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geewizzy	Posted - 2009.01.27 16:05:00 - [1] Hey all My character is just past two months old and I've been having a play with EFT and Evemon with what to do next with my Drake mission running, my natural progression was going to be towards a nighthawk as lots of people have told me it's a great mission ship but I run a second account for salvaging and have being giving a lot of thought to running a drake with a Shield Harmonizer gang assist mod. Have set up my evemon plan and will have all the skills needed to fit/run it by mid March. Welcome your thoughts Highs CN Heavy Launcher x7 Siege Warfare Link - Shield Harmonizing Mids LSE x2 Shield Recharger CN active hardener x2 Cn passive amp x1 Lows Beta Reactor SPR x2 CN BCUx2 Rigs 3 x Core Defence Purger Drone 5 x Hobgoblin II I appreciate this is an expensive fit but to be fair anyone even trying to run L4 missions can get them really quickly. According to EFT I actually get very nice DPS and with the Warfare link on pretty amazing tank (can tank any lvl4 mission easily) What I've noticed with NH it's very difficult to fit a gang warfare mod and maintain a good DPS, whereas the Drake would seem to give me both. Comments (constructive please!) welcome Cheers gee
Dracthera	Posted - 2009.01.27 16:59:00 - [2] Decent setup. As you increase your skills and income, consider going with an active Drake tank. It gives you sufficient defense to run ANY aspect of L4 missions, and more DPS to boot (you can add 4 BCUs with an active setup).
Enden Assulu Caldari Atomic Mexicans	Posted - 2009.01.27 17:30:00 - [3] Edited by: Enden Assulu on 27/01/2009 17:33:27 Edited by: Enden Assulu on 27/01/2009 17:30:52 I like your set-up I'm just not a huge fan of faction fitting ships, so here is my t2 version which is primarily focused on tank My LvL 4 Drake set-up is like this: -Highs Ovbiously change the missiels for rat specific ^^ Heavy Missile Launcher II,Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II,Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II,Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II,Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II,Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II,Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II,Thunderbolt Heavy Missile -Meds Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Magnetic Scattering Amplifier II 2x Rat Specific Hardeners -Lows Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Power Diagnostic System II -Rig Type things Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I It tanks well and has the damage to do most lvl 4s solo, although I personally run this set-up on my alt for maximum tank while I'm in a domi dealing some DPS.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.01.27 20:13:00 - [4] His focus was the warfare link, for that he needs the faction fit, or else he has big grid problems, and swapping a SPR (oe both) for a RCU (or 2x PDS, or PDS+RCU, depending on skills) is not really that much of a good option.
geewizzy	Posted - 2009.01.27 21:33:00 - [5] Thanks for comments so far guys And yes Akita is correct my focus here is about fitting the warfare link, as it is EFT says I need AWU3 to fit it with the faction mods hence why i need them on it. I am trying to figure a fit on a drake that gives the great tank bit with also some nice gank (which can be a failing on a Drake) hence why I want to fit the 2x BCU's. Keep em coming gee
Cade Morrigan Caldari	Posted - 2009.01.27 22:33:00 - [6] Originally by: geewizzy What I've noticed with NH it's very difficult to fit a gang warfare mod and maintain a good DPS, whereas the Drake would seem to give me both. I don't see that you've stated what your intent is for that gang warfare link. Are you soloing or doing L4s in a group all the time? For a group, sure, fit it for your gangmates i guess, but for soloing no. I fly a cerberus for L4s, training for a Nighthawk (two more weeks!). The Cerb is in every way superior to the drake for L4 missions and the nighthawk is superior to the cerberus. If the cerb can solo every L4 mission (at least from caldari agents), then the Nighthawk can do it without a gang link module, and it will have a -lot- better dps than a drake, which is where the drake falls short on L4 missions.
