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Baba Ganouche
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Posted - 2009.07.07 04:22:00 -
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Edited by: Baba Ganouche on 07/07/2009 04:22:27 A friend of mine is getting constantly can-flipped while mining in his Bantam and is getting pretty aggravated, so I'd like to go to the systems where he's had the most problems and see if I can bait them. My skills are pretty lackluster but what do you think of this basic setup?
[Osprey, New Setup 1] Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II
Large Shield Extender I 10MN Afterburner I Warp Scrambler I Stasis Webifier I
Medium Energy Neutralizer I Assault Missile Launcher I, Bloodclaw Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher I, Bloodclaw Light Missile Miner I
[empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot]
Hobgoblin II x4
Tech I stuff replaced with named if I need to, but I'd rather keep it as cheap as possible. Basically I'm looking for a ship that can kill T1 frigates. --- live every week like it's shark week |
Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2009.07.07 04:35:00 -
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Better idea is to have you flying a PvP ship, you drop the can for your friend, he sits in belt and actually mines into it.
When the can flipper comes along, he flips your can, you get shooting rights on him. So make sure you're flying a ship which really is capable of killing can flippers.
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Baba Ganouche
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Posted - 2009.07.07 04:41:00 -
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Maybe something like this?
[Caracal, New Setup 1] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
Y-S8 Hydrocarbon I Afterburners J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Target Painter I Large Shield Extender II
'Arbalest' Assault Missile Launcher, Bloodclaw Light Missile 'Arbalest' Assault Missile Launcher, Bloodclaw Light Missile 'Arbalest' Assault Missile Launcher, Bloodclaw Light Missile 'Arbalest' Assault Missile Launcher, Bloodclaw Light Missile 'Arbalest' Assault Missile Launcher, Bloodclaw Light Missile
[empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot]
Hobgoblin II x2
--- live every week like it's shark week |
ThaDollaGenerale
The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.07.07 05:54:00 -
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Edited by: ThaDollaGenerale on 07/07/2009 05:55:28 This one has a mining laser for full effect and permaruns the neut.
[Osprey, New Setup 1] Reactor Control Unit I Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II
Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Stasis Webifier I Warp Scrambler II
XeCl Drilling Beam I 50W Infectious Power System Malfunction 'Malkuth' Assault Missile Launcher I, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile 'Malkuth' Assault Missile Launcher I, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile
[empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot]
Warrior II x4
woops, I hadn't updated after making a few mods
try this one
[Osprey, New Setup 1] Damage Control II Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II
Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Stasis Webifier I Warp Scrambler II
XeCl Drilling Beam I 50W Infectious Power System Malfunction 'Malkuth' Assault Missile Launcher I, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile 'Malkuth' Assault Missile Launcher I, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile
[empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot]
Warrior II x4
8k shield 70 DPS + 1 medium permarun neut
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Gartel Reiman
Civis Romanus Sum Pax Romana Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.07 07:58:00 -
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Originally by: ThaDollaGenerale This one has a mining laser for full effect and permaruns the neut.
I don't think you'd need to permarun the neut - frigates/destroyers would be capped out after a couple of cycles, and you can't realistically take on anything bigger.
The OPs setup looks sound, though as you've shown he could swap the OB for a second LSE; I expect that would theoretically be better, but neither should have a problem with a single frigate/destroyer anyway.
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Flying ZombieJesus
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Posted - 2009.07.07 11:49:00 -
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Bantam eh...
I'll be right there to flip his can.
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yani dumyat
Minmatar Infusion. Sc0rched Earth
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Posted - 2009.07.07 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: Mara Rinn Better idea is to have you flying a PvP ship, you drop the can for your friend, he sits in belt and actually mines into it.
When the can flipper comes along, he flips your can, you get shooting rights on him. So make sure you're flying a ship which really is capable of killing can flippers.
