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Nomakai Delateriel
Amarr Ammatar Free Corps
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Posted - 2009.01.26 17:58:00 -
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Originally by: Stella Starsparrow The 24rth Crusade? There is a difference between 'patient' and 'rabid' deluded one. We are the unreasonable barbarians continuing aggression? The other 23 were our fault too right? pff.
Considering that I think this is the first crusade aimed at the minmatar republic specifically (the minmatar planets being absorbed in the 23rd unless I get my history wrong), no. You probably had just discovered fire when the first crusade was launched to reclaim the planet Athra (currently Amarr).
But the Empire had operated on a Pro-Peace stance for two centuries when your fleet attacked. So yes, this war is all your fault. |
Neu Bastian
Minmatar Valklear Guard
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Posted - 2009.01.26 19:00:00 -
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Since the topic of time was brought up, letÆs go back in it further. It was the Amarr who first came to Pator in the Day of Darkness and enslaved our people. Twist it any way you want: your false God's will, your personal wicked ways, economic growth through free labor, f'ing enlightenment; no excuse will change the fact that the Amarr where the first aggressor, and nothing you ever say or do can justify or atone for what you have done to our people.
We have Rebeled, we have invaded, and we wage war against against you, all to claim what you have taken from us.
And know that until the philosophy which holds one race superior and another inferior is finally and permanently discredited and abandoned: That until there are no longer first-class and second class citizens of any nation; That until the basic human rights are equally guaranteed to all without regard to race; That until that day, the dream of lasting peace and citizenship and the rule of universal morality will remain but a fleeting illusion, to be pursued but never attained; And that until the ignoble and unhappy regimes that hold our brothers in Amarr, in Khanid, in Ammatar and in CVA space in subhuman bondage have been toppled and destroyed; Until bigotry and prejudice and malicious and inhuman self-interest have been replaced by understanding and tolerance and good-will; That until all Matari stand and speak as free beings, equal in the eyes of all men; That until that day, the Minmatar Republic will not know peace. We Matari will fight, and we know that we shall win, as we are confident in the victory of righteousness over tyranny.
((Original speech by Halie Selassie I ))
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Drakonus Laerdon
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.26 19:54:00 -
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Originally by: Neu Bastian Since the topic of time was brought up, letÆs go back in it further. It was the Amarr who first came to Pator in the Day of Darkness and enslaved our people. Twist it any way you want: your false God's will, your personal wicked ways, economic growth through free labor, f'ing enlightenment; no excuse will change the fact that the Amarr where the first aggressor, and nothing you ever say or do can justify or atone for what you have done to our people.
We have Rebeled, we have invaded, and we wage war against against you, all to claim what you have taken from us.
And know that until the philosophy which holds one race superior and another inferior is finally and permanently discredited and abandoned: That until there are no longer first-class and second class citizens of any nation; That until the basic human rights are equally guaranteed to all without regard to race; That until that day, the dream of lasting peace and citizenship and the rule of universal morality will remain but a fleeting illusion, to be pursued but never attained; And that until the ignoble and unhappy regimes that hold our brothers in Amarr, in Khanid, in Ammatar and in CVA space in subhuman bondage have been toppled and destroyed; Until bigotry and prejudice and malicious and inhuman self-interest have been replaced by understanding and tolerance and good-will; That until all Matari stand and speak as free beings, equal in the eyes of all men; That until that day, the Minmatar Republic will not know peace. We Matari will fight, and we know that we shall win, as we are confident in the victory of righteousness over tyranny.
We have brought civilization and enlightenment to your bloodthristy, sub-human race. Your ancestors turned away from God's word millenia ago, and you and your ilk must pay for their sins. Through slavery, many of your kind have cast aside their false pride and learned humility: however, a vast majority have not. As a result they must continue to endure this punishment until the day arrives that they see the Light of the Lord and come to serve Him as their ancestors once did, in ages past.
The current war began when your ape-like "Elders" invaded Amarr when it was at its most peaceful. This war is sprung out of the ignorance and blood-lust of a race of men easily swayed by propaganda, both of your leaders and your true masters, the Gallente.
