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Killer Gandry wrote:

Issler Dainze wrote:

That is a good question. They need to remain in some form to let the newer players get the bearings but they can't remain a way to avoid major parts of the "risk" elements of Eve. I don't have a detailed plan in mind at the moment but a strong belief in those two principles.

I owe everyone more on that and promise to organize some "brainstorming" on what changes we need to be improve the NPC corp role in Eve.

Issler

So basicly you are saying you don't like the lay out of the sandbox and want it adjusted more to your liking.

If you really were some sort of high sec representative then you should start scratching your ear and first figure out why so many people want to remain in a NP corporation.
Focussing on changes without doing research as why people do what they do show me that your reasoning and logic are far too limited.

So show me a good study as why people want to remain in NPC corporations and take it from there instead of doing wild shots in the dark without knowing the underlying problems.

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Issler Dainze Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord 1992	Posted - 2012.04.20 11:23:00 - [1] - Quote So I wasn't able to make the interviews during the election but I was able to an interview recently. I wanted to share to let folks that wonder what I might have been like in the interviews. Issler Interview Hope it gives you some sense of what I'm about. Issler
Caimeka Handelskrieg Industries Goonswarm Federation 24	Posted - 2012.04.20 12:36:00 - [2] - Quote Wow you are like concentrated pubbie.
Ya Huei Imperial Collective 56	Posted - 2012.04.20 13:13:00 - [3] - Quote Everyone wants to hear what "CSM space pants" has to say right ?
Gloomy Gus GoonWaffe 286	Posted - 2012.04.20 14:13:00 - [4] - Quote I was really looking forward to hearing your thoughts Issler, you have a keen edge to your thought processes that really cuts through all the BS and tells it like it is. "DIE N***ERS1 DIE!!!" - EVENEWS24's Riverini
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 429	Posted - 2012.04.20 21:00:00 - [5] - Quote Gloomy Gus wrote: I was really looking forward to hearing your thoughts Issler, you have a keen edge to your thought processes that really cuts through all the BS and tells it like it is. Clean-cut BS. Yeah, I thought so. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY
Nicolo da'Vicenza Divine Power. Cascade Imminent 675	Posted - 2012.04.20 23:47:00 - [6] - Quote today's 4/20 so once i get home from work and celebrate i'll listen to this and give you my unfiltered thoghts
Nicolo da'Vicenza Air The Unthinkables 2804	Posted - 2012.04.20 23:47:00 - [7] - Quote today's 4/20 so once i get home from work and celebrate i'll listen to this and give you my unfiltered thoghts
Killer Gandry V I R I I Ineluctable. 307	Posted - 2012.04.21 00:09:00 - [8] - Quote Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote: today's 4/20 so once i get home from work and celebrate i'll listen to this and give you my unfiltered thoghts Can't be much more than ban NPC (alts) from the forums.
Nicolo da'Vicenza Divine Power. Cascade Imminent 675	Posted - 2012.04.21 00:32:00 - [9] - Quote Killer Gandry wrote: Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote: today's 4/20 so once i get home from work and celebrate i'll listen to this and give you my unfiltered thoghts Can't be much more than ban NPC (alts) from the forums. naw, Issler agreed to consider my proposall to ban NPC corps entirely in her campaign thread and now she's part of the CSM : )))))))))))))))) edit: woah eighty minutes what did i get myself into aaaaaaa
Nicolo da'Vicenza Air The Unthinkables 2804	Posted - 2012.04.21 00:32:00 - [10] - Quote Killer Gandry wrote: Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote: today's 4/20 so once i get home from work and celebrate i'll listen to this and give you my unfiltered thoghts Can't be much more than ban NPC (alts) from the forums. naw, Issler agreed to consider my proposall to ban NPC corps entirely in her campaign thread and now she's part of the CSM : )))))))))))))))) edit: woah eighty minutes what did i get myself into aaaaaaa

