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Zeturi
Caldari 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.01.10 01:57:00 -
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Originally by: Vuk Lau As much as I am sure that GM team is doing awesome job in handling empire and billing petitions, they are constantly craping all over 0.0 dwellers.
Their total incompetence in 0.0 issues, starting from simple reimbursement petitions up to serious business sov issues is not even funny anymore. I tried as CSM delegate to pursue this issue, but I realized its pointless. They just simply 1. Dont give a **** about 0.0 cause we present only 5% of their customers 2. Even when they give a **** they are completely clueless about their game (its not just the GM teams who are clueless they have more then couple of devs who doesnt even realize what is 0.0 about and how it works)
They will pull heads of their asses only when we start canceling our accounts or start crashing Jita on daily basis.
Before all Goons/NC/Pl haters start trolling, in last year I was involved in more GM ****ups which affected our hostiles then our allies.
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Greg DaimYo
Caldari Biotronics Inc. Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.01.10 01:58:00 -
[152]
Jesus Christ. I am out of this ****.
I don't care wether CCP will continue to rip off customers, but this **** is sick.
Have fun throwing money out of your window. o/
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Sidus Sarmiang
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.10 02:00:00 -
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Originally by: Marlona Sky
Originally by: riverini NOT A SINGLE PRONOUNCEMENT ON BEHALF OF CCP,
IT'S TIME TO TAKE THE FINGER OUT OF UR BUTTS AND SAY SOMETHING ****ING CCP!!!!!
****! FIRST WE DON'T GET AMBULATION, NOW THIS!!!! WHAT'S NEXT? A CCP CONSOLE ONLY SHOOTER?
Look, CCP made EVE-Online to be a PvP game. So carebears owning stations goes against the theme of the game. CCP are simply correcting some aspects of the game.
You will be able to make enough ISK doing high sec level 4 missions to buy P.L.E.X. and you wont have to quit game. If you need help with the missions there are plenty of people that can help you out in Motsu and some other systems I hear.
I was talking to nineteen other goons and I guess the point is that seven said you guys're pretty terrible in spite of all the carebear stuff you say.
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Miss Deana
Amarr Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.01.10 02:09:00 -
[154]
Originally by: Varesk so none of you checked the station after the attack to see if it repaired itself before the station and system was taken over?
just wondering, because if someone would have taken the time to check it, you could have filed a petition and had it fixed.
From what I've understood of this the station was untargetable before the placement of the SBU, it was working as per the old system before the rep change. When the SBU was placed it worked according to the new system and had not been repped so it could be taken.
WI or the aggressors could thus not know of this until the actual attack took place and it was then easy to take as WI was counting on a few more invulnerability timers for defense. |
Funkcikle
Gallente DEATHFUNK Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.10 02:41:00 -
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yup, thanks very much ccp atlas from everyone here in atlas, giving us our ships back when we exploded was just the icing on the cake, heres to more exploit drivenj victorys against the pvp powerhouse that Is WI, we coudn't have done it without you guys.
Still its far from over, these guys have epic amounts of forum power, and as well all know thats a strong indicator of ingame pvp power, so as its all out in the open now if you could fix it for all their ships to become horrible mismatched t1 half sniper half rr fits, and swap out every 4th ship for something totally useless, whilst supergluing the Mighty WI capfleet to their hanger floors we might just stand a chance.
Oh also could u fix it for us to have a system called 4cums because i find that sort of thing hilarious
Luv Funk
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Marlona Sky
Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.10 02:44:00 -
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Originally by: Sidus Sarmiang
Originally by: Marlona Sky
Originally by: riverini NOT A SINGLE PRONOUNCEMENT ON BEHALF OF CCP,
IT'S TIME TO TAKE THE FINGER OUT OF UR BUTTS AND SAY SOMETHING ****ING CCP!!!!!
****! FIRST WE DON'T GET AMBULATION, NOW THIS!!!! WHAT'S NEXT? A CCP CONSOLE ONLY SHOOTER?
Look, CCP made EVE-Online to be a PvP game. So carebears owning stations goes against the theme of the game. CCP are simply correcting some aspects of the game.