Dark 'Shadow Shadow Fire Industries	Posted - 2009.01.27 23:36:00 - [7] Originally by: Cade Morrigan Originally by: geewizzy What I've noticed with NH it's very difficult to fit a gang warfare mod and maintain a good DPS, whereas the Drake would seem to give me both. I don't see that you've stated what your intent is for that gang warfare link. Are you soloing or doing L4s in a group all the time? For a group, sure, fit it for your gangmates i guess, but for soloing no. I fly a cerberus for L4s, training for a Nighthawk (two more weeks!). The Cerb is in every way superior to the drake for L4 missions and the nighthawk is superior to the cerberus. If the cerb can solo every L4 mission (at least from caldari agents), then the Nighthawk can do it without a gang link module, and it will have a -lot- better dps than a drake, which is where the drake falls short on L4 missions. I am training for a Nighthawk as well, but do you mind posting your setup and how do you handle frigs without drones?
Cade Morrigan Caldari	Posted - 2009.01.28 00:14:00 - [8] Edited by: Cade Morrigan on 28/01/2009 00:15:11 L4 Cerb 5x t2 HML 1x gisti-b sb 1x ab (sometimes trade this in for a second gisti-b) 3x hardeners 3x t2 bcu 1x damage control Heavy Missile Launchers with near-max skills work fine versus frigs. Sure it'll work better with some drones, but I'm fine with the current performance for another couple of weeks :) /edit for clarity
Dark 'Shadow Shadow Fire Industries	Posted - 2009.01.28 00:25:00 - [9] Originally by: Cade Morrigan Edited by: Cade Morrigan on 28/01/2009 00:15:11 L4 Cerb 5x t2 HML 1x gisti-b sb 1x ab (sometimes trade this in for a second gisti-b) 3x hardeners 3x t2 bcu 1x damage control Heavy Missile Launchers with near-max skills work fine versus frigs. Sure it'll work better with some drones, but I'm fine with the current performance for another couple of weeks :) /edit for clarity Nice setup, that is pretty much what I used except with a Pithi B-type small shield booster, and whatever launchers are right below arba's, my problem was that I would get webbed and that would kill my speed so much...probably more of an issue with my missile skills but still.
geewizzy Caldari Gee's Return	Posted - 2009.01.28 09:18:00 - [10] Originally by: Cade Morrigan Originally by: geewizzy What I've noticed with NH it's very difficult to fit a gang warfare mod and maintain a good DPS, whereas the Drake would seem to give me both. I don't see that you've stated what your intent is for that gang warfare link. Are you soloing or doing L4s in a group all the time? For a group, sure, fit it for your gangmates i guess, but for soloing no. I fly a cerberus for L4s, training for a Nighthawk (two more weeks!). The Cerb is in every way superior to the drake for L4 missions and the nighthawk is superior to the cerberus. If the cerb can solo every L4 mission (at least from caldari agents), then the Nighthawk can do it without a gang link module, and it will have a -lot- better dps than a drake, which is where the drake falls short on L4 missions. I'd stated in my OP that I have a salvager alt, hence why i'm looking into the feasibility of fitting the gang link. In isolation OFC the NH is a better ship than a Drake but my point was about it's also known it is not easy to fit a gang link AND high DPS on a NH so am looking at the Drake as an alterative with my relatively low skills to get a win fit. Also whilst sure the NH has better DPS the Drake does have an extra launcher slot hehe. Plus with the PG that comes with a NH I would imagine it will be very difficult to fit a gang link, all them launchers/BCUs and an active tank? I'm not skilling for a Cerb, my focus of skills is more towards passive tanks atm and as I also stated in my OP my char is just over two months old so I prefer to focus on one goal at a time I'm going to run the skills for this plan anyway and most of them are useful for other things and will update this post in Mid March with how it works! gee

Princess SinR	Posted - 2009.01.28 10:40:00 - [11] you dont need advice at all, you actually know what your doing, you have fitted mods that your skills allow and you check the variations on EFT. I think mines is still fit for tackling BS targets and tanking sentries at the same time, I am so lazy I have taken it in to missions with a scram fitted lol,
