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Ulair Memmet
ORIGIN SYSTEMS Shadows of Light
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Posted - 2009.12.10 17:49:00 -
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not supported as irrelevant in my opinion and sollution 2) is a major nerf for anyone who is not a gallente pilot. make them appear closer to my ishtar instead...dominion screwed that up.
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Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.12.10 18:47:00 -
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Edited by: Bagehi on 10/12/2009 18:54:17
Originally by: Maxsim Goratiev Edited by: Maxsim Goratiev on 10/12/2009 15:17:40
Quote: Also sentries have superior range and thus have inferior damage
POs guns have superior range to your ship's guns. GUess what? they do more damage, because they are stationary.
POS guns are super-powered because of the cost associated with them, not because they are stationary in a fight. Also, they are beyond stationary, you can't just bring them to a fight like you can a sentry drone.
Your argument is equivalent to saying a dreadnought does more damage than a cruiser because it is slower.
If you want another skill that gives a bonus to sentries, it should be for optimal range. They are, after all, the snipers of the drone world.
Sniper weapons/ships have range bonuses. Boost base damage, have damage modified by spec skills and switch the sentry skill to boost range. They would fit their concept better if a sniper could drop them at 100-150km out and use them. |
Chi Quan
Bibkor Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.12.11 12:58:00 -
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Edited by: Chi Quan on 11/12/2009 12:58:49
Originally by: Sokratesz And really what are 4 days or even a month in the grand scheme of things, when it doesn't harm you in any way but could get you some nice bonuses?
comparing 4 days to a month is failure with math. the "nice bonuses" you speak about are a mere 2% in paper dps. i'd much rather have ccp spend resources in displaying damage notifications for drones than this nonsense. your change affects a handful of ships: domi, ishtar, moros, the 3 amarr equivalents, the 2 pirate ones and to a lesser degree the phoon. in any practical situation you won't notice the 2% extra dps on the first 2, IF you bothered taring the 4 lvl 5 skills to 5 (hello ~80 days more training time, i'd rather get into a carrier for that, thx). likewise for the moros, as these extra dps will mix in with your guns. the geddon paks heavy drones at least half of the time, so the extra 80 days will go unnoticed. see domi&ishtar for the pirate ships. and lastly the phoon needing MORE sp. why? because minmatar racial flavor is that they need to train more stuff?
you char dates back to 2006, somehow i get the feeling there is a hidden new-guys-are-having-it-too-easy-these-days-and-they-should-have-it-as-hard-as-the-old-ones agenda involved. this way of thinking is flawed, you would't run over your neighbors dog, just because yours died yesterday, would you? ---- Ceterum censeo blasters need some tracking love |
Jimmi Bones
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Posted - 2009.12.11 13:04:00 -
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Sokratesz your topic about the titan jump portal range was good but this one however is terrible Not sportin'
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2009.12.11 13:19:00 -
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Originally by: Chi Quan
comparing 4 days to a month is failure with math. the "nice bonuses" you speak about are a mere 2% in paper dps.
People spend billions of ISK getting tiny % improvements in all areas of EVE. Why would drones be any different?
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Charles Ofdensen
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Posted - 2009.12.12 04:58:00 -
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Drone nerfs and drone stealth nerfs = not supported.
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Mahke
Aeon Of Strife
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Posted - 2009.12.12 07:19:00 -
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Originally by: Muad' Dib All for it but if you get this fixed before the more serious problems on the agenda, i will lose what little faith i still have left in the intelligence of CCP's game designers.
Came to thread because posted by new CSM member.
This about sums it up.
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Maxsim Goratiev
Gallente Imperium Technologies
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Posted - 2009.12.12 09:58:00 -
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I am really shocked by how many people see a 8-10% bonus to sentry drones dps from the specialization skills as a nerf.
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Chi Quan
Bibkor Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.12.12 12:45:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz People spend billions of ISK getting tiny % improvements in all areas of EVE. Why would drones be any different?
because those +2% equal 4 months and don't add up with others. speed +2% is noticable, even more when coupled with an mwd that gives +500% =>+10% ---- Ceterum censeo blasters need some tracking love |
Harkwyth Mist
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.12.12 16:05:00 -
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2009.12.12 16:53:00 -
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Originally by: Chi Quan
Originally by: Sokratesz People spend billions of ISK getting tiny % improvements in all areas of EVE. Why would drones be any different?
because those +2% equal 4 months and don't add up with others. speed +2% is noticable, even more when coupled with an mwd that gives +500% =>+10%
Err, no, lrn2/maths.
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2009.12.12 17:32:00 -
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I've edited the first post to make it clearer that I'm actually looking to improve T2 sentries by this.
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Herpes Sweatrash
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Posted - 2009.12.12 19:09:00 -
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Personally I don't think they need improving. No racial spec bonus is a fair trade off for their instant damage/no travel time vs heavy drones.
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Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2009.12.12 23:30:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
Err, no, lrn2/maths.
I'd say lrn2create good ideas threads and/or not simply respond with glib one-liners. You're in the CSM and should at least present the illusion of taking things and the playerbase seriously. ---
Even though you might disagree with what I say, that doesn't automatically make me a troll. |
Sokratesz
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Posted - 2009.12.13 09:52:00 -
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Edited by: Sokratesz on 13/12/2009 09:54:43
Originally by: Captain Pompous
Originally by: Sokratesz
Err, no, lrn2/maths.
I'd say lrn2create good ideas threads and/or not simply respond with glib one-liners. You're in the CSM and should at least present the illusion of taking things and the playerbase seriously.
Nothing obliges me to take every reply seriously and his idea of how a multiplicative bonus works was simply incorrect.
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darkmancer
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Posted - 2009.12.13 13:23:00 -
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Not supported. T2 sentries are fine, and skills for the sake of skills are pointless.
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