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Jacques Bontecou
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Posted - 2009.03.12 12:31:00 -
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Edited by: Jacques Bontecou on 12/03/2009 12:32:13 Hi
I'm hoping one of you might have an answer or even a tip for me with this new scanning thingy.
I uploaded an image of the situation (scanning there for practise puposes only) to illustrate the matter.
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For reasons unknow to me, the signature that I managed to get up to 100% strength (which I assume is the prerequisite for getting it warpable), still isn't giving me a drop down menu with a warp option (infact, no drop down menu's whatsoever).
What am I doing wrong here?
EDIT: oh yea - what is that red circle there? never seen that before...
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Carniflex
Caldari Fallout Research Fallout Project
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Posted - 2009.03.12 12:32:00 -
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You have only 2 probes in range of your targets. To get warpable target you need 4 probes in range.
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Jacques Bontecou
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Posted - 2009.03.12 12:34:00 -
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Originally by: Carniflex You have only 2 probes in range of your targets. To get warpable target you need 4 probes in range.
Oh, this I did not know.
Are there different number of probe requirements for different kinds of signatures? Just asking since yesterday, amongst all the lag and stuff, I went to an anomality using just two probes...
Thank's a million!
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Wyn Do
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Posted - 2009.03.12 12:35:00 -
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Edited by: Wyn Do on 12/03/2009 12:35:12 That red circle means that what you are scanning for is within that red circle- you're almost done. Move your probes to cover that circle, above and below, and change their range as low as you can while covering all of the circle. Once you get a solid green circle, it's warpable to.
Read this, very helpful
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Carniflex
Caldari Fallout Research Fallout Project
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Posted - 2009.03.12 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: Jacques Bontecou
Originally by: Carniflex You have only 2 probes in range of your targets. To get warpable target you need 4 probes in range.
Oh, this I did not know.
Are there different number of probe requirements for different kinds of signatures? Just asking since yesterday, amongst all the lag and stuff, I went to an anomality using just two probes...
Thank's a million!
Everything needs 4 probes to 'hit' it to be warpable.
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A Boethius
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Posted - 2009.03.12 12:49:00 -
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So here's one for people to ponder. I have Level IV on all pertinent scanning skills.
I scan down three abandoned drones and get close enough to be able to reduce probe range to 0.5 AU. I deploy 6 core probes (1 up, 1 down, 4 on the same plane surrounding the signal). I get between 72% and 99.49% signal strength, depending on random movement of the various probe locations, but can never get to 100% signal strength.
Plus, I cant see any correlation between random redistribution of the probes around the yellow dot and increased signal strength, i.e. neither closer nor further away seem to correlate with increased or decreased signal strength.
Any thoughts on this, other than "train to Level V"?
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Unbound
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Posted - 2009.03.12 12:56:00 -
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Originally by: A Boethius So here's one for people to ponder. I have Level IV on all pertinent scanning skills.
I scan down three abandoned drones and get close enough to be able to reduce probe range to 0.5 AU. I deploy 6 core probes (1 up, 1 down, 4 on the same plane surrounding the signal). I get between 72% and 99.49% signal strength, depending on random movement of the various probe locations, but can never get to 100% signal strength.
Plus, I cant see any correlation between random redistribution of the probes around the yellow dot and increased signal strength, i.e. neither closer nor further away seem to correlate with increased or decreased signal strength.
Any thoughts on this, other than "train to Level V"?
lower you scan range to 0.25 and try again...
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Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2009.03.12 12:58:00 -
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Originally by: Jacques Bontecou
Originally by: Carniflex You have only 2 probes in range of your targets. To get warpable target you need 4 probes in range.
Oh, this I did not know.
Are there different number of probe requirements for different kinds of signatures? Just asking since yesterday, amongst all the lag and stuff, I went to an anomality using just two probes...
Thank's a million!
The thing about Anomalies is that you don't need multiple probes, or any probes at all, to warp to them. They are warpable anytime as long as you can get them on your scan result (such as with the on-board scanner ie: no probe launcher equipped).
But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started. |
Jacques Bontecou
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Posted - 2009.03.12 13:05:00 -
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Edited by: Jacques Bontecou on 12/03/2009 13:05:12
Originally by: Wet Ferret
Originally by: Jacques Bontecou
Originally by: Carniflex You have only 2 probes in range of your targets. To get warpable target you need 4 probes in range.
Oh, this I did not know.
Are there different number of probe requirements for different kinds of signatures? Just asking since yesterday, amongst all the lag and stuff, I went to an anomality using just two probes...
The thing about Anomalies is that you don't need multiple probes, or any probes at all, to warp to them. They are warpable anytime as long as you can get them on your scan result (such as with the on-board scanner ie: no probe launcher equipped).
Yea, and I recalled now also, that I had two combat probes out ^^ heh...
Thank's for your help guys. I shall yet get a hang of this. Thank's a million!
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Harkey
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Posted - 2009.03.12 13:28:00 -
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Just for info - I have dropped a single probe set to 32 au and had a 100% warpable result ( CA ). Can anyone confirm that a single probe which covers the whole system (i.e. systems less than 32au) will act like the old multispec to give a quick indication if anything exists in that system ?
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Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2009.03.12 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: Harkey Just for info - I have dropped a single probe set to 32 au and had a 100% warpable result ( CA ). Can anyone confirm that a single probe which covers the whole system (i.e. systems less than 32au) will act like the old multispec to give a quick indication if anything exists in that system ?
Cosmic Anomalies are ALWAYS 100% warpable.
Yes to your question. As long as the range covers everything and then some, you will get a report on everything in the system. It has been that way for every system I've scanned so far.
But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started. |
Blue Dice
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.03.12 13:43:00 -
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It's Pure 3-Dimensional Geometry that aplies here:
Probes only know the distance a detected signal has from the probe.
- If one probe detects a signal then it only knows that the target is somewhere on the surface of the spere around it with that distance. - If 2 probes detect the signal, they both have such a spere and where these spheres match a circle results where the target could be. - If you have a 3'rd probe getting this signal the cyrcle is further reduced resulting in 2 possible spots on that cyrcle. - Only the 4th probe will tell you which of those spots it is.
Even then a warp to this point can result in landing in the nowhere, since there is deviation. A 100% Landing on the target is only guaranteed if you reduce your probes to the minimal scan range and all 4 hit the target.
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Raskor
Crossflow Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.03.12 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: Blue Dice A 100% Landing on the target is only guaranteed if you reduce your probes to the minimal scan range and all 4 hit the target.
Not guaranteed for them to just hit the target and minimal range. I had this happen where I had all 4 probes touching the target, and at 0.25au, and the wormhole still eluded me. I had 100% and green, but deviation was still too high. This is with maxed skills and a non-rigged covops.
I had to tighten the probes closer to the green dot before I could actually arrive on grid.
The probes strength appears to be weaker at the edges than at the center, as before.
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A Boethius
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Posted - 2009.03.12 14:21:00 -
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Originally by: Unbound
lower you scan range to 0.25 and try again...
Combat probes don't go below 0.50. At least mine don't. (Note my original post referred to them as "core probes". My error.
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