAMA QUICK"
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SaltyandSweet
Amarr Steady Mobbin
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Posted - 2011.01.06 10:03:00 -
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Originally by: Damar Rocarion
Originally by: Corewin It sounds like and looks like a completely unorganized mess on the CalMils part.
Seems so (I was not present). I cannot believe people in militia channel actually said it was awesome fight or had fun there.
Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
dude not everyone is as big a ***** as you are bro, nobody cares asmuch as you do when it comes to kills and losses they just have a good time so why dont you go eat ****? or stick t sucking eachothers ****s in villore?
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Corewin
NoD Imperium
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Posted - 2011.01.06 10:06:00 -
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Originally by: SaltyandSweet
Originally by: Damar Rocarion
Originally by: Corewin It sounds like and looks like a completely unorganized mess on the CalMils part.
Seems so (I was not present). I cannot believe people in militia channel actually said it was awesome fight or had fun there.
Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
dude not everyone is as big a ***** as you are bro, nobody cares asmuch as you do when it comes to kills and losses they just have a good time so why dont you go eat ****? or stick t sucking eachothers ****s in villore?
Chillax bro, everyone has their own opinion in general. I like to have fun in Eve too, but even I think that this was a pretty poor Caldari performance.
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Idicious Lightbane
Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2011.01.06 10:12:00 -
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While the battle report might be fairly lopsided the actual engagement wasn't a turkey shoot by any means, considering they were constantly doing fleet warps in and out to try and get on top of us and get us tackled they were all in fleet and on comms. We had some amazing logi pilots and very good fleet coordination, it could have very easily gone south if anything had gone wrong on our part.
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SaltyandSweet
Amarr Steady Mobbin
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Posted - 2011.01.06 10:13:00 -
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my hat is off to the caldari for sticking and fighting more than i can say to any pies or OTHER caldari militia corps.....
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Aerilis
Gallente Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2011.01.06 10:13:00 -
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Looks like a Chatgris led pack of Gallente nano BC's.
Seriously, what happened to the good ol' Brutix blobs? I'm disappointed in my militia :(
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Eva Valeer
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Posted - 2011.01.06 10:30:00 -
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Edited by: Eva Valeer on 06/01/2011 10:33:48
What an outsider gets from all this
1. caldari militia is full of idiots flying mission fit drakes 2. gallente militia and various pirates farm them for killmails 3. gallente give fake props and gfs to the caldari even tho the caldari won't engage without favorable numbers (despite flying pieces of crap)
In the end the only people who are both competent and honest are the pirates 
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SaltyandSweet
Amarr Steady Mobbin
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Posted - 2011.01.06 10:41:00 -
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way to show supreme idiocy and lack of sportsmanship.
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Evil Angel69
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Posted - 2011.01.06 11:23:00 -
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That was an awesome fight and i had my (hands?) full with the scimitar repping our guys, it did seem to get more disorganized on the caldari side as things progressed. But props to the FC for focus fire and a good fight all around. I know i would not want to FC for 3+ hours.
Hats off to chatgris for leading our side aswell some of the best fc'ing ive experianced. And more props to other combat a logistics aswell awesome job done by all.
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Eva Valeer
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Posted - 2011.01.06 11:29:00 -
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Edited by: Eva Valeer on 06/01/2011 11:34:12
Originally by: SaltyandSweet way to show supreme idiocy and lack of sportsmanship.
Oh please, cut the crap.
There's nothing sporting about beating down on opponents who have no idea whats actually going on. Of course there's nothing wrong with this since EvE isn't supposed to be fair but pretending its some kind of epic fight is just funny. There are guys who ride in helicopters and shoot at caribou with high-powered rifles. I'm sure if you asked one of them he would actually look you in the eyes with a straight face and say "I'm a hunter" but do you actually think he believes it himself? Pirates might say "gf" in local but they don't make threads like this or even worse actually convince the bear they just ganked it was an "epic fight". Then again faildari are probably dumber than the average carebear.
