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SetrakDark
Caldari DarkCorp Technology and Finance
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Posted - 2010.01.07 14:50:00 -
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Originally by: meisterschwein sheeps wake up! Lord is Akitas alt! This is just another conspiracy (just like 9/11 and Apollo 11 <- see what I did there?) to fool the people!
you cracked the akita code!
black helicopters inc
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SetrakDark
Caldari DarkCorp Technology and Finance
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Posted - 2010.01.10 01:09:00 -
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The weekend slump started! Late, but it's started.
20k this time tomorrow.
Sell now lemmings cause it's only down from here.
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SetrakDark
Caldari DarkCorp Technology and Finance
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Posted - 2010.01.10 03:57:00 -
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Originally by: Natasha Nikolaev
Originally by: SetrakDark The weekend slump started! Late, but it's started.
20k this time tomorrow.
Sell now lemmings cause it's only down from here.
Aren't you the same person that said it would be at 5K by last monday?
uhhhhhh...this time for sure though!
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SetrakDark
Caldari DarkCorp Technology and Finance
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Posted - 2010.01.15 21:05:00 -
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Someone is desperately propping it up with orders that disappear before they get filled. Someone nuked their 30b position at 28.7k as soon as it got close, then spammed a ton of small orders in a last ditch attempt to make demand look thick.
Going into the regular weekend cyclical downturn with the numbers as they are does not look good.
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SetrakDark
Caldari DarkCorp Holdings
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Posted - 2010.01.24 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: Business Classy The current situation is quite interesting. Every now and again a big buy happens, almost certainly by producers, which takes prices up to 37k or so, but there's no confidence in it so pretty much instantly a bunch of people still holding stock show up to put their stuff on the market.
It seems to me 'speculation' right now is saying that the price should be low and is keeping prices down, where before it had caused them to rise so ludicrously fast. I wonder what it would take to re-inflate confidence?
[disclaimer: I'm a 'Tech will be 60k+ by march' believer]
My observations from watching it over the last month:
Originally by: SetrakDark The manipulation seems to be maintaining a floor of 25k (for buy orders) from what I've seen. If the manipulator(s) give up before stockpiles dry up (whenever that is), then the price will fall right through 25k one weekend.
Anyone who is interested can watch the big blocking orders get nuked before they get filled, then the subsequent spamming of multiple small orders, which has been the MO these last 4 weekends.
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SetrakDark
Caldari DarkCorp Holdings
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Posted - 2010.01.26 13:11:00 -
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Originally by: Grozen The current trend is still going down and last week nobody bought huge amount which is why we're seeing 25k now.
Yes, very quiet on the tech front this weekend.
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SetrakDark
Caldari DarkCorp Holdings
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Posted - 2010.01.29 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: Cista2 Ok, here's a wild shot: Tech has hit bottom at 24k. There are 1.2 mil units in buy orders between 23k and 24k. So it will start rising slowly from now on (unless of course some huge sell order is dumped at 25k), and the weekend will maybe boost it further.
Just my 2 cents about the market balance at this minute.
Half of those buy orders will be nuked or adjusted down to 21k before they are filled.
Tech buy orders are an illusion.
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SetrakDark
Caldari DarkCorp Holdings
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Posted - 2010.01.29 15:05:00 -
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"sky's the limit on technetium (long term)"
but in the short-term the sky is falling
roffle roffle roffle
this is going to be an interesting weekend for tech.
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SetrakDark
Caldari DarkCorp Holdings
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Posted - 2010.01.29 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: Cista2 Yup, and a 600,000 unit sell order just killed by reckless prediction
That's what I was roffling about. We have to be reaching the breaking point where everyone who can't stomach the short term downturn start dumping their speculation stocks.
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SetrakDark
Caldari DarkCorp Holdings
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Posted - 2010.01.29 22:16:00 -
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PANIC!
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SetrakDark
Caldari DarkCorp Holdings
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Posted - 2010.01.29 22:54:00 -
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Originally by: Queen Athena
Originally by: SetrakDark PANIC!
It is not panic
I know, that's why I'm telling them to start.
