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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
6710
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Posted - 2013.04.18 16:48:00 -
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Royaldo,
Yes, If your friend follows 'The Plan', he can easily fix the Gallente and Minmatar negative Faction standings. Since he's at -6.00 standing, he should first stop killing Gallente / Minmatar NPC's as well as train the skill - Diplomacy - to level 5 asap.
If that skill is already trained up to level 5, then he needs to run some regular level 1 missions + storylines for Gallente or Minmatar agents located in Amarr, Ammatar or Caldari space. When he get's either Gallente or Minmatar Factions up above -5.00 standing, he can then start working the Gallente or Minmatar Event Agents listed in 'The Plan'.
To increase the amount of standing gained for completing missions, train up the skill - Social - to level 5 asap.
Good luck to your friend and thanks for posting.
DMC
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sabre906
Old Spice Syndicate Sailors of the Sacred Spice
974
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Posted - 2013.04.18 22:10:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Royaldo, Yes, If your friend follows 'The Plan', he can easily fix the Gallente and Minmatar negative Faction standings. Since he's at -6.00 standing, he should first stop killing Gallente / Minmatar NPC's as well as train the skill - Diplomacy - to level 5 asap. If that skill is already trained up to level 5, then he needs to run some regular level 1 missions + storylines for Gallente or Minmatar agents located in Amarr, Ammatar or Caldari space. When he get's either Gallente or Minmatar Factions up above -5.00 standing, he can then start working the Gallente or Minmatar Event Agents listed in 'The Plan'. To increase the amount of standing gained for completing missions, train up the skill - Social - to level 5 asap. Good luck to your friend and thanks for posting. DMC
It also happens that a perfect -10 turns into a -6 after lvl5 diplomacy. If that's the case, not so easy as training a skill to stop getting shot at, and it would be better to grind up to lvl3/4 SOE rather than grinding Gallante/Minmatar lvl1s in Amar/Caldari space forever. Standings Improvement Service https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19454 |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
6963
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Posted - 2013.04.18 23:28:00 -
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sabre906 wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:Royaldo, Yes, If your friend follows 'The Plan', he can easily fix the Gallente and Minmatar negative Faction standings. Since he's at -6.00 standing, he should first stop killing Gallente / Minmatar NPC's as well as train the skill - Diplomacy - to level 5 asap. If that skill is already trained up to level 5, then he needs to run some regular level 1 missions + storylines for Gallente or Minmatar agents located in Amarr, Ammatar or Caldari space. When he get's either Gallente or Minmatar Factions up above -5.00 standing, he can then start working the Gallente or Minmatar Event Agents listed in 'The Plan'. To increase the amount of standing gained for completing missions, train up the skill - Social - to level 5 asap. Good luck to your friend and thanks for posting. DMC It also happens that a perfect -10 turns into a -6 after lvl5 diplomacy. If that's the case, not so easy as training a skill to stop getting shot at, and it would be better to grind up to lvl3/4 SOE rather than grinding Gallante/Minmatar lvl1s in Amar/Caldari space forever.
That's very true, Diplomacy lv 5 will turn -10 into -6. I thought about that as well but he posted, and I quote - "He is -6 something with these factions."
I figured that means he hasn't trained Diplomacy lv 5 yet. Hopefully he still has a couple of levels left to train.
As for grinding missions with SoE verses Minmatar or Gallente, I'm a firm believer that direct standing gains are better than derived standing gains due to getting a much larger amount of increase with the direct standing gain. Yes SoE will give derived standing increase to both Gallente and Minmatar but I think it's slower than going direct.
Besides that, if he trains Diplomacy and Social lv 5, it shouldn't take very long at all to get above -5.00 which is when he can enter Gallente / Minmatar space safely and start working the Event Agents listed in 'The Plan'.
I guess it all depends on the Eye Of The Beholder.
However, I do agree that SoE is definitely a good choice to help raise Gallente & Minmatar standings............
..............................after all Event Agents are completed of course.
DMC |
Carek Talen
Another Corp.
3
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Posted - 2013.04.28 12:14:00 -
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Sorry if I'm reinventing the wheel but... Plan B: buy your faction standing. The last mission of the sisters arc, Dal Segno al Fine, can be shared.
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
6964
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Posted - 2013.04.28 19:09:00 -
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Carek Talen wrote:Sorry if I'm reinventing the wheel but... Plan B: buy your faction standing. The last mission of the sisters arc, Dal Segno al Fine, can be shared.
Sorry to disappoint you but that was a bug which has been corrected by CCP recently. The way Faction standing increase was designed and implemented for the majority of time in this game = Faction Standing increase can not be shared.
As for buying Faction standing increase, ie, have someone else do the missions - that will still require you to log into the game, fleet up, talk to agent, warp fleet to mission site or make bookmark and give it to fleet, etc. Then when mission is completed, you will have to talk to the agent again, complete mission, then repeat the whole process again....and again.....and again, etc.