Originally by: Evil Angel69 That was an awesome fight and i had my (hands?) full with the scimitar repping our guys, it did seem to get more disorganized on the caldari side as things progressed. But props to the FC for focus fire and a good fight all around. I know i would not want to FC for 3+ hours.
Hats off to chatgris for leading our side aswell some of the best fc'ing ive experianced. And more props to other combat a logistics aswell awesome job done by all.
lol sounds like some stage performance not a fight in EvE
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Aerilis
Gallente Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2011.01.06 11:46:00 -
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Edited by: Aerilis on 06/01/2011 11:48:21 You're a ****. Yeah this fight seems pretty lopsided, but some of the best fights I've enjoyed have been ones where we've been thoroughly stomped.
Just a couple examples: 1. Holding out heavily outnumbered Alamo style in RRBS on a gate, eventually going down when we ran out of cap boosters. 2. Leeroying into enemy fleets in full gank unrigged cruisers and totally dying in a fire.
I would have thoroughly enjoyed this fight even if I was on the Caldari side. Killmails aren't everything for everyone.
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praznimrak
Gallente Level Up
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Posted - 2011.01.06 11:51:00 -
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Now it should be done every weekend but in frig size ships and clash ammar-caldari militia vs gall-min militia.Imagine 1000 frigs fight raging in Tama for hours.All standard fleet stuff, primary calling from fc and stuff would be replaced fore pure dog fight ....awsommmmmm. And cheap fun.
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SaltyandSweet
Amarr Steady Mobbin
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Posted - 2011.01.06 12:17:00 -
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Originally by: Eva Valeer Edited by: Eva Valeer on 06/01/2011 11:34:12
Originally by: SaltyandSweet way to show supreme idiocy and lack of sportsmanship.
Oh please, cut the crap.
There's nothing sporting about beating down on opponents who have no idea whats actually going on. Of course there's nothing wrong with this since EvE isn't supposed to be fair but pretending its some kind of epic fight is just funny. There are guys who ride in helicopters and shoot at caribou with high-powered rifles. I'm sure if you asked one of them he would actually look you in the eyes with a straight face and say "I'm a hunter" but do you actually think he believes it himself? Pirates might say "gf" in local but they don't make threads like this or even worse actually convince the bear they just ganked it was an "epic fight". Then again faildari are probably dumber than the average carebear.
Originally by: Evil Angel69 That was an awesome fight and i had my (hands?) full with the scimitar repping our guys, it did seem to get more disorganized on the caldari side as things progressed. But props to the FC for focus fire and a good fight all around. I know i would not want to FC for 3+ hours.
Hats off to chatgris for leading our side aswell some of the best fc'ing ive experianced. And more props to other combat a logistics aswell awesome job done by all.
lol sounds like some stage performance not a fight in EvE
point is they didnt run like a buch of *****es like im sure you would. its ok tho i understand the ***gotry of most in eve. i think it was a good fight dont act like such a homo, personally i lost 4 ships in that fight did i care no i didnt i came back for more as did they.
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Isaac Avernas
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2011.01.06 12:27:00 -
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The recent surge of FW trolling/bashing in Warfare and Tactics is really getting old. If your some butthurt pie or somebody go post about it in C&P though I'm sure they will just tell you to use some lube next time. I mean even "FW sucks, stop playing it" Guy thinks it has the potential to be be "awsommmmmm".
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Bunzan Cardinal
Ascendent.
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Posted - 2011.01.06 13:07:00 -
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confirming that you can in fact have fun even when you lose ships.
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Bluejacket CT
Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2011.01.06 15:20:00 -
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Originally by: Aerilis good ol' Brutix blobs?
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Zeerover
Wolfsbrigade
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Posted - 2011.01.06 16:28:00 -
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A battlereport of The Alamo in Tama - having fun when things become ******ed:
Last night we form up the usual late shift patrol. We quickly kill any target in Tama and head off on a roam. Coming up to Heydelies we banter in local about finding nothing to fight... turns out we would.
