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Posted - 2009.04.11 11:56:00 -
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Ugh I decide to take an extra few hours of sleep yesterday and I missed this.
I am kind of hurt that he didn't know DBANK.
On the path of the current conversation I do actually have a friend that is ADHD Dyslexic and Bi-Polar who happens to be a technical genius, so I have no doubt this guy knows how to do anything. He just doesn't know what not to do like not take the time to do adequate posts, not do adequate research, use any disability as an excuse, and advertise his disability and his age(This one was a big fail on his part).
o well another bank attempt gone. Come on Hexxx and Ricdic you know you like my idea more and more now!!!
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Posted - 2009.04.11 12:08:00 -
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Definately, did not mean to express that (My fail at wording). Just was more aiming to defunct any of the OP excuses of dyslexia leading to unprofessional presentation.
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Posted - 2009.04.11 12:15:00 -
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Edited by: Manalapan on 11/04/2009 12:16:17
Originally by: Ms Delerium I tried myself to make a small bank, total failure. This thread reminds me of the big harassement... damn this thread is even more harsh...
I will point out some thoughts. Dont take it as an offence.
- "InGame Bank" --- LOL this is no way an ingame bank. I think many of us would like to get an automatic, trusty, ingame bank (lets say NPC bank) but yours is just another untrusty player entity.
- "Hourly interest" --- LOL are you online 23/7?? How can you guarantee I can get back my isk when I request it? What if you are sleeping?
- "Interest rates" --- WTF? First you say 0.0021% per hour. Some lines above you say 0.000021% per hour. Which one is the correct? First is awesomely big -> 452.86% per month. The second is very poor -> 1.52% per month.
.0021% per hour = .000021 per hour (notice the % sign is not present in the second instance) so that actually made sense. Also, the hourly interest does not require him to be online constantly and nor do any of the banks say that you will get your withdrawal immediately. I know DBANK says that you will get the ISK within 48hrs (has been true for a small while).
EDIT: You must have caught the interest error immediately following your post.
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Posted - 2009.04.11 15:33:00 -
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Originally by: Ji Sama
Originally by: Ricdic
Originally by: Ms Delerium Also why can't he run a small bank, what does "matureness" have to do with that? This is an economic game. He offers an interest rate, you either accept it or reject it but stop complaining kthx.
By all means feel free to invest in his bank. Or are you just trolling?
firesafe-bulletproof-watertight
Yes but is it blaster-proof?
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Posted - 2009.04.12 15:07:00 -
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Originally by: IGBank Alec
Originally by: Ricdic I would pay someone to be the voice in here. Your spelling is ok but I really don't understand most of the things you are saying
Not much I can do about that sorry. Alec Spell checked
I would most definitely advise that you do rethink this statement. I pay someones (plural) to talk for me or at the very least proof and edit any official statements (The last report is an exception kind of rushed that out the door). This is important for a few reason's 1) No emotional responses. 2) Everyone can understand the response. 3) It looks and sounds intellectual. I would definitely encourage you to look into hiring someone to take up this role.
Originally by: IGBank Alec CanĘt fit that massive quote in sorry but basically: Why should you come to us, over EBANK, when they already have a rep, I donĘt know try something new, get interest on the hour, get more interest (I know its not much but we are new)
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I am mealy posting on the forums in the hope of getting IGBank noticed and used, so eventually we will be serous competition to EBANK and DBANK.
Alright, I still feel unloved in all of this, but you did say that you were doing your homework in the post prior. You might want to look at developing a nice pretty website full of features (use EBANK and DBANK to get ideas and contrasts) to help you with this. Also, might want to look at adjusting your rates just to get yourself off the ground (you can always lower your interest rates).
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Posted - 2009.04.13 06:38:00 -
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Originally by: IGBank Alec
I didnt know about DBANK - we do want to be compeitive, but we cant quite yet, due to our very small state we are under 0.1% of ebanks capital, its that bad, i can admit it though
I probs relesed this too early i see that now, but rather then request it be locked, please let me see what i can do
Do not let this fact deter you. DBANK started little over a year ago with 1.3B and was definitely shadowed by EBANK in much the same way you are now. However, determination and listening to a ton of advice (lots of changes were made that first month) helped us to stay competitive and survive into the almost 600B we have in deposits today.
Also, good job on getting a PR he seems very polite so far. I hope he does look through the entire thread and answer each question one at a time.
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Posted - 2009.04.13 08:44:00 -
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Edited by: Manalapan on 13/04/2009 08:45:38 I agree with these guys you need a Web Designer and a better connection. The 8mb connection is not going to cut it for hosting a site, sorry.
