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Securitas Protector
Final Conflict UK Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.04.27 04:38:00 -
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Hello MD, this is my references thread for future investments, so people can have a look-see and try to gauge my trustworthiness all in one short package.
Current Ventures
NVRSTOP Investment Lottery - Always available for more investment. BlueBank(same post as above) - Phased expansion
Past Ventures Eve-Mag Official Lottery 1 Eve-Mag Official Lottery 2
A very long time ago - Can't find it on the normal forums, thus eve-search. Many are absent because of the damages of time, so I located as many as I could. Free Lottery 1 Free Lottery 4/5(with satrani) Free Lottery 6 Lottery 7 Free Lottery 9(yes we somehow do tend to skip numbers) Nonfree Lottery 9 Lottery 11 Free Lottery 12 The Eve Exploratory Project Free Lottery 13 Microlottery 1
Thank you all and I hope to earn your trust and make an entrance here in MD someday. I've been doing a lot of work in the background over the past few years, so I guess I'll see if it pays off.
Thanks,
Securitas
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HawkBlade
Minmatar The Higher Standard Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2009.04.27 05:11:00 -
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Originally by: Securitas Protector Thank you all and I hope to earn your trust and make an entrance here in MD someday. I've been doing a lot of work in the background over the past few years, so I guess I'll see if it pays off.
I'm going to do you a favor by making this a popular thread. I'm going to flame you a little bit and that will bring my trolls out to whine and moan. Supposedly for your benefit but really just because losers are so predictable. Speaking of predictable, cross posting lame lotteries into MD is very very predictable. So much so that I have no doubt that the report I submit, about this being a cross posted [Service] thread, will see this thing locked instead of moved. After all, this is not actually a new thread just a regurgitation of all the old crap you've been doing. There you go. You may thank me later. Perhaps in a lame cross post in General Discussion.
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Power Sauce
Kenzzoku
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Posted - 2009.04.27 05:21:00 -
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Originally by: Securitas Protector
Quoting the content of the op.
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Securitas Protector
Final Conflict UK Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.04.27 05:23:00 -
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Originally by: HawkBlade
Originally by: Securitas Protector Thank you all and I hope to earn your trust and make an entrance here in MD someday. I've been doing a lot of work in the background over the past few years, so I guess I'll see if it pays off.
I'm going to do you a favor by making this a popular thread. I'm going to flame you a little bit and that will bring my trolls out to whine and moan. Supposedly for your benefit but really just because losers are so predictable. Speaking of predictable, cross posting lame lotteries into MD is very very predictable. So much so that I have no doubt that the report I submit, about this being a cross posted [Service] thread, will see this thing locked instead of moved. After all, this is not actually a new thread just a regurgitation of all the old crap you've been doing. There you go. You may thank me later. Perhaps in a lame cross post in General Discussion.
It is very much not a crossposted [service] thread. It puts together all my services and acts as a place that I can link investors to instead of copy-pasting all of my individual links. As well, it is the official MD investment post as I phase traffic from Events & Gatherings to MD, as BlueBank really is not an event. Thank you for your concern, but it is unnecessary.
Thanks,
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Power Sauce
Kenzzoku
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Posted - 2009.04.27 05:25:00 -
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Originally by: Securitas Protector As well, it is the official MD investment post as I phase traffic from Events & Gatherings to MD, as BlueBank really is not an event. Thank you for your concern, but it is unnecessary.
Thanks,
Securitas.
Where is the investment?
Are you saying no one should concern themselves with this thread?
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YouGotRipped
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2009.04.27 05:25:00 -
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Originally by: Securitas Protector Hello MD, this is my references thread for future investments, so people can have a look-see and try to gauge my trustworthiness all in one short package.
If you believe running a small lottery (taking money and giving back less after a while) is going to get you somewhere in MD (jackpot) you're wrong, Ethereal Dawn minion.
You 0.0 based alliances members really got some nerve coming here and expecting someone to fall for it.
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Evthron Macyntire
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Posted - 2009.04.27 05:26:00 -
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Originally by: Power Sauce
Originally by: Securitas Protector
Quoting the content of the op.
Haha. ------------------------------ Sigs like this. |
Securitas Protector
Final Conflict UK Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.04.27 05:28:00 -
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Edited by: Securitas Protector on 27/04/2009 05:33:24
Originally by: Power Sauce
Originally by: Securitas Protector As well, it is the official MD investment post as I phase traffic from Events & Gatherings to MD, as BlueBank really is not an event. Thank you for your concern, but it is unnecessary.
