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omgfreemoniez
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Posted - 2010.05.30 21:18:00 -
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Out of a Sniper Cerberus or a Sniper Ishtar, which would you rather use and why?
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Pistrik
Minmatar Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2010.05.30 21:18:00 -
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Muninn
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omgfreemoniez
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Posted - 2010.05.30 21:19:00 -
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Muninn's fine if all your skillpoints arent in missiles and drones.
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arbiter reborn
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Posted - 2010.05.30 21:27:00 -
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they are such totaly different ships they arnt easly comparable. curators and bouncers are just so mean and the mix of tank choices on the ishtar is great too
id say generally cerb if you dont have logis ishtar if your logi heavy because it can slug it out better. missiles dont lag out as bad as drones but then flight time is an issue. its personal taste i fly both and i just kinda know when each would be usefull.
id say the cerb is more of a true sniper tho
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Lugalzagezi666
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Posted - 2010.05.30 21:34:00 -
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Cerb. You just need to select your targets wisely /= not primaries/.
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.05.30 21:35:00 -
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Cerb over Ishtar tbh, managing drones while sniping and aligning out = meh
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arbiter reborn
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Posted - 2010.05.30 21:37:00 -
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Originally by: Lugalzagezi666 Cerb. You just need to select your targets wisely /= not primaries/.
depends on the size of the gang really. but also cost is an issue.
leaving 5 bouncer IIs behind the first time might not bother you but twice in a fight and youre out!
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Annie Anomie
Gallente Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2010.05.30 21:52:00 -
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Cerb imo because it's actually adding some utility to the gang (they're great at missiling support to death) rather than just being worse than the gun boats.
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Eli Porter
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Posted - 2010.05.30 23:05:00 -
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Random gatecamp killmail whoring=Ishtar Gangs=Cerb
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Harotak
THE FINAL STAND The Final Stand.
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Posted - 2010.05.30 23:47:00 -
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Guardian support: Ishtar Scimitar support: Cerb
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Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2010.05.31 00:24:00 -
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Cerb, since picking up your sentries in a sniper shootout is typically the last thing you do before waking up in the clone bay.
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Celeritas 5k
Caldari Destry's Lounge Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2010.05.31 03:58:00 -
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My cerb is named "falcon repellant"
I hear the eagle's a pretty wicked sniper, haven't tried one out though. - NEVER PVP SOBER. |
eXtas
NibbleTek
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Posted - 2010.05.31 10:40:00 -
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moonin, zealot, eagle none hac's: cane, harb, ferrox
anything else in a sniper hac gang just adds worthless numbers.
ishtar would be ok if you wouldn't lose a set of drones everytime you warp out cerb, target should be long way before missiles gets there if the gang knows how to shoot primery. you might say its good vs frigs but turret sniper hac's murder frigs.
bring a dictor or takling inty and be usefull for gang if you cant fly the right ship! |
raukosen
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Posted - 2010.05.31 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz Cerb over Ishtar tbh, managing drones while sniping and aligning out = meh
This
Mobility is key in sniperfights, you should never not be aligning
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BuckStrider
HeartVenom Inc. Imperial 0rder
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Posted - 2010.05.31 14:07:00 -
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Originally by: Celeritas 5k My cerb is named "falcon repellant"
I hear the eagle's a pretty wicked sniper, haven't tried one out though.
Eagle is probably the worst of all sniper hacs.
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Kenpotchi
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Posted - 2010.05.31 17:53:00 -
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Edited by: Kenpotchi on 31/05/2010 17:53:48 Zealot > Muninn > Cerb > Eagle > Ishtar
This is my opinion OFC. The Zelot is faster, has more EHP, uses no ammo, and has more DPS but less volley then the Muninn.
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Ap0ll0n
Gallente Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.31 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: BuckStrider
Originally by: Celeritas 5k My cerb is named "falcon repellant"
I hear the eagle's a pretty wicked sniper, haven't tried one out though.
Eagle is probably the worst of all sniper hacs.
No it's not. Better than Deimos and actually does more damage at 90-100km than zealot, while having slightly more agility and ehp, but less speed. Can't compare to Muninn since i've never flown it..
