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Carniflex
Caldari Fallout Research Fallout Project
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Posted - 2009.08.22 09:09:00 -
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Originally by: Steve Thomas meh worse comes to worse they use a GM alt to buy up any surpluss and whos to know the diference.
That is highly unlikely scenario as possible fallout if this would go public would be far worse than little gain it can provide. CCP cares for EVE far too mutch to do something like that to it.
At the end of day it's ofc matter of trust. I for one are quite willing to trust CCP not to do something like that. There has been some issues and scandals over the years but they have always been quite open about those issues and put in considerable effort to smooth out the trust issues rising from those.
If the issue of surpulus PLEX would start to actually hurt then I'm sure they can come up with some other way to get that surpulus out from game. Most likley you could start using PLEX in EVE Store for those cofee cups and T-shirts if CCP think there is too many of those in game.
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Carniflex
Caldari Fallout Research Fallout Project
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Posted - 2009.08.22 17:57:00 -
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Originally by: Kinetic Wolf Edited by: Kinetic Wolf on 22/08/2009 17:23:08 lulz at speculators
btw today theres heavy undercutting on Jita 4-4. Im 99% sure someone is manipulating down, maybe to get a hundred of cheap PLEXes and then resell when prices go back to "regular" prices (320m).
While manipulation is quite possible data relased so far is suggesting that 320 mil will not be "regular" price in future as more PLEX is created than used up every day. If the new "regular" price will be 220 or 280 is impossible to really tell beforehand as that one depends on real people and thats damn hard to predict accurately. I myself would speculate on 250 mil area. ie 250 +/- 25 mil or so to be sustainable level considering the current supply and demand ratio.
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Carniflex
Caldari Fallout Research Fallout Project
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Posted - 2009.08.22 19:42:00 -
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Originally by: Iridescent Moon
Originally by: Fraps does anyone ever compare the RM/isk value of a plex/GTC versus the illegal 3rd party RM/isk conversion. I would think that would be a more interesting aspect to consider.
I think talking about RMT like that would get the post deleted.
That being said since I am towing the company line, RMT is not worth the risk. You can get more for your money but, you can also get the money stripped form the account and banned as well. If the ISK is stripped you blew your on RL cash and got nothing for it, if you spent the ISK you have a negative wallet and have to buy GTC anyway to get yourself out of the hole. If you did not care about being baned or the negative wallet.... you probably did not care enough to do RMT for ISK anyway. GTC is such a better way to go, for everyone... eccpet the RMT guys. They can go **** themselves anyway.
(soirry for the **** language )
Actually of late some RMT sites are more expencive than using just legal PLEX. At least as far as the spam they post in Jita local goes. Considering the amount of keylogger spam in the forums tho I think guy who uses RMT sites will have a far bigger problems than getting into negative wallet. Kinda like emtpy credit card kinda problems.
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Carniflex
Caldari Fallout Research Fallout Project
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Posted - 2009.08.23 14:25:00 -
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Originally by: Nyota Sol
Originally by: Steve Thomas the REAL demand is inelastic because not everyone bothers with mutiple accounts to the point that they need to fuel them with plex, and even then that tends to be offset by the people who would otherwise spend 100 or more a month on plex who buy them for themselves.
however the real supplie is elastic in that eventualy its not realy worth the bother to get more plex just to try to fuel whatever it is the person is trying to use plex topay for.
That doesnt seem very elastic to me. Either people have accounts they intend to keep going with PLEX or they do not. From what i've heard, the only cases where folks turn on/off accounts is when juggling research.
So, while i can imagine some instability in terms of people setting up alt accounts and then later deciding not to stick with it... I would assume plex USAGE is a fairly steady thing long-term.
I can't speak for average EVE player but I have alltogehter 5 accounts. When PLEX price increased I switched to paying for 2 of them with credit card (was paying only for my main with credit card before that). When PLEX kept going up I decided to mothball 5th and 4th of them. That took 3-4 months, to wrap stuff up on them and mothball (train characters to where I'm happy with them, transfer to emptied slots on remaining accounts). When PLEX hit 400 I sent my capital/combat alt inactive as I was busy in RL and thus it was too straining to run him on PLEX anymore.
Now that PLEX dropped to 300 my thrid account went back active. When it will hit 225-250 area my 4th account (that has still some useful chars on it) it might pick up again. To pick up my 5th account again PLEX would need to go into 200 mil area.
So people with multiple accounts can switch them on and off. It's just with some inertia, as it can take some time to "wrap up" if you are used to having 20 char slots available to go down to 12 slots. For example thinking thru where you need cyno alts and if you really need them in every locatin or reorganizing production chains by dropping less profitable items etc.
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