You claim that you will never stop fighting us? Oh, you will one day, of that I am certain. When your planets are reclaimed by God's Chosen and your leaders executed for their crimes, you will stop fighting.
We are the Chosen of God. He commands us to do His Will. It is WE who will never cease to fight against you blood-thirsty terrorists: we will hunt you down wherever you may go.
The following excerpt of Scripture has become my favorite. It sums up how we feel, and why we fight:
Those who embrace the Lord And walk in light Shall be saved by His grace For we are the shepherds in the dark His Angels of Mercy
Those who turn away from the light And walk in darkness Shall be stuck down by His wrath For we are retribution incarnate His Angels of Vengeance
- Scriptures. Book of Reclaiming 4:45 |
Donte
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: Drakonus Laerdon Those who embrace the Lord And walk in light Shall be saved by His grace For we are the shepherds in the dark His Angels of Mercy
Those who turn away from the light And walk in darkness Shall be stuck down by His wrath For we are retribution incarnate His Angels of Vengeance
- Scriptures. Book of Reclaiming 4:45
That too is among my favorite of the scriptures.
Amarr Victor!
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Cyaxares
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:44:00 -
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I am a simple soldier, I do not claim to be a theologian or a historian. However I must ask what makes the Minmatar different than say the Caldari, we have no interest in this book of empty promises, neither do the Minmatar. Now I can understand the Empire undertaking a war to protect themselves from outside aggressors. But to justify your war as a chance to bring your light to the godless heathens, makes me wonder what lengths they would go to, to ensure your vision spans the galaxy.
Would the empire declare war on the State once the Minmatar have been brought to heel? One of your fanatics said earlier that the empire has no need to invade the others governments of New Eden because they plan to turn us through peaceful means. But no true Caldari has an interest in gods or afterlife, we care only of duty and profit. The Gallente are so wrapped up in their own decadence I doubt they would even stop stuffing their faces long enough to listen to you. So what happens to the State or the Federation when the Amarr realize we cannot be turned to your childish understanding of the universe? |
Arkady Sadik
Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:53:00 -
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How cute. A bunch of kids regurgitating the idiocy they were force-fed throughout their lifes. You'd think this is CAOD, with all the people bathing in the childish glory of their own irrelevant arguments and congratulating each other on their grandioseness.
The Amarrians have managed to replace a system control bunker of the Republic with their own. That is tragic. The first system of the Republic to have that happened to it. Again, tragic. The Amarr capsuleers have shown that they have coherence and were able to create a useful combat force out of the rabble that signed up there. Also, very tragic.
So no, Lantorn is not irrelevant.
But if you think this is in any major way relevant beyond that - I pity your shortsightedness. Do you remember the effects of the Tribal Liberation Force occupying Ezzara? Kourmonen? Or any of the other six systems? Do you even remember all the names of those systems that were "occupied" by the Republic not so long ago? No? Exactly. This war will go on for another hundred years at least, and whether any one system's bunker is in one or the other group's possession now does, in the long run, not matter much.
Oh, and Alicia - I know, "off the overview, off the mind" and all that, but you might want to realize that the Republic Fleet is helping to defend complexes every day, and actually created the militia you are part of.
Why do I bother, though. Being with the Fleet has always been a thankless job.
Sorry for this intermission. Go on with the chestbeating. Or book thumping I guess, whichever might be the case for you.
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Vaarun
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.26 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Neu Bastian Our Failure to Defend Lantorn will only be matched by our determination to take it back.
Dont count victory just yet, this war is far from over.
No.
It was over as soon as you declared it. We won. I have seen your forces come and go, but more the latter than the former.
There were those who balked saying that the Amarr taking Huola was a fluke. 7 recaptured systems and one occupied system later, "fluke" is no longer appropriate. "Inevitable" seems more apt.
But, why waste words? I will let the results speak for themselves. To take all of Minmatar low-sec will take time, but time is on the side of the Empire and the Amarr Militia isn't going anywhere...aside from "forward"... |
Thorvik
Minmatar Valklear Guard
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Posted - 2009.01.26 21:59:00 -
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Originally by: Drakonus Laerdon We have brought civilization and enlightenment to your bloodthristy, sub-human race. Your ancestors turned away from God's word millenia ago, and you and your ilk must pay for their sins.
