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Mr Epeen
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Posted - 2009.09.26 06:44:00 -
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Troll or not he has a point.
EVE is, if nothing else, full of ass hats looking to annoy someone.
It's not just those nasty pirates that do this.
It's also the basement dwelling, 40 year old, never been kissed by a women, living off twinkies, mole that has just spent six hours watching his Hulk fill up while jacking it to Miley Cyrus CDs. He's afraid of PVP, so he jumps bravely into a belt and shoots the rocks you are trying to mine, telling himself, 'Now miley will have to love me when I send her my next email to tell her how leet I am'.
Alas, this is the way of the MMO.
Love it or GBTW.
Mr Epeen has spoken
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2009.09.26 06:48:00 -
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If you're mining omber instead of the scordite or plagioclase that's right next to it, you are your own worst enemy.
In the meantime, realise that even mining is a PvP experience. The ore's not yours until it's in your hold.
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Borun Tal
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.09.26 06:48:00 -
[33]
tl;dr
Your first problem is that you think "the left side" is yours. It ain't, unless you're part of an alliance and your alliance mates will kill anyone entering the belt. Whoever gets there can mine.
Second, Hulks are, in my opinion, a big problem in high sec. The macro'ers are back, CCP, and once again, you ain't doing anything. Same goes for ice miners in Macs. They're predictable, and are tarnishing part of the game for some of us. I think we need the jihad back again. Considering a little jihad of my own against the Macs I know are macro'ers.
Third, nobody ever said this internet spaceships game was fair. Get the frig over it or move on (no, I don't believe you quit over that little incident, or you're a serious loser).
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DarthCaboose
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Posted - 2009.09.26 06:51:00 -
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Alternatively you can take this as a learning experience and adapt to the circumstance.
Maybe you should anchor cans at different belts so that you can perform your mining operation at a variety of belts when this happens. You could try competing with the hulk for some of the ore (while a good hulk is ~175% faster than a retriever, you'll still be able to compete for some of the ore).
Or, and this is possibly one of the most amazing things about Eve, you could try and find some friends to help you out with the mining op. Have them fill your cans and pay them a good amount to boot.
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Mr Smooth
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Posted - 2009.09.26 07:15:00 -
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Originally by: Blane Xero Also OP, you Misspelled Inconsiderate.
I had previously thought that there was an unwritten rule, in forums, that you should not criticise someone for their use of language, especially when it is likely that English is not their first language. However, now that you have corrected my thinking, why have you used capital letters for "Misspelled" and "Inconsiderate"? I guess that men in glass houses really shouldn't throw stones. ;P
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.09.26 07:16:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Smooth
Originally by: Blane Xero Also OP, you Misspelled Inconsiderate.
I had previously thought that there was an unwritten rule, in forums, that you should not criticise someone for their use of language, especially when it is likely that English is not their first language. However, now that you have corrected my thinking, why have you used capital letters for "Misspelled" and "Inconsiderate"? I guess that men in glass houses really shouldn't throw stones. ;P
Typing using a graphics tablet can produce odd Capitalisation. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
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Mr Epeen
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Posted - 2009.09.26 07:19:00 -
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Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Mr Smooth
Originally by: Blane Xero Also OP, you Misspelled Inconsiderate.
I had previously thought that there was an unwritten rule, in forums, that you should not criticise someone for their use of language, especially when it is likely that English is not their first language. However, now that you have corrected my thinking, why have you used capital letters for "Misspelled" and "Inconsiderate"? I guess that men in glass houses really shouldn't throw stones. ;P
Typing using a graphics tablet can produce odd Capitalisation.
You spelled capitalization wrong.
Mr Epeen
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.09.26 07:20:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Epeen
Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Mr Smooth
Originally by: Blane Xero Also OP, you Misspelled Inconsiderate.
I had previously thought that there was an unwritten rule, in forums, that you should not criticise someone for their use of language, especially when it is likely that English is not their first language. However, now that you have corrected my thinking, why have you used capital letters for "Misspelled" and "Inconsiderate"? I guess that men in glass houses really shouldn't throw stones. ;P
Typing using a graphics tablet can produce odd Capitalisation.
You spelled capitalization wrong.
Mr Epeen
TouchT _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
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Storm Templar
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.09.26 07:23:00 -
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"I anchored cans onto this belt, it should be mine to mine and no one else can mine here but me! WAAAHH WAAAHH" That is all I'm seeing in the OP.
It's EVE mate, you don't like his Hulk plugging away at "your" belt?. You can sit there and cry about your "misfortune" (you are) or you can just find another belt or another system or another region. The remedy for your issue is very very hard aye?
Cry mich ein river mate, Stormie
p.s. Can I have your stuffs? (even though you said no, but mommy said that persistence is best)
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Sera Ryskin
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Posted - 2009.09.26 07:26:00 -
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The solution is simple:
1) Declare war on rival miner.