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SetrakDark
Caldari DarkCorp Holdings
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Posted - 2010.01.30 04:20:00 -
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Originally by: Lieutenant Obvious and has always said from day 1 that it's a long term investment with huge peaks and troughs
Which has been stated numerous times, in one form or another, but trolls will be trolls.
Don't waste your time.
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SetrakDark
Caldari DarkCorp Holdings
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Posted - 2010.02.02 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: Tetovo Edited by: Tetovo on 02/02/2010 22:22:48 Edited by: Tetovo on 02/02/2010 22:22:39 so market gurus, when does this turn into a sizable price drop in tech 2 ships?
When goo prices stabilize is the impression that I've been given.
Don't hold your breath.
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SetrakDark
Caldari DarkCorp Holdings
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Posted - 2010.02.04 18:53:00 -
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The last week of crash and spike had nothing to do with fundamentals.
Trying to glean any information about actual supply and demand from price behavior is pointless with all the manipulation going on.
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SetrakDark
Caldari DarkCorp Holdings
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Posted - 2010.02.05 19:29:00 -
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Ya, this sounds like more pointless attempts to talk it up or down.
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SetrakDark
Caldari DarkCorp Holdings
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Posted - 2010.02.06 19:19:00 -
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Originally by: Queen Athena Yeah, because it is so easy to get a dozen alliances spread over a half dozen regions + Pets to agree on anything. You think there is any power bloc in this game capable of covering the amount of space that the NC has? More likely we will see the north split amongst several blocs and thus several price point agendas.
As soon as one NC member gets attacked you will see them undercut the rest of the "cartel" to milk as much profit as they can before falling.
Agreed. The idea of the NC controlling the price through cartel is comical
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SetrakDark
Caldari DarkCorp Holdings
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Posted - 2010.02.06 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: Gnulpie Oh yeah, absolutely comical.
Especially since there was a monopoly on dysprosium and promethium also for most of the time. And that stuff was found everywhere in 0.0 and low sec and not just in a very few selected regions which are under the control of one of the most powerful group of alliances in 0.0
And no, 'the' NC isn't controlling the tech. It is the core-NC with Morsus Mihi and Razor, maybe a little TCF also. But no one else.
Go figure.
Non-responsive and bordering on nonsensical.
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SetrakDark
Caldari DarkCorp Holdings
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Posted - 2010.02.07 14:38:00 -
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Originally by: Gnulpie When one looks at the promethium und dysprosium prices it is clear that there was some cartel to stabilize or even increase the prices beyond normal supply/demand mechanisms. That is clearly shown by the fact that the price dropped heavily with increased tradevolume after CCP announced that they want to change the moon-mineral demand and the heavy price crash after they released the actual numbers. Especially the increased tradevolume with dropping prices shows that there was quite some stockpile available and that not all moon material was put onto the market but held back to shorten the supply and to increase the price.
If such a cartel can happen with materials like dysprosium and promethium which are available everywhere in the universe then the same thing can for sure happen with a material which is mainly found in a few regions which additionally are all under the tight control of one of the most powerful entities in 0.0.
That, at least, is a sensical argument, though I disagree.
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SetrakDark
Caldari DarkCorp Holdings
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Posted - 2010.02.07 20:09:00 -
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Edited by: SetrakDark on 07/02/2010 20:09:32
Originally by: Wyke Mossari That is exactly the same position he expressed a few posts earlier
Perhaps his intent was the same, but the actual intelligible content was not.
I now consider the argument ridiculous, as opposed to unintelligible, based on this weak argument:
"When one looks at the promethium und dysprosium prices it is clear that there was some cartel to stabilize or even increase the prices beyond normal supply/demand mechanisms. That is clearly shown by the fact that the price dropped heavily with increased tradevolume after CCP announced that they want to change the moon-mineral demand and the heavy price crash after they released the actual numbers"
Do I need to explain why it's terrible?
The reason I didn't "elaborate" was to avoid the very situation your "call-out" response has now put me in: some long rambling internet battle with someone who has trouble forming both coherent and effective arguments, and who seems too mad to "agree to disagree".