Your god must be a strange beast to have you believe that the torture of innocent souls and the imprisonment of my people is something for us to be thankful for.
I'm a simple soldier and could care less if you leech the blood from your family and friends as a form of entertainment. What kills me is that you expect my gratitude for bringing ôcivilization and enlightenmentô to our "blood thirsty race". Have you forgotten it is your religion and race that has spawned the Blood Raiders? We live simple but good lives and have no interest in Amarr or what you wish to do. We donÆt need a god to tell us what to do and not to do. We certainly donÆt need a god to make us feel good about ourselves and we definitely donÆt need a god to justify this policy of manifest destiny all wrapped up in the dogma supposedly coming from an imaginary being somewhere ôout thereö.
Under any other circumstance I would put a few ISK in your cup and keep walking thinking to myself that it a shame that a man such as yourself to have lost your mind and be forced to live on the streets.
I too had an imaginary friend when I was a young pup running around my familyÆs ankles. I grew up and didnÆt need that friend to feel good about myself anymore. ItÆs about time that the Amarr grow up and give up their imaginary friend and to stop blaming it for their dementia. Don't take what is ours and expect us to sit and be grateful like the dogs you think we are. We are a proud race ready to take you and anyone else on who threaten our families and our way of life. You may have small victories such as Lantorn but we will persevere and the pain you feel now will only grow until it consumes your every day.
Hunt us down if you will and but donÆt expect us to be running. We will be waiting at every turn. My brothers and I will pile your bodies up and allow them to rot in the warmth of the nearest star. Let your god figure out what to do with them. Turn the corner and you will find us there at the ready. You have the wealth to mount large offensives yet we still see you run when we come. Your ships and pilots are seen often near stations and only when the numbers are sufficiently large do you leave the protective places. If you think you have succeeded just remember that we not only hunt you in our territories but are among yours as well. Do you or any of your people check the local for war targets prior to undocking? Do you check through the intel to see where we are prior to taking out one of your battleships? We are there and you are afraid. Fear us puny little Amarrian for when I go down in flames I will have taken down more than my share of your compatriots. My brothers will take up the fight when I am gone and more will rise up once they fall. We do not fight for any imaginary beings; we fight for our families, our tribes and our Republic. Long live the Republic and we will gladly trade you Blood for Freedom!
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Drakonus Laerdon
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.26 22:28:00 -
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Originally by: Thorvik
*ape-like grunting*
Run, and you shall be crushed. Stand, and you shall fall. Kneel, and you shall be saved. - Emperor Arrach Sarum. CE 21423
Remember these words, sub-human. ---------------
Non Nobis, Domine, Non Nobis, Sed nomini tuo da gloriam. |
Red Katherine
Ammatar Free Corps
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Posted - 2009.01.26 23:01:00 -
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Edited by: Red Katherine on 26/01/2009 23:02:17 The energy of the tribes is fitful and frenetic. As the Amarrians predicted, the Liberation Force has weakened itself in a youthful overreaching. The Empire, in its infinite patience, has absorbed the attack of the Minmatar, rallied, and now descends upon the Republic like a host of fiery angels.
Lantorn is but the beginning - the hammerfall of imperial might will be felt across Heimatar. Death and destruction will be in the fore, slavery and suffering in the wake.
I once grieved for you, cousins, but no longer. The flock of your sin has come home to roost; each oily black bird chirps 'Jarizza, Jarizza!' in testament to your treachery. |
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Casiella Truza
White Rose Society
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Posted - 2009.01.27 04:22:00 -
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I hope all that ice in Lantorn turns a profit for you Amarr, because you won't find much else there. |
Heromann
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Posted - 2009.01.27 05:34:00 -
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Around and around you all go............
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Graelyn
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.27 07:56:00 -
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Originally by: Cyaxares Now I can understand the Empire undertaking a war to protect themselves from outside aggressors. But to justify your war as a chance to bring your light to the godless heathens, makes me wonder what lengths they would go to, to ensure your vision spans the galaxy.