Thanks,
Securitas.
Where is the investment?
Are you saying no one should concern themselves with this thread?
NVRSTOP is an investment in and of itself, the returns are simply given in lottery-based form. Additionally, BlueBank is also an investment. Additionally, the posted lotteries are there to give you an idea of the ISK I've handled in the past. If you do not believe they have any value, feel free to ignore them.
Originally by: YouGotRipped Please post such "relevant" info in MD only when you're launching a bond / IPO and you're asked for credentials.
Only one of my "advertised" lotteries is active, and it is an investment, if an alternative one. Thus, it falls under the MD category, unless you'd like to suggest a better one. Please keep discussion constructive.
Thanks,
Securitas. Proud to be shaych |
Power Sauce
Kenzzoku
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Posted - 2009.04.27 05:32:00 -
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Originally by: Securitas Protector
NVRSTOP is an investment in and of itself, the returns are simply given in lottery-based form. Additionally, BlueBank is also an investment. Additionally, the posted lotteries are there to give you an idea of the ISK I've handled in the past. If you do not believe they have any value, feel free to ignore thtem.
Thanks,
Securitas.
A lottery has a negative expected return so that is not an investment.
The bluebank return is unknown with an estimate of 2-5% monthly return. Too low and too for me but may interest someone.
A summary would have been useful.
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YouGotRipped
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2009.04.27 05:33:00 -
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Originally by: Securitas Protector
NVRSTOP is an investment in and of itself, the returns are simply given in lottery-based form. Additionally, BlueBank is also an investment. Additionally, the posted lotteries are there to give you an idea of the ISK I've handled in the past. If you do not believe they have any value, feel free to ignore them.
Thanks,
Securitas.
Please request the post to be moved to Sell orders or remove the links to your lotteries.
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Securitas Protector
Final Conflict UK Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.04.27 05:35:00 -
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Originally by: Power Sauce
Originally by: Securitas Protector
NVRSTOP is an investment in and of itself, the returns are simply given in lottery-based form. Additionally, BlueBank is also an investment. Additionally, the posted lotteries are there to give you an idea of the ISK I've handled in the past. If you do not believe they have any value, feel free to ignore thtem.
Thanks,
Securitas.
A lottery has a negative expected return so that is not an investment.
NVRSTOP has a positive expected return as one never loses one's "ticket" or investment, and when I close the investment, if ever, all tickets will be refunded. Proud to be shaych |
Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries
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Posted - 2009.04.27 05:38:00 -
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Edited by: Ji Sama on 27/04/2009 05:42:04
Originally by: Power Sauce
Originally by: Securitas Protector
Quoting the content of the op.
nou
edit: only people totally blank would invest in this..
hey we dont know what kind of income we will generate... how do we get people to invest in us? a valid and thought through businessplan? logical and rational argumentation? nah **** that.. well just say: U WINZORZ FREE RAVEN NOW INVESTZORZ
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YouGotRipped
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2009.04.27 05:41:00 -
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Originally by: Power Sauce
Originally by: Securitas Protector
Quoting the content of the op.
Here is his original post before he edited to make it seem less like something that belongs into the Sell orders section of the forum.
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Power Sauce
Kenzzoku
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Posted - 2009.04.27 05:42:00 -
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I would recommend rewriting the entire op and explain (in short) the investments. The links are too wordy for the information provided to bother reading them.
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Frenden Dax
Dax Acquisitions
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Posted - 2009.04.27 05:44:00 -
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Blast, Shar got in first.
Originally by: Securitas Protector NVRSTOP is an investment in and of itself, the returns are simply given in lottery-based form.
No it's not, it's a lotto. To synopsize your 'business plan', people paid you 5m per 'share' (ticket) and were told that maybe, at some point in the future, they might win a random prize. They weren't told "you'll get your 'investment' back plus interest" or even "you'll get your 'investment' back." So far you have paid out 16.5m total over two months on a balance of 545m. That is ATROCIOUS. I could make more money begging in Jita local. And again, it's not an investment, it's a lotto. You yourself admit this, because your thread concerning it has "[NVRSTOP] Securitas' Neverending Lottery" in the title.