A few minutes later scouts report a 30 man fleet is heading right for us. We're in Abune and get stuck, but managed to find and fight our way out, and head back to Tama.
In the process we get new people into the fleet. Our numbers rise to 51 (which was the max in fleet during the whole fight). It's divided into two wings, with the primary wing sitting on the Kedama gate at optimal. Gallente jump in. We kill them and hold the field - a brief sense of victory, but spirits are high!
Some good pilots have to leave fleet for RL reasons as our numbers fall a little. Then the Gallente come back, and an epic fight of willpower & attrition begins.
They are using their now familiar kiting tactics against our Drake/Cane heavy gang. We have a mix of veteran and new players, but it doesn't hamper us in the start. The initial battle goes well, but things start to lag. We warp on top of them, they burn to 70k. Their Lachesis'es are key to holding onto a single friendly while their fleet pounds. We kill their long range tacklers, but they keep reshipping in new ones. Both sides reship and resupply several times. Ship types become more random, we become a militia:)
Then Pirates appear. They are in few numbers and get dispatched by whichever fleet is closest, though I see they get counted on our side in the eve-kill battlereport.
Lag starts to become hard for any player that still has brackets on. I'm unable to have anything showing except war targets. I ask for people to broadcast the close wrecks to get a fleet warp-in. It's during one of these that we notice that someone in a carrier has joined our fleet...
Gallente manage to burn out as we land over and over, by now we're starting to see which pilots to repeatedly kill, and which we're unable to unless we land on top of them. Excellent piloting on their part considering that fatigue must be setting in on all sides. As the second hour draws to a close we're starting to get continuously outmaneuvered, and we're now gone from winning to losing badly.
So we go back to a rallying point to build up numbers again. We won't give up on holding the field though. There's billions in loot on it. People not get forever to rally up. It becomes a battle of willpower. Calls go out for X'es on all channels, even general militia, we get some people, our fleet swells back to 46, sadly half never fight in any organized fashion
We continue fighting and we lose many ships, though we have many kills in this last period. It went full ******. All experienced pilots on fleet voice stare at the battlefield in disbelief, the newbies ask "this normal for you guys?".
In the end it becomes apparent we cannot hold the field by willpower alone, and have to call it quits.
The final battlefield had wrecks stretching 750km from the gate in one direction and 300km in the other. We killed 76 and lost 186 by the last BR.
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Zeerover
Wolfsbrigade
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Posted - 2011.01.06 16:28:00 -
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We were soundly beaten in the end, but we also felt happy. All in fleet agreed it was more fun than we've had in months, and it was incredible learning experience in attrition battles in high-lag environments. Few of us had experience with 3 hours of continuous fighting. Now 40 more CalMil fighters have.
My hat is off to Chatgris for leading our enemies. Never seen anything like it. Kiting and maneuvering non-stop for 3 hours. I'm waiting with bated breath for that video. Also thanks to the Gallente militia members to gave us loot from the battlefield after the fight.
To our fleet members, thank you. It was a blast. When we do this again, we'll be the winning side:)
To our detractors. Keep theorycrafting, we'll be fighting! Though you might be right, since fools rush in where angels fear to tread, the experience our newer fleet members gained today will bear plenty of fruit for the Caldari Militia in the future.
I was repeatedly being called primary for about a third of the fight, and spend a lot of time warping between tacticals and off field with secondary taking over. Now I need to go run missions for 4-5 hours to replace the 3BS, 1 HAC, 1 Recon & 2 BC's I lost. Leading by example I guess, even in losses.
To all who partook on all sides: True Gladiators you are! Damn I love Faction War.
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Zeerover
Wolfsbrigade
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Posted - 2011.01.06 16:39:00 -
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Oh and Wolfsbrigade is recruiting 
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