2) Kill rival miner. Repeat as necessary.
3) ??????
4) Profit!
Or just move out of highsec, then you can shoot him without the war dec. ==========
Merin is banned (yet again). Until she returns, you've got me to entertain you!
* Your signature is locked due to violating forum rules. Please file a petition once you have an appropriate signature - Fallout |
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Shade Millith
Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.09.26 07:53:00 -
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Originally by: Sera Ryskin The solution is simple:
1) Declare war on rival miner.
2) Kill rival miner. Repeat as necessary.
3) ??????
4) Profit!
Or just move out of highsec, then you can shoot him without the war dec.
Screw that, get a torp raven and suicide gank his arse.
Best solution ever \o/ --------------------------------------------
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Cassiopeia Draco
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Posted - 2009.09.26 07:59:00 -
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Smelling a troll here, but I'll bite.
Many have pointed it out but to reiterate the point, its not your ore, and you went about dealing with the situation the wrong way.
You've also done the wisest thing in quiting before you put anymore time in, cause id love to see your response to loosing a ship to another player through non-consensual pvp.
Being friendly actually helps, ask him about fitting a hulk, base skills required, his cycle stats with/without the the orca, and you might have got a better response, even a gang invite to mine with him.
Personally i wont mine roids if theres already someone mining it, simply becuase its just not worth the hassel for constant management of the strip miners. However if someone starts mining a roid after ive started on it, I'll train 2-3 strips and 10 drones, on that one roid and mine it out from under him, then every other roid hes mining, if its in range, until he gets the idea that mining the roids in that area of the belt isnt worth it as im reducing his isk per hour, normally after 2/3 roids he gets the idea and ether goes to another belt, or as far away from me as possible.
However If i see a lone guy in a belt mining, I'll stay away from anything hes currently mining, and start chatting, I might even offer the guy a gang invite, so he can benefit from the bonuses.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2009.09.26 08:29:00 -
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All this (supposedly) over Omber?! You might have wanted to consider mining something else and just buying the minerals instead, since Omber is worth (roughly) fsck-all. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Bal'Ayle
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Posted - 2009.09.26 08:35:00 -
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i sympathise with you in that a lot of players, myself at some points included can be quite inconsiderate, and yes it would have made more sence for him to mine the area to the right of the belt, But, you may have had a higher concentration of ore on your side, it may have been closer ((hulks move slow))
for instance, the other side of the belt may be 45km from your can marked zone, and i know i would myself move onto your patch to stop a long a** meander over to the other side of the belt. your best bet for this is to mark out the furthest areas of the belt,
or it may just be that like myself, when he was starting out there was some cheese better then him marking out areas he wasn't allowed to mine in his ibis?
to be fair when i started out i just used regular cans, and then used a hauler to move them. your set up is nice but essentially redundant. why not join an industrialist corporation and mine with a group? or better yet use an alt to haul the stuff and one to mine it.
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Scott Ryder
Amarr Sisters of Korhal CaLiARr Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.26 08:37:00 -
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Edited by: Scott Ryder on 26/09/2009 08:38:02 I can suicide gank him for you a couple times if you fund it? All i need is 3 battlecruisers (I will offcourse buy them myself, but you can pay for the insurance) or something like that i think. Anyways if you fund the losses (I will insure it, so the losses wont be that big) Harbinger costs 50 mil fitted, I get 30 back. You will need to scoop the loot and salvage me, in fact in may break even when his hulk pops. Alternative I can get into my abso buildt to bump miners :) easly knocks him 200 km away from the belt, I can do that all day long...
Convo me ingamge and we can set it up, im in the mood for hurting a griefer :)
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Wulf Tarkin
Gallente Sons of Apathy
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Posted - 2009.09.26 10:53:00 -
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Looks like I'll be going mining... Where's that belt again?
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AsheraII
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Posted - 2009.09.26 11:10:00 -
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I see two inconsiderate people: Obviously the guy who mines into a location at the same moment someone else is already mining there. Second, the guy who litters a spec of nowhere land with ugly anchored jetcans and claims it "his".
Ofcourse, "consideration" isn't exactly what this game is about. It may help you sometimes, but cut you at other times.
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Thenoran
Caldari Pelican.
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Posted - 2009.09.26 11:19:00 -
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Potential troll, but I'll just suggest to use cargo expanders when you get a Hulk and mine that way. Gets you over 22k m3 of space with GSCs put in. The time spent warping to and from station will be far less than the time you need to take it out of 20 GSCs.
I've used them myself in the past, but I spread them equally all over the belt, basicly following the curve/shape of the asteroid belt, even going around it like a ring. Each can had access to like fifty roids if not more. Gave that up in the end as GSCs are crap if you need to mine a specific type of ore. Gave up Mining myself entirely anyways, buying the materials and building whatever I need goes much faster. And time is money, even in EVE. ------------------------ Low-sec is like sailing along the coast of Somalia...