Cade Morrigan Caldari	Posted - 2009.01.28 18:24:00 - [12] Originally by: geewizzy I'd stated in my OP that I have a salvager alt, hence why i'm looking into the feasibility of fitting the gang link. ... Also whilst sure the NH has better DPS the Drake does have an extra launcher slot hehe. My entire point was "do you really need the link?" and if it is just to give your salvager a bit more tank I'd say "no". The rest of my blah blah is based on "you don't need the link, and the increased dps of a NH is going to be better than having a drake with a link". That is all I am trying to say. The "extra" launcher on the drake is part of its overall damage output, nobody is ignoring that launcher. The NH will significantly out-damage the drake, period, and for my tastes that's better for L4s than being able to mount a gang link. That's all I was about :)
geewizzy Caldari Gee's Return	Posted - 2009.01.28 19:23:00 - [13] Originally by: Cade Morrigan Originally by: geewizzy I'd stated in my OP that I have a salvager alt, hence why i'm looking into the feasibility of fitting the gang link. ... Also whilst sure the NH has better DPS the Drake does have an extra launcher slot hehe. My entire point was "do you really need the link?" and if it is just to give your salvager a bit more tank I'd say "no". The rest of my blah blah is based on "you don't need the link, and the increased dps of a NH is going to be better than having a drake with a link". That is all I am trying to say. The "extra" launcher on the drake is part of its overall damage output, nobody is ignoring that launcher. The NH will significantly out-damage the drake, period, and for my tastes that's better for L4s than being able to mount a gang link. That's all I was about :) No worries mate, FYI though the gang link is not for the salvager char it's for the drake (who will be the gang booster) having the alt in same system just allows me to get the bonuses from it :o) I do agree the NH is great ship but I won't be able to fly one for a good while properly and can be making my iskies with a win drake in the meantime gee
skuko Caldari	Posted - 2009.01.28 23:32:00 - [14] Edited by: skuko on 28/01/2009 23:31:56 hi guys...sorry to derail the thread, but what would be the general approach to L4 with the mentioned cerb? i suppose, use the range to my advantage right? so try to keep distance and shoot the crap out of them? edit: typos
Cade Morrigan Caldari	Posted - 2009.01.29 01:30:00 - [15] Originally by: skuko Edited by: skuko on 28/01/2009 23:31:56 hi guys...sorry to derail the thread, but what would be the general approach to L4 with the mentioned cerb? i suppose, use the range to my advantage right? so try to keep distance and shoot the crap out of them? Yeah I try to keep stuff out at 30km or more to reduce incoming dps ... the tank is plenty strong but you don't want to get into knife fighting range. I try to keep my targets in the 'middle' and just AB around the perimeter of the groups. Keep transversal up and take care of anything webbing you first and just let the missiles fly. SOrry for hijack Gee :)
Darwin Duck A Quest Millitia	Posted - 2009.01.29 03:30:00 - [16] For L4 use a Raven, its the boring choice, but also the most effective. I have done L4's in drake, Raven,CNR and Nighthawk after my return, and CNR is the fastest followed by Raven. Sure with drake and esp Nighthawk, you are invunerable, but you finish the missions faster in a BS. And you do the missions for the isk after all, so you want to earn it as fast as possible. A BS does it faster than a drake.
geewizzy Caldari Gee's Return	Posted - 2009.03.16 16:01:00 - [17] Well it's now Mid March and I've finally skilled up for this fit and all I can say is it works well for me :o) The tank is a thing of beauty and now going to boost up my missle skills to boost the DPS some more although it's pretty good now (can do EA5 in 45 minutes). So as a conclusion if you dual account missions using a drake with this gang link and fitout is a good play :o) gee
Terminus Vindictus Caldari	Posted - 2009.03.16 16:49:00 - [18] Originally by: Darwin Duck I have done L4's in drake, Raven,CNR and Nighthawk after my return, and CNR is the fastest followed by Raven. Sure with drake and esp Nighthawk, you are invunerable, but you finish the missions faster in a BS. And you do the missions for the isk after all, so you want to earn it as fast as possible. A BS does it faster than a drake. That's not universally true, and certainly not true depending on loadouts and skills. An active NH loadout can run L4 missions just about as fast as a similarly-fitted CNR, and definitely faster than a Raven. An active low-SP Drake can run missions faster than a low-SP Raven. If you're talking about passive loadouts, I'd almost agree with you. Hello, I'm from the Government and I'm here to help.


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