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Crying Reaper
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Posted - 2009.12.28 00:45:00 -
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This thred is dedicated to remembering BorisHotch and how he has helped so many people through out EVE. Feel free to post any comments about our dear friend Boris and lets hope he comes back to the game sooner rather then latter.
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Freidrich Nietchize
Gallente Capitalist Pigs Inc.
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Posted - 2009.12.28 00:59:00 -
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Edited by: Freidrich Nietchize on 28/12/2009 00:59:56 Boris will be missed. His dedication to helping newbies learn the ins and outs of carebearing has been felt across Eve. I hope the channel will continue to provide support for new players as it has in the past. The channel has an will continue to be my home as long as it exists.
per boris, fly safe, and be carebearful :)
edit: he's not dead crying, he's just done with Eve ================================================ Ceiphied > Server-side dual-hamster support is supposed to be implemented about the same time we get the ability to walk in stations |
Kyoujin Choujin
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Posted - 2009.12.28 01:07:00 -
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boris is an example to all who played eve, he will surely be missed and i hope he returns to the flock of carebears soon :)
he helped allot of ppl newb or not, he is a kind and loving player hope hes back soonish.
regards KYO
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Joe Dante
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Posted - 2009.12.28 01:07:00 -
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To Boris, a true philantraphist, helper of teh newb, and all round decent chap. C'mon back when you feel that eve urge, because we all know, it never goes away! :)
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L0adi3
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Posted - 2009.12.28 01:08:00 -
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I haven't been playing EVE long, but once I met Boris I felt that i had met someone whose answers I could trust. EVE will be a poorer place without Boris
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bananamana
Caldari HelpMyMissioners
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Posted - 2009.12.28 01:09:00 -
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It's a shame that traps (the really awesome players) deccked a group of guys who aim was to help others in the game for no profit. Its a real shame that the game dynamics alows corporations like this to take away from people who putted in a positive input in the game. Its a real pitty that other people's actions dictate other peoples responses in the game, we are a missioncorp but we had to turn our hand to pvp to defend what we like to achieve in the game wich is to help out others.
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NUKUNNI TRADING
Amarr Grand.Theft.Auto
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Posted - 2009.12.28 01:13:00 -
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Shame if it's right.
I suspect that Boris just had too much festive spirit, hooked up with the 26 year old oral hygenist from No 15, and is taking a few days off eve (as a second job) just as we have in RL.
IF you are feeling a bit down with the game Boris, talk to the people in channel, there are many here who like and respect you in game, and will help if we can. There is after all more than one way to skin a cat. Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist |
Marcoss Black
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Posted - 2009.12.28 01:14:00 -
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I raise a drink to Boris. I'm only playing a few months and he and HMM have been a great help. It is a shame that someone who gave time to help both noobs and experience players for no personal gain got run out of the game. Real-life rules be damned. Someone like Boris should get looked after.
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JoeBear770
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Posted - 2009.12.28 02:02:00 -
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Thanks to Boris for many things; A great concept in HMM, a great channel as well, excellent podcast-fun and informative, and being an all around great guy. Even my car pooling buddy who doesn't play Eve enjoys listening to Boris from the Missions Collide show! Come back soon m8, you are missed!
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DenShou
Gallente Wolves of Fenrir High Guard Council
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Posted - 2009.12.28 04:06:00 -
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Boris will be missed,
I am new to the channel, but I have seen this happen before. Where someone who has a great idea puts it in place, but then get overwhelmed by the baggage that ends up coming with it.
I few things to note, He never said he wasn't coming back. He needed a break for a while. He plans on buying a steering wheel on the 27th.(tomorrow on twitter)
My complaint, Dammit one more podcast possibly lost.
Good luck Boris hardly knew ya hope to see you soon.
~Tos ~ #### Faith can move mountains.... of Inventory - Rule #104 Ferengi Rules of Acquisition |
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Airborne Legoholic
Caldari Caldari Innovative Sciences and Engineering
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Posted - 2009.12.28 05:00:00 -
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I remember way back when I was only a month old, having hell payed while trying to run a bonus room of an AE L3.... And now 2 years later I am still a faithful member of what we know as HMM - It will just not be the same without Boris popping in to make some funny comment, and ultimately start a convo about our poo (HMM inside joke).
We will miss the Boris!
AL.
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Spurty
Caldari Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.12.28 05:33:00 -
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Originally by: Airborne Legoholic It will just not be the same without Boris popping in to make some funny comment, and ultimately start a convo about our poo (HMM inside joke).
clearly inside, justva bit too inside for my tastes
Boris whoever you are, you are missed, mostly your "sun don't shine" regions apparently
Originally by: Hurley I WAS NOT QUITTING SoT AND WAS NOT THINKING ABOUT JOINING IT. PL/SoT MADE A MISTAKE AND ARE NOT MAN ENOUGH TO ADMIT IT OR FIX IT.
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FunzzeR
Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2009.12.28 05:48:00 -
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Whos Boris? PRAISE THE SCOTTISH FOLD!! |
Naughtious
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Posted - 2009.12.28 17:55:00 -
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Boris is a first class capsuleer, who brought thousands of people together under the banner of the HelpMyMissions chan, who's creedo was purely that of help. He started small helping others with their mission problems and eventually with the help of others built a website http://www.helpmymission.co.uk/ and a regular podcast http://www.missionscollide.com/
If your a noob mission runner or even a hardened vet - you will prolly find something useful at those sites.
I really hope he's just taking a break, we all know how demanding Eve can be especially if your dedicated.
Boris you have my deepest respect and thanks.
I really hope we see you again.
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Zeredek
Gallente Red Federation
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Posted - 2009.12.28 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: FunzzeR Whos Boris?
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jiantsquidz
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.12.28 18:24:00 -
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Boris you are a stand up guy and a help to anyone who asks for it. Never one to burden everyone else with your problems but always happy to listen to all the problems in HMM. Eve has lost one of its great assets with your departure, and me as a corpmate and as a fellow HMM channel member will definitely miss having you around. Come back to the light soon friend , it just isnt the same without you.
jiantsquidz
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Ryhss
Caldari The Templar Navy
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Posted - 2009.12.28 18:43:00 -
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Only been playing 9 months, who's Boris? Billy Corgan is dating Jessica Simpson, my cousin has dubbed the celeb couple "Smashing Dumbkins".
