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Capt Retard
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Posted - 2009.06.01 19:51:00 -
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We have been resident in WH space in an L4 system for 3 weeks now. We consitently get connections to L2 WHs that then connect to hisec/lowsec. Each day we have been probing out our hi(lo)sec exit and we have only twice been connected to non-Amarr space.
Is it just me, or is this an indication that Amarr connects to more L2 systems than anywhere else?
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Metsino Konchura
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Posted - 2009.06.01 20:15:00 -
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Interesting to read this - seems similar to what we have been finding.
We have a POS in a class 2 WH system. Every day there is a WH to a class 4 system, and 1 or 2 exits to hi-sec. We entered the WH from the Forge, but every exit is 25-30 jumps away from our empire base and always in Amarr space. I figured we were just having bad luck but if others are seeing the same thing then maybe there is more to it....
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lo breeze
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Posted - 2009.06.01 20:20:00 -
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Amarr space is vast.
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Some Advisor
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Posted - 2009.06.01 20:59:00 -
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Edited by: Some Advisor on 01/06/2009 21:00:04
Originally by: lo breeze Amarr space is vast.
was thinking myself that exits are skewed towards amarr, but then.. amar space seems bigger so it adds up
its odd when youre in same region and that sell order is 23 jump away
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Capt Retard
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Posted - 2009.06.01 22:56:00 -
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Originally by: Some Advisor
was thinking myself that exits are skewed towards amarr, but then.. amar space seems bigger so it adds up ...
But is it 10x the size of all other space combined? And with others seeing the same issue is this really normal - statistically correct. Hell, even the two non-amarr ones we have had were so close to Amarr space that it made little difference.
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lo breeze
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Posted - 2009.06.01 23:04:00 -
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Edited by: lo breeze on 01/06/2009 23:05:39 Edited by: lo breeze on 01/06/2009 23:05:17
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But is it 10x the size of all other space combined? And with others seeing the same issue is this really normal - statistically correct. Hell, even the two non-amarr ones we have had were so close to Amarr space that it made little difference.
We're not talking about all other space combined so I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to prove. Nullsec makes up the vast majority of New Eden's systems. Take a look at a Hisec map and look how much of it is Amarr space.
Oh, and BTW... if you want to talk about statistics, go talk to a thousand people over the next month, THEN we'll talk statistics.
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Capt Retard
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Posted - 2009.06.01 23:48:00 -
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Originally by: lo breeze
We're not talking about all other space combined so I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to prove. Nullsec makes up the vast majority of New Eden's systems. Take a look at a Hisec map and look how much of it is Amarr space.
Oh, and BTW... if you want to talk about statistics, go talk to a thousand people over the next month, THEN we'll talk statistics.
Where did I mention nullsec? I postulated a small observation over time about high/lowsec, someone else seems to have noted this. L2 exits appearing in Amarr space. Trying to prove - nope, nothing. Lets hope those thousands respond.
The statistics so far seem to back up that observation. Do you have anything to offer in terms of your WH experience wrt exits appearing in Amarr or otherwise?
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Some Advisor
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Posted - 2009.06.02 00:34:00 -
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"usually" i end up somewhere in/near amarr space. but lately i also got a few to minmatar, caldari, gallente.
now that i got used to "amarr" trading hub (some prices are betetr there btw kust saying you jita prayers lol) i get farther away from that :-/
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Axaeli
Gallente Shadewraith Cargo and Industry
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Posted - 2009.06.02 01:52:00 -
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I've been sitting in a class 2 wormhole system for about 3 weeks now. It always has a B274 wormhole to highsec, and an O477 to a class 3 system. At least in those three weeks, I've never been without those two, one closes and is replaced immediately.
The B274 has done a tour around all of high sec, I've seen most of the regions at this point. I haven't thought to track the systems it visits in what order, might be interesting to see how random it is. I do know I entered from Sinq, and it's returned to Sinq twice so far. I've seen it go to Amarr space twice.
With a lifetime of 24 hours with this wormhole though, it'll take a while to come up with a nontrivial set of data.
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ReguIator
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Posted - 2009.06.02 02:22:00 -
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I too, have been noticing non-random drops... my lowsec drop nearly always pokes out into amarr space; but out of 11 U210's now, 3 of them were the same system; 5 the same region... it has dropped in a gallente 0.3 once, and caldari 0.1 once.
However; I can't really complain that their trying to influx traffic into amarr space... I mean... I sat on the jita gate for 2 hours yesterday; waiting for the "traffic advisory" to clear, so I could jump in. We could use a more diversified trade hub. This however is way off topic.
I beleive that presence has more to do with spawns than we thought. Everyone agrees that an anchored pos, and/or the system being occupied; causes less respawns, right? Immagine if that also influences incoming wormholes... IE; an incoming hisec wormhole has less of a chance to spawn; if the system is occupied, for instance..
Just my 2 pyreals.
-Reg
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Har Donmon
LB's Hole Mongers
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Posted - 2009.06.02 05:20:00 -
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Quote: Where did I mention nullsec? I postulated a small observation over time about high/lowsec, someone else seems to have noted this. L2 exits appearing in Amarr space. Trying to prove - nope, nothing. Lets hope those thousands respond.
The statistics so far seem to back up that observation. Do you have anything to offer in terms of your WH experience wrt exits appearing in Amarr or otherwise?
So you and one other constitutes statistical data? I live in a class 2, it exits everywhere. More amarr systems = a geater chance of an amarr exit.