You will be able to make enough ISK doing high sec level 4 missions to buy P.L.E.X. and you wont have to quit game. If you need help with the missions there are plenty of people that can help you out in Motsu and some other systems I hear.
I was talking to nineteen other goons and I guess the point is that seven said you guys're pretty terrible in spite of all the carebear stuff you say.
your trying too hard...
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Trebor Notlimah
Gallente Lone Star EVE Group Veni Vidi Vici
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Posted - 2010.01.10 03:59:00 -
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Originally by: Greg DaimYo Jesus Christ. I am out of this ****.
I don't care wether CCP will continue to rip off customers, but this **** is sick.
Have fun throwing money out of your window. o/
Stop trying to be a martyr. It wont work. Its going to take an organized subscriber strike to make a difference. Come on NC, go on strike and hurt CCP's wallet. We can all go play something else for a month. 10,000 unsubscriptions = Loss of $150,000/month. COME ONE!
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darkfuntime
Minmatar Fat J Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.01.10 04:33:00 -
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page five,ccps still sucking
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NightmareX
Caldari Infinitus Odium Scum Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.10 04:48:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 10/01/2010 04:51:12
Originally by: darkfuntime page five,ccps still sucking
LOL, i think you sucks more, because this is not page 5.
And also, cry me a river WI / NC. Do you really know how fun it is to watch all of your whines and all of the crying on CAOD from you guys?.
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darkfuntime
Minmatar Fat J Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.01.10 04:58:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 10/01/2010 04:51:12
Originally by: darkfuntime page five,ccps still sucking
LOL, i think you sucks more, because this is not page 5.
And also, cry me a river WI / NC. Do you really know how fun it is to watch all of your whines and all of the crying on CAOD from you guys?.
Just a preview for page 5
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Alice Pink
Amarr Lone Star Joint Venture Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.01.10 05:04:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 10/01/2010 04:51:12
Originally by: darkfuntime page five,ccps still sucking
LOL, i think you sucks more, because this is not page 5.
And also, cry me a river WI / NC. Do you really know how fun it is to watch all of your whines and all of the crying on CAOD from you guys?.
CCP is deleting critical posts -- go check eve-search (noob).
Also as someone who was briefly in S****before WI., let me go ahead and say
HAR HAR HAR.
(Anyone who's ever had any interaction with S****in any capacity knows exactly what I mean).
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Trebor Notlimah
Gallente Lone Star EVE Group Veni Vidi Vici
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Posted - 2010.01.10 05:06:00 -
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Originally by: Alice Pink
CCP is deleting critical posts -- go check eve-search (noob).
Censorship FTL.
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NightmareX
Caldari Infinitus Odium Scum Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.10 05:15:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 10/01/2010 05:18:01
Originally by: darkfuntime
Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 10/01/2010 04:51:12
Originally by: darkfuntime page five,ccps still sucking
LOL, i think you sucks more, because this is not page 5.
And also, cry me a river WI / NC. Do you really know how fun it is to watch all of your whines and all of the crying on CAOD from you guys?.
Just a preview for page 5
LOL, good reply back though, i must admit that.
But anyways. I don't think this kind of topic is a good way to make your alliance look good though.
Crying like the op in this topic means one thing. Weakness all over the alliance. Yes i say weakness to WI because i think most of the players that are or have been in 0.0 space have been killed by bugs and all other stupid things like that many times and never have got anything back from CCP.
I was once killed in my Hurricane in 0.0 space when i was shooting one Deimos. The Deimos tanked the whole fleet i was in, and while he was tanking us, then 7 other ships warped in on us to kill us, and they did that.
But there was one problem. I did only see the Deimos. I just started to take some crazy amount of damage. And it was because the 7 other ships that warped in on us started to shoot me.
And i did only see the Deimos. So yes, i was desynched to hell and back. So no, i didn't got anything back from the petition.
And guess what. Yes CCP admitted it earlier that there was a problem on their side that caused alot of desync.
See where i'm going now ?.
