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Gierling
Gallente Viper Squad
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Posted - 2009.01.16 17:19:00 -
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We got the tier 2 BC's a long while back, but the Destroyer class still goes unloved and underutilized.
I really like the concept of allowing them to do something very very well that a newer player probably wouldn't be able to experience for a while at the expense of its other stats.
(Specifically in the case of the Tier 1 destroyers, they all do a good amount of damage more then frigs, while being very difficult to make survivable)
How would you go about tier 2 Destroyers?
I think ewar bonused to each races secondary EWAR would fit the whole "Keeps the frigs away from your bigger ships" angle that destroyers have pretty well, don't give em any damage bonuses, just give web/Nos etc bonuses.
Also the Gallente Tier two should be a mirror image of the Catalyst, that would be hilarous.
Also we need Tier 2 Dreads soon too... mainly cus the Moros looks like a tugboat and I want a cool looking Dread to tool around in. |
Gideon Eisenhorn
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Posted - 2009.01.16 17:22:00 -
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isnt there already t2 destroyers as such? interdictors? or was it recons, I forget...
maybe its just the hull that is transfered... |
TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.01.16 17:26:00 -
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Originally by: Gideon Eisenhorn isnt there already t2 destroyers as such? interdictors? or was it recons, I forget...
maybe its just the hull that is transfered...
Tier 2 <> Tech 2. |
Jonas Barcal
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.01.16 17:29:00 -
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Hopefully they won't release any more fixed ships at all..
I'm hoping from it's initial start T3 will allow evolve into varied ships built from small frig size all the way up to Cap ship size with no fixed classes.
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Vabjekf
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Posted - 2009.01.16 17:35:00 -
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They honestly wouldnt have to do much to be creative about them. Make them all missile boats.
8x regular launcher, -50% rof, +25% flight time, +5% explosion velocity and +5% damage bonus for racial missile damage type per destroyer level.
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Cedric Diggory
Perfunctory Oleaginous Laocoon Mugwumps
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Posted - 2009.01.16 17:37:00 -
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Quote: I'm hoping from it's initial start T3 will allow evolve into varied ships built from small frig size all the way up to Cap ship size with no fixed classes.
I think EON published that they are all going to be based on Cruiser hulls, meaning that you'll probably be able to strip one down as far as a Destroyer and up as far as a Battlecruiser.
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Gierling
Gallente Viper Squad
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Posted - 2009.01.16 17:49:00 -
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Originally by: Vabjekf They honestly wouldnt have to do much to be creative about them. Make them all missile boats.
8x regular launcher, -50% rof, +25% flight time, +5% explosion velocity and +5% damage bonus for racial missile damage type per destroyer level.
Boo hiss!
*Throws rotten fruit at the filthy missille user*
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Patrice Macmahon
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.17 03:07:00 -
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Simple, remove the -25% rof penalty and add 2x +25% & 1x +10% resistances, 3 mid, 3 low, and keep the cpu and powergrid about the same for tight fittings and increase base speed marginally. I'd be happy with that. Same ship only better, like the assult frigs.
The Intakis have an obligatin to defend the Federation, but not to assult others on its behalf. |
steave435
Caldari SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2009.01.17 03:25:00 -
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Originally by: Patrice Macmahon Simple, remove the -25% rof penalty and add 2x +25% & 1x +10% resistances, 3 mid, 3 low, and keep the cpu and powergrid about the same for tight fittings and increase base speed marginally. I'd be happy with that. Same ship only better, like the assult frigs.
Tier 2, not tech 2, like ferox VS drake, not ferox VS nighthawk/vulture. |
Patrice Macmahon
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.17 03:38:00 -
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Ooops! Epic Phail on my part. |
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Tulisin Dragonflame
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Posted - 2009.01.17 05:03:00 -
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Edited by: Tulisin Dragonflame on 17/01/2009 05:04:38
A drone-specced tier 2 Gallente destroyer that can field a rack of boosted light drones for frigpoppage would be winsauce. Plus we'd have a light drone ship again after what happened to the poor imicus.
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lech lizdian
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Posted - 2009.01.17 05:07:00 -
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Originally by: Gierling We got the tier 2 BC's a long while back, but the Destroyer class still goes unloved and underutilized.
I really like the concept of allowing them to do something very very well that a newer player probably wouldn't be able to experience for a while at the expense of its other stats.
(Specifically in the case of the Tier 1 destroyers, they all do a good amount of damage more then frigs, while being very difficult to make survivable)
How would you go about tier 2 Destroyers?
I think ewar bonused to each races secondary EWAR would fit the whole "Keeps the frigs away from your bigger ships" angle that destroyers have pretty well, don't give em any damage bonuses, just give web/Nos etc bonuses.
Also the Gallente Tier two should be a mirror image of the Catalyst, that would be hilarous.
Also we need Tier 2 Dreads soon too... mainly cus the Moros looks like a tugboat and I want a cool looking Dread to tool around in.
does not matter what you want this ship to do... you will be able to design a tech III modular version of the ship that will satisfy the niche that you are trying to fill...
the only new tech II ship i want to see is a techII bs for tier 3 bs's...
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Gierling
Gallente Viper Squad
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Posted - 2009.01.17 08:33:00 -
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Originally by: lech lizdian
does not matter what you want this ship to do... you will be able to design a tech III modular version of the ship that will satisfy the niche that you are trying to fill...
the only new tech II ship i want to see is a techII bs for tier 3 bs's...
Only the cruiser components will be coming out for tIII in this patch, if were lucky we might get frig and BS tIII ships in the next two content patches. I DOUBT we will get Destroyer or BC size TIII Ships ever (seeing as how we have had the intermediate shiptypes for nearly 4 years now and we still don't have size appropriatte ABs and MWDs etc) |
Branmuffin Layne
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Posted - 2009.01.17 09:02:00 -
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A Gall drone Destroyer would be pretty sick, with a drone damage bonus and a 40m3 dronebay 25mbps drone bandwith, say with a 4-3-4 slot loadout... That would be pretty scary.
On the flip side say a 6-7 launcher caldari destroyer, also sick.
Amarr destroyer with Nos range and efficiency bonuses, Minmater destroyer with Webber range and strength bonuses.
All of those would be a great way of saying "don't **** with my gangmates" to any tacklers short of a hictor. |
Deva Blackfire
coracao ardente
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Posted - 2009.01.17 09:33:00 -
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@ op: hopefully NEVER
tier1 ones are total crap so CCP would need to fix those first so they dont instadie as soon as something looks at you funny
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