Hell, might as well just do the mission yourself and make some ISK / security status increase, unless of course you're just a market alt or an Industrial character that has no combat skills.
Anyway, thanks for posting.
DMC
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Carek Talen
Another Corp.
5
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Posted - 2013.04.28 22:41:00 -
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Perhaps is a bug, but it is still alive.I did it today. Running the arc, two toons in parallel, one toon sharing standings. The standing transactions window shows an increase of 8.4% and four minutes later 4.025% for the shared mission.
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sabre906
Old Spice Syndicate Sailors of the Sacred Spice
1024
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Posted - 2013.04.28 23:08:00 -
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Carek Talen wrote:Perhaps is a bug, but it is still alive.I did it today. Running the arc, two toons in parallel, one toon sharing standings. The standing transactions window shows an increase of 8.4% and four minutes later 4.025% for the shared mission.
It was fixed and unfixed many times. CCP keeps removing epic arc faction standing sharing, but it seems to revert after random patches. Standings Improvement Service https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19454 |
Goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
357
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Posted - 2013.04.28 23:14:00 -
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I shared an Amarr Epic Arc once and the standing split, Funny thing is; every time I have done it since (4 times I think) and haven't split the rewards, I have to send a petition every time to get any standings at all. Go Figure? Reason and logic never wins over Stubborn and Convinced (But I still try..) |
sabre906
Old Spice Syndicate Sailors of the Sacred Spice
1024
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Posted - 2013.04.29 00:22:00 -
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Goldiiee wrote:I shared an Amarr Epic Arc once and the standing split, Funny thing is; every time I have done it since (4 times I think) and haven't split the rewards, I have to send a petition every time to get any standings at all. Go Figure?
They gave in to your petition? I'll have to do that next time. CCP has stated that it's not supposed to split and that it's a bug. Standings Improvement Service https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19454 |
Goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
357
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Posted - 2013.04.29 02:57:00 -
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sabre906 wrote:Goldiiee wrote:I shared an Amarr Epic Arc once and the standing split, Funny thing is; every time I have done it since (4 times I think) and haven't split the rewards, I have to send a petition every time to get any standings at all. Go Figure? They gave in to your petition? I'll have to do that next time. CCP has stated that it's not supposed to split and that it's a bug. No, I should be more specific, the second time I tried to split the reward I got no faction standing boost. When I petitioned it I was informed that Faction Standing cold not be shared, and the GM applied all the standing to one Toon. Then they added +36% to Amarr to that Toon, Don't ask I guess GM calculatoins for standings are different than simple maths. Reason and logic never wins over Stubborn and Convinced (But I still try..) |
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sabre906
Old Spice Syndicate Sailors of the Sacred Spice
1026
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Posted - 2013.04.29 18:20:00 -
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Goldiiee wrote:sabre906 wrote:Goldiiee wrote:I shared an Amarr Epic Arc once and the standing split, Funny thing is; every time I have done it since (4 times I think) and haven't split the rewards, I have to send a petition every time to get any standings at all. Go Figure? They gave in to your petition? I'll have to do that next time. CCP has stated that it's not supposed to split and that it's a bug. No, I should be more specific, the second time I tried to split the reward I got no faction standing boost. When I petitioned it I was informed that Faction Standing cold not be shared, and the GM applied all the standing to one Toon. Then they added +36% to Amarr to that Toon, Don't ask I guess GM calculatoins for standings are different than simple maths.
Ugg... Yeah, I gotta try that next time. Standings Improvement Service https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19454 |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
6975
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Posted - 2013.04.29 18:51:00 -
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Well, looks like a report should be filed on that bug..............................................................................again.
Thanks for bringing up that issue.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
8024
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Posted - 2013.06.11 04:11:00 -
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Just moving this thread to the front in case someone needs it.
I'm currently working on getting my Gallente and Minmatar Faction standing back up above +7 which will bring them close to equal with Amarr and Caldari. Then I'll complete the last few Empire Cosmos Agents.
I also needed to bump this thread to keep it from getting locked.
DMC
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Rain6636
Team Evil
604
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Posted - 2013.06.25 00:43:00 -
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I have a character with bad standings with Gallente Federation. However, I also have characters with only neutral or positive agent standings, by way of sharing mission completions.
I read your guide on the wiki, and have a question about unfriendly empire agents located in friendly space.
Can I boost a character's agent standings through sharing mission completions, and eventually gain access to that agent directly... despite the boosted character having terrible faction standings?
and then can the character improve its faction standings by working for the level 4 agent directly.