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dracice
Gallente R.E.C.O.N. Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2010.01.10 05:16:00 -
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wow people complaining about ccp customer service, (which actually doesn't exist)
but only complaining when it affects them.
no one cares. Yes CCP sucks, they admit too.
eve will go on without 0.0 and without you.
probably ccp's way of telling you to go outside and enjoy sunshine or sledding or whatever.
im in the tropics so sunshine for me.
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Lucututerian
Minmatar D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.10 05:18:00 -
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Originally by: Marlona Sky
Originally by: riverini NOT A SINGLE PRONOUNCEMENT ON BEHALF OF CCP,
IT'S TIME TO TAKE THE FINGER OUT OF UR BUTTS AND SAY SOMETHING ****ING CCP!!!!!
****! FIRST WE DON'T GET AMBULATION, NOW THIS!!!! WHAT'S NEXT? A CCP CONSOLE ONLY SHOOTER?
Look, CCP made EVE-Online to be a PvP game. So carebears owning stations goes against the theme of the game. CCP are simply correcting some aspects of the game.
You will be able to make enough ISK doing high sec level 4 missions to buy P.L.E.X. and you wont have to quit game. If you need help with the missions there are plenty of people that can help you out in Motsu and some other systems I hear.
Marlona you made my day with this post, MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ^^ i wet my self loughing
WAR IS BAD, BUT THE SOUND IS COOL!! |
Alice Pink
Amarr Lone Star Joint Venture Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.01.10 05:48:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX ...
You make a good point about individual petitions. Unfortunately it seems that when the game is broken on a larger scale, the only way to get CCP to take action is to name and shame (see ITs thread just a few weeks ago that got IHub exploiting...called an exploit).
I like fights. I've enjoyed beating back the Solar/Atlas incursions, both before and after Dominion. That's not what this thread is about.
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NightmareX
Caldari Infinitus Odium Scum Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.10 06:05:00 -
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Originally by: Alice Pink
Originally by: NightmareX ...
You make a good point about individual petitions. Unfortunately it seems that when the game is broken on a larger scale, the only way to get CCP to take action is to name and shame (see ITs thread just a few weeks ago that got IHub exploiting...called an exploit).
I like fights. I've enjoyed beating back the Solar/Atlas incursions, both before and after Dominion. That's not what this thread is about.
Like the game wasn't more broken earlier when we all had the desync problem. I know this and i'm sure you know that to, but there was TONS of TONS of topics about desync and that here on the forum earlier from angry pilots who have lost ships after ships to desync. But CCP never did anything to give the ships back to the players who have died to desync.
So before CCP admit anything that there was something faulty on their side, you can just forget it to get anything back. And when they finally admit it eventually, then it have gone 6 months++++ and you wont get the ships or anything else back that you lost over 6 months earlier.
Crying on the forum like the OP in this topic, WONT help much. Because if there is a problem, then CCP will know about it from others who have sent petitions and so on. So it doesn't really help much to cry on the forum.
Just send them petitions about what really happened and explain in details on what you did and so on, and why you think it's a bug. And then CCP will look into it when they feel for it. They wont look into this any faster just because someone is crying in CAOD.
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Nikodiemus
Caldari Lone Star Joint Venture Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.01.10 06:06:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 10/01/2010 05:28:11
Originally by: darkfuntime
Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 10/01/2010 04:51:12
Originally by: darkfuntime page five,ccps still sucking
LOL, i think you sucks more, because this is not page 5.
And also, cry me a river WI / NC. Do you really know how fun it is to watch all of your whines and all of the crying on CAOD from you guys?.
Just a preview for page 5
LOL, good reply back though, i must admit that.
But anyways. I don't think this kind of topic is a good way to make your alliance look good though.
Crying like the op in this topic means one thing. Weakness all over the alliance. Yes i say weakness to WI because i think most of the players that are or have been in 0.0 space have been killed by bugs and all other stupid things like that many times and never have got anything back from CCP.
I was once killed in my Hurricane in 0.0 space like a year or so ago when i was shooting one Deimos. The Deimos tanked the whole fleet i was in, and while he was tanking us, then 7 other ships warped in on us to kill us, and they did that.