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Zartanic
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Posted - 2009.09.26 11:31:00 -
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Edited by: Zartanic on 26/09/2009 11:32:50
Originally by: Trig Onami
Originally by: Blane Xero Also OP, you Misspelled Inconsiderate.
OMFG call the police!
Without a lot of training you can do Level 4 missions for about 40 million an hour. Also mining is very much PVP from the little I have read about it. Your competing for resource's and on top of that your likely to be a very easy target. So what happened to you was almost a certainty.
Do you lay towels down next to swimming pools early in the morning to claim your space by any chance?
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Siko lawk
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Posted - 2009.09.26 11:33:00 -
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I think what this guys is really trying to say is....
recent studies have shown that 98% of all griefers have really little willies and probably get bullied in RL. Usually in RL they are so insignificant and that week and feeble amongst their peers that they have to accommodate that by developing a virtual ego to replace what they are lacking in RL.
This is why griefers exist!
So... If you get griefed then laugh it off as the joke is on them!
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2009.09.26 11:39:00 -
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Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 26/09/2009 11:42:51 Stop being a baby and spread out your secure cans. Geez.
Also, manually cycle your strip miners on the roids he's mining when they get to 1/4 done. He's probably using T2 strips and crystals, so he won't really want to do that... if you're careful and use a mineral scanner, you can make sure he ends up with only a small handful of m3 on the odd cycle, which (as I'm sure you can figure) is fairly annoying.
Less QQ, moar revenge plzkthxbai.
Edit: Addendum to the counter-grief above; keep doing that even if your cargo is full.
On another note, how do you like your pods in the morning? |
Yelan Zhou
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.09.26 11:50:00 -
[52]
Very entertaining troll, I had to read it twice till I found it.
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Grimpak
Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.09.26 11:57:00 -
[53]
ITT: mining pvp.
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Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
ain't that right. |
Dodgy Past
Amarr Lollipops for Rancors
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Posted - 2009.09.26 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: Sera Ryskin The solution is simple:
1) Declare war on rival miner.
2) Kill rival miner. Repeat as necessary.
3) ??????
4) Profit!
Or just move out of highsec, then you can shoot him without the war dec.
This.
People act like arse hats because they think they can get away with it consequence free.
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Rexthor Hammerfists
Rage of Inferno Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.09.26 12:10:00 -
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Edited by: Rexthor Hammerfists on 26/09/2009 12:10:17
Originally by: Mr Epeen Troll or not he has a point.
EVE is, if nothing else, full of ass hats looking to annoy someone.
It's not just those nasty pirates that do this.
It's also the basement dwelling, 40 year old, never been kissed by a women, living off twinkies, mole that has just spent six hours watching his Hulk fill up while jacking it to Miley Cyrus CDs. He's afraid of PVP, so he jumps bravely into a belt and shoots the rocks you are trying to mine, telling himself, 'Now miley will have to love me when I send her my next email to tell her how leet I am'.
Alas, this is the way of the MMO.
Love it or GBTW.
Mr Epeen has spoken
Theres plenty ways to either avoid asshats in eve or simply kick em back. In this example he couldve jumped into a bc and simply blown up the hulk, joined a mining corp that ha the logistics to mine in a remote place in empire and move it to jita etc etc
One good thing asshats do in eve is weed out the lazy, that are annoyed with something and rather quit than trying to come up with a solution. Good Riddance. -
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2009.09.26 12:17:00 -
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Mining is PvP, not PvE, with a slight difference:
The one that yields first wins. -------- Ideas for: Mining
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Mercurye
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.09.26 12:23:00 -
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I accept piracy and griefing in EVE as it is; Ive been playing for so long that its just a part you have to deal with ^^
But the "" inside me will say this to you: Try to engage in conversations with people who are truly likeable....now this is a rather tiring and often rather dissapointing experience, but its worth it if you dont want to feel alone in the vastness of EVE After all EVE is moreso filled with cavemen than with empathic and considerate people. I guess thats partially because the game attracts a lot of typical anti-social men than nurses or hairdressers ..even though there are exceptions --~--~--~--~ ~NOTE: Freak~ |
Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2009.09.26 12:27:00 -
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hm..
Cans in belts, easy to screw over and in a player corp.. calls for a wardec and getting the cans blown up.
Also, your "cheapest stuff in the region"-speach sounds like you have no clue about factoring in your oportunity costs.. I hope your "little" operation gets shut down for this.
Oh and EVE is a harsh world.. if you want to play kitty online, try google.
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Another Forum'Alt
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.09.26 12:42:00 -
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7/10 BECAUSE OF FALCON. Guide to forum posting |
nafiy gnaw
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Posted - 2009.09.26 12:43:00 -
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Erm...er.....they are still not your roids though, dosent matter how many fabulous giant super secure containers you put next to it...............
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