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Grimpak
Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.12.28 19:15:00 -
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only been playing for 6 years.
who the hell is boris? ---
Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
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Buff Nerfmeyer
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Posted - 2009.12.28 19:35:00 -
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While we praise disgusting missionrunning carebears, Chepe Nolon and his EVE-Survival project should get honourable mention as well.
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Par'Gellen
Gallente Tres Hombres Psychiatric Hospital Uno Chica Loco
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Posted - 2009.12.28 20:01:00 -
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For those that don't know, BorisHotch is a great guy that started a chat channel in game called HelpMyMission. It is for people that need help with particularly hard missions as well as general sillyness. It's a great place to hang out and the only thing they don't like talked about (understandably) is war deccing and stealing and general pirate asshattery.
He also produced a bi-weekly mission oriented podcast with Song Li (another terrific guy).
I knew about the war dec HMM corp received but I didn't know until today that it had pushed Boris over the edge (I may be wrong here, someone correct me if I am since I haven't had a chance to play in a few days what with the holidays and all). I know a lot of asshats think Eve is just Quake In Space (*sigh*) but to a lot of us it's much more than that. I can fully understand the frustration Boris feels at CCP for allowing such crap to exist. As if there wasn't plenty of room for the PvP'ers to go play in low sec and 0.0 already... To be completely honest I find it sad that so much of humanity use the anonymous nature of the Internet to inflict pain on others for kicks.
Boo CCP for catering to those types! You've really lost a pillar of your community today. If you knew him you would feel nothing but shame. ---
To err is human but it shouldn't be the company motto...
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namelessclone01
Caldari blackbox ops
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Posted - 2009.12.28 20:37:00 -
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i knew Boris from the earliest day of this HMM project, and although i was never active within the channel, i have sent quite a few lost carebear souls to that channel.
i was always amazed at his dedication and the amount of work he was willing to do in order to help others.
Boris, good luck to you, mate. i know you will come back. eve is a drug. ;)
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Moonasha
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Posted - 2009.12.28 21:04:00 -
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Who's Boris?
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valiare
Gallente HelpMyMissioners
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Posted - 2009.12.28 22:48:00 -
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Boris buddy we need ya :)
eve is a bad place without u *prrrrt who farted?* http://www.jgr-hq.dk/ |
Elemental Dark
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Posted - 2009.12.28 22:55:00 -
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Dont leave Boris or at least come back soon !
I need somone to Q my urges to randomly splurge a few mill on the lottery , without you I shall be broke !!
also the helping hand on missions and fittings might be a reason to !
ED
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Lord Windu
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.12.28 22:59:00 -
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Boris used to touch me in my special place and said if I told I would need to be punished. I am glad he has gone and now I can move on without fear. ------
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Swiftgaze
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Posted - 2009.12.28 23:05:00 -
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I am Boris!
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Jin Leegai
LaughingGirls.jpg Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.28 23:06:00 -
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did he drop any good loot?
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Kaylee Juuna
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Posted - 2009.12.28 23:07:00 -
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can I have his stuff?
sounds like a rich bastard
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Sokrateeze
Minmatar Ultima Ratio Res Publica
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Posted - 2009.12.28 23:08:00 -
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Originally by: Jin Leegai did he drop any good loot?
Civilian Miner
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2009.12.29 07:08:00 -
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He wasn't much of a diplomat I can tell you that much. He was also a prejudiced person, banning me from their help channel without reason. He also let's his corp sit and smack talk in that channel as well, which I guess is why he blocked us.
Not a word from him about the war. Some of his corp convoes me asking to negotiate, the rest sit and convo to smack talk. I like that his corpmates dislike him so much they email all their internal emails, including the one where he says goodbye and leaves them in a lurch. Instead of helping during the war, he logs into his alt to mine in Taru while everyone else dies.
I am not buying the peaceful defenseless mission corp either. Not when his guys are running around in a Curse smacktalking like nobody's business. I've never seen anyone run missions in a Curse. I have an alt that used to run missions. He never needed any HACs to run them.
They had a chance to surrender for a measly 150mil and passed it up and decided that smacktalk would be a better route. According to some of his corpmates, it's not goodbye, it's good riddance.
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Naughtious
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Posted - 2009.12.29 07:34:00 -
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Edited by: Naughtious on 29/12/2009 07:36:31 ah one of the TARP monkies that formed a corp to war dec and blackmail all of Boris's alts - because one of their members got removed for violating the Helpmymission chan rules.
I have just donated 500mil to HMM's war chests.
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Voddick
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Posted - 2009.12.29 07:49:00 -
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When I was a frigate flying n00b and needed help with missions BorisÆ channel was there.
A great group of pod pilots eager to fly 20j to help out a rookie while asking for NOTHING in return. That kind of spirit was fantastic and made me a channel dweller since. I wish Boris happy gaming in whatever heÆs playing now, and hope he will one day return to EVE and HMM.
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Alderon Mizuchi
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.12.29 08:49:00 -
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While I'm sure Boris was a great guy, I can't help but laugh at the people bashing CCP for allowing war decs. Being a "nice" corp doesn't give you immunity to PvP, sorry guys.
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The PitBoss
Caldari Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.29 09:06:00 -
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Shoulda hired us when the going got tuff ... running all those missions should make most pvpers weep at the size of your wallet ...
Contact me when you come back boris ...
Thank-You,
The Pitboss (Space between The & Pitboss)
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Joe Astor
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Posted - 2009.12.29 09:20:00 -
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Edited by: Joe Astor on 29/12/2009 09:24:32 Will miss you Boris...at least til you return.
You'll be back, they always come back
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Plave Okice
Krazny Oktyabr Revolyutsiya
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Posted - 2009.12.29 09:25:00 -
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Never heard of the dude, but it sounds like one more carebear griefed out of the game so it's all good.
