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Han Shi
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Posted - 2009.01.14 10:53:00 -
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Originally by: LEGO Commander Darmok, and Jalad at Tanagra.
Shaka, when the walls fell.
Temba, his arms wide!
Sokath, his eyes uncovered?
Darmok and Jalad on the ocean.
Dobrodeteli - a defect of the temptation. The Pain - an illusion feeling, Despair - an illusion of the reason
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Fa Lin
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Posted - 2009.01.14 11:00:00 -
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Edited by: Fa Lin on 14/01/2009 11:00:58
Originally by: Rondo Gunn
Originally by: Fa Lin That module, which there is, is intended for installing on carriers only, rather then on usual ships.
The module, which the carrier is only having, perhaps, I think is too large for usual ships. 3rd Tech, maybe allow more possiblility?
The Speech goes not about size Ships, but about reception capacity pilot channel drones. Once he there is, signifies its possible use. The problem is, no in play of the possibility to use it on max. Why it is impossible enter these device for simple Ships if skills allow their use.
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Rondo Gunn
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2009.01.14 11:07:00 -
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Originally by: Fa Lin Edited by: Fa Lin on 14/01/2009 11:00:58
Originally by: Rondo Gunn
Originally by: Fa Lin That module, which there is, is intended for installing on carriers only, rather then on usual ships.
The module, which the carrier is only having, perhaps, I think is too large for usual ships. 3rd Tech, maybe allow more possiblility?
The Speech goes not about size Ships, but about reception capacity pilot channel drones. Once he there is, signifies its possible use. The problem is, no in play of the possibility to use it on max. Why it is impossible enter these device for simple Ships if skills allow their use.
That question is good... shin ku myo u
Please note: Everything I say is flavored with irony, cynicism and, of course, minty freshness. |
Fa Lin
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Posted - 2009.01.14 11:51:00 -
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It Is Offered that module that there is, translate on management Fighters only. And enter separate modules for ugravleniya separate class Drones (combat, mining , Logistics)
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Han Shi
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Posted - 2009.01.16 19:47:00 -
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And all =aOF it is necessary that that does with amount Drones I all bias to thoughts that it is necessary to take away the restriction with skill Drones or allow to use additional drones on skill Advanced Drone Interface without device Control Unit don't care, more than possible take under checking with account of reception capacity pilot channel is not got. |
Turgun
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Posted - 2009.01.17 14:44:00 -
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Your use of them to transfer funds arent you? Dont they have enough work...
google translate is crap.... but funny |
Captain Pompous
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Posted - 2009.01.17 14:47:00 -
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Originally by: Turgun Your use of them to transfer funds arent you? Dont they have enough work...
google translate is crap.... but funny
If i were you, I wouldn't bandy around RMT accusations like that just because English isn't his or her first language... |
Severice
Crushed Ambitions
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Posted - 2009.01.17 16:30:00 -
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Edited by: Severice on 17/01/2009 16:32:31 The reason for the drones skill is that drone bandwidth alone is NOT a limiter in the same way the drones skill is.
Drones skill = FIVE drones, hard limit. (carrier excluded)
Bandwidth = how much information you can SEND to your drones (and receive)
125 bandwidth, with drones skill 5 = 5 heavy drones.
If you take out the drones skill.
125 bandwidth, unlimited drones = 25 light drones.
The DPS per bandwidth usage is highly stacked in the smaller drones advantage. Medium drone's don't do double the damage of light drones.
A hobgoblin II drone out of a Vexor with all V's deals 30dps. A hammerhead II drone out of a Vexor with all V's deals 47dps. A ogre II drone out of a Vexor with all V's deals 97dps.
The drones skill is to force pilots to upgrade to the larger drones if they want increased DPS instead of relying only on waves of light drones.
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Marchant LaCroix
Gallente Ma-Ven Industries
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Posted - 2009.01.17 20:00:00 -
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Despite what I can only assume is a heavy use of babelfish...
The drone skill is valid, as too is bandwidth as the previous poster said.
However, some of the bandwidth choices do leave a little to be desired. Considering that the myrmidon is supposed to be a drone carrier and thus the Eos (effectively T2 myrmi) both can only manage a rather poor 75 bandwidth.