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FlameGlow
Rebellion Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.31 21:03:00 -
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Edited by: FlameGlow on 31/05/2010 21:04:28
Originally by: Ap0ll0n
Originally by: BuckStrider
Originally by: Celeritas 5k My cerb is named "falcon repellant"
I hear the eagle's a pretty wicked sniper, haven't tried one out though.
Eagle is probably the worst of all sniper hacs.
No it's not. Better than Deimos and actually does more damage at 90-100km than zealot, while having slightly more agility and ehp, but less speed. Can't compare to Muninn since i've never flown it..
How? Even 3*magstab + 2*tacking comps eagle shooting guardian thorium to that range still gets less dps then 2*heatsink+2*tracking enhancer zealot using aurora. The only thing that is much better on eagle is tracking, like 2.5 times more then any other; but at 100 km it's mostly irrelevant.
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Byzan Zwyth
Firebird Squadron
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Posted - 2010.05.31 22:06:00 -
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if those were my options I'd find another role to play in the gang or train something that can be of use. Sig removed. Lacks EVE related content. For more information feel free to contact [email protected]. ~Saint |
JITAALT5
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Posted - 2010.05.31 22:42:00 -
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Originally by: FlameGlow Edited by: FlameGlow on 31/05/2010 21:04:28
Originally by: Ap0ll0n
Originally by: BuckStrider
Originally by: Celeritas 5k My cerb is named "falcon repellant"
I hear the eagle's a pretty wicked sniper, haven't tried one out though.
Eagle is probably the worst of all sniper hacs.
No it's not. Better than Deimos and actually does more damage at 90-100km than zealot, while having slightly more agility and ehp, but less speed. Can't compare to Muninn since i've never flown it..
How? Even 3*magstab + 2*tacking comps eagle shooting guardian thorium to that range still gets less dps then 2*heatsink+2*tracking enhancer zealot using aurora. The only thing that is much better on eagle is tracking, like 2.5 times more then any other; but at 100 km it's mostly irrelevant.
Yeah, zealot is easily the highest DPS sniper HAC, but an eagle with navy thorium still gets more DPS than a muninn with far superior tracking to either and the option of doing damage out to 200km. Muninn still beats out the eagle with its drone bay, capless guns, and delicious alpha. I'd rate the sniper HACs as zealot=muninn>eagle>cerb>>deimos>ishtar.
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M'ktakh
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Posted - 2010.06.01 01:29:00 -
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Originally by: eXtas moonin, zealot, eagle none hac's: cane, harb, ferrox
anything else in a sniper hac gang just adds worthless numbers.
ishtar would be ok if you wouldn't lose a set of drones everytime you warp out cerb, target should be long way before missiles gets there if the gang knows how to shoot primery. you might say its good vs frigs but turret sniper hac's murder frigs.
bring a dictor or takling inty and be usefull for gang if you cant fly the right ship!
He is a revolutionary idea: try to calculate fly time into the equation when flying missile ships, aka, shoot the secondary/tertiary targets.
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Ap0ll0n
Gallente Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.02 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: FlameGlow Edited by: FlameGlow on 31/05/2010 21:04:28
Originally by: Ap0ll0n
Originally by: BuckStrider
Originally by: Celeritas 5k My cerb is named "falcon repellant"
I hear the eagle's a pretty wicked sniper, haven't tried one out though.
Eagle is probably the worst of all sniper hacs.
No it's not. Better than Deimos and actually does more damage at 90-100km than zealot, while having slightly more agility and ehp, but less speed. Can't compare to Muninn since i've never flown it..
How? Even 3*magstab + 2*tacking comps eagle shooting guardian thorium to that range still gets less dps then 2*heatsink+2*tracking enhancer zealot using aurora. The only thing that is much better on eagle is tracking, like 2.5 times more then any other; but at 100 km it's mostly irrelevant.
Its good cause it does 239 dps @ 92km wth good tracking. Using T2 LR ammo in sniperhacs in laggy fleets s bad, as T2 LR ammo wont track fast support properly.
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