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Banstyle
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Posted - 2009.12.29 09:39:00 -
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I thought someone had died. Rage quitters FTL. |
Fille Balle
Ballbreakers R us
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Posted - 2009.12.29 13:44:00 -
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Originally by: The PitBoss Shoulda hired us when the going got tuff ... running all those missions should make most pvpers weep at the size of your wallet ...
Contact me when you come back boris ...
That's where you "anti-carebear" crowd get it wrong every single time. Sure, some very few carebears have a lot of isk saved up, but most of them don't. They usually spend their isk helping others, which is what Boris did. Besides, if you think mission running is the most profitable activity in eve, then you're less intellegent then I initially estimated.
OT: If you're reading this, I'm sad to see you leaving Boris, even though I plan to leave myself. You are one of the few people that actually added something to new eden, and helped make it a nice place to live for many. If you do come back I probably won't see you again, so I guess this is goodbye.
o7 best of wishes Boris, and gl with any future ventures you might undertake!
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Mozohl
Amarr Mausoleum Business Services
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Posted - 2009.12.29 13:57:00 -
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I joined the Helpmymission channel just yesterday. And to be frank I didnt even know about your existence until the ppl in the channel mentionned this post yesterday. But these people have been really helpful to me, and for that I am really thankful for what you have created, it's a brilliant idea.
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Jezebel Baily
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Posted - 2009.12.29 14:03:00 -
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Originally by: Fille Balle Besides, if you think mission running is the most profitable activity in eve, then you're less intellegent then I initially estimated.
Boy, yous doin' something MIGHTY wrong then..
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2009.12.29 14:54:00 -
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Originally by: Naughtious Edited by: Naughtious on 29/12/2009 07:36:31 ah one of the TARP monkies that formed a corp to war dec and blackmail all of Boris's alts - because one of their members got removed for violating the Helpmymission chan rules.
I have just donated 500mil to HMM's war chests.
Hehe, what a waste, you could have paid us that to stop killing them.
I'd love to see proof of one of my guys violating the channel rules. Several of HMM told me that but couldn't supply proof. Seems no one can.
I am guessing you're a HMM alt. It's all good though. We will see how they like it during the 3rd month of the war. I am sure they will hire mercs, jump corp or join an alliance at some point. That's usually what smacktalking carebears do.
Either way, Boris is a poor ceo. He never once contacted us, instead several of his members keep convoing me asking us to end the war. The others sit and smacktalk nonstop. He never policed his members or enforced the corps rule of no smack talk.
I don't see how these guys are broke. I've seen them missioning in the same system for 3 years. Where does the money go? Oh well, it's fine by me. We will make it our mission to keep them from missioning and to make their help channel available to all people who need it without them making up stories of people abusing the rules.
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Fille Balle
Ballbreakers R us
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Posted - 2009.12.29 15:21:00 -
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Originally by: Jezebel Baily Boy, yous doin' something MIGHTY wrong then..
No you. Unless you know a way to make 500mil per hour doing missions without even undocking, then by all means
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Irida Mershkov
Gallente Honour Before Death Nominis Expers
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Posted - 2009.12.29 15:21:00 -
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Jezebel Baily
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Posted - 2009.12.29 15:30:00 -
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Edited by: Jezebel Baily on 29/12/2009 15:30:02
Originally by: Fille Balle
No you. Unless you know a way to make 500mil per hour doing missions without even undocking, then by all means
Oh I see, you're one of "those" people.
You're right. lvl 4 highsec missions are definitely NOT the easiest and safest way to earn bucketloads of isk for just about anyone who's played for 3 weeks.
What was I thinking? All the cool cats own a half-dozen dyspro moons. Poor mission runners are just barely getting by.
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Serpents smile
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Posted - 2009.12.29 15:44:00 -
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You know, getting OT here, but theses 'carebears' running missions usually have great gunnery+ tanking skills. Maybe, just maybe, instead of looking down upon them, you should try to get them join your cause. Whatever that may be.
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Binding Dark
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Posted - 2009.12.29 15:46:00 -
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Gotta love a few of the kills from traps , they is awsume !!!!
http://traps.griefwatch.net/?p=details&kill=6709
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Jezebel Baily
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Posted - 2009.12.29 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: Serpents smile You know, getting OT here, but theses 'carebears' running missions usually have great gunnery+ tanking skills. Maybe, just maybe, instead of looking down upon them, you should try to get them join your cause. Whatever that may be.
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Originally by: Binding Dark http://traps.griefwatch.net/?p=details&kill=6709
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2009.12.29 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: Binding Dark Gotta love a few of the kills from traps , they is awsume !!!!
http://traps.griefwatch.net/?p=details&kill=6709
More alt smacktalk! Go figure.
That actually was an awesome kill. That guy smacktalked constantly, then jumped corps 10 times, ran out to low sec, hired protection, then jumped into an NPC corp and went mining while we were in system. I took his ore and he agressed. It made no sense. Do all that running, all that smack talk, and never fight only to get into a mining BS and engage.
He is very similar to these guys. Smack talk, run, hide, maybe fight on occasion, but mostly dock and smack. They fail to realize how tenacious we are. Look at this guy.
I love his comment after he dies....
valiare > never though u guys would go 16 jumps to find me lol
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Fille Balle
Ballbreakers R us
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Posted - 2009.12.29 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Jezebel Baily Oh I see, you're one of "those" people.
You're right. lvl 4 highsec missions are definitely NOT the easiest and safest way to earn bucketloads of isk for just about anyone who's played for 3 weeks.
What was I thinking? All the cool cats own a half-dozen dyspro moons. Poor mission runners are just barely getting by.
Funny that, 'cause last time I checked, you actually need to move the moon materials in order to sell them... which means you need to undock. You're right, it does male better profits, but nope, not that one. Try again.
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Jezebel Baily
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Posted - 2009.12.29 17:43:00 -
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Ok I'll admit I'm confused now. So you're badmouthing carebears who don't undock and who have lots of isk because they don't run missions because missions have a crap isk per hour ratio because Privateers posted in a thread about a guy named boris ragequitting over a wardec because you have to undock and since he had so much isk that he never undocked and was making millions an hour by not undocking because mission runners are poor from giving away all their isk he didn't undock and was in no danger of being shot at?
