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Kallahar
THORN Syndicate BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.09.19 17:00:00 -
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Not kidding. From what I understand, this new FinCEN (US Dept of Treasury) ruling reclassifies any virtual currency as subject to the Bank Secrecy Act. This ruling takes effect in 8 days (sept 27th).
Basically that means that in order for CCP to sell isk (plex, aurom, whatever) they have to collect "Identifying information includes the customerGÇÖs name, date of birth, address and identification number. Sellers must retain this information for five years from the date of sale. The records must be easily accessible and retrievable upon request from FinCEN, law enforcement or judicial order."
More info from the bitcoins forum: http://www.bitcoinmoney.com/post/8412471372/fincen-prepaid-access-final-rule
I also talked to a developer at GameCoins and they're also trying to figure out how to deal with the change. Facebook Credits, Farmville, Mobsters, etc all also fall under the ruling.
Hopefully I'm just understanding it all wrong, but it sure would be ridiculous if CCP had to choose between no longer selling PLEX to US customers or having to collect all of our social security numbers...
FinCEN ruling statement: - http://www.fincen.gov/news_room/nr/html/20110715.html
Final ruling: - http://www.fincen.gov/statutes_regs/frn/pdf/MSB_Final_Rule_Definition_and_OtherRegulations.pdf
Kallahar
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Tethys Atreides
The Audacity of Huge
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Posted - 2011.09.19 17:03:00 -
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PLEX is not a virtual currency. It is a currency in a virtual reality game. There is a very pronounced difference. |
Simetraz
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.19 17:04:00 -
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Server not in the U.S.A.
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Kitty McKitty
In Praise Of Shadows
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Posted - 2011.09.19 17:04:00 -
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Tethys Atreides wrote:PLEX is not a virtual currency. It is a currency in a virtual reality game. There is a very pronounced difference.
"Why can't I be different and original, like everybody else?" |
Cyniac
Twilight Star Rangers Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.19 17:07:00 -
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That's a minor issue compared to what would happen if the US really decided to go through and impose trade sanctions against Iceland because of the whaling conflict... while unlikely here is how a worst case scenario would play out:
POTUS decides that enough is enough and enacts economic sanctions against Iceland for breach of the IWC moratorium (I know a bit more complex but trying to do a brief version of this)
Icelandic economic interests with links to the US are identified - CCP as an icelandic company gets flagged up.
US starts to enforce trade sanctions - while you would still be able to play EVE from the US you'd not be able to pay CCP for anything which would hurt some more than others.
Pain and suffering would follow.
Compared to that collecting social security numbers is a minor annoyance. |
Knot'Kul Sun
Society Of The Abattoir Rebel Alliance of New Eden
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Posted - 2011.09.19 17:10:00 -
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The end is Nigh!
NIGH!!! |
Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.09.19 17:15:00 -
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Knot'Kul Sun wrote:The end is Nigh!
NIGH!!!
god i lolled so hard the coffee came out of my nose |
malaire
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Posted - 2011.09.19 17:15:00 -
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I checked that PDF quickly.
Quote: Money services business. A person wherever located doing business, whether or not on a regular basis or as an organized or licensed business concern, wholly or in substantial part within the United States, in one or more of the capacities listed in paragraphs (ff)(1) through (ff)(6) of this section. ... (1) Dealer in foreign exchange. ... ... (2) Check casher ... ... (3) Issuer or seller of traveler's checks or money orders ... ... (4) Issuer, seller, or redeemer of stored value. ... ... (5) Money transmitter ...
I didn't notice (ff)(6) there ..
Virtual currency in games like EVE doesn't fall into any of those categories. Carebear -á* -áTrader -á* -áPerfect Music-á-á* -áNever Scamming -á* -áNever Pirating |
trevormax
Lone Star Exploration Lone Star Partners
0
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Posted - 2011.09.19 17:15:00 -
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I thought a plex was game time for eve? not isk.
Doesn't matter that you can sell it in game for isk. It's the same as paying your monthly sub and ratting for a bit to get the bounties. |
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CCP Zymurgist
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.19 17:17:00 -
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The big difference between PLEX and say Bitcoins is that PLEX is in-game only and it can't be turned into money. Bitcoins can be used to by things, even PLEX, making it a currency.
Both are "virtual" in a sense but it really comes down to the method they can be used. If we struck a deal with Papa Johns so you could use PLEX to feed your family (AS AN EXAMPLE) then it could be classified as currency. Zymurgist Community Representative CCP NA, EVE Online Contact Us at http://support.eveonline.com/pages/petitions/createpetition.aspx |
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
40
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Posted - 2011.09.19 17:18:00 -
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"f the MSB conducts $1,000 worth of transactions per person per day, the enterprise must comply with anti-money laundering rules required under the BSA"
I do not think anyone playing eve does $1000 per day, so for that we are OK. If needed, CCP can just limit the number of Game Time Cards a person can buy in one day to, say, 25.