This ^^
[Caracal, anti can flipper] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
10MN Afterburner II Warp Disruptor II X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Large Shield Extender II
Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Warrior II x2
AML caracal's a proven frig killer If they ship up into an AF or are operating in a gang you might want the speed and EHP of the cookie cutter pvp caracal:
[Caracal, light assault] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
10MN MicroWarpdrive II Warp Scrambler II Stasis Webifier II Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II
Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Warrior II x2
Swap T2 for named depending of skills and budget.
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Brego Tralowski
Gallente Dead space evolution
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Posted - 2009.07.07 15:16:00 -
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I have this 'friend' who flips cans and alsorts of other pirate stuff, he uses a Wolf. Baiting in an Osprey will do you no good, you'd be dead before cutting through 25% of my 'cough' his shields.
Remember that pirates tend to be heavily PvP skilled and a new(ish) guy flying a cruiser will die if you take the bait and fire on him, which is what he wants of course.
Your better off removing the opportunity and have a corpmate haul for you. -----------------------------------------------
Fly safe, but not too safe! |
Bootleg Greg
Minmatar CHILL Industries
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Posted - 2009.07.07 15:54:00 -
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Step 1. You create a can and place your ore in it Step 2. You then cloak in a force recon ship Step 3. Place carebear friend in mining ship next to it Step 4. ???????? Step 5. Dead can flipper
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Tar om
Minmatar Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.07 16:31:00 -
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I'm pretty sure a Wolf pilot would have to be asleep for the recon pilot to lock him after decloaking... -- Come join the carebear napfest train, everyone is welcome! |
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Enden Assulu
Caldari Blood Money Inc.
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Posted - 2009.07.07 16:38:00 -
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Yeah the frigate pilot would have to be made of uber fail not to warp out
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General Trajan
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.07.07 17:04:00 -
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Edited by: General Trajan on 07/07/2009 17:07:01 use a battleship. fit half mining lasers and half...........smartbombs
when the flipper is at your can just press the "extra crispy" button and continue to mine undesturbed
p.s. make sure you're fitting large smartboms so to be clear on this.
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dark slanesh
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Posted - 2009.07.07 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: General Trajan
use a battleship. fit half mining lasers and half...........smartbombs
when the flipper is at your can just press the "extra crispy" button and get horribly owned by concord
p.s. make sure you're fitting large smartboms so to be clear on this.
Fixed to point out the obvious failing, now go back to C+P troll
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Footoo Rama
Gallente Caldari Illuminati
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Posted - 2009.07.08 04:49:00 -
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Originally by: Bootleg Greg Step 1. You create a can and place your ore in it Step 2. You then cloak in a force recon ship Step 3. Place carebear friend in mining ship next to it Step 4. ???????? Step 5. Dead can flipper
Yup I use an Arazu for just this... ------- "Because the Dominix is the Chuck Norris of Eve!" |
Lady Aja
Caldari The White Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2009.07.08 05:31:00 -
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baitincan flippers does not always work...
I admit i have fallen for a few when i was stealing ore.. but more often than not i didnt.
what I did was to set the players corp to -10 towards my self. check how many is in local. then decide how much trouble its going to be.
I would then fly out in a hauler warp core stabbed to the max. take from thier can into mine, take as much ore back as possible with me... then fly back and tractor the rest to me. and repeat till can is empty.
Sometimes i would fit a passive ship targetter and ship scanner, more often than not i would know for sure how safe i was.
I got some of the coolest fights that way...
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Lady Aja
Caldari The White Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2009.07.08 05:33:00 -
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Originally by: General Trajan Edited by: General Trajan on 07/07/2009 17:07:01 use a battleship. fit half mining lasers and half...........smartbombs
when the flipper is at your can just press the "extra crispy" button and continue to mine undesturbed
p.s. make sure you're fitting large smartboms so to be clear on this.
lmao i would have died laffing long before i took youre can... then would have set up anti can baiters trap.
High sec and concord do not mix AT ALL.
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Zo5o
Broski Enterprises Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.07.08 05:45:00 -
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Just wanted to add that you should probably do the baiting with as new of a character as possible.
The older your character is, the less likely the (smart) flippers are going to flip a cruiser.
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