Also I liked where you said "I am not responsible for the failings of investments." That really made me trust you, because obviously a person who admits that what he's doing is dicey and could fail is a trusted paragon of the secondary market.
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Securitas Protector
Final Conflict UK Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.04.27 05:47:00 -
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Edited by: Securitas Protector on 27/04/2009 05:48:41
Originally by: YouGotRipped
Originally by: Power Sauce
Originally by: Securitas Protector
Quoting the content of the op.
Here is his original post before he edited to make it seem less like something that belongs into the Sell orders section of the forum.
As the massive negative response told me, my original post was extremely unclear. It has been modified to make it more clear. Whether or not you'd like to invest is your own choice, but please refrain from posting unless you have something constructive to say. I don't understand what people are not getting, I have 2 investment options and a list of past operations where I have handled public ISK. You can either chose to invest or not, that's all there is to it.
It'd be very nice if people would stop trying to find hidden motives behind a fairly simple concept, and post if they'd like to participate.
Originally by: Frenden Dax So far you have paid out 16.5m total over two months on a balance of 545m. That is ATROCIOUS.
Don't like it? Don't invest. Simple as.
Thanks,
Securitas. Proud to be shaych |
Power Sauce
Kenzzoku
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Posted - 2009.04.27 05:48:00 -
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Frenden Dax what is your issue here? Just because the payout is lower than a ponzi scheme does not mean that it isn't an investment.
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The ChurchWarden
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Posted - 2009.04.27 05:48:00 -
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Ok maybe I'm reading this wrong
Ticket Price: 5,000,000 ISK each Ticket Limit: None --- 2nd Drawing: Timestamp: 2009-04-04 21:39:47 UTC Ticket Number: 38 Winner: Worken Gasive Prize: 12,000,000.00 ISK Status: Paid
So In this we know there are atleast 38 tickets at 5m so you'd have 190m and you paid out 12m so you did 6% return... To one person. Possibly the best type of investment plan for the manager ever. I mean can you imagine of people only had to pay one investor 6%? Maybe I'm reading this wrong but if I'm not then you've technically scammed a bunch of morons who are willing to have a 1 in 38 chance [assuming they have only one ticket a piece] to make a return on investment.
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Securitas Protector
Final Conflict UK Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.04.27 05:52:00 -
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Edited by: Securitas Protector on 27/04/2009 05:54:20
Originally by: The ChurchWarden Ok maybe I'm reading this wrong
Ticket Price: 5,000,000 ISK each Ticket Limit: None --- 2nd Drawing: Timestamp: 2009-04-04 21:39:47 UTC Ticket Number: 38 Winner: Worken Gasive Prize: 12,000,000.00 ISK Status: Paid
So In this we know there are atleast 38 tickets at 5m so you'd have 190m and you paid out 12m so you did 6% return... To one person. Possibly the best type of investment plan for the manager ever. I mean can you imagine of people only had to pay one investor 6%? Maybe I'm reading this wrong but if I'm not then you've technically scammed a bunch of morons who are willing to have a 1 in 38 chance [assuming they have only one ticket a piece] to make a return on investment.
My history is very clear, I've never scammed anyone before, and you can ask any of my investors, I haven't scammed anyone yet. The principle is new just as I am to the investment field. I am learning as the investment evolves and I'm predicting a higher return now than ever before. Before this month I was simply using Dynasty Bank, as I've said all along. If you'd like to speak to me more about it, great.
For those unclear on BlueBank, 2-5% was only entirely accurate for the first month, and next month(the blueprints were just purchased this month and research started a little late) I'm estimating a 150m return on 500m investment. If you have any questions feel free to ask my research/blueprint manager Alesk Remo. Proud to be shaych |
Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries
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Posted - 2009.04.27 05:53:00 -
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Originally by: Securitas Protector Edited by: Securitas Protector on 27/04/2009 05:48:41
Originally by: YouGotRipped
Originally by: Power Sauce
Originally by: Securitas Protector
Quoting the content of the op.
Here is his original post before he edited to make it seem less like something that belongs into the Sell orders section of the forum.
As the massive negative response told me, my original post was extremely unclear. It has been modified to make it more clear. Whether or not you'd like to invest is your own choice, but please refrain from posting unless you have something constructive to say. I don't understand what people are not getting, I have 2 investment options and a list of past operations where I have handled public ISK. You can either chose to invest or not, that's all there is to it.