Ty Demichael Crimson. Free Thanatos Raffle-Lottery? ...Thing? |
Ifly Uwalk
Empire Tax Collection Agency
777
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Posted - 2013.06.25 01:08:00 -
[195] - Quote
Yes, but:
You can share mission rewards until your character has the requisite standings to run L4s with that corp (5.0 modified), however you need at least -2.0 modfied with a faction to run any agent that's better than L1. So if your faction standings are below -2.0 you will need to ***** L1s and the resulting storylines until you get there. And/or do L1 datacenter and COSMOS missions as well as career agents; stuff you read about in the guide. |
Rain6636
Team Evil
605
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Posted - 2013.06.25 03:15:00 -
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ty; it's just so much to take in...
I must've missed the specifics while looking for my situation. :-/ gave it a good effort though (I swear)
tyty o7 Free Thanatos Raffle-Lottery? ...Thing? |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
8595
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Posted - 2013.06.25 06:35:00 -
[197] - Quote
Ifly Uwalk is correct. (Thanks)
Until the Gallente Faction is above -2.00 standing, you'll only be able to access level 1 Gallente Agents.
Training the Diplomacy skill will help a lot, especially if you're at -10.00 standing. Level 5 Diplomacy will turn -10.00 standing into -6.00 standing. Once you get the Gallente Faction above -5.00 standing, you can safely enter Gallente space and work the Event Agents listed in 'The Plan'.
The Social skill will increase the amount of standing gained for completing missions. Good luck to you.
DMC |
Feanira Darr
Perkone Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.06.25 06:55:00 -
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o7 DMC :-)
so with Diplomacy V, the lowest possible faction standing is -6? adjusted
I'm just thinking that since I've done the exact thing your wiki says not to, maybe I should let it go for now and deal with it in one shot. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
8600
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Posted - 2013.06.25 07:15:00 -
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Feanira Darr,
I'm not sure what your particular situation is at the moment, a little more info would help a lot.
The reason I said -6.00 modified standing with lv 5 Diplomacy on a -10.00 base standing is due to looking at my own stats of the Pirate NPC Factions who's ships I constantly destroy.
DMC
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Feanira Darr
Perkone Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2013.06.25 07:25:00 -
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oh. I'm just not ready to stop with the faction pew pew missions just yet. and lately my mind has turned to what I would need to do if I ever decide to leave Caldari space. However... I don't have a reason, and if the floor is -6 then I'd rather continue my employment as a mercenary for my Caldari State.
all for the good of many.
...and the drops. :-) o7 |
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
8600
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Posted - 2013.06.25 07:48:00 -
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Ahhh, OK.
Well, when you do decide to fix your standings just remember that it won't take very long at all. Basically just train up the appropriate Social skills and work 'The Plan'..
Thanks for posting.
DMC |
Ifly Uwalk
Empire Tax Collection Agency
781
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Posted - 2013.06.25 13:00:00 -
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Feanira Darr wrote:all for the good of many. Tibus Heth must die. Just sayin'. |
Feanira Darr
Perkone Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2013.06.28 01:18:00 -
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must he? Tibus Heth is a fine Caldari. I find it amusing that Caldari fail to recognize his achievement, especially when they were the ones who put the wolf in a business suit. may he be feared along with the rest of us. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
8655
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Posted - 2013.06.28 05:43:00 -
[204] - Quote
OK, that's great info.
However, I'm sure Tibus Heth could also benefit from working 'The Plan'.
DMC |
Feanira Darr
Perkone Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2013.06.28 08:21:00 -
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Roger that,
sorry DMC. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
8661
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Posted - 2013.06.28 08:26:00 -
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No need to be sorry and thanks for posting.
DMC |
Ethan Bejorn
Pestilent Industries Amalgamated
0
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Posted - 2013.07.25 02:19:00 -
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I apologize if this has been asked previously, but I only see mention of pirate tags in regards to data center agents. I thought I had read sometime back, when i did not care about my -5.49 Amarr standings (with diplomacy 5), that you could buy some sort of tags and turn them in to repair faction standings. I am flush with ISK, but short on time. Is there anyway I can just buy my way to -4.99 or better with Amarr? |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
9393
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Posted - 2013.07.25 07:52:00 -
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Ethan Bejorn,
That's a very good question. The Data Center Agents are the only one's who accept Pirate Tags for Faction standing increase.
It won't take very long to fix your Amarr standing
If Caldari standing is higher than -5.00 standing, you can enter Caldari space and work itheir Event Agents listed in 'The Plan' to gain derived standings towards Amarr.
When Amarr Faction get's up above -5.00 standing, you can then enter Amarr space and work their Event Agents.
Hope this was helpful,
DMC |
Sis Zodiac
Chronosphere Inc. The Tsunami Collective
0
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Posted - 2013.07.25 15:56:00 -
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Friendly bump, just reached 5.0 caldari state in 3 days by following the plan |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
9395
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Posted - 2013.07.25 18:06:00 -
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Sis Zodiac,
That is excellent and many gratz to you. Thank you very much for the bump.
Just wondering what was your standing before you started working 'The Plan'?
DMC |
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