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Watered Down
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Posted - 2009.10.20 05:13:00 -
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Ok so atm i have my main in a nighthawk with a very nice faction fit and am able to solo all lvl 4s nicely and i have my alt in a hurricane with a very nice salvage set up.
I am working my alt into a nightmare atm (soon to be able to fly it) and my main into a Golem atm.
I only play with one comp (alt tab back and forth). And i am wondering about how well my Golem will be able to do missions compared to my nighthawk. I like how i can alt tab with full agro and salvage the room i was just on as i click back to shoot once and a while.
I am just wondering if a golem set up for torps would really be faster (i know i WILL kill faster, however if i am spending lots of my time to keep killing over and over not sure when i will have time to salvage really) I could just use Golem and Nightmare to kill the crap out of lvl 4s but not sure if that would be better isk/hour or what.
So i guess with the ships of Golem/Nighthawk and Hurricane/Nightmare what would be the best combo for isk/hour do you all think?
Thanks for the help! WD
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2009.10.20 05:45:00 -
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golem can lock 10 targets, I just start by locking everything cruiser and bigger and letting torps rip, with 3 painters. then start locking up wrecks/ships as needed. golem kills most stuff fast enough you won't really have time to alt tab, and depending on your tank you may have to micromanage that too.
nightmare is similar warp in an start shooting, but without the tractor bonus don't tractor stuff in. bit of managing the tank, not a lot of spare cap on that beast. will 1 volley (or less) most crusier/bcs so needs a good bit of attention.
I guess as for what is the best combo depends on how much attention you can pay. a dual monitor setup with a special keyboard, aka one you can macro fire all guns/activate all tps, on a target and have them close together would be best. (or just setup hot keys for f1-f4 on one client and f5-8 on the other)
I think the nightmare is currently my fav ship for missions, do them in amarr space, so lots of blood/sansha missions. although I'm also somewhat limited to 1 account as I'm on an (somewhat) older laptop.
I'd guess golem + hurricane for best isk/hour though. wreck ball with the golem and warp in and salvage, if needed loot, with the cane.
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Watered Down
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Posted - 2009.10.20 15:13:00 -
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That was kind of my idea as well but i have yet to work with the Golem. I know it can put out crazy DPS but with torps not sure if i will get the range i need. I am mostly in gallente/caldari space so i am just not sure about some of those mofos that keep range etc...
For those of you that use a Golem how much of an issue is getting into range with your torps? WD
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Ricco Lonestar
Minmatar Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2009.10.20 16:37:00 -
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Use 2 Golem. Make sure you have good targeting skills. As well both t2 small drones. So both can kill frigs at the same time as they are shooting cruisers + bs. Than have at least one with 1 or more painters. That way you can paint the cruisers. You also can tractor beam and salvage at the same time. It will take practice. I myself control 5-6 chars like this quite often. Pending on your own experience you would swap to cruise missiles. And or at least try rigs for missile velocity when using torps. So you can hit more far out also. defenately fit 3-4 bcu each.That makes it more isk p/h. With the golem you have a good enough tank/good enough dps/and cause of the tractorbeam bonus fast enough looting/salvaging/and cargo bay is good enough too. As i said above try torp+ missile velocity rigs + painters for torps. And or painter+ cruise. And fit it to your play style. One more tip = Make the drones guard the tank,that way you dont have much micromanagement/medium drones might kill the frigs fast enough too.
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Watered Down
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Posted - 2009.10.20 17:15:00 -
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I thought of that as well but honestly i am not sure if i wanted to fly the same ship for both chars. lol I just kind of wanted to do something different with my alt. Thus my Nightmare idea i am working on now. Like i said i am just not what to use. I only have a decent laptop so just alt tabbing is my only option there. So i need to get a combo that is ok working while i alt tab. I am just wondering if my best option would be using both killing ships or still have one that salvages or what...lol
WD
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Carniflex
Fallout Research Fallout Project
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Posted - 2009.10.20 18:51:00 -
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Nightmare + Golem combo works quite well for me in Amarr space altho I do switch Nightmare out for second Golem in approx 40% of missions where Golem is faster for me. While it's a bit well .. blashbemy .. when you start dualaccounting cruise kinda work a bit better in my experience. I also use 1 computer and alttab (or sometimes run clients on separate monitors) and when you use torps their RoF will mean that you would need to alttab a damn lot to not have them sitting idle there. If you would solo torps would be better in many missions. I use both accounts in same mission instead of taking mission to both guys. Second battleship in your gang will make combat phases of your missions go approx 40% faster.
Main advantage of Nightmare is to one volleying approacing smaller stuff. With T2 guns, 4 damage mods and 5% implants and navy ammo you can do it with 2 groups of guns with 2 guns each.
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Watered Down
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Posted - 2009.10.21 03:44:00 -
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Well my idea was to use the nightmare for when i have a big mission that my alt is normaly sitting, however i was just wondering how easy it is to get the Golem into range for those ships that stay farther away? I hoped to use the nice tractors to pull in wrecks while i get my slavager so i can get then all cleaned up faster (assuming i can get stuff close enough)
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2009.10.21 04:18:00 -
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One option is to have the alt fly a dominix with sentry drones.
Have the drones "assist" or "guard" the Golem, Golem tractors wrecks, Dominix salvages/loots. Dominix can provide logistics too (remote cap/shield). [Aussie players: join channel ANZAC] |
Dacryphile
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Posted - 2009.10.21 05:05:00 -
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Stop whoring both characters out to mission.
Get one into a golem for isk making.
Get the other out into low/null sec for fun.
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Sponde
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Posted - 2009.10.21 17:23:00 -
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Edited by: Sponde on 21/10/2009 17:23:16
Originally by: Watered Down
I only play with one comp (alt tab back and forth)
A suggestion would be to use two monitors, and put both accounts into windowed mode. Makes it much easier, no more alt tabbing messyness. Flat screens are fairly cheap now, so it may be feasible for you to do that provided you have a graphics card with two outputs.
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Lugalzagezi666
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Posted - 2009.10.21 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: Sponde A suggestion would be to use two monitors, and put both accounts into windowed mode.
2 monitors work well.
Btw with 2 high dps bses /controlled by 1 player/, you would find 2 nightmares/pallys much better. No target painters, less stress.
If you have to use alt+tab, second char would be better in afk domi, you cant reliably control 2 ships /that insta 50% of mission rats/.
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