This is about as much effort as I am willing to put into this, so if the responses are as angry, incoherent, and logically weak as I expect them to be, I likely will not respond. If this has some negative impact upon my MD forum warrior standing, I am prepared to weather that storm, despite the possibly physical toll such a blow to my e-honor will cause.
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SetrakDark
DarkCorp Holdings
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Posted - 2010.02.19 23:40:00 -
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Originally by: Ambo Sell Sell Sell
lmfao
You have to dress your manipulation attempt up at least a little
...Unless this is reverse psychology and you actually want everyone to buy...
Hmmmm...
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SetrakDark
DarkCorp Holdings
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Posted - 2010.03.22 21:27:00 -
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Originally by: Treji Has this thread just turned into a speculators posting thread, each trying to outdo others by making spurious announcements to move markets upwards in some sort of ****ing competition?
rofl
like 15-20 pages ago
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SetrakDark
Northstar Cabal OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.12 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: J'J'J'Jita Tech up to 40k/u ... speculation, interruption of NC deliveries due to fight in H-W, or sustainable demand?
Waiting for Akita to unload...
If you're holding a small amount short term, i'd unload wherever it slows, probably 50kish. There has definitely been some serious supply destruction causing a genuine price increase, but expect a lot more on sell orders over the next few days as the HW "crisis" turned turkeyshoot slows down and logistics resume. If youre holding a ton long term, keep holding.
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SetrakDark
Northstar Cabal OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.12 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: J'J'J'Jita Looks like the sell-off has begun at 44k/u, lots of people trying to take profits now. Amusing how Platinum Technite has remained nearly untouched by speculators.
Look at the volume though, it's a bunch of piddly sells. Unless a big speculator unloads (no way to predict) or NC logistics get up and running today/tomorrow (unlikely), we'll see 50k+. My guess is spike to 55k, post-spike slump to 45k over the week, then new short term price of 45k-50k. Long term I'm betting on continued supply destruction and stockpile depletion for an absurd long term price.
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SetrakDark
Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.08.01 12:05:00 -
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Woop. I knew it was only a matter of time, just took a while...
Glad I borrowed some cash instead of liquidating some stock.
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SetrakDark
Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.08.30 12:57:00 -
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Idk wtf I'm going to do when this stuff stops going up. I made myself these beautiful spreadsheets and a speculation system, but I've ended up holding nothing but tech. Having to actually try to make profit again is going to be a real pain.
Life is tough...
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SetrakDark
DarkCorp Legion
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Posted - 2011.01.17 19:29:00 -
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It looks like Neod's set for a bounce. I don't know the t2 production numbers behind its demand, but market supplies got cleaned out at the low 20s pu, and now it looks like it will settle around 30k pu, short term at least. Considering its regional distribution is pretty much the exact opposite of tech, if it continues to climb while tech continues to stagnate, then that might take off a lot of the pressure to rejig based on wealth concentration.
Just my half-baked thought for the day.
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SetrakDark
DarkCorp Legion
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Posted - 2011.01.17 19:42:00 -
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Originally by: RAW23 I would hardly say tech is stagnating . Seems pretty steady at 75 now and if Akita would just move his 500k order up a bit ...
Fair enough. It's open to interpretation, but my language was definitely unjustifiably strong.
To clarify, I personally think it will be sitting between 65k-75k pu for a long time. My guess is that every time it noses up to 75k, another few stockpiles will get cashed in, then we see the dip to the sixties and settling in low 70s again for another couple weeks or so, repeat ad nauseam.
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SetrakDark
DarkCorp Legion
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Posted - 2011.01.26 02:21:00 -
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ya, i wouldn't get too excited about something that's just going to end up right back in sell orders.
I doubt people are buying now to hold long...not at 75k anyway.
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SetrakDark
DarkCorp Legion
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Posted - 2011.01.28 14:55:00 -
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You're right in that the latest tech bump is speculation driven. Someone went and dumped 30b+ on tech that is going to end up right back on sell orders, if it hasn't already.
However, I would also say that 39k is a good price to buy plat tech at to hold for the medium or even long term.
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