Issler Dainze Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord 1993	Posted - 2012.04.21 02:54:00 - [11] - Quote Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote: Killer Gandry wrote: Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote: today's 4/20 so once i get home from work and celebrate i'll listen to this and give you my unfiltered thoghts Can't be much more than ban NPC (alts) from the forums. naw, Issler agreed to consider my proposall to ban NPC corps entirely in her campaign thread and now she's part of the CSM : )))))))))))))))) edit: woah eighty minutes what did i get myself into aaaaaaa I still hope we can find a way to change the fundamentally change NPC corps. Sorry about the length of the interview, that is a lot of me talking! Issler
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 1243	Posted - 2012.04.21 17:40:00 - [12] - Quote I enjoyed that. It's much easier to follow what someone is about in an interview, uninterrupted by trolls and asshats, than trying to make sense out of a forum thread pre election. I think, Issler, that if tit had aired before voting , you would have ended up with a larger percentage of the vote than you did. Mr Epeen Me too!-a I ate one sour, too!
Lapine Davion Outer Ring Applied Logistics 235	Posted - 2012.04.24 06:38:00 - [13] - Quote Issler, why did you sound like a dude? Don't worry about posting with your main! -aPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
Kelvan Hemanseh Hole Exploitation Inc. The Unwilling. 31	Posted - 2012.04.25 23:54:00 - [14] - Quote Issler Dainze wrote: Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote: Killer Gandry wrote: Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote: today's 4/20 so once i get home from work and celebrate i'll listen to this and give you my unfiltered thoghts Can't be much more than ban NPC (alts) from the forums. naw, Issler agreed to consider my proposall to ban NPC corps entirely in her campaign thread and now she's part of the CSM : )))))))))))))))) edit: woah eighty minutes what did i get myself into aaaaaaa I still hope we can find a way to change the fundamentally change NPC corps. Sorry about the length of the interview, that is a lot of me talking! Issler For those of us that are curious how exactly would you change NPC corps for the better?
Issler Dainze Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord 1998	Posted - 2012.04.26 00:43:00 - [15] - Quote Kelvan Hemanseh wrote: Issler Dainze wrote: Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote: Killer Gandry wrote: Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote: today's 4/20 so once i get home from work and celebrate i'll listen to this and give you my unfiltered thoghts Can't be much more than ban NPC (alts) from the forums. naw, Issler agreed to consider my proposall to ban NPC corps entirely in her campaign thread and now she's part of the CSM : )))))))))))))))) edit: woah eighty minutes what did i get myself into aaaaaaa I still hope we can find a way to change the fundamentally change NPC corps. Sorry about the length of the interview, that is a lot of me talking! Issler For those of us that are curious how exactly would you change NPC corps for the better? That is a good question. They need to remain in some form to let the newer players get the bearings but they can't remain a way to avoid major parts of the "risk" elements of Eve. I don't have a detailed plan in mind at the moment but a strong belief in those two principles. I owe everyone more on that and promise to organize some "brainstorming" on what changes we need to be improve the NPC corp role in Eve. Issler
Killer Gandry V I R I I Ineluctable. 316	Posted - 2012.04.26 01:51:00 - [16] - Quote Issler Dainze wrote: That is a good question. They need to remain in some form to let the newer players get the bearings but they can't remain a way to avoid major parts of the "risk" elements of Eve. I don't have a detailed plan in mind at the moment but a strong belief in those two principles. I owe everyone more on that and promise to organize some "brainstorming" on what changes we need to be improve the NPC corp role in Eve. Issler So basicly you are saying you don't like the lay out of the sandbox and want it adjusted more to your liking. If you really were some sort of high sec representative then you should start scratching your ear and first figure out why so many people want to remain in a NP corporation. Focussing on changes without doing research as why people do what they do show me that your reasoning and logic are far too limited. So show me a good study as why people want to remain in NPC corporations and take it from there instead of doing wild shots in the dark without knowing the underlying problems.