Also as CCP does not provide a way to change plex or isk or aurum back into $, it is not really a currency at all. CCP employees should never proclaim a feature to be awesome. Only subscribers should. |
Ingvar Angst
Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United
44
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Posted - 2011.09.19 17:25:00 -
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CCP Zymurgist wrote:The big difference between PLEX and say Bitcoins is that PLEX is in-game only and it can't be turned into money. Bitcoins can be used to by things, even PLEX, making it a currency.
Both are "virtual" in a sense but it really comes down to the method they can be used. If we struck a deal with Papa Johns so you could use PLEX to feed your family (AS AN EXAMPLE) then it could be classified as currency.
Something in the works you're not telling us? Kill a Sleeper, get a pizza? Six months in the hole... it changes a man. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
280
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Posted - 2011.09.19 17:29:00 -
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bitcoin... haha
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Flynn Fetladral
Royal Order of Security Specialists
451
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Posted - 2011.09.19 17:31:00 -
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CCP Zymurgist wrote:The big difference between PLEX and say Bitcoins is that PLEX is in-game only and it can't be turned into money. Bitcoins can be used to by things, even PLEX, making it a currency.
Both are "virtual" in a sense but it really comes down to the method they can be used. If we struck a deal with Papa Johns so you could use PLEX to feed your family (AS AN EXAMPLE) then it could be classified as currency.
If you strike a deal with a local organic eco-whole food retailer then I support such a service :-P |
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
244
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Posted - 2011.09.19 17:32:00 -
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Simetraz wrote:Server not in the U.S.A.
Gambling websites are generally based outside the USA, but that hasn't stopped the US issuing arrest warrants.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
DrDan21
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.09.19 17:33:00 -
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CCP Zymurgist wrote:The big difference between PLEX and say Bitcoins is that PLEX is in-game only and it can't be turned into money.
Ha tell that to the DRF RMT empire, they brag about that car and condo they bought |
Simetraz
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.19 17:38:00 -
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CCP Zymurgist wrote:The big difference between PLEX and say Bitcoins is that PLEX is in-game only and it can't be turned into money. Bitcoins can be used to by things, even PLEX, making it a currency.
Both are "virtual" in a sense but it really comes down to the method they can be used. If we struck a deal with Papa Johns so you could use PLEX to feed your family (AS AN EXAMPLE) then it could be classified as currency.
So much for ordering a pizza in game and having it delivered. YOU NEED TO FIX THIS, CCP
Oh wait I still can, NVM
Capitals (Balancing and Roles) |
Nemesis Factor
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.19 17:40:00 -
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PLEX is a product, not a currency. |
Kunming
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E Xenon-Empire
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Posted - 2011.09.19 17:49:00 -
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LoL America |
toxicvega
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2011.09.19 17:52:00 -
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Simetraz wrote:Server not in the U.S.A.
ATL office is though, and as such they, (CCP) have an interest here. |
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Zirise
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.09.19 17:53:00 -
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CCP Zymurgist wrote:The big difference between PLEX and say Bitcoins is that PLEX is in-game only and it can't be turned into money. Bitcoins can be used to by things, even PLEX, making it a currency.
Both are "virtual" in a sense but it really comes down to the method they can be used. If we struck a deal with Papa Johns so you could use PLEX to feed your family (AS AN EXAMPLE) then it could be classified as currency.
DO WANT PLEX FOR PIZZA. |
Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.09.19 18:00:00 -
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CCP Zymurgist wrote:The big difference between PLEX and say Bitcoins is that PLEX is in-game only and it can't be turned into money. Bitcoins can be used to by things, even PLEX, making it a currency.
Both are "virtual" in a sense but it really comes down to the method they can be used. If we struck a deal with Papa Johns so you could use PLEX to feed your family (AS AN EXAMPLE) then it could be classified as currency.
So you're saying PLEX for pizza is in the works then? |
Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2011.09.19 18:02:00 -
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Confirming support for PLEX for pizza (although it would make me go broke (in game) in like a week). |
Dradius Calvantia
Creative Cookie Procuring Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2011.09.19 18:04:00 -
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Eh.. just have the next tengu you ransom send you a pizza instead of isk...