Whew. I think that cleared it up for me actually!!!
BYE BORIS WE MISS U
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Naughtious
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Posted - 2009.12.29 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: Nexa Necis
Originally by: Binding Dark Gotta love a few of the kills from traps , they is awsume !
He is very similar to these guys. Smack talk, run, hide, maybe fight on occasion, but mostly dock and smack. They fail to realize how tenacious we are. Look at this guy.
I love his comment after he dies....
valiare > never though u guys would go 16 jumps to find me lol
FUNNY... HMM isn't actually a corp but a help channel - 99% of the people like me who hang there, do so because we like it there - with no corp ties or restrictions. Some people regularly travel 20 jump plus just to help others on their missions with no thought of reward. Imagine if these dedicated people - some who like me have had a small pvp background, and have access to a bit of isk come hunting TARP and it's dependants.
I suggest TARP continues on a very long campaign.
Tho HMM admin might tell me to *SHH* cos HMM is about missions, help and chilling in the chan.
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FunzzeR
Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2009.12.29 18:37:00 -
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Originally by: Naughtious
Originally by: Nexa Necis
Originally by: Binding Dark Gotta love a few of the kills from traps , they is awsume !
He is very similar to these guys. Smack talk, run, hide, maybe fight on occasion, but mostly dock and smack. They fail to realize how tenacious we are. Look at this guy.
I love his comment after he dies....
valiare > never though u guys would go 16 jumps to find me lol
FUNNY... HMM isn't actually a corp but a help channel - 99% of the people like me who hang there, do so because we like it there - with no corp ties or restrictions. Some people regularly travel 20 jump plus just to help others on their missions with no thought of reward. Imagine if these dedicated people - some who like me have had a small pvp background, and have access to a bit of isk come hunting TARP and it's dependants.
I suggest TARP continues on a very long campaign.
Tho HMM admin might tell me to *SHH* cos HMM is about missions, help and chilling in the chan.
TARP = Treasury Asset Repurchase Program? PRAISE THE SCOTTISH FOLD!!
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2009.12.29 19:10:00 -
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Originally by: Naughtious
FUNNY... HMM isn't actually a corp but a help channel
If they are not a corp, how were we able to dec them? Please explain.
Originally by: Naughtious [ - 99% of the people like me who hang there, do so because we like it there - with no corp ties or restrictions.
Yeah, I read the channel chat, have for ages. I especially like when people complain about ninja looters and salvagers who then get killed for agressing and all the silly "tips" everyone gives on proper PvP fits and tactics.
Originally by: Naughtious [Some people regularly travel 20 jump plus just to help others on their missions with no thought of reward. Imagine if these dedicated people - some who like me have had a small pvp background, and have access to a bit of isk come hunting TARP and it's dependants.
You don't have to imagine it. We can make it come true. We have for over 3 years and have a blast doing it.
I think the HMM channel is a catalog of sorts. You can pick lots of fun war targets in there. We already got a good list of very juicy targets. Lot's of which will just be infiltrated with alts and killed while missioning in their faction Nightmares.
Originally by: Naughtious
I suggest TARP continues on a very long campaign.
Excellent suggestion!
Originally by: Naughtious [Tho HMM admin might tell me to *SHH* cos HMM is about missions, help and chilling in the chan.
I doubt it. I've read channel chat and you guys go crazy with smacktalk lots of times.
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Naughtious
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Posted - 2009.12.29 19:43:00 -
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http://traps.griefwatch.net/?p=losses
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Freidrich Nietchize
Gallente Capitalist Pigs Inc.
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Posted - 2009.12.29 19:52:00 -
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I hate to reply to this thread again but I think I should try to clear a few things up. First off, I don't believe Boris 'rage quit'. He's taken a hiatus or two recently. I feel it's most likely that he's just tiring of the game. I don't know a lot about the HMM corp, but I do know many of the people in the channel don't regularly farm lvl 4s. Many of our members are either very new to the game or very new to PVE. That's the point of the channel and probably the corp too; to help people. I don't think Boris had any intentions to be a great leader or organizer. He wanted to play the game how he enjoys it (just like the rest of us). So to me, calling him out for jumping on an alt when his corp that is devoted to helping people gets wardecd is like wardecing a corp of jita trade alts and then complaining they don't undock. that's just kinda how it works. Also, I have never seen anyone banned from the HMM channel who didn't deserve it (read: broke the rules) ================================================ Ceiphied > Server-side dual-hamster support is supposed to be implemented about the same time we get the ability to walk in stations |
bananamana
Caldari HelpMyMissioners
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Posted - 2009.12.29 20:22:00 -
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Edited by: bananamana on 29/12/2009 20:24:04
Originally by: Nexa Necis
Originally by: Naughtious Edited by: Naughtious on 29/12/2009 07:36:31 ah one of the TARP monkies that formed a corp to war dec and blackmail all of Boris's alts - because one of their members got removed for violating the Helpmymission chan rules.
I have just donated 500mil to HMM's war chests.
Hehe, what a waste, you could have paid us that to stop killing them.
I'd love to see proof of one of my guys violating the channel rules. Several of HMM told me that but couldn't supply proof. Seems no one can.
I am guessing you're a HMM alt. It's all good though. We will see how they like it during the 3rd month of the war. I am sure they will hire mercs, jump corp or join an alliance at some point. That's usually what smacktalking carebears do.
Either way, Boris is a poor ceo. He never once contacted us, instead several of his members keep convoing me asking us to end the war. The others sit and smacktalk nonstop. He never policed his members or enforced the corps rule of no smack talk.
I don't see how these guys are broke. I've seen them missioning in the same system for 3 years. Where does the money go? Oh well, it's fine by me. We will make it our mission to keep them from missioning and to make their help channel available to all people who need it without them making up stories of people abusing the rules.
U got banned for a valid reason otherwise u wouldnt get banned, only thing ur proving now is why u got removed in the first place. All u do is using hmm channel for picking easy targets, thats a valid reason alone. Btw you wont get payed off the wardec. Telling people that we where asking you to drop is it is a lie, we told you that you can buy off the wardec by paying us 300mil.