I think that a better implementation of bandwidth would be to tie both these things together. Make it so that the skill gives you the ability to use a certain amount of bandwidth i.e. 25 per level (giving max 125MBps) as well as a balancing of bandwidth itself so that heavies use say... 20 MBps so that sentries maintain their high profile whilst heavies are more accessible with regards to bandwidth restrictions on ships.Of course this doesn't help us poor gall players with our nerfed drone carriers but... a little move up to 100MBps (giving us access to heavies but NOT sentries) would soon sort that. What you think? |
Fa Lin
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Posted - 2009.01.20 10:47:00 -
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Originally by: Marchant LaCroix Despite what I can only assume is a heavy use of babelfish...
The drone skill is valid, as too is bandwidth as the previous poster said.
However, some of the bandwidth choices do leave a little to be desired. Considering that the myrmidon is supposed to be a drone carrier and thus the Eos (effectively T2 myrmi) both can only manage a rather poor 75 bandwidth.
I think that a better implementation of bandwidth would be to tie both these things together. Make it so that the skill gives you the ability to use a certain amount of bandwidth i.e. 25 per level (giving max 125MBps) as well as a balancing of bandwidth itself so that heavies use say... 20 MBps so that sentries maintain their high profile whilst heavies are more accessible with regards to bandwidth restrictions on ships.Of course this doesn't help us poor gall players with our nerfed drone carriers but... a little move up to 100MBps (giving us access to heavies but NOT sentries) would soon sort that. What you think?
Apropos, not bad idea, translate the area of the restrictions of the skill Drones on pilot channel itself. And that was not a breaches of the balance of the type 20 light Drones under management to change the requirements to pilot channel beside themselves Drones. For instance: combat light, medium and heavy combat drones - 10,15 and 20 Mbit/s. Though I have offered to do the requirements beside Drones alike within one type (combat, mining, logistic, electronic warfare), since beside them in principal problem miscellaneous. And will in this instance be without difference, how much and what drones to use.
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Velimir Adjes
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Posted - 2009.01.20 11:01:00 -
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Well... if and when S=efa8 to do more or mania alike requirements, that it is enough simply to enter the device for expansion of the channel upravleniya. in skills Drones Interface and Advanced Drone Interfece to translate the channel into efficiency of the use. but skill Drones to direct on efficiency of the use themselves drones. Herewith not to limit amount used device of the expansion on skill, since for combat drones will be a restriction in the manner of drone capacity and in this instance, same Mermidon will use 3 heavy Drones + 6 medium railguns or 5 heavy drones + 4 medium railguns |
Han Shi
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Posted - 2009.01.24 14:06:00 -
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Originally by: Velimir Adjes Well... if and when S=efa8 to do more or mania alike requirements, that it is enough simply to enter the device for expansion of the channel upravleniya. in skills Drones Interface and Advanced Drone Interfece to translate the channel into efficiency of the use. but skill Drones to direct on efficiency of the use themselves drones. Herewith not to limit amount used device of the expansion on skill, since for combat drones will be a restriction in the manner of drone capacity and in this instance, same Mermidon will use 3 heavy Drones + 6 medium railguns or 5 heavy drones + 4 medium railguns
Interesting, to that this can bring..... But at least once tactics boa with use drones must. |
Han Shi
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Posted - 2009.01.27 14:56:00 -
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Edited by: Han Shi on 27/01/2009 14:59:11 Edited by: Han Shi on 27/01/2009 14:57:57 There is other variant: 1. to enter the device Drone Control Unit following types: Small -> 5 Mb/s; CPU 15 tf; POWER 7 MW; Active Cost 2,15 Energy; Activation time 3,25 sec; Medium -> 10 Mb/s; CPU 35 tf; POWER 180 MW; Active Cost 6,45 Energy; Activation time 4.88 sec; Large -> 25 Mb/s; CPU 60 tf; POWER 1875 MW; Active Cost 22 Energy; Activation time 7,31 sec; Capital -> 125 Mb/s; CPU 120 tf; POWER 125000 MW; Active Cost 272 Energy; Activation time 14,35 sec; 2. Skill Drone allows to use before 5 drones with use the base channel ship (if he there is) 3. Skills Drone Interface and Advanced Drone Interface will give 10% efficiency of governing the channel for level skill, from general amount all in addition installed on nave of the modules of management (For instance: amount bonus 50% , is installed 4 Large Control Unit, Ship has a pilot channel 125 Mb/s, hiccupped: 125+4*25*0,5=175 Mb/s ) 4. for realizing of management drones over 5 pieces, necessary to fasten drone to module of the checking (similarly installing the amunition in gun ). If module loses the energy that clinging to him drone is disconnected and does not execute the orders (the current order is cancealled) and he falls into condition, similarly that if ship has left in warp and has left drone in cosmos. But in difference if energy will be a tax on device of the checking once again, that drone will again become active (without needing select it in manual mode in drone bay).