Not actually endorsing this as it is technically against the EULA. I will say this has happened before though. |
tika te
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.09.19 18:09:00 -
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so if all arguments fail..the bad end: no plex for US ppl.; who cares??! - the world is not "revolving" around US... |
Kitty McKitty
In Praise Of Shadows
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Posted - 2011.09.19 18:09:00 -
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Best story ever. "Why can't I be different and original, like everybody else?" |
Dalmont Delantee
Shiloh Technologies STR8NGE BREW
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Posted - 2011.09.19 18:10:00 -
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Simetraz wrote:Server not in the U.S.A.
This doesn't matter, in the UK there is lots of issues with americans in the UK holding UK investment assets, if an investment house does not segregate out their US citizens then they will suffer fines and/or banned from doing business in the US. Considering a lot of these investment houses are US companies they are shitting bricks.
The US laws tend to screw anyone up if they don't comply, especially if you are dealing with US citizens. In fact, they screw their own citizens up, firend of mine just went back to the US after living in the UK for 10 years, because she didn't declare some interest on a bank account for 3 years she was fined $14,000 reduced down to $3,000. The interest was only -ú150.... |
Dalloway Jones
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.09.19 18:19:00 -
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Cyniac wrote:That's a minor issue compared to what would happen if the US really decided to go through and impose trade sanctions against Iceland because of the whaling conflict... while unlikely here is how a worst case scenario would play out:
Honestly there is more of a chance of the US deciding "Hey whaling wasn't so bad. I think we'll join you." Especially if a republican wins the next election. |
Dalmont Delantee
Shiloh Technologies STR8NGE BREW
4
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Posted - 2011.09.19 18:25:00 -
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Dalloway Jones wrote:Cyniac wrote:That's a minor issue compared to what would happen if the US really decided to go through and impose trade sanctions against Iceland because of the whaling conflict... while unlikely here is how a worst case scenario would play out:
Honestly there is more of a chance of the US deciding "Hey whaling wasn't so bad. I think we'll join you." Especially if a republican wins the next election.
Need guns to shoot whales, means no gun control (Those pesky whales they will fight back! Need to shoot them) plus you can get oil from whales...oh my they are dead..:( poor whales... |
Barakkus
700
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Posted - 2011.09.19 19:02:00 -
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CCP Zymurgist wrote:If we struck a deal with Papa Johns so you could use PLEX to feed your family (AS AN EXAMPLE) then it could be classified as currency.
Implement nao, thnx. |
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The Apostle
The Black Priests
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Posted - 2011.09.19 22:11:00 -
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Quote:Need guns to shoot whales, means no gun control (Those pesky whales they will fight back! Need to shoot them) plus you can get oil from whales...oh my they are dead..:( poor whales...
Speaking of whales, don't carebears already use and lose Orcas and Rorquals. How about we give them an indy-super-cap with guns to fight gankers. We could call it a Sperm Whale?
pew pew, you're f****
No? Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
5
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Posted - 2011.09.20 01:12:00 -
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Well, FX controls have been used since the days of the Roman Empire. A country debases its currency, raises taxes beyond a certain level, and makes regulations too onerous GÇö and productive people naturally react by getting their capital, and then themselves, out of Dodge. But the government can't have that, so it puts on FX controls. They're almost inevitable at this point.
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Brock Nelson
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Posted - 2011.09.20 01:17:00 -
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Oh jesus, internet lawyers have taken over this thread. |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration
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Posted - 2011.09.20 01:20:00 -
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/also supporting PLEX for Pizza. ...and hot wings. ALL GëívGëí Ships | Odd-áGëívGëí Items | <-- Links to showInfo in-game |
Kitty McKitty
In Praise Of Shadows
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Posted - 2011.09.20 01:25:00 -
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I got a friend into playing EVE and he would buy me pints in exchange for ISK. They were fairly expensive pints but I would rather have beer than this excess of ISK. "Why can't I be different and original, like everybody else?" |
Brock Nelson
14
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Posted - 2011.09.20 01:29:00 -
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Kitty McKitty wrote:I got a friend into playing EVE and he would buy me pints in exchange for ISK. They were fairly expensive pints but I would rather have beer than this excess of ISK.
You're onto something here...I actually have a friend who plays eve as well and begs me for isk every once in awhile... |
KaarBaak
26
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Posted - 2011.09.20 01:29:00 -
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Kitty McKitty wrote:I got a friend into playing EVE and he would buy me pints in exchange for ISK. They were fairly expensive pints but I would rather have beer than this excess of ISK.
Imagine a bar at FF2012 that accepts only isk.