Would the empire declare war on the State once the Minmatar have been brought to heel? One of your fanatics said earlier that the empire has no need to invade the others governments of New Eden because they plan to turn us through peaceful means. But no true Caldari has an interest in gods or afterlife, we care only of duty and profit. The Gallente are so wrapped up in their own decadence I doubt they would even stop stuffing their faces long enough to listen to you. So what happens to the State or the Federation when the Amarr realize we cannot be turned to your childish understanding of the universe?
We believe that someday you will. But we are in no hurry. You are friends, a bloodline of infinite value and strong values. We are infinitely patient with wise friends, regardless of current beliefs. War will probably never be necessary between us.
Understand that there is no need for hostile reclaiming in this current age. This has been the policy of Heideraan VII, and Doraim II after him, and Jamyl I after him. Three Emperors in a row. The mandate by God is clear.
However, the Matari attacked us, marked themselves as an ever-present danger. They condemned themselves to the most difficult path. Yet we will set them upon it properly, but without patience, without friendship, without mercy. |
Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.27 11:39:00 -
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As I have said previously, the war will be a long one, and its tides will both ebb and flow before Amarr achieves it's final victory.
Whilst the Reclaiming of Lantorn is a cause for celebration, let us not confuse victory in the battle for victory in the war.
Our task continues.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Kazzzi
Amarr Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.01.27 23:46:00 -
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Rens, Brutor Tribe Bureau
Kazzzi signs a request to the quartermaster for blankets and hands it to an aide. He looks over to where the TES Knucklebiter is being unloaded. He looks at the distraught faces of the Lantorn refuges. He watches children who will never see their parents again being led off by social workers. He stares up at the TES Knucklebiters hull where the faded outline of a removed Imperial Amarrian crest is still visible. Kazzzi clenches his fists and jaw, his hands shake, a blood vessel bursts in his eye. Fleet personel quickly step out of the way as he storms off towards his combat hangar, his face a mask of rage. |
Esna Pitoojee
Amarr Heavily Utilized Mechanic Mayhem
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Posted - 2009.01.28 02:19:00 -
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Originally by: Heromann Around and around you all go............
This is, quite frankly, the most insightful thing I have heard in this entire discussion. ----------------------------------------------
Say "Amarr ships suk, lol." I dare you.
My statments do not represent the opinions, views, or actions of my corp. |
Davlos
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari
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Posted - 2009.01.28 02:35:00 -
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You run away. |
Scagga Laebetrovo
Ammatar Free Corps
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Posted - 2009.01.28 07:43:00 -
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Originally by: Davlos You run away.
There is hidden knee-deep depth in this observation.
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BattleStar Crusader
Amarr Absinthe Brothers Consortium
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Posted - 2009.01.30 17:08:00 -
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Im not partial to all this capturing systems crap, it just gives the minmitar more reason to whine and the role players of the amarr militia a bigger ego. The fact reamins the combat pilots are fighting this war and winning it. Quikly anihalating the rebel forces within the complex's then moving out allowing the loyalist to take it. You have your alliances to help you ,we have none. Star fraction have lowered the standards to fight along side such scum. The fall of lantorn was a planned and beatifuly executed plan with which the conclusion came and litle cost. The expereince and superior combat pilots of the Amarr militia are winning this war and are the reason your fetal fleets cannot defend you own space.
Battlestar Crusader CEO of Absinthe Borhters Consortium |
Arkady Sadik
Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2009.01.30 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: BattleStar Crusader You have your alliances to help you ,we have none.
It would be completely beyond the Amarr Militia to utilize, say, the motherships of an external alliance in fleet fights, or accept CVA support. Only the Minmatar do such low things.
Merdaneth, add "self-deception" to the list, after "lies" and "gullibility". |
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Scagga Laebetrovo
Ammatar Free Corps
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Posted - 2009.01.30 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: Arkady Sadik
Originally by: BattleStar Crusader You have your alliances to help you ,we have none.
It would be completely beyond the Amarr Militia to utilize, say, the motherships of an external alliance in fleet fights, or accept CVA support. Only the Minmatar do such low things.
Merdaneth, add "self-deception" to the list, after "lies" and "gullibility".
Such blissfully ignorant sarcasm. |
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