It'd be very nice if people would stop trying to find hidden motives behind a fairly simple concept, and post if they'd like to participate.
Originally by: Frenden Dax So far you have paid out 16.5m total over two months on a balance of 545m. That is ATROCIOUS.
Don't like it? Don't invest. Simple as.
Thanks,
Securitas.
this isnt an investment its a lotto....
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Selina Candor
Chernobyl Trading Corporation
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Posted - 2009.04.27 05:54:00 -
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NVRSTOP 'Lotto':
Quote: Prize Size: Based on the number of tickets in the pot and investments - seriously. I'll be able to give better estimates after the first month.
Poorly disguised Ponzi.
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corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
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Posted - 2009.04.27 05:58:00 -
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Edited by: corestwo on 27/04/2009 05:59:41
Originally by: Securitas Protector Edited by: Securitas Protector on 27/04/2009 05:57:25 Edited by: Securitas Protector on 27/04/2009 05:54:20
Originally by: The ChurchWarden Ok maybe I'm reading this wrong
Ticket Price: 5,000,000 ISK each Ticket Limit: None --- 2nd Drawing: Timestamp: 2009-04-04 21:39:47 UTC Ticket Number: 38 Winner: Worken Gasive Prize: 12,000,000.00 ISK Status: Paid
So In this we know there are atleast 38 tickets at 5m so you'd have 190m and you paid out 12m so you did 6% return... To one person. Possibly the best type of investment plan for the manager ever. I mean can you imagine of people only had to pay one investor 6%? Maybe I'm reading this wrong but if I'm not then you've technically scammed a bunch of morons who are willing to have a 1 in 38 chance [assuming they have only one ticket a piece] to make a return on investment.
My history is very clear, I've never scammed anyone before, and you can ask any of my investors, I haven't scammed anyone yet. The principle is new just as I am to the investment field. I am learning as the investment evolves and I'm predicting a higher return now than ever before. Before this month I was simply using Dynasty Bank, as I've said all along. If you'd like to speak to me more about it, great.
For those unclear on BlueBank, 2-5% was only entirely accurate for the first month, and next month(the blueprints were just purchased this month and research started a little late) I'm estimating a 150m return on 500m investment. If you have any questions feel free to ask my research/blueprint manager Alesk Remo.
Also, NVRSTOP pays out a certain percentage to once person at a time for the entire fund, essentially giving that person an advance on their dividend for a long time. Those who invest more have a higher chance of having their dividend advanced, but statistics tells us that everyone will eventually get their return.
Thanks,
Securitas.
You did not answer his question.
Quite frankly I resent that someone lumped me as a "0.0 member" along with you. Technically true, but... ------------- Goonfleet Investment Banking - Bringing you the spoils of Delve!
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EVEHelpisSeriousBusiness
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Posted - 2009.04.27 06:00:00 -
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I was going to say "inb4 ponzi" but now:
****, beaten
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Securitas Protector
Final Conflict UK Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.04.27 06:01:00 -
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Originally by: corestwo Edited by: corestwo on 27/04/2009 05:59:41
Originally by: Securitas Protector Edited by: Securitas Protector on 27/04/2009 05:57:25 Edited by: Securitas Protector on 27/04/2009 05:54:20
Originally by: The ChurchWarden Ok maybe I'm reading this wrong
Ticket Price: 5,000,000 ISK each Ticket Limit: None --- 2nd Drawing: Timestamp: 2009-04-04 21:39:47 UTC Ticket Number: 38 Winner: Worken Gasive Prize: 12,000,000.00 ISK Status: Paid
So In this we know there are atleast 38 tickets at 5m so you'd have 190m and you paid out 12m so you did 6% return... To one person. Possibly the best type of investment plan for the manager ever. I mean can you imagine of people only had to pay one investor 6%? Maybe I'm reading this wrong but if I'm not then you've technically scammed a bunch of morons who are willing to have a 1 in 38 chance [assuming they have only one ticket a piece] to make a return on investment.
My history is very clear, I've never scammed anyone before, and you can ask any of my investors, I haven't scammed anyone yet. The principle is new just as I am to the investment field. I am learning as the investment evolves and I'm predicting a higher return now than ever before. Before this month I was simply using Dynasty Bank, as I've said all along. If you'd like to speak to me more about it, great.