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Headerman
Quovis Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.09.20 01:34:00 -
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DrDan21 wrote:CCP Zymurgist wrote:The big difference between PLEX and say Bitcoins is that PLEX is in-game only and it can't be turned into money. WWWAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
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Y U NO
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.09.20 01:45:00 -
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Cyniac wrote:That's a minor issue compared to what would happen if the US really decided to go through and impose trade sanctions against Iceland because of the whaling conflict... while unlikely here is how a worst case scenario would play out:
POTUS decides that enough is enough and enacts economic sanctions against Iceland for breach of the IWC moratorium (I know a bit more complex but trying to do a brief version of this)
Icelandic economic interests with links to the US are identified - CCP as an icelandic company gets flagged up.
US starts to enforce trade sanctions - while you would still be able to play EVE from the US you'd not be able to pay CCP for anything which would hurt some more than others.
Pain and suffering would follow.
Compared to that collecting social security numbers is a minor annoyance.
Y U NO MAKE ******* GLASS CRATER IN ICELAND? |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration
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Posted - 2011.09.20 02:11:00 -
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Cyniac wrote:That's a minor issue compared to what would happen if the US really decided to go through and impose trade sanctions against Iceland because of the whaling conflict... while unlikely here is how a worst case scenario would play out:
POTUS decides that enough is enough and enacts economic sanctions against Iceland for breach of the IWC moratorium (I know a bit more complex but trying to do a brief version of this)
Icelandic economic interests with links to the US are identified - CCP as an icelandic company gets flagged up.
US starts to enforce trade sanctions - while you would still be able to play EVE from the US you'd not be able to pay CCP for anything which would hurt some more than others.
Pain and suffering would follow.
Compared to that collecting social security numbers is a minor annoyance.
Please. With the EvE community? lol! It's called a proxy server. Hell... I bet most players would get foreign accounts. There wouldn't even be a dip in the server population for a day, if something remotely that crazy came to pass. Hell, the guys ENFORCING something like that wold probably be players!
"No" is my final answer, Regis. Couldn't happen.
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Foodpimp
Heaven's Harvesters LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
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Posted - 2011.09.20 02:27:00 -
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Kitty McKitty wrote:I got a friend into playing EVE and he would buy me pints in exchange for ISK. They were fairly expensive pints but I would rather have beer than this excess of ISK.
I'm a simple guy....give me a few pints of Franzi Dunkle and we're good. |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
23
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Posted - 2011.09.20 02:31:00 -
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Barakkus wrote:CCP Zymurgist wrote:If we struck a deal with Papa Johns so you could use PLEX to feed your family (AS AN EXAMPLE) then it could be classified as currency. Implement nao, thnx.
if you do it do it with something that is international like pizza hut or dominoes... we dont have papa johns in canada or israel...
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Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
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Posted - 2011.09.20 02:38:00 -
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Tethys Atreides wrote:PLEX is not a virtual currency. It is a currency in a virtual reality game. There is a very pronounced difference.
not empty poptarts
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
Belidos Goveko
Harakoni Coalition
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Posted - 2011.09.20 13:50:00 -
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CCP Zymurgist wrote:The big difference between PLEX and say Bitcoins is that PLEX is in-game only and it can't be turned into money. Bitcoins can be used to by things, even PLEX, making it a currency.
Both are "virtual" in a sense but it really comes down to the method they can be used. If we struck a deal with Papa Johns so you could use PLEX to feed your family (AS AN EXAMPLE) then it could be classified as currency.
This ^^
CCP are not selling you a currency, they are selling you 30 days of gametime which you can choose to trade with other players for ingame currency, these new laws wouldn't even touch them, besides even if it was deemed a currency most of the information they require CCP already has, remember signing up for the game and putting your details in? |
Kitty McKitty
In Praise Of Shadows
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Posted - 2011.09.20 13:57:00 -
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I remember signing up and putting random details in. "Why can't I be different and original, like everybody else?" |
Belidos Goveko
Harakoni Coalition
6
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Posted - 2011.09.20 14:02:00 -
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Kitty McKitty wrote:I remember signing up and putting random details in.
Ah good ole identity fraud |
Thorn Galen
The Scope Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2011.09.20 14:06:00 -
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*facepalms*
I was going to.......no wait, nevermind.
(This space for rent) |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
12
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Posted - 2011.09.20 14:06:00 -
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They got the information for your payment method, currently they don't really need anything else. To kill the enemy and break their toys!
It's not so much a mission statement,-áit's more like a family motto. |
De'Veldrin
Norse'Storm Battle Group Intrepid Crossing
5
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Posted - 2011.09.20 14:25:00 -
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PLEX isn't a currency. The BSA doesn't apply.
Pretty much end of discussion, really.
Now, on the topic of using random details when signing up, I was always bothered by the fact that no one at CCP questioned my name being Hamster McHamsterpants III, Esq.