I do appreciate your dedication to the idea it just needs a lot of work and at the very least I hope you do take some of our advice with you to either make this bank work or in a new business concept.
EDIT: Spelling (Do this alot)
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Posted - 2009.04.13 11:35:00 -
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Edited by: Manalapan on 13/04/2009 11:35:41
Originally by: IGBANK ucntkilme Edited by: IGBANK ucntkilme on 13/04/2009 10:22:03 Edited by: IGBANK ucntkilme on 13/04/2009 10:21:03 The server load has been fine since IGB's inception. The high server load is the result of someone, or several people trying to brute force into the root of the site, without any success might I add.
edit: the new website url will be: eve-ingame.co.uk
at some point, we will be obtaining a .com as well.
Alec is in the process of doing file transfers now. Website will be down until all transfers are complete.
I do like the new URL hopefully a dedicated .com/.net/.org is in the near future. Also, make sure you take security steps on the new machine to prevent attacks (Brute Force or DOS). Also, the extra bandwidth prevents you from lagging on most of those attacks. Let us know when the site is back up, and when you think you will redesign it.
EDIT: If you are looking for a new host I can recommend you to one I use. Will have to talk ingame though CCP tends to frown on that.
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Posted - 2009.04.13 11:49:00 -
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Edited by: Manalapan on 13/04/2009 11:49:36 I believe that he would be using a VPS, but look at the bright side it is an improvement over a machine in his house.
EDIT: Spelling
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Posted - 2009.04.18 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: IGBank Beepus
Originally by: Kwint Sommer Do you know what's worse than someone's very first post asking for money? Their very first post, their introduction to the community, declaring that they've founded a bank. And do you know what's worse than someone's introduction to the community being a declaration that they have created a bank? Someone introducing themselves to the community with a poorly written business plan for the Bank they've created. And do you know what's worse than that? Having said bank pay less than the rates the most respected members of this forum are paying, not to mention EBANK itself!
I'm going to stop reading this before I have an aneurysm....
get a grip. now everyone given our current economic climate caused mostly by 'people with business plans' politicians allowing 'business plans' who the hell here trusts either a true banker or a politician? U my sound like your rl work is one or the other. Give him a dam break, the guys trying something new to him some complicated stuff. What do u do? knock it out of him. if u dont like it shut the hell up, dont give him a chance and dont post, he's not put himself here for people like u to slate him without constructive critiscm.
Comon Kwint what do u know about the banks founder? Id trust him with all my isk because I know he wont be going offline anytime, hes an honest person. This is not a slanging match, u dont like him and his business plan so just leave it.
Im testing him out with small amounts and ive known this guy pretty much since he started with his main. Its all checking out. Dont slate him, try it if it goes wrong then ill help u pod him for it ;) or just leave it
Alright, firstly by making this post you did nothing but hurt the credibility of IGBank. Your flame posting shows even more lack of professionalism which is quite an important attribute for an EVE Bank.
Secondly, this is constructive from Kwint you just have to look for it. His post said the following: 1) Do not make your first post on the forums asking for money. The reason behind this is that if you post around the forums we can get a better sense of who your are and what you know in terms of economics and business. 2) Poorly written business plan. This means that you were unprofessional in your first impression which helps very little in maintaining any trust in your bank. 3) Also, your rates are too low for a new bank. DBANK had 10% return to get off the ground.
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Posted - 2009.04.18 13:44:00 -
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Originally by: IGBank Beepus Apart from my previous reply thread, they way I see it is that there aren't too many 'banks' in eve. So Alec here has opened another one and he's doing a spot of advertising. What do u want him to pray someone opens an account with him? he's being honest about how he's doing it, he's not a banker by trade (so I'd trust him on that alone!) and I'm sure he has better things to do with his time than mess around with this.
Cmon banker guys lets have less slanging and more competition and maybe u can start a new type of business in the game. Competition makes things better for the customer, it's up to the customer to investigate the in's and out's. Personally I want to see more interest competition and see what happens. dont forget guys that there is NO reason for ANYONE to risk using an eve bank, my isk is safe (though static) in my wallet.
And i think this applies to you too alec, don't knock peoples maths or they will start ripping ur spelling :D Serious debate and constructive criticism is the way of the day
You would reply while I write mine.
1) Advertising in Jita local or any local for that matter is bad. This gives the wrong image. 2) Not banker so trust him. He has shown no reason for us to trust him. No offense to him but he hasn't. 3) I am all for competition but the issue is that he has been pushing this bank all the wrong way. He needs to take a step back formalize a presentation and the operation. (He needs to get you guys doing posts like your first one under control).
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