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Capt Retard
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Posted - 2009.06.02 11:07:00 -
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Originally by: Har Donmon
So you and one other constitutes statistical data? I live in a class 2, it exits everywhere. More amarr systems = a geater chance of an amarr exit. If I roll a perfectly even die 4 .... YAWN YAWN YAWN .. now, can it?
Good god - another moron from the 'you are wrong' camp.
There was no mention of RIGHT OR WRONG you dumb turd. Look at the OP. Telling me about your nice set of dice merley makes for another cruddy thread of pointless posturing - and youre "I live in a class 2 - it exits everywhere" would have been enough.
It was simply a request for people to note their observations about wormholes exits appearing in Amarr space (or not). The 'statistical' reference was a lightly made remark about those who had managed to read the OP and respond with useful information.
DO YOU SEE THAT - or are you desperate to get something dull going about your dice rolling skills and obvious bent on statistics. Hell, get a job in teaching, you'll be great there.
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Back to the OP - our current exit is to Amarr again. LOL, I rolled and got a 6.
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Gentle Behn
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Posted - 2009.06.02 11:54:00 -
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If i didn't notice any interesting incosistences with connections to class 2 wh systems would i bother to reply to this thread or record that nothing of interest happened? Probably not!
For my 2 cent though and since the last guy got such a slamming for saying it. (you enjoyed beating on the "your wrong tard" just a little too much there Cap ) Often it is into amarr space but i've seen nothing to surgest this is more than just because of the amount of amarr empire system.
I will be keeping an eye out more so in future though. Isn't randomness defined by it's stiking patterns. Another nice contradiction
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Har Donmon
LB's Hole Mongers
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Posted - 2009.06.02 14:00:00 -
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Edited by: Har Donmon on 02/06/2009 14:01:54
Quote: Good god - another moron from the 'you are wrong' camp.
There was no mention of RIGHT OR WRONG you dumb turd. Look at the OP. Telling me about your nice set of dice merley makes for another cruddy thread of pointless posturing - and youre "I live in a class 2 - it exits everywhere" would have been enough.
It was simply a request for people to note their observations about wormholes exits appearing in Amarr space (or not). The 'statistical' reference was a lightly made remark about those who had managed to read the OP and respond with useful information.
DO YOU SEE THAT - or are you desperate to get something dull going about your dice rolling skills and obvious bent on statistics. Hell, get a job in teaching, you'll be great there.
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Back to the OP - our current exit is to Amarr again. LOL, I rolled and got a 6.
Glad to see your name captures your mental capacity quite well. You were the one who stated statistics twice. ******. Got another exit to Hisec, to Sinq-laison.
Have a nice time with all your Amarr exits, turd... LOL.
Grade school is that way -----------------> I think the lunch bell is about to ring, better hurry!!
Edit: CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR TEH COOL PPL
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Slave 2739FKZ
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Posted - 2009.06.02 14:25:00 -
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I read a thread about some people giving oponions about a matter without any statistically relevant sample size.
Is this industry forum and one of these "have they changed inventionz!?" threads?
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Capt Retard
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Posted - 2009.06.02 14:50:00 -
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Originally by: Har Donmon
Glad ... YAWN YAWN ... TEH COOL PPL
Baited, bit.
OP relinquishes control of thread to the towering intellect of Han D'osmond. Then steps over it and his amazing dice.
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lo breeze
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Posted - 2009.06.02 14:59:00 -
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I know Slave. Any point otherwise and he makes fun of it, just like any other idiot who thinks something is stupid if he himself doesn't understand.
Keep making fun of the dice, then come back when you understand even the slightest iota of the concept of probability. Maybe then you'll figure out why you see lots of Amarr exits if every 2/5 systems is in fact Amarr....
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Scrwloose
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Posted - 2009.06.02 16:24:00 -
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/me resists the urge to state that he rolled a natural 20, and fails
I rolled a natural 20! I win! The strange thing is I was rolling percentile dice...
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ArcDragon
Caldari FUSION INDUSTRIES
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Posted - 2009.06.03 20:56:00 -
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Yup, I have definatly noticed a much greater chance to pop out in Amarr space than ANY others, even if you combined all the null, high and low sec WHs.
I remember in some patch notes? that CCP had an "error" in their WH models that was causing them to bunch up and that it was corrected in said patch. If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested. |
El Liptonez
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Posted - 2009.06.06 17:02:00 -
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Confirming I'm noticing the same in my C2 WH. Connects to low sec everyday (almost amarr only, some khanid) and to another C2. The empire WHs in there like always connect to amarr space.
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Rab See
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.06.08 11:56:00 -
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Yup - odd one, our L2 is 90% connecting to Amarr space, after 5 weeks now, every day, we haul out loot/ore/mins and dump in nearest station.
Guess what ... all of my assets are now in Amarr space. When hauling out, if we get a WH collapse, we just hang around till the next gets found, voila - 6 to 10 jumps is typical, occasionally a bit more.
My suspicion is that when a new exit is spawned, it picks a quiet system, and as most hisec is amarr, and amarr space seems very quiet, then our new WH pops out there!
Given that, we got an exceptionally odd exit last night in Auvergne - 220 in local .. ugh. |
Liteshow
Caldari The Leather Knights Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2009.06.08 18:52:00 -
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Just to add to the "statistics," i found a WH in Caldari space leading to a class 2 (not a K162). That WH collapsed (due to time out) shortly after I went in, I scanned out another one in system and it lead to Amarr space, but was also "at the end of it's lifespan." After it collapsed, I scanned out another exit (presumably a replacement for 1 of the 2 collapsed exits), and it went to another Amarr hi-sec system. The only other exit lead to a class 3. I can see how this could lead to all the posts about how they tend to lean towards Amarr space...
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