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Cailais
Amarr Diablo Advocatus Rogue Elements.
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Posted - 2009.12.29 20:24:00 -
[57]
Even as a PVP'er I enjoyed the "missions collide" pod cast and hopefully it will continue in some for or other.
Sounds like Boris just had a bit of burn out and like most players will take a break from EVE for a while which is pretty sensible really.
On side note it appears TARP are an active PVP corp in high sec so Im sure they'll get some attention from other PVP corps in Empire looking for a fight so good news for them aswell
C.
Originally by: Capa So if you wake up one morning and it's a particularly beautiful day, you'll know we made it.
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comrade captain
HelpMyMissioners
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Posted - 2009.12.29 20:25:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Nexa Necis
Originally by: Naughtious
FUNNY... HMM isn't actually a corp but a help channel
If they are not a corp, how were we able to dec them? Please explain.
Originally by: Naughtious [ - 99% of the people like me who hang there, do so because we like it there - with no corp ties or restrictions.
Yeah, I read the channel chat, have for ages. I especially like when people complain about ninja looters and salvagers who then get killed for agressing and all the silly "tips" everyone gives on proper PvP fits and tactics.
Originally by: Naughtious [Some people regularly travel 20 jump plus just to help others on their missions with no thought of reward. Imagine if these dedicated people - some who like me have had a small pvp background, and have access to a bit of isk come hunting TARP and it's dependants.
You don't have to imagine it. We can make it come true. We have for over 3 years and have a blast doing it.
I think the HMM channel is a catalog of sorts. You can pick lots of fun war targets in there. We already got a good list of very juicy targets. Lot's of which will just be infiltrated with alts and killed while missioning in their faction Nightmares.
Originally by: Naughtious
I suggest TARP continues on a very long campaign.
Excellent suggestion!
Originally by: Naughtious [Tho HMM admin might tell me to *SHH* cos HMM is about missions, help and chilling in the chan.
I doubt it. I've read channel chat and you guys go crazy with smacktalk lots of times.
Some smacktalk in there and i tried to stop that as best i can to make the channel a friendlier place, every channel needs some admin and moderation and its got me a wardec for wanting a nice relaxed channel for people to mission in.
You are just proving that you were in the channel in the 1st place for all the wrong reasons. You also werent on the Nexa Necis character because i never saw that character in the channel.
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jiantsquidz
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.12.29 20:35:00 -
[59]
Nexa Necis>I don't see how these guys are broke. I've seen them missioning in the same system for 3 years. Where does the money go? Oh well, it's fine by me. We will make it our mission to keep them from missioning and to make their help channel available to all people who need it without them making up stories of people abusing the rules.
Nexa Necis > I think the HMM channel is a catalog of sorts. You can pick lots of fun war targets in there. We already got a good list of very juicy targets. Lot's of which will just be infiltrated with alts and killed while missioning in their faction Nightmares.
Seems like a pardox here . You want to make the HMM channel available to all people using it, yet you have a list of HMM channel members lined up to target. Hmmmm.....
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Kamakazia
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Posted - 2009.12.29 20:40:00 -
[60]
Hi Nexa We've been having a good war so far and have taken a few losses which is to be expected being a mission and help corp. Big thanks to your members who've given us experience through the recent fights & of course yourself who we feel has given us plenty of attention & devotion through good & bad times. yours Zu..
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BorisHotch
HelpMyMissioners
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Posted - 2009.12.29 21:11:00 -
[61]
Hi all o/
Sorry I haven't said anything in here yet, but I've just heard about this thread from someone in Twitter.
I'd like to start by saying thanks for all the great coments and thought's I've read 8)
I think I should explain why I've decided to stop playing Eve, and also to answer a few of the statements made by Nexa Necis.
The war that my corp was in with TARP has had NO EFFECT WHATSOEVER with my decision for taking a break from Eve.
If I was that bothered about it, I don't think I would have spent the last few weeks getting several pvp ships setup to help out my corp (if any of your corp actually stopped docking whenever my corp started shooting yours).
The reason I have taken a break is that I've spent virtually all my time lately doing admin for the Helpmymission channel, and it feels like it's become more of a job than an actual game tbh. This is'nt helped with the fact that I've been doing 12 hour days at work for the last couple of months, so I'm actually physically knackered 8(.
I do agree that the war has been a pain, as it means I would not be able to help anyone if I was near them, which is actually what I really like doing in Eve. But, as many have said, Eve is a harsh place, even if I personally think it's a very lame thing to do (after all, theres always Lo sec / 0.0 if you wanted to do pvp , but that isn't a theory that CCP agrees with, so not much I can do about that lol).
Now to answer some of the points made by Nexa: I have never claimed to be a diplomat, and everyone who has joined my corp knows that I like to take a back seat in things with the corp, as the HMM channel takes up so much of my time.
That is why I leave the vast majority of Corp decisions to my set of Directors, who I trust, so I dont see there being a problem there, as I will be happy to go along with the decision made by the corp as a whole.
I don't quite understand the Alt mining in Taru part, as everyone in HMM knows the only Alt (who is actually in a different corp and on a 2nd account) is Borishotch2, who i've had for a year now. I only did the brief mining in Taru (1 night) while I was doing HMM admin on Boris1 so I thought I might as wel try to earn at least a little bit of isk that night. While Boris2 was doing that, Boris1 was sat in a PVP setup Geddon waiting for one of the TARP corp to actually log in in Amarr. Wouldn't quite class that as logging in with an alt while everyone else dies, but i'm no PVP expert so I could be wrong. If it is, then apologise to my corp mates as I didnt realise that I could shoot at wartargets while they were docked in a station or not actually logged in while doing things in RL.
On to the subject of using HAC's for missions, anyone who knows me or listens to the Missions collide Podcast will know how much I LOVE using an Ishtar for lvl 4 missions. Once again, if an Ishtar isn't a HAC (which I believe stands for Heavy Assault Cruiser) , then I apologise profusely for my ignorance.
As to the offer to recall the war for 150 Mil, I must apologise for the smacktalk, and the person in question has been told that we did not want any of that sort of talk to be done. My apologies for the uncouth behavior, and the person has been given 10 lashes with a very prickly stick.