Issler Dainze Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord 1998	Posted - 2012.04.26 02:22:00 - [17] - Quote Killer Gandry wrote: Issler Dainze wrote: That is a good question. They need to remain in some form to let the newer players get the bearings but they can't remain a way to avoid major parts of the "risk" elements of Eve. I don't have a detailed plan in mind at the moment but a strong belief in those two principles. I owe everyone more on that and promise to organize some "brainstorming" on what changes we need to be improve the NPC corp role in Eve. Issler So basicly you are saying you don't like the lay out of the sandbox and want it adjusted more to your liking. If you really were some sort of high sec representative then you should start scratching your ear and first figure out why so many people want to remain in a NP corporation. Focussing on changes without doing research as why people do what they do show me that your reasoning and logic are far too limited. So show me a good study as why people want to remain in NPC corporations and take it from there instead of doing wild shots in the dark without knowing the underlying problems. I definitely understand the underlying problem. I think you need to think about the core concept of Eve. Risk vs. Reward. A strong case can be made that NPC corps allow this balance to be skewed. I support the idea of the solo player as well. I didn't say eliminate NPC corps but they are one of many elements of Eve long overdue for review and revamp. I love it when people challenge other people in Eve to provide an extensive study to support their position when they know that no such data can be provided to support either side of the argument. What you also fail to realize is I have no intention of presenting ANYTHING to CCP as a CSM without serious vetting with the player base. I am here to represent the players that elected me, not to randomly spout "Eve accord to Issler" manifestos to CCP. So my suggestion to you is to feel free to join in the conversations about the future of NPC corps in Eve when I start those conversations instead of assuming you already know in detail what I meant with those pretty basic concepts I shared in answer to a question I was asked. So a question back to you, do you believe in the concept of risk vs. reward being key to Eve? If you do we can start conversations about places in Eve where maybe that is broken. If you don't see that as key I doubt we could ever agree. Issler
Tech3ZH Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 12	Posted - 2012.04.27 10:27:00 - [18] - Quote Hmm...interesting interview. Worth the listen. I hope they get the other interviews they mentioned lined up...sounds good...
knobber Jobbler 162	Posted - 2012.04.27 15:57:00 - [19] - Quote Issler Dainze wrote: What you also fail to realize is I have no intention of presenting ANYTHING to CCP as a CSM without serious vetting with the player base. I am here to represent the players that elected me, not to randomly spout "Eve accord to Issler" manifestos to CCP. You finally figured this one out. Now if you could tell all the misinformed people who voted for you this is the case that would be appreciated. A whole bunch of people somehow think that the CSM is akin to joining the board of game designers rather than representing us, the players, at the stakeholders table.
Issler Dainze Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord 2002	Posted - 2012.04.27 18:47:00 - [20] - Quote knobber Jobbler wrote: Issler Dainze wrote: What you also fail to realize is I have no intention of presenting ANYTHING to CCP as a CSM without serious vetting with the player base. I am here to represent the players that elected me, not to randomly spout "Eve accord to Issler" manifestos to CCP. You finally figured this one out. Now if you could tell all the misinformed people who voted for you this is the case that would be appreciated. A whole bunch of people somehow think that the CSM is akin to joining the board of game designers rather than representing us, the players, at the stakeholders table. If you read anything I said while I ran you would see I've said this is exactly how I intended to act as a CSM representative. In fact I've said this every time I've run for CSM. So this is not news, in fact it is probably a big part of how I got elected. A variation of what I say whenever asked, I am not the "Idea Faerie of Eve". I have ideas for sure and they will get thrown into the pot along with all the others, then we, the players will sort them out and that is the "stew of wonder" I'll bring into the CSM process. Issler