But there was one problem. I did only see the Deimos. I just started to take some crazy amount of damage. And it was because the 7 other ships that warped in on us started to shoot me.
And i did only see the Deimos. So yes, i was desynched to hell and back. So no, i didn't got anything back from the petition.
And guess what. Yes CCP admitted it earlier that there was a problem on their side that caused alot of desync.
See where i'm going now ?.
I totally concur that your loss of a hurricane as a result of lag and desync is absolutely comparable to outpost sov taken on a bug and used as an exploit.
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NightmareX
Caldari Infinitus Odium Scum Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.10 06:25:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 10/01/2010 06:29:26
Originally by: Nikodiemus I totally concur that your loss of a hurricane as a result of lag and desync is absolutely comparable to outpost sov taken on a bug and used as an exploit.
Uhm, the desync thing was a bug on CCP's side. Even if lag was involved for the desync, it's still a nasty nasty bug.
I could also call the desync thing for an exploit at some points, because the enemies could find out if we was desynched or not, and they could take an advantage over us if we are desynced.
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Meno Theaetetus
Gallente Wildly Inappropriate Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.01.10 07:11:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 10/01/2010 06:29:26
Originally by: Nikodiemus I totally concur that your loss of a hurricane as a result of lag and desync is absolutely comparable to outpost sov taken on a bug and used as an exploit.
Uhm, the desync thing was a bug on CCP's side. Even if lag was involved for the desync, it's still a nasty nasty bug.
I could also call the desync thing for an exploit at some points, because the enemies could find out if we was desynched or not, and they could take an advantage over us if we are desynced.
Congratulations sir, I am very impressed with your poasting style and would like to offer you a position in our prestigious wi caod poasting department.
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airdefense
Caldari H A V O C Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.01.10 07:28:00 -
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Originally by: Bonzoli Sadly I am taking resubscribe off my 3 accounts. Planetside again, below average support, patches, and game redesign. I can get this from any game. So you have my vote Tomcat.
I'll of course support our efforts until that timer runs out. But I can not in good faith continue to pay for a game with such lackluster support.
- Bonzoli
Can i have your accounts?
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davefromdevelopment
Caldari Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2010.01.10 07:41:00 -
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You know you couldve anchored your own sbu and repped the station right
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Gorefacer
Caldari Resurrection Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2010.01.10 07:48:00 -
[173]
Originally by: Shigsy We doing the whole quote the same message for emphasis now? Cool.
"You can't reason someone out of a belief they haven't reasoned themselves into" - Prometheus |
Shander Maxum
Gallente The 5th Freedom Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.01.10 08:27:00 -
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Edited by: Shander Maxum on 10/01/2010 08:30:15 Boycotting won't work...(except as a matter of principal ) and the real goal is to have them improve some service aspects, not to give up the hobby.
The best way to get the attention to having technical issues fail gracefully without bias (if they need to fail at all) and to get the message that transparency, consistency, predictability, and proactivity in game refereeing actions are needed would be to take the lists of inadequacies frequently to other gaming forums and ranking sites everywhere.
I think thatÆs the best chance of making a $ reason to steer more $ resources into the appropriate response and player communication departments.
And I think its a legitimate and moral response as long as any comments on other gaming sites remain as close as possible to how a player writing such comments sees the facts and issues. Let people respond there with ôQQ me an waambulanceö and other sort of low class stuff and that will light the fire under cccpÆs butts to make the changes even higher priority to shut that even worse marketing impression up.
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Trebor Notlimah
Gallente Lone Star EVE Group Veni Vidi Vici
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Posted - 2010.01.10 08:48:00 -
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Originally by: Shander Maxum Edited by: Shander Maxum on 10/01/2010 08:30:15 Boycotting won't work...(except as a matter of principal ) and the real goal is to have them improve some service aspects, not to give up the hobby.
Ok keep throwing you $15/month into the CCP black hole and lose a few dozen more titans. I wish I could write ****ty software and have customers refuse to stop paying for it. CCP really has your nuts in the jar now.
