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Margret Putnam
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Posted - 2010.08.30 13:30:00 -
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Edited by: Margret Putnam on 30/08/2010 13:35:27 [Rifter, New Setup 1] Damage Control II 200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Small Armor Repairer II
1MN Afterburner I Warp Scrambler I Stasis Webifier I
200mm AutoCannon II, Barrage S 200mm AutoCannon II, Barrage S 200mm AutoCannon II, Barrage S Rocket Launcher II, Gremlin Rage Rocket
Small Projectile Ambit Extension I Small Projectile Ambit Extension I Small Projectile Collision Accelerator I
Medium slots are all tier 1 due to CPU issues. Even using the all v's character in EFT I would need to put in a 5% CPU implant to use T2 mods, which I don't believe are THAT much more worthwhile.
DPS is 112/s, and my optimal range for guns with barrage is out to 12 KM, tho max range for the scram is 7.5 KM. I normally would orbit at about 7 KM out to keep all ewar active.
Effective HP is 3729, while cap lasts 45 seconds.
Thoughts?
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Sutskop
PILSGESCHWADER
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Posted - 2010.08.30 13:55:00 -
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So you don't have a whole lot of dps, buffer, or sustained cap. I would concentrate on one (damage mod, eanm, small nos - something along these lines). Use meta 3 or 4 in the mids. Should use less cpu and perform better.
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Akisawa
Caldari Path Of The Cursed
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Posted - 2010.08.30 14:03:00 -
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Edited by: Akisawa on 30/08/2010 14:04:03 pretty much standard survival tackler/solorunner fit if you lack skills to fit all of it, you may want to change to cold-gas AB, j5b scrambler and x5 webifier respectfully, much better effects and less CPU usage if you can fit, change rocket launcher for small NOS - will let you run tank longer, and let you keep point even while neuted. rockets suck as they are, and if you planning to pirate in that rift, you would want NOS. and dont use Barrage, use republic ammo...
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Dray
Caldari Euphoria Released HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.08.30 17:51:00 -
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Edited by: Dray on 30/08/2010 17:52:35 If you fancy a shield buffer, use the neut as you see fit or drop it to upgrade to 200mm AC.
[Rifter, **** Pipe] Nanofiber Internal Structure II Damage Control II Gyrostabilizer II
Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters Warp Scrambler II Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Small Core Defence Field Extender I Small Core Defence Field Extender I
110 dps neut and faction EMP, 122 with 200 AC's and no neut, 1211m/s, and 5357 ehp, more if you go all extender rigs.
Cap stable without neut, 1m30s with neut.
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Intigo
Amarr Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.08.30 18:06:00 -
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Edited by: Intigo on 30/08/2010 18:07:13 That is pretty much the standard AB 200 SAR Rifter.
Why are you using T1 mods in your mids? Meta mods or T2.
Also, you could fit 2 damage mods (burst + collision) instead of the 2 ambit + 1 dmg rig combination, but if you want to kite at range then this works too.
Originally by: Sutskop So you don't have a whole lot of dps, buffer, or sustained cap. I would concentrate on one (damage mod, eanm, small nos - something along these lines).
Sssscchhh. The fit posted is tried and tested, your advice is bad. ___________________
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Sutskop
PILSGESCHWADER
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Posted - 2010.08.30 18:15:00 -
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Edited by: Sutskop on 30/08/2010 18:15:36
Originally by: Intigo Sssscchhh. The fit posted is tried and tested, your advice is bad.
I would love to see it tried, tested, and failing against the shield rifter in this very same thread :p
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Akisawa
Caldari Path Of The Cursed
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Posted - 2010.08.30 19:11:00 -
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Originally by: Sutskop Edited by: Sutskop on 30/08/2010 18:15:36
Originally by: Intigo Sssscchhh. The fit posted is tried and tested, your advice is bad.
I would love to see it tried, tested, and failing against the shield rifter in this very same thread :p
Well, the shield rifter above needs some little tweaking, but with that said tweaking done, it will **** pretty much any armored one and this shield one too =)
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Intigo
Amarr Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.08.30 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: Sutskop Edited by: Sutskop on 30/08/2010 18:15:36
Originally by: Intigo Sssscchhh. The fit posted is tried and tested, your advice is bad.
I would love to see it tried, tested, and failing against the shield rifter in this very same thread :p
Hey, look how stupid you are!
The shield fit has no range dictation. You probably don't know what that means, but who do you think will control the range the fight is fought at if one party has a web and the other doesn't? Bingo, the web one!
What does that mean? That means the AB Web Rifter with Ambits (hey +falloff) and higher tier guns (200s) will kite at a range that puts him outside neut range and in an area where he can tank the other Rifter a fair bit.
And if he actually ends up going too low, guess what he can do? He can run away! Because of...oh what was that expression again, it's such a common thing in frigate combat...oh right, range dictation! So he's never in the slightest bit of danger because he's flying a fit that is tried, tested and extremely versatile.
Look how stupid you are! ___________________
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Margret Putnam
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Posted - 2010.08.30 20:47:00 -
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Originally by: Intigo
Originally by: Sutskop Edited by: Sutskop on 30/08/2010 18:15:36
Originally by: Intigo Sssscchhh. The fit posted is tried and tested, your advice is bad.