Killer Gandry V I R I I Ineluctable. 322	Posted - 2012.04.27 19:48:00 - [21] - Quote Issler Dainze wrote: So a question back to you, do you believe in the concept of risk vs. reward being key to Eve? If you do we can start conversations about places in Eve where maybe that is broken. If you don't see that as key I doubt we could ever agree. I firmly agree that the concept of risk versus reward is one of the key cornerstones of EVE. However there is a lot more that needs taking care of then people who wish to remain in NPC corporations. Issler Dainze wrote: I love it when people challenge other people in Eve to provide an extensive study to support their position when they know that no such data can be provided to support either side of the argument. You shoot off your mouth about NPC people yet you then say I am the one who challenges? You are the one who wanted a foot on the CSM pedestal. That means you also work for information you want to talk about. If you are someone who wants to represent then do it on facts and not on personal assumptions. Get off of your lazy bumm and do what you are in the CSM for. Get data from CCP aswel. If you are too lazy for getting data to build on from then you are too lazy to represent in my personal opinion. Key issue's why people remain in NPC corporations are various: They don't have the time or the will to put in as much work and time as a lot of corporations ask of them. They come from games where the key structure of a player driven group is less profound. They don't want to feel like one of the masses or are afraid of being cannon fodder to the higher ups. They have communications issue's of some kind and therefor prefer to remain outside a corporation. They don't want to be pulled into the drama EVE often trails off to when being in a Corporation. They don't tend to play well with others and prefer to remain on their own. They see EVE as a game where social interaction isn't required. And so on. There is a reason almost exclusively for anyone who stays in a NPC corp. So saying you know the underlying issue is a tad of a bg grasp. The main thing Nicolo is peefed about is that people use alt NPC's to post, his main concern is to silence them up. If you check his postings over the last your a big percentage of it is only about that. He's a very single minded individual and as such I personally think he has far greater issues than alts in NPC corporations which post on the forums. It would be a grand idea if there actually were a survey to get an indication as why people want to remain in NPC corporations. That would serve far more because then we would have actual data instead of random assumptions. Now about the risk vs reward. There is also a lot of reward with minimal or no risk in this game. Do you intend to make work of that too? To increase the risk exponentially to the reward?
Nicolo da'Vicenza Divine Power. Cascade Imminent 728	Posted - 2012.04.27 20:07:00 - [22] - Quote My objections to NPC corp forum alts and NPC corps in general are two different things, where bad gameplay and bad posting happen to converge. Not one of the scenarios you presented justify the presence of a collective corp that makes wardecs optional and delivers ironclad CONCORD protection. All of them are better served by a system where NPC corps were removed and instead pilots are "Freelancers", effectively one-man corps with zero overhead and able to be wardecced individually and unbound by POS and bounty tax restrictions. If I was in a highsec mining corp like Issler Dainze I, more then anyone, would question why it was fair I had to compete with people who mindlessly flooded the market since they've made basic EVE concepts like 'engaging in PvP for resources' as competively disadvantageous to resort to thanks to decshield exploits and NPC corps. Anyways, I also liked some of Issler's pet ideas like 'artifact'-based manufacturing, where an industrialist had like some unique or super-rare antimatter reactor schematic could give a marginal boost to the ship's effectiveness - then brand it with their corp logo.
Nicolo da'Vicenza Air The Unthinkables 2804	Posted - 2012.04.27 20:07:00 - [23] - Quote My objections to NPC corp forum alts and NPC corps in general are two different things, where bad gameplay and bad posting happen to converge. Not one of the scenarios you presented justify the presence of a collective corp that makes wardecs optional and delivers ironclad CONCORD protection. All of them are better served by a system where NPC corps were removed and instead pilots are "Freelancers", effectively one-man corps with zero overhead and able to be wardecced individually and unbound by POS and bounty tax restrictions. If I was in a highsec mining corp like Issler Dainze I, more then anyone, would question why it was fair I had to compete with people who mindlessly flooded the market since they've made basic EVE concepts like 'engaging in PvP for resources' as competively disadvantageous to resort to thanks to decshield exploits and NPC corps. Anyways, I also liked some of Issler's pet ideas like 'artifact'-based manufacturing, where an industrialist had like some unique or super-rare antimatter reactor schematic could give a marginal boost to the ship's effectiveness - then brand it with their corp logo.

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