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SmilingVagrant
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Posted - 2012.06.06 22:24:00 -
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Katja Faith wrote:PVPers are not sociopaths. They're just kids, and kids do whatever they want to have fun. Example: the behaviour of the disgraced lawyer at FanFest, and his goose-steppers on the boards shortly thereafter.
Confirming, I step geese. |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.06 22:27:00 -
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I am also ~literally~ a child. I'm posting this from mommy's smartphone outside of the JCPenny while she tries on dresses. After this we are going to go get some ice cream and then go home where daddy is going to "Get sauced" and hit me with his belt while screaming he wished I was a boy.
I am a boy :( |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.07 00:13:00 -
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Horus Ernaga wrote: Act? No, probably not. Do you act in a game the way you think in RL? Definitely. For the guy who you told to "Cry moar" is indeed not standing in front of you, and with almost certainty never will. On the other hand if he was it might be something along the lines of "Sorry dude". Which isn't how you feel but the other option "could" endanger you.
Say that the next time some dickbag manager lays off half his staff during a hallmark production year while claiming "The Economy" just so he and his fellow stockholders can have a few percentage points more on their dividends.
I do have to admit that I don't act in real life the same way I do in eve however.
I can't fly spaceships you see.
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SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.07 02:29:00 -
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EVE Roy Mustang wrote: Kinda sounds like King Cyberbully lol
I hope in twenty years we're all embarrassed for even using this term. |
SmilingVagrant
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Posted - 2012.06.07 23:00:00 -
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Alia Gon'die wrote:Knus'lar wrote:
You're wrong on this imo. People enjoy blowing up ships because its cathartic. People cry about losing ships because they get to attached to a game.
Clearly they enjoy blowing up spaceships because they are violent psychopaths who butcher kittens and eat the corpses of children.
What kind of children are we talking about here? |
SmilingVagrant
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Posted - 2012.06.07 23:02:00 -
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Olleybear wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Quote:I speak from real world experience from being in the military and observing human nature. If we remove that thin veneer of civilization, we quickly find out who the animals are...
Perhaps you should consider that people would complain because, as has been pointed out about 5000 times in this thread already, there is a difference between real life and a video game. That would be the point you are missing... repeatedly... and by a wide margin. The point Ranger 1 is making is valid. Step out of your 1st world, plentifull food and resources point of view for 1 second and take a look around. Ever seen news video here in the US of Black Friday? This lady pepper sprayed shoppers so she could get something she wanted to buy that was in limited supply.That is just one real world example of exactly the kind of behavior we are all talking about. Look up more black friday tales and see how quickly people let loose with the crazy and this is in the USA. Want more examples of the crazy? How about these cops that shot victims after the Katrina hurricane hit New Orleans.This also happened in the USA. Am I opening everyones eyes yet? These are not isolated incidents of a few crackpot fringe group numpties. These are your neighbors. Your neighbors play video games and some of them may even play Eve. We are just a few meals away from anarchy. Keep thinking that the behavior of some people in game, aka "Moar tears", are just your normal everyday nice guy. The only thing keeping these psychopaths from acting out more aggressively in real life is their bellies are full and their minds are entertained.
Yeah I kinda doubt crazy soccer moms who are trying to get the latest ZuZu pet for little Timmy are Eve online players.
I don't even leave the house on Black Friday. I haven't seen a sale yet that beats careful year round shopping from Amazon: And I can have them wrap it and deliver it to my door. |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:50:00 -
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Ilandrin Yona wrote:Quote:THIS IS A GAME, NOTHING MORE!!! Here in lies what I believe may be the crux of the issue. For some people Eve (and other MMOs) are more than just games. They are virtual worlds in which to live virtual lives. These are the people who get so upset when bad stuff happens to them in game. Respect their feelings or don't, but understand that for some Eve is not just a game.
Seek therapy. This isn't a troll post or a joke post, or me ******* with you.
If you are using Eve as a "Virtual world" to live out a "Virtual Life" to escape reality and it is "Not just a game to you" then you need to seek Therapy.
