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Milant Lart
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Posted - 2009.08.02 21:12:00 -
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Is it me or has the range on these recently become Fubared? With pretty good skills and admittedly only using tech 1 ammo range is about 14k. Can anyone shed some light on this? Seriously wtf?
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.08.02 21:15:00 -
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Sounds like the ship bonus is not applying.
You're in a bomber, right?
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Milant Lart
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Posted - 2009.08.02 21:16:00 -
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Yep in a hound. I know tech 2 ammo would make a difference but atm only getting 14k range....not amused
Oh but cheers for the first quick reply
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Lindsay Logan
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Posted - 2009.08.02 21:19:00 -
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Edited by: Lindsay Logan on 02/08/2009 21:18:53 I am shooting toprs from 118km.
You are just doing it wrong
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.08.02 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Milant Lart Yep in a hound. I know tech 2 ammo would make a difference but atm only getting 14k range....not amused
Oh but cheers for the first quick reply
get out of ship, relog, re-enter ship?
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Milant Lart
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Posted - 2009.08.02 21:21:00 -
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Originally by: Lindsay Logan Edited by: Lindsay Logan on 02/08/2009 21:18:53 I am shooting toprs from 118km.
You are just doing it wrong
Hmm ok well thanks for the mega informative post, perhaps a little more info like your using dev hack launchers etc...
Seriously though have tested with someone else and same results....cant be only two of us noticing this Had decent range a couple of weeks ago
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Lindsay Logan
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Posted - 2009.08.02 21:23:00 -
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missile speed rigs + T2 javs + my awesome skills = 118km
On regular trops I got aobut 50 to 70km.
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Dash121
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Posted - 2009.08.02 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: Lindsay Logan Edited by: Lindsay Logan on 02/08/2009 21:18:53 I am shooting toprs from 118km.
You are just doing it wrong
So perhaps you would like to shed some light on your brilliance, and our stupidity, because my range has dropped from 60km to 12km. I bow to your greatness.
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Milant Lart
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Posted - 2009.08.02 21:30:00 -
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Thanks again for the quick replys
Have just relogged and left ship in space, then re-entered, still awful range.
Missile bombardment 4 Missile projection 3 And still only getting 8.4 secs with speed of 1950 m/s
I give up, going to sleep will check thread tommorrow, thanks for advice.
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Wooster Knite
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Posted - 2009.08.02 21:49:00 -
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warp core stabilizer ?
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Lindsay Logan
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Posted - 2009.08.02 21:57:00 -
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Have you tried fiering the torps? Cause you do know EVE's show info on missiles showes squat?
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Friggz
Dirt Nap Squad
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Posted - 2009.08.03 02:16:00 -
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SBs recieve a 10% flight time and velocity bonus per Racial Frigate rank. Since they require Frigates 5, that bonus has to be 50%
A regular torp has a base flight time of 6 seconds with a velocity of 1,500.
6 x (6 x 0.5) = 9 1500 x (1500 x 0.5) = 2250 9 x 2250 = 20250
This means with absolutely no skills beyond whats required to pilot it, the minimum possible range on your torps in a SB is 20km.
(unless my math is horribly wrong somehow)
________________________________________________ Love, Friggz
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A Ingus
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Posted - 2009.08.03 02:26:00 -
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open the fitting screen and do show info on the torps there. that is the only way i know to get an accurate readout of the missile velocity and flight time that i know of.
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.08.03 02:56:00 -
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Originally by: A Ingus open the fitting screen and do show info on the torps there. that is the only way i know to get an accurate readout of the missile velocity and flight time that i know of.
you could, gods forbid, do the math yourself!
its not even that hard.
Originally by: Akita T
Seriously ?
...wow... I'm such a forum ho' !
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Milant Lart
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Posted - 2009.08.03 04:47:00 -
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In answer to the above replies. No warp core stabs though that would only affect locking time so strange one that.
And yes i know eve lies sometimes so tested it out in space, missiles would not hit until i was just under 14km from target....
Totally get the maths which should mean i get much better range, duno what else to do apart from sell the ship.
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Kail Storm
Caldari Galactic Federation Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.03 05:20:00 -
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Warp Stabs would also cut your targeting range in half, So it would make sense you went from 28k to 14k, but you said you didnt so IDK???