For those unclear on BlueBank, 2-5% was only entirely accurate for the first month, and next month(the blueprints were just purchased this month and research started a little late) I'm estimating a 150m return on 500m investment. If you have any questions feel free to ask my research/blueprint manager Alesk Remo.
Also, NVRSTOP pays out a certain percentage to once person at a time for the entire fund, essentially giving that person an advance on their dividend for a long time. Those who invest more have a higher chance of having their dividend advanced, but statistics tells us that everyone will eventually get their return.
Thanks,
Securitas.
You did not answer his question.
Quite frankly I resent that someone lumped me as a "0.0 member" along with you. Technically true, but...
Other than this "I mean can you imagine of people only had to pay one investor 6%?" He did not ask one.
Thanks,
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HawkBlade
Minmatar The Higher Standard Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2009.04.27 06:01:00 -
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Originally by: The ChurchWarden Ticket Price: 5,000,000 ISK each Ticket Limit: None --- 2nd Drawing: Timestamp: 2009-04-04 21:39:47 UTC Ticket Number: 38 Winner: Worken Gasive Prize: 12,000,000.00 ISK Status: Paid
Whatever this jenius (notice the rare J spelling!) says doesn't make this an investment vehicle. If you are selling tickets to a raffle, it is a lottery. You posted it in Events because it is a lottery. You posted it here because as a lottery it sucks. It is a cross posting. If you wish to talk about an investment, start one. Other than that, stfu and go back to events.
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Securitas Protector
Final Conflict UK Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.04.27 06:04:00 -
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Originally by: HawkBlade
Originally by: The ChurchWarden Ticket Price: 5,000,000 ISK each Ticket Limit: None --- 2nd Drawing: Timestamp: 2009-04-04 21:39:47 UTC Ticket Number: 38 Winner: Worken Gasive Prize: 12,000,000.00 ISK Status: Paid
Whatever this jenius (notice the rare J spelling!) says doesn't make this an investment vehicle. If you are selling tickets to a raffle, it is a lottery. You posted it in Events because it is a lottery. You posted it here because as a lottery it sucks. It is a cross posting. If you wish to talk about an investment, start one. Other than that, stfu and go back to events.
Well, since there appears to be so much dislike for NVRSTOP, I have now removed it from the original, leaving BlueBank. If you'd like I can remove it from the NVRSTOP post to make an entirely new one. Proud to be shaych |
Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries
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Posted - 2009.04.27 06:05:00 -
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Originally by: Securitas Protector
Originally by: HawkBlade
Originally by: The ChurchWarden Ticket Price: 5,000,000 ISK each Ticket Limit: None --- 2nd Drawing: Timestamp: 2009-04-04 21:39:47 UTC Ticket Number: 38 Winner: Worken Gasive Prize: 12,000,000.00 ISK Status: Paid
Whatever this jenius (notice the rare J spelling!) says doesn't make this an investment vehicle. If you are selling tickets to a raffle, it is a lottery. You posted it in Events because it is a lottery. You posted it here because as a lottery it sucks. It is a cross posting. If you wish to talk about an investment, start one. Other than that, stfu and go back to events.
Well, since there appears to be so much dislike for NVRSTOP, I have now removed it from the original, leaving BlueBank. If you'd like I can remove it from the NVRSTOP post to make an entirely new one.
do that and also answer why isnt bluebank a lottery? because i missed that (not saying it isnt there)
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YouGotRipped
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2009.04.27 06:05:00 -
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Edited by: YouGotRipped on 27/04/2009 06:05:41 Shameless bump.
Stop posting in this thread please, he's just responding to people in order to bump his thread.
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Power Sauce
Kenzzoku
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Posted - 2009.04.27 06:06:00 -
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Originally by: Securitas Protector ...try to gauge my trustworthiness all in one short package.
I believe this thread has reached the conclusion requested by the op.
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HawkBlade
Minmatar The Higher Standard Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2009.04.27 06:09:00 -
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Originally by: Securitas Protector Well, since there appears to be so much dislike for NVRSTOP, I have now removed it from the original, leaving BlueBank. If you'd like I can remove it from the NVRSTOP post to make an entirely new one.
The bluebank link goes to your lottery. Further more your bluebank posting is a for sale thread, not a discussion thread. Sales is another forum. Are you sure you can read?
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