I mean come on - no one's parents are that cruel.
Are they? |
David Grogan
The Motley Crew Reborn Warped Aggression
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Posted - 2011.09.20 14:25:00 -
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CCP Zymurgist wrote:The big difference between PLEX and say Bitcoins is that PLEX is in-game only and it can't be turned into money. Bitcoins can be used to by things, even PLEX, making it a currency.
Both are "virtual" in a sense but it really comes down to the method they can be used. If we struck a deal with Papa Johns so you could use PLEX to feed your family (AS AN EXAMPLE) then it could be classified as currency.
don't the russian botters already do that? pay for morgages with rmt from botted isk. |
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Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
104
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Posted - 2011.09.20 15:02:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:Confirming support for PLEX for pizza (although it would make me go broke (in game) in like a week).
I'll have a kebab pizza with a coke please - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |
Takamori Maruyama
Imperium Technologies F0RCEFUL ENTRY
9
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Posted - 2011.09.20 15:08:00 -
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PLEX should be a currency for nerd Food. The Codex Astartes guides us....*someone poke and whisper something* Oh wrong scenario...WHERE IS MY GIANT AQUARIUM?! |
Nikkov
Kai-Zen inc.
0
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Posted - 2011.09.20 15:15:00 -
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CCP Zymurgist wrote:If we struck a deal with Papa Johns so you could use PLEX to feed your family then it could be classified as currency.
so...
when should we expect the dev blog? :) |
Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
17
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Posted - 2011.09.20 15:26:00 -
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CCP Zymurgist wrote:The big difference between PLEX and say Bitcoins is that PLEX is in-game only and it can't be turned into money. Bitcoins can be used to by things, even PLEX, making it a currency.
Both are "virtual" in a sense but it really comes down to the method they can be used. If we struck a deal with Papa Johns so you could use PLEX to feed your family (AS AN EXAMPLE) then it could be classified as currency. But you (CCP) made it recently so we can buy stuff with PLEX so surly it meets the classification of virtual currency? We can buy services off CCP in exchange for PLEX and we can buy virtual goods via PLEX. We can even tradePLEX currency for other currency. So how is it not a currecny of sorts? If we remove PLEX the whole virtual good part of Eve stops working.
PLEX can be transferred from one person to another. PLEX can be bought by real money. PLEX can be used to buy both services and virtual items. That seems to match the rules for currency in the new law. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6
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Posted - 2011.09.20 16:25:00 -
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Brock Nelson wrote:Kitty McKitty wrote:I got a friend into playing EVE and he would buy me pints in exchange for ISK. They were fairly expensive pints but I would rather have beer than this excess of ISK. You're onto something here...I actually have a friend who plays eve as well and begs me for isk every once in awhile...
Interesting note.
In Zimbabwe, when Mugabe devalued the currency to much they have "billion dollar bills" that purchased nothing, the people resorted to.....
prepaid phone units.
I am not sure of all details, but I remember that they have carriers that allow people to transfer time from one account to another. The people would rely on friends from out of country (meaning they didn't have crap currency) to purchase time cards, and send the codes in, and they would put the time on their phone.
This time became currency. People had value for it, and it was a consumable.
As a commodity, it worked. And in fact, the best currencies in civilization were commodities. They have an intrinsic value, something even gold lacks. (you cannot eat gold - imagine the "glass of water in a desert" scenario).
So I can see ISK and other in-game currencies becoming a commodity, whether governments and game providers like it or not, because if people have value for it, they will trade for it. Period.
And it's always good when people use "the code" as guidelines to survive. A human race too unruly to be centrally managed by desk tyrants is a productive, imaginative, and interesting race indeed.
So while it will be a EULA violation to trade ISK for say, ammunition or produce - something that the US economy might create a need for soon enough - the real fun will come when the government, clawing at the necks of the people while it goes down like a werewolf with a pound of silver bullets in its head, goes to companies like CCP and tries to make ISK transfer between accounts a "criminal act". Don't laugh. It's already such that if you get stopped by the police with a wad of cash in your wallet they can take the money, no charges, no judge, no jury, on the presumption that the money might have been acquired through criminal means. So the precedent is set for the bankster cronies to go to CCP and say that all inter-account ISK transfers are the activity of "competing currency" and hence criminal.
With any luck Iceland will stick to it's habits and tell the government to stuff it.
Otherwise, the ISK transfer will have to happen in space, through jet-canning items of value. The day will come when we will see an article about this: government wanting to send agents into MMOs to make sure people are not trading items of "transferable value". Chances are this will come from agents themselves looking to get paid to play MMOs all day. They already search around looking for terrists in MMOs.
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