I would love to see it tried, tested, and failing against the shield rifter in this very same thread :p
Hey, look how stupid you are!
The shield fit has no range dictation. You probably don't know what that means, but who do you think will control the range the fight is fought at if one party has a web and the other doesn't? Bingo, the web one!
What does that mean? That means the AB Web Rifter with Ambits (hey +falloff) and higher tier guns (200s) will kite at a range that puts him outside neut range and in an area where he can tank the other Rifter a fair bit.
And if he actually ends up going too low, guess what he can do? He can run away! Because of...oh what was that expression again, it's such a common thing in frigate combat...oh right, range dictation! So he's never in the slightest bit of danger because he's flying a fit that is tried, tested and extremely versatile.
Look how stupid you are!
Who says PVP is ingame only. ;) Thanks for the words.
I dropped the rocket/nos because their range sucked. I fully plan on orbiting at 10KM away, webbing the crap out of them, and stuck in a ABII and web II with my newly freed up cpu/grid space.
since most of the time i don't expect a lot of damage, my cap should be ok, i'll only turn on the ARII if i get badly dinged, otherwise I am stable.
Cheers!
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Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
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Posted - 2010.08.30 23:06:00 -
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[Rifter, RvB T2] Small Armor Repairer II Damage Control II 200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1MN Afterburner II F-392 Baker Nunn Tracking Disruptor I, Tracking Speed Disruption J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion S 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion S 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion S Small Diminishing Power System Drain I
Small Projectile Metastasis Adjuster I Small Projectile Metastasis Adjuster I Small Projectile Collision Accelerator I
The TD Rifter is great fun.
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Jabru
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.08.31 07:03:00 -
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[Rifter, pvpv1] Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Small Armor Repairer II 200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Warp Disruptor II Micro Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 200 1MN MicroWarpdrive I
150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 'Malkuth' Rocket Launcher I, Gremlin Rocket
Small Projectile Ambit Extension I Small Projectile Burst Aerator I Small Trimark Armor Pump I
I use something like this for taclking in a gang, sometimes i drop the burst rig for another trimark.
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AstarothPrime
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Posted - 2010.08.31 09:56:00 -
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Originally by: Sutskop So you don't have a whole lot of dps, buffer, or sustained cap. I would concentrate on one (damage mod, eanm, small nos - something along these lines). Use meta 3 or 4 in the mids. Should use less cpu and perform better.
Yup
To keep the price / usability down id say:
meta 3 scram meta 2 web meta 3 AB
That should allow you to fit something useful to that last high slot you have. Maybe even a neut?
I.
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AstarothPrime
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Posted - 2010.08.31 10:08:00 -
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Plus Id lose that tungsten plate. And fit OD or preferably a gyro.
That little more buffer isnt relevant and its just slowing you down. If your AR cant tank it long enough youre good as dead anyways.
I.
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Lugalzagezi666
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Posted - 2010.08.31 10:36:00 -
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Without that plate you wont survive taking some range from ranis for example...
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Psiri
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Posted - 2010.08.31 10:39:00 -
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Edited by: Psiri on 31/08/2010 10:38:52
Originally by: Intigo Hey, look how stupid you are!
The shield fit has no range dictation.
Uh, I'm sorry but you're just being daft. A shield buffer fit is fast enough to get a scramble on most frigs, once in scramble range it's not as easy to get out as you may think, opponent having web or no web. If someone keeps you at range and tries to kite, you still do good damage and your passive shield regen will suddenly come into great effect.
Sure, the occasional Rifter may be able to pull away, tell me when I'm s'posed to care?
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Intigo
Amarr Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.08.31 10:47:00 -
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Originally by: AstarothPrime Plus Id lose that tungsten plate. And fit OD or preferably a gyro.
That little more buffer isnt relevant and its just slowing you down. If your AR cant tank it long enough youre good as dead anyways.
I.
Stop posting. ___________________
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Akisawa
Caldari Path Of The Cursed
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Posted - 2010.08.31 10:55:00 -
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Originally by: Intigo
Originally by: AstarothPrime Plus Id lose that tungsten plate. And fit OD or preferably a gyro.
That little more buffer isnt relevant and its just slowing you down. If your AR cant tank it long enough youre good as dead anyways.
I.
Stop posting.
Err, your HAVE to buffer it anyhow, be it plate or shield But I would certainly LOVE to catch your rifter with 1 small AR as tank
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Margret Putnam
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Posted - 2010.08.31 13:35:00 -
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I think people miss the point of this fit. Its meant as a 1 v 1 frig fit, and it's tank is distance. The ARII is not meant to be primary tank, its meant to be there in case your opponent somehow gets close enough to hurt you.
But if you keep them away from you, they can't hurt you. Not many frigs can do much against you from 9 km away.
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Akisawa
Caldari Path Of The Cursed
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Posted - 2010.08.31 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: Margret Putnam I think people miss the point of this fit. Its meant as a 1 v 1 frig fit, and it's tank is distance. The ARII is not meant to be primary tank, its meant to be there in case your opponent somehow gets close enough to hurt you.
But if you keep them away from you, they can't hurt you. Not many frigs can do much against you from 9 km away.
Well if you plan to orbit stuff at 9km, fit 9km scrambler at least :/
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