Nearly ran out of letters, so will continue on a new reply
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BorisHotch
HelpMyMissioners
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Posted - 2009.12.29 21:31:00 -
[62]
As to you being barred from the HelpMyMission channel, it wasnt by me personally , as I've never actually seen you in there. If you were an Alt in there and was barred by one of the channel admins, then you probably werent the right sort of person to be in there anyway. I assume you were barred for breaking the channel rules, so I fully support the admin in question for doing such a good job.
We dont actually need to hire merc corps as I've personally been in several private convo's from very experienced 0.0 players happy to wardec you for free, as they werent happy about the situation, but i've told them it's not really their problem, but it's up to them if they read this I suppose 8)
I apologise for being a poor CEO, and for not contacting you, so I assume that actually means you (nexa) must also be a poor ceo, as i've never been contacted by you either, unless i'm misunderstanding something lol.
Btw, We havent been missioning in Taru for 3 years, as most of us only moved down there a couple weeks ago, tho I cant vouch for any of the other members of my corp who might well have been based around their in their previous corps, but I assume thats not actually what you're implying, so I dont really know what to say about their previous time in Eve. Even before then I haven't done much missioning for a long time due to the popularity of the HMM channel 8(. My wallet is far from large, being less than 100 mil atm if I remember right, as I seem to have this terrible problem of giving a lot of it away to help people out when they need it lol.
Anyway, to sum it up:
Me leaving Eve (temporarily) has nothing to do with being war decced, so it's in no way a rage quit. It's purely that the HMM channel has worn me out lately and with an extreme workload just making it even more tiring as well 8(
I look forward to returning in the future, and hope that the HMM channel continues to be a great help to a lot of people.
Boris 07
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bananamana
Caldari HelpMyMissioners
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Posted - 2009.12.29 22:28:00 -
[63]
Glad u posted here Boris, u actualy are a great ceo and the corp is beeing taken care of dont worry, hope ur back soon m8 as ur beeing missed. Just know that hmm channel and hmm corp is taken care off :) It will be there when ur back.
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Novon Toll
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Posted - 2009.12.29 23:11:00 -
[64]
<<Anyway, to sum it up: Me leaving Eve (temporarily)>>
That's the longest good bye I've read, you could of got away with just that last bit
Take a break and set a long skill. Take two aspirins and a Coke and you'll feel better in the morning.
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2009.12.29 23:43:00 -
[65]
HMM,
You seem to be typical carebears, at least most of you. Some seem ok. I don't know Boris, but I have seem him mining in Taru on an alt while we killed some of his guys.
I am well aware you demanded us to pay you to end the war. That makes no sense because I guarantee if we drop it, you wont redec us. Dont pay. It's fine by us. We will keep it on for months.
Your corpmates have convoed me and asked to negotiate a surrender. They also were mad that several of your corp, bananamana and Zuahna especially were sending me smackish emails and convoes asking for the war to continue and asking me to pay you guys a surrender fee.
He also told me that Zuahna is a moron who is the son of the account holder and how he is a 17 year old ****** who cares nothing of the corp and instead of working something out, he is egging it on.
I know a lot more. You guys brag and go on and on to anyone who will listen about stuff. So don't call me a liar saying no one from your corp convoed me and emailed me asking to negotiate a surrender where you pay us, not us paying you.
I even have a copy of Boris' farewell email to the corp. I can post parts of it here if you want. Then you will know I am not lying.
As far as war tactics go, just making snide comments about how we dont fight when outnumbered because we suck, and then you do the same thing when you're outnumbered, makes you look silly. We don't smack you for anything at all.
I have never said Boris left due to TRAPS. It's TRAPS btw not TARP. :) I know what it's like to be a CEO. It's a lot of work and when you're doing other stuff like managing a lottery and HMM channel, it can take some fun out of Eve for sure. We all need a break sometimes.
Just because you don't agree with our playstyle doesn't mean we're bad people. As you said, Eve can be harsh and it's up to you how you deal with it.
I never said you claimed to be a diplomat. However when you're the CEO you do have some responsibility to your corp. When your corpmates convo me asking for a surrender and you don't, and I ask them why isn't the CEO talking to me, they say, "He's busy and doesn't care because it doesn't affect him."
I don't need to convo you because I am happy leaving the war on indefinitely. So it's irrelevant to me whether or not I contact you. If you pay up,great, if not, great. So that is why you would be a poor CEO and I am not in that respect. If something goes on that would adversely affect my members as it does in your situation, I would definitely contact you to resolve it one way or another.
According to your corpmates, they have no idea what is going on. Some members are running off at the mouth claiming they want a fight, the others just want to get back to missioning or mining. We all know if you got a corp with mixed opinions, no ceo and a non-existant group of directors, it's not going to go far. Not usually anyway. Several members are upset they cant mission, some are fighting back and sometimes camping us in, but hey, that's war, we're used to it and don't mind it at all. You guys however are not the same as us. You prefer to mission and help people, which we will do everything we can to hinder that operation.
Again, if you got time to mine on the alt and not address your corpmembers concerns over the war, then to me, you're lacking a bit as a CEO. I had no clue about it till your corpmates filled me in on it.
Sure some people use Ishtars for a level 4 mission but I have never seen anyone run one in a Curse. Especially not when you've seen them missioning in the same ship for ages. Just because you haven't been in Taru forever doesn't mean I haven't noticed your members in various mission hubs.
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2009.12.29 23:49:00 -
[66]
I was told that smacktalk is against the rules of your corp. Several don't follow it, they do it in emails, convos, in the HMM channel and in local. You claim to have dealt with it, but I was told that already by other corp members from HMM and it's still going on as of the last time I was online.
I was told that my corp had done something in the channel which caused us to be banned. None of my guys ever mentioned it to me. I asked for proof and of course, no one has it or has any specifics on it. Since you banned us from the channel, I will now use the channel to pick some more targets and dec more players.
So to sum up, I tried enter your channel after seeing one of your guys running off at the mouth in local to see what was going on in the channel because if it was filled with people like him, it would have to be funny as heck.