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Sigras
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Posted - 2009.01.27 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: LEGO Commander Darmok, and Jalad at Tanagra.
Shaka, when the walls fell.
Temba, his arms wide!
Sokath, his eyes uncovered?
Darmok and Jalad on the ocean.
ok . . . i almost died when i saw this
and i think the same argument can be made here as was made for targeting.
yes, your ship can target 10 targets at the same time, but your brain cant track them all at the same time.
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Han Shi
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Posted - 2009.01.27 15:21:00 -
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Originally by: Sigras
ok . . . i almost died when i saw this
and i think the same argument can be made here as was made for targeting.
yes, your ship can target 10 targets at the same time, but your brain cant track them all at the same time.
The Idea in that that in addition device of the checking - a device not requiring instruction to purposes, under its activations it will simply give their own bonuses ship and only. Accordingly unless will be clinging to device drones then at skill drone 5 lv , under checking will be whole 5 drones if total pilot channel this will allow |
Fa Lin
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Posted - 2009.01.27 21:20:00 -
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Originally by: Han Shi
The Idea in that that in addition device of the checking - a device not requiring instruction to purposes, under its activations it will simply give their own bonuses ship and only. Accordingly unless will be clinging to device drones then at skill drone 5 lv , under checking will be whole 5 drones if total pilot channel this will allow
in addition... Possible else add in play Rig, which simply added drone under checking, but reduced volume of the base channel |
Fa Lin
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Posted - 2009.01.31 18:00:00 -
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yes... Rig enlarging base amount neSOef==ednfv) drones looked at oneself quite well, only in this instance it is necessary to delimit the limit a level drone depending on level rig. But hereto was quite well enter and device fs8efepe other actions: =GdF˜FGa¦·Fs drone bay for count cargo. |
Thargat
Caldari North Star Networks Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2009.01.31 18:28:00 -
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Occasionally can language create problem when man shall try explain problem for other the internet user. Drones bandwidth ought however not have especially much with skills that do without depend more on hardware in ship. |
Fa Lin
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Posted - 2009.01.31 18:43:00 -
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Edited by: Fa Lin on 31/01/2009 18:44:23
Originally by: Thargat Occasionally can language create problem when man shall try explain problem for other the internet user. Drones bandwidth ought however not have especially much with skills that do without depend more on hardware in ship.
But why strictly no? there is device enlarging efficiency of the use the arms, but drones too most weapon, why then have put delivered the restriction on use drones. Strictly, amount of the arms depends on possibility ship to carry this arms, rather then from navykov. beside drones too there is restriction: drone bay and bandwidth needed. Why then limit the amount an drones. And if folk herds before use S=efeG without these restrictions, that better enter device, which will allow to use more than 5 drones on usual ship |
Sephy'Ra
Ascendant Strategies Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.31 20:11:00 -
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Totally off-topic: Ask Google what "mania aktualinym" means and you'll get 1 hit - THIS THREAD! LMAO! looks like someone invented a new language |
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AnonyTerrorNinja
Minmatar Buggers' Advanced Interstellar Transport
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Posted - 2009.02.01 01:06:00 -
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TROLL IN THE DUNGEON!!!
Thought you ought to know... *faints* ---
Incognito - Fierce - Deadly - IFD (Intergallactic Federation of Dummies) aka ATN
Ikari Dimji > I mustn't run away... I MUSTN'T RUN AWAY... I MUSTN'T RUN AWA- ooh, skittles! :D
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Zantei
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Posted - 2009.02.01 02:38:00 -
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Originally by: LEGO Commander Darmok, and Jalad at Tanagra.
Shaka, when the walls fell.
Temba, his arms wide!
Sokath, his eyes uncovered?
Darmok and Jalad on the ocean.
hahahaha, I remember that episode! XD |
NightF0x
Gallente Intergalactic League of Terrorists
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Posted - 2009.02.01 04:27:00 -
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anyone else's head hurt after trying to read this thread? |
Fa Lin
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Posted - 2009.02.05 22:51:00 -
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yes.... folk obviously does not bottom in problem, which is here discussed. (in the last resort change translator, not all well have english) |
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