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21. Ore. Simplified. - in Player Features and Ideas Discussion [original thread]
Here's my attempt to _accurately_ describe the mining system in EVE in a few simple sentences. 1) Every ore is measured both in m3 and in a random fictional volume unit designed only to create inefficiencies in mining capacity. 2) As you gain ski...
- by Cheopis - at 2012.09.19 08:21:00
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22. Ore. Simplified. - in Player Features and Ideas Discussion [original thread]
Pipa Porto wrote: Cheopis wrote: Sorry, at this point I am firmly convinced that you have absolutely no interest at all in any change simply because it is change. You no longer have to deal with the freak weirdness of ore calculations from t...
- by Cheopis - at 2012.09.19 06:16:00
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23. Ore. Simplified. - in Player Features and Ideas Discussion [original thread]
Pipa Porto wrote: Cheopis wrote: Here's what I imagine a lookup table would look like for this system. Ya, terribly complex. Really. http://tinypic.com/m/ftfrrm/2 No, I did not finish the chart. I think it makes my point. You didn't f...
- by Cheopis - at 2012.09.19 04:55:00
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24. Ore. Simplified. - in Player Features and Ideas Discussion [original thread]
Juniorama wrote: tl;dr OP thinks current refining system is complex. Comes up with a less elegant idea. People point out his idea is less elegant, and current system is not that complex. OP is sad no one likes his idea. OP starts to troll w...
- by Cheopis - at 2012.09.19 03:01:00
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25. Ore. Simplified. - in Player Features and Ideas Discussion [original thread]
Added a link to the sample lookup table to the OP
- by Cheopis - at 2012.09.19 02:31:00
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26. Ore. Simplified. - in Player Features and Ideas Discussion [original thread]
Pipa Porto wrote: Cheopis wrote: So let me get this straight: One of your objections to changing the system as I described is that changing it would reduce inherent waste in the system. Another of your objections to this system as I descri...
- by Cheopis - at 2012.09.19 02:06:00
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27. Ore. Simplified. - in Player Features and Ideas Discussion [original thread]
Pipa Porto wrote: betoli wrote: Pipa Porto wrote: betoli wrote: Pipa Porto wrote: If you round down, you'll cause many people to have to calculate how many units to put in the stack they want to refine to avoid losing material. ...
- by Cheopis - at 2012.09.18 22:05:00
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28. Ore. Simplified. - in Player Features and Ideas Discussion [original thread]
Pipa Porto wrote: HELLBOUNDMAN wrote: So, what I want is simple. When I survey scan I either want m3 to show instead of units, or I want m3 to show as well as units. That isn't a bad idea at all. In fact it sounds like a great idea for Te...
- by Cheopis - at 2012.09.18 22:01:00
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29. Ore. Simplified. - in Player Features and Ideas Discussion [original thread]
Edited original post to modify minimum refining quantity for all ores to 100m3 because it does make sense to have chunks/batches of minerals of appropriate size for efficient refining. 100m3 seems like a good number to base all refining off of.
- by Cheopis - at 2012.09.18 11:21:00
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30. Ore. Simplified. - in Player Features and Ideas Discussion [original thread]
Pipa Porto wrote: Cheopis wrote: The metric system is a perfect analogy. Cubits? Measured by the length of a man's forearm. A Foot was literally the length of someone's booted foot. Various other random measurements created based on oddball ...
- by Cheopis - at 2012.09.18 10:37:00
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31. Ore. Simplified. - in Player Features and Ideas Discussion [original thread]
Pipa Porto wrote: Cheopis wrote: As an example of a real life scenario where arbitrary, wonked up units of measurement were set aside for useful units of measure, I present to you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_system Unfortunately...
- by Cheopis - at 2012.09.18 09:30:00
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32. Ore. Simplified. - in Player Features and Ideas Discussion [original thread]
As an example of a real life scenario where arbitrary, wonked up units of measurement were set aside for useful units of measure, I present to you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_system Unfortunately there are still people in the world wh...
- by Cheopis - at 2012.09.18 08:23:00
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33. Ore. Simplified. - in Player Features and Ideas Discussion [original thread]
Hellboundman I think you midunderstood something. All ores are already measured in m3. They are also measured in their custom little specialty units. A "Veldspar" being 0.1 m3 I am suggesting that no formulas at all be changed for mining or refi...
- by Cheopis - at 2012.09.18 05:44:00
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34. Ore. Simplified. - in Player Features and Ideas Discussion [original thread]
Pipa Porto wrote: Cheopis wrote: There is a very big difference between complicated STEPS and a complicated SYSTEM. You do not seem to be able to understand the difference. Every single component in an internal combustion engine is explaina...
- by Cheopis - at 2012.09.18 04:04:00
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35. Ore. Simplified. - in Player Features and Ideas Discussion [original thread]
Pipa Porto wrote: Cheopis wrote: Pipa Porto wrote: Cheopis wrote: Mars Theran wrote: Terrible shame if people actually had to do some math. on the other hand, 1 m3 or 3, or 33 m3 makes no difference to me. Obviously, counting in cu...
- by Cheopis - at 2012.09.18 02:54:00
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36. Ore. Simplified. - in Player Features and Ideas Discussion [original thread]
Pipa Porto wrote: Cheopis wrote: I think that ANY system which utilizes a Rube Goldberg system of strange and meaningless arbitrary numbers to generate a built-in system of waste and inefficiency is absurd and should be replaced with a simpl...
- by Cheopis - at 2012.09.18 02:48:00
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37. Ore. Simplified. - in Player Features and Ideas Discussion [original thread]
Pipa Porto wrote: Cheopis wrote: Mars Theran wrote: Terrible shame if people actually had to do some math. on the other hand, 1 m3 or 3, or 33 m3 makes no difference to me. Obviously, counting in cubic meters instead of irregular units i...
- by Cheopis - at 2012.09.18 02:36:00
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38. Ore. Simplified. - in Player Features and Ideas Discussion [original thread]
Mars Theran wrote: Terrible shame if people actually had to do some math. on the other hand, 1 m3 or 3, or 33 m3 makes no difference to me. Obviously, counting in cubic meters instead of irregular units is just more sensible and efficient, and...
- by Cheopis - at 2012.09.18 02:14:00
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39. Ore. Simplified. - in Player Features and Ideas Discussion [original thread]
Pipa Porto wrote: Cheopis wrote: Pipa Porto wrote: Cheopis wrote: Pipa Porto wrote: This minor amount of totally optional complexity (there is no requirement that you deal with it since the refining interface does all the math for...
- by Cheopis - at 2012.09.18 02:11:00
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40. Ore. Simplified. - in Player Features and Ideas Discussion [original thread]
Pipa Porto wrote: Nikk Narrel wrote: Not a partial item, if you refer to the drone. (The mining laser being partial did not make sense to object to) The drone as I described it would be bringing in a full 1,000m3 object to the host ship. It...
- by Cheopis - at 2012.09.18 01:36:00
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