It came up blocked to my corp. So we dec'd you. Some of your members seem to like it. Even though they sit a whine about it and how little it costs us to dec you and all that jazz. Some of them hate it and want to be left alone. Hence some of them running out 20 jumps from us to avoid us.
You asked us to pay a surrender fee, we said no, we offered the same to you, some said yes, others said no. So we're at a stalemate.
We never said you leaving had anything to do with us. I am sure you will be back. Eve is like that.
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MinerPewPew
Caldari DARMATECH United Front Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.30 00:05:00 -
[67]
Being an Ex target of Traps and having had dealt with Nexa personally, all I'd like to add is, there are worse players out there.
We were war dec'd around the same time HMM corp was, and opted to pay them off. Nexa held by the agreed terms, and we were allowed to be on our Merry way. They might be scoundrels preying on care bears, but they are at least somewhat honorable scoundrels.
Borris, you will be missed, I know we never met personally but I am friends with song, and familiar with the podcast. We've all taken a break, so we understand mate.
Oh and this whole smack talk business is ridiculous. You guy's, its space, who cares who smacked who lol. War Dec's are part of the game, and although I don't go around dec'ing people, I am glad that its there, its what makes eve, eve. No where is safe, not forever, and I wouldn't have it any other way.
Oh and Nexa, stop defending yourself, your pulling the thread off topic, this is a dedication thread to Borris, NOT COAD, go post your Propaganda there. <3 - MinerPewPew - CEO - DARMATECH |
Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2009.12.30 00:24:00 -
[68]
How dare you insult me sir! Hehe, just kidding of course.
It was nice to deal with you. You negotiated without smack, without insults, without being silly. You got us out of your hair cheap, fast and easy.
The only reason I posted here is because I saw how popular Boris was to some people yet there are members of the corp who are extremely displeased with how things are being run in HMM.
It interested me and I was curious on his take of things.
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Marko Riva
Adamant Inc
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Posted - 2009.12.30 01:03:00 -
[69]
Edited by: Marko Riva on 30/12/2009 01:02:58 Thread feels like a threadnaught of alts.
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Crewman Jenkins
Caldari Malicious Demi-Lancers
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Posted - 2009.12.30 01:15:00 -
[70]
Take it easy Boris, and we'll see you after a while I hope.
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nillionsed
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Posted - 2009.12.30 01:15:00 -
[71]
:( im gonna miss you boris. you were ma idol
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bananamana
Caldari HelpMyMissioners
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Posted - 2009.12.30 02:58:00 -
[72]
Nexa u underestimate hmm as a corp and channel. Yes we know 1 person convo'ed you about surrender, he has no call at all though in our corp. Our offer stands to buy off the wardec, it wont be the other way around. and you keep on lying about smack talk, we actualy had good talks with some of ur corp members and gave us good intell. Anyway eventhough i lost some cheap ships i actualy like it seeing u guys loosing more expensive ships then we are.
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Shade Millith
International House of PWNCakes
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Posted - 2009.12.30 03:27:00 -
[73]
Ok. This whole situation just smells like usual highsec wardec. Just with a forum thread dedicated to it.
But one thing that keeps popping up (And confuses the hell outta me) is that HMM guy is demanding ISK for TRAPS to drop the wardec?
That just doesn't make any sense... --------------------------------------------
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Toy Bundle
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Posted - 2009.12.30 03:42:00 -
[74]
What i have learned so far about this Boris.
1. He apoligizes for other people 2. He fansies the whip 3. He is a wuss
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Traidor Disloyal
Private Nuisance
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Posted - 2009.12.30 05:29:00 -
[75]
You need a help channel for these? How to do the Eve PvE missions ************************************************* I have three characters. One has Cov Ops V along with all the bells and whistles that goes with it. |
Serenalen
Caldari HelpMyMissioners
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Posted - 2009.12.30 06:02:00 -
[76]
Boris, Thanks again for all your efforts, and we're looking forward to your return.
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Kamakazia
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Posted - 2009.12.30 09:19:00 -
[77]
Not going to add to much to this apart from I joined the corp. because I felt I would like to support a guy like Boris in this game who spends a lot of his time helping others and running a lottery at no profit. Helping people also in there efforts to cope with missions also is very rewarding. You need a better spy by the way me being 17 years of age was a long time ago my friend and I really wish I was that age again. When hopefully Boris starts up the lottery again I would suggest buying a few tickets you never know you might win a battleship and we could help with the fittings in the HMM channel as the last time I saw you had a few flames coming out of your old one before you warped off.
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Kamakazia
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Posted - 2009.12.30 09:26:00 -
[78]
Just like to add this is Zuahna, my forum is a tad bugged.. Regards..
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2009.12.30 15:12:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Kamakazia Not going to add to much to this apart from I joined the corp. because I felt I would like to support a guy like Boris in this game who spends a lot of his time helping others and running a lottery at no profit. Helping people also in there efforts to cope with missions also is very rewarding. You need a better spy by the way me being 17 years of age was a long time ago my friend and I really wish I was that age again. When hopefully Boris starts up the lottery again I would suggest buying a few tickets you never know you might win a battleship and we could help with the fittings in the HMM channel as the last time I saw you had a few flames coming out of your old one before you warped off.
You like to twist things and leave stuff out.
[ 2009.12.25 08:43:40 ] ZUAHNA > they came off stations once but onto a gate were i was 1 v 2 of them...
You leave out that it was 2vs2, and I jumped over since I was in low armor and your abaddon died. Completely fair fight, however you try to say you had the advantage in one sentence and in the other you claim you had to run cause it was unfair odds to begin with.
http://traps.griefwatch.net/?p=details&kill=7355
You can see from the amount of damage I did, I had engaged him for quite a bit and was in low armor. Next time maybe I wont get away. Maybe next time you wont. But I am sure you will leave out some details again.
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Avraham Avinu
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Posted - 2009.12.30 15:22:00 -
[80]
Boris is a great man. He helped me in missions and saved my life in 'Nam. Boris, sir, you can bed my sister anytime (if I had one).
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HowardStern
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Posted - 2009.12.30 16:03:00 -
[81]
Originally by: FunzzeR Whos Boris?