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Shander Maxum
Gallente The 5th Freedom Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.01.10 08:56:00 -
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Originally by: Trebor Notlimah
Originally by: Shander Maxum Edited by: Shander Maxum on 10/01/2010 08:30:15 Boycotting won't work...(except as a matter of principal ) and the real goal is to have them improve some service aspects, not to give up the hobby.
Ok keep throwing you $15/month into the CCP black hole and lose a few dozen more titans. I wish I could write ****ty software and have customers refuse to stop paying for it. CCP really has your nuts in the jar now.
Truly funny cause its probably got too much truth in it.. and i've played less that a year.
It is a good point ... well I can pay with isk for awhile
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ArmyOfMe
Caldari The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2010.01.10 10:17:00 -
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Originally by: Vuk Lau Free Plague Black
i can agree with most of what u said vuk, but not the above quoted bit
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Matata Hakuna
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.10 11:29:00 -
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So much ignorance in this thread. Let's set the facts straight:
1. 5% of EVE is 0.0 - Ah the biggest lie ever. Even CCP is not aware of how false this statement is as. 90% of economy works for 0.0 so do your math again before you come up with "0.0 is not that important". Imagine the consequences on EVE if 0.0 stopped existing. 2. CCP can do something about current problems - Eh! You wish! CCP is "doing scrum", unfortunately in totally wrong fashion. Their QA team is too small and too strained to be able to do anything smart about what their developers are throwing out into production. The result is ever increasing technical debt. They do not have it under control, they can only try to ease some of the symptoms, like throwing more powerful hardware on it whenever they can afford it. In the end CCP will be forced to re-write EVE to be able to handle large fleet fights the way they promised it should work.
So even if you were to bring Jita down every day or leave the game CCP would be powerless (and clueless) to do anything about it. Let me spell the obvious to you: EVE is dead (in the form we play it now).
Now CCP how about that EVE FPS for consoles since you can't do any better?
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NightmareX
Caldari Infinitus Odium Scum Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.10 11:35:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 10/01/2010 11:35:22
Originally by: Meno Theaetetus
Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 10/01/2010 06:29:26
Originally by: Nikodiemus I totally concur that your loss of a hurricane as a result of lag and desync is absolutely comparable to outpost sov taken on a bug and used as an exploit.
Uhm, the desync thing was a bug on CCP's side. Even if lag was involved for the desync, it's still a nasty nasty bug.
I could also call the desync thing for an exploit at some points, because the enemies could find out if we was desynched or not, and they could take an advantage over us if we are desynced.
Congratulations sir, I am very impressed with your poasting style and would like to offer you a position in our prestigious wi caod poasting department.
Thank you for your kind words.
But the whole point is that even if it was a bug from the beginning of when desync was found, and even if i would see it as an exploit in some situations, i never did got anything back when i lost ships to desync. I don't even think you will get anytrhing back even today if it's because of desync. But correct me if i'm wrong about that.
So the whole thing is, even if you know it's a bug and even when you might see this as an exploit, it doesn't mean you will get anything of what you lost back.
I would rather say that fight back and use the same tactic against Tri and friends on taking a station. But ofc, that all depends on how many you have in your gang and so on.
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King Dave
Gallente The Viral Coercion Phenomenon
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Posted - 2010.01.10 11:44:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX
But the whole point is that even if it was a bug from the beginning of when desync was found, and even if i would see it as an exploit in some situations, i never did got anything back when i lost ships to desync. I don't even think you will get anytrhing back even today if it's because of desync. But correct me if i'm wrong about that.
So the whole thing is, even if you know it's a bug and even when you might see this as an exploit, it doesn't mean you will get anything of what you lost back.
I would rather say that fight back and use the same tactic against Tri and friends on taking a station. But ofc, that all depends on how many you have in your gang and so on.
****OFF TOPIC WARNING****
I swear all you ever do on these forums is defend the points you make, because everyone proves them wrong.
"Evil Edna > just get director roles, put child **** in the corp bio and then petition ccp" |
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