Also was target moving away from you? Maybe MWDing away from your slow ass torp If you run, You`ll only die tired :) |
Comodore John
Gallente QunSegh Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2009.08.03 06:43:00 -
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did you account for missile acceleration?
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.08.03 07:28:00 -
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Originally by: Comodore John did you account for missile acceleration?
Did you actually bother reading the topic? (No need to answer, it is clear you didnt).
If your stealth bomber isnt rigged, repackage it and assemble it again. Otherwise try stripping fitting (at least the launchers + ammo), and fitting it again + leaving/re-entering the ship.
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baltec1
Antares Shipyards Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.08.03 07:40:00 -
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Post your setup so I can see if I can repeat your problem.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.08.03 08:55:00 -
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There's a pretty nasty bug with boarding ships in space, where bonuses from skills no longer apply. You may need to dock at a station and re-board the ship there.
EVE issues|Mining revamp|Build stuff|Make ISK |
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Exlegion
Caldari Salva Veritate
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Posted - 2009.08.03 11:46:00 -
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Are you using the faction bomber's racial torpedo type (ie, kinetic for Manticore, etc)? I believe that makes a difference. The bonuses only apply to the racial torp for that specific ship.
One of us equals many of us. Disrespect one of us, you'll see plenty of us. - Gang Starr |
Lindsay Logan
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Posted - 2009.08.03 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T There's a pretty nasty bug with boarding ships in space, where bonuses from skills no longer apply. You may need to dock at a station and re-board the ship there.
Sounds like OP is expereincing this.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.08.03 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: Exlegion Are you using the faction bomber's racial torpedo type (ie, kinetic for Manticore, etc)? I believe that makes a difference. The bonuses only apply to the racial torp for that specific ship.
That's only damage, not range.
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handsome rob
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Posted - 2009.08.03 12:25:00 -
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Repackage the ship, always helps with these problems.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.08.03 12:47:00 -
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Originally by: Lindsay Logan
Originally by: Akita T There's a pretty nasty bug with boarding ships in space, where bonuses from skills no longer apply. You may need to dock at a station and re-board the ship there.
Sounds like OP is expereincing this.
Almost certainly.
EVE issues|Mining revamp|Build stuff|Make ISK |
Comodore John
Gallente QunSegh Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2009.08.03 14:32:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer
Originally by: Comodore John did you account for missile acceleration?
Did you actually bother reading the topic? (No need to answer, it is clear you didnt).
If your stealth bomber isnt rigged, repackage it and assemble it again. Otherwise try stripping fitting (at least the launchers + ammo), and fitting it again + leaving/re-entering the ship.
i read it, idk why his skills arent applying but with the bonuses of the ship he gets 20km, with acceleration thats a little less so that might explain 14km.
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Mendolus
Aurelius Federation Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.08.03 15:28:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Lindsay Logan
Originally by: Akita T There's a pretty nasty bug with boarding ships in space, where bonuses from skills no longer apply. You may need to dock at a station and re-board the ship there.
Sounds like OP is expereincing this.
Almost certainly.
Yep, confirmed, I have had this happen to me multiple times in T2 Frigate hulls only, and have heard of it happening in other hulls. Out of maybe half a dozen circumstances, I have only seen once where packing the ship and then reassembling it did not solve the problem.
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Milant Lart
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Posted - 2009.08.03 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T There's a pretty nasty bug with boarding ships in space, where bonuses from skills no longer apply. You may need to dock at a station and re-board the ship there.
Thanks again for all the replies, most were informative
Sounds like this could be the answer as have been boarding from out of a carrier and not a station. Will try repacking it later tonight. Still a pain in the a.. bug though, means ill have to check the ship each time i board it...
And to the other questions: 1) Yes WCS reduce your targeting range but they wont effect your weapons range, though maybe they should 2) Am using explosive torps with the hound but again that should not effect the range. 3) Setup was merely 3 arbalest torp launchers, mwd, painter II, targeting damp, and bcs in lows.
again thanks for replies, if it is a bug will report it so it could be fixed by this time next year.
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Milant Lart
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Posted - 2009.08.03 18:14:00 -
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Stupid bug... Just logged in and now range is 49k.... Thanks for replys
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