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Kazang
Wrecking Shots
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Posted - 2009.12.30 16:07:00 -
[82]
Nice to see such a "pillar of the community", as some have so eloquently put it, toppled so easily. Kazang
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Arden Caine
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Posted - 2009.12.30 16:57:00 -
[83]
Have a good break Boris... come back when you're ready. Thanks for all your assistance and suggestions over the last year and a half, it was a great help.
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Bhattran
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Posted - 2009.12.30 17:54:00 -
[84]
I appreciate that the HMM channel exists both to help players with questions/fits as well as missions themselves and thank Boris and the HMM regulars/corp members.
Boris, take your time away from eve, hopefully enjoying some of it and when you come back I'd suggest ditching the lottery as it stands. If you decide to bring it back do it in a very limited fashion, 1 ticket per person with a max of 100-200 tickets or something to that effect. Organizing things in eve can easily take on a life of their own to the point you spend more time administrating and doing 'e-work' than playing the game.
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Elemental Dark
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Posted - 2009.12.30 21:05:00 -
[85]
Alright Guys , hows this ; instead of all this bickering, howabout we just post if you know/remeber Boris and bring this thread back onto topic and leave any smacktalk ingame . pls note that this applies to both sides !
To be honest Boris , like all people , is a great guy if you knew him and he liked you !
Like all thinigs in life and gaming everyone sees things differently , but to me , Boris rocked and gave help in times of need .
Hat off to you mate ! (Damn, cant find a hat tipping smilie )
ED
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Li Meia
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Posted - 2009.12.30 21:54:00 -
[86]
Edited by: Li Meia on 30/12/2009 21:56:26
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DenShou
Gallente Wolves of Fenrir High Guard Council
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Posted - 2009.12.31 01:53:00 -
[87]
YAY back again,
I think what most people don't see is the help he has provided to those beginning this game. While yes he is a care bear, I'm a Wormhole junky who's doing missions while waiting for my hole to re-spawn.
Boris from what I have seen is a gent who would help people and by example pass on that help. The channel itself is group of people, willing to help within reason & jumps :P
HMM is not just a corp, it's an idea that has helped many players.
So to you carebear haters, may your booze spoil and your ships rust ( more in the case of Minmatar )
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Adeena Torcfist
Caldari Solar Nexus. OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.31 04:38:00 -
[88]
From my point of View Boris, your so called admins have had the power that u have bestowed upon them, gone straight to their heads, & will, in some form or another, be the downfall of HMM.
I got banned, on many occasions, & it was u the last time round, that brought me back. i was a great asset, I helped others when they needed it, but becasue some ppl cant fathom or tolerate the english language, is a good enough reason to give me the boot.
So i went about killing ( & podding ) Martineski, too bad i didnt get to pod u as an ultimate trophie. Maybe then, u would wake up, as these trigger happy ppl when ur not there, are the total opposite of what u wanted for that channel.
So it seems to me, HMM is turning ppl away, not helping.
so just as a side note boris, yes, maybe u should take a break from HMM. it would also do u good to go 0.0 for some PvP help ( helpmyPvP lolz ) & see what its like on the other side of the coin.
AS for the 12 hour shifts, sack UPS off, DHL ftw
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Oscardoodle
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.12.31 05:30:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Elemental Dark Alright Guys , hows this ; instead of all this bickering, howabout we just post if you know/remeber Boris and bring this thread back onto topic and leave any smacktalk ingame.
I remember the time Boris touched my special area (in game). I apologize for having one of those sigs...Sorry. |
Canonteign
Rational Expectations
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Posted - 2009.12.31 18:16:00 -
[90]
Slightly scary thread name - glad to hear Boris hasn't driven his delivery truck over a cliff as a result of one too many big Xmas parcels!
I can understand why Boris is taking a break given all the boring admin stuff he took on as part of building the HelpMyMission channel. It's meant to be a game, after all.
Anyway, cheers Boris - the HMM channel is a really good idea and EVE is a much better experience because of it, particularly for newer players. It's a shame about the war thing, but then again I guess that being pretty successful and having a growing profile and associated corp inevitably paints it as a bigger target in general.
May the HelpMyMission Channel continues to do what it does best (the clue being in the name) and hope to see you back there sometime.
Cheers, Canon
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Phil Tao
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Posted - 2010.01.05 13:24:00 -
[91]
Boris I hope that you come back soon, you have helped me so much and everyone else, Boris we all miss you. If you decide not to come back it has been a 'pleasure' flying with you.
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TedJanitor
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Posted - 2010.01.07 16:35:00 -
[92]
Even though I eventually turned evil, boris was a great help to me in getting my feet in eve, and on numerous occasions helped my directly or indirectly, you'll be sorely missed boris, hope however life goes, it goes well.
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GFRoSTY
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.01.19 15:41:00 -
[93]
I just started to the listen to the mission collide podcasts and find them excellent, especially Episode 5 the 'Anonomooose' eheheh and I recently found out that Boris Hotch was giving up on EVE....
I'd like to thank you and Song Li for what you have done for all the Carebears and others in EVE giving their valuable insight in this game.
COME BACK !!!
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Keyser Wilhelm
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Posted - 2010.01.24 19:58:00 -
[94]
My first experience with another corp then the default one was with Boris. It was a great experience and it was much fun.
The "HelpMyMission" chat channel you started will not be the same without your guidance.
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NightmareX
Infinitus Odium Scum Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.24 20:00:00 -
[95]
Who the feck is this Boris guy?.
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IVeige
Caldari IVever
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Posted - 2010.01.24 20:34:00 -
[96]
Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 24/01/2010 20:26:28 Who the feck is this Boris guy?.
At least, give us some details on who the person is before you make a topic like this, so we can have SOME clue on who you guys are talking about, right?.
this guy created the helpmymission channel, just a channel of missioners where anyone can ask for help and will get help. There is also a lottery that so far gave up billions of isk every week. Even chribba hang around the channel alot lol. All over eve, players for many corporations are fleeting up and doing lvl 4-5, epic arc and everything. With of course overpowered ships and expensives one to help the new players.
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