And bear in mind I say that knowing the standard American bias against therapy (Thanks Reagan). There is nothing wrong with getting therapy, and there is not a person on this earth so well adjusted throughout the entirety of their life that they couldn't benefit from talking with an impartial someone about their problems. |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:52:00 -
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Syndrea Caedrion wrote:Diablo Ex wrote:To be frankly honest here, a person's "Integrity" is measured by how they conduct themselves when nobody is looking. This game, and many aspects of the internet, are anonymous. This allows folks to act out as they want, without fear of consequences. You are as you imagine you are... Those who find enjoyment in ruining the day for others, and generally being a "sociopath" in game, is simply revealing their true inner nature. If they were to find themselves in an equally unconsequential situation, I expect that they would act out in real life as they do in game. Their only "restraint" if they are honest, is self-preservation. If they saw that they could gank and kill, without a danger of being caught, or permanently killed, they would not only do it, they would enjoy the thrill of it.
I speak from real world experience from being in the military and observing human nature. If we remove that thin veneer of civilization, we quickly find out who the animals are...
We also find out quickly who the whiny care bears are when a suicide bomber walks into your local restaurant... I don't expect to see many folks in the neighborhood making excuses for the bomber, or referring to a sandbox. I love intellectually honest people who can see through all the BS straight down to the core. One of the best posts I've read in a long time.
I think I'll wait till an accredited psychologist chimes in rather than assume "I'm in the military, i watched folk" guy is in any way correct in summing up the whole of the human psyche in one pat paragraph. Thanks. |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.08 01:04:00 -
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It's just a game dude. It's meant for entertainment. Nothing more: nothing less. If it's not achieving entertainment: Stop playing. If it's causing actual anguish and harm: Really stop playing.
I mean honestly the people that get so worked up in this game that they threaten real life violence (I've read some good ones lately, the latest is some guys violent hate kill fantasy he wants to enact on mittens at Fanfest) then they are too invested and need to unplug.
I've been camped into a station. I've lost ships that made a simple mining barge loss look rather anemic in terms of cost and they weren't reimbursed either. Due to the fact that I'm a goon, and I play eve with goons I'm regularly the target of some of the nastiest personal smear campaigns you have ever seen.
Want to know how much sleep I lose over it?
None. When I log out of the game for the night, I'm fine. Oh occasionally there will be the twang of regret, but that is usually over something I did that was stupid like going afk and dieing to rats because I warped in to close then had to take an emergency poop. But even that doesn't lose me sleep. It's a game. I laugh it off.
Now street fighter on the other hand pisses me off. That game ******* cheats. |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.08 01:14:00 -
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Disregard That wrote:Darth Tickles wrote:I refuse to be boxed in by people who can't separate a game from reality. If my in-game actions that are within the eula and tos are causing someone real mental anguish, that is their problem, not mine. If I find someone that can't handle losing in a game, I just won't play with them anymore. Unfortunately you don't have that option in Eve. Didn't Gary Kasparov have a conniption fit when he was beaten by Deep Blue? That dude needed to chill out, too! This just in! Eve Online, Chess: Now just games!
I have no problem with the statement that he needed to chill. |
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SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.08 03:14:00 -
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Knus'lar wrote: I have to say i agree. I dont think anyone is really fit to make statements on the whole of human psyche to be honest with you.
I mean I hate to be a **** to a serviceman and all, but "I'm in the military, I know these things" is probably ranked pretty high up there on the dumb things I've read on these forums when it comes to understanding human psychology, how the ID works, etc etc.
I mean imagine if any other person that wasn't protected by the gravitas of going to war had said that? He'd have been laughed out of the room.
"I work at the food court, I watched people... this is how people are..."
"I toiled away at the carwash. Rich peoples cars. Poor peoples cars. I've seen them all. I know how they behave."
I mean support our military ooh rah etc etc, but no matter how you butter it up he's basically been a member of one pack of poor folk, shooting at another pack of poor folk in the name of duty to some assholes who don't give a **** about them. When running the gamut of the human condition he's seen one of the nastier extremes sure. But that doesn't imply knowledge to any of the others.
Whatever, **** it. It sounds like I'm trying to drag the person down instead of the idea, which isn't quite right. |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.08 03:43:00 -
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Olleybear wrote:I too need to wait for someone else to inform me when "people are mean" and am unable to come to a rational conclusion based on years of experience living among people. As a matter of fact, just yesterday, some guy was hitting me repeatedly about the head. It was decided that both he and I would wait for some accredited 3rd party with a college degree to tell us whether or not what he was doing is wrong.
True story!
Now apply that to a video game. |
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