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David Kang
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Posted - 2008.12.31 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: HankMurphy
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
No no. The bits we can detect occurring in galaxies 12 billion light years away, those are the ones that come from the poles. They're like a gamma ray shotgun, but a GRB is by no means restricted in lethality to those narrow polar axes. That's why being anywhere within the stellar neighbourhood of a GRB is considered "bad" for creatures made of easily broiled meat. And we are firmly in the kill-radius of at least one candidate star - a star so murderous, so devoted to the radiation-slaughter of mankind, that it has actually gone supernova once before - and survived.
It waits.
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JordanParey
Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2009.01.01 03:04:00 -
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I just had a ****ty thought
Is it even theoretically possible for the "big one" (earthquake/eruption) at Yellowstone to be so powerful that it triggers a ****storm along the San Andreas fault line in CA?
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Captain Hudson
Caldari Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.01.01 05:43:00 -
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dont get hit by a bus tomorrow, because thats more likely to happen than the number of 2012 end of the world idea's in this thread, the only danger for 2012 is the fact we londoners have the olympics and we may have to kill you all
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Adyriana
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Posted - 2009.01.01 06:02:00 -
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Originally by: HankMurphy I have to wonder...
with all our technology, i know we can't go so far as to impact plate tectonics yet however in the case of Yellowstone, wouldn't we be able to drill some holes to alleviate some of the pressure that builds?
Of course i'm sure if this were possible, someone would have already considered it... but i've never heard someone explain why this isn't a possibility.
During the Cold War, both the US and Moder Russia did some experiments on equipments which provoked small earthquakes. What I understood from that documentary is that if you try to provoke a little earthquake, or as you suggest 'unleash a little pressure', it doesn't require much before your plans of releasing just 'a little' ends in a disaster. If you plan in drilling down, you can very much likely ruin the balanced pressure down below, and the magma will easily find its way to the surface trough the hole you just drilled, and whips, you got yourself a bbq parteyh
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Bahhs Deep
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Posted - 2009.01.01 06:57:00 -
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Edited by: Bahhs Deep on 01/01/2009 06:59:07 ...
This thread went from great to crap in less than a page...
Originally by: Of Montreal afaik Yellowstone typically has multiple earthquakes a day, its not abnormal. In 2002 alone it had over 2300 earthquakes. But yeah if yellowstone blows we are fracked.
The thing that makes this abnormal is that a few of those earthquakes were about 3.0. Normally they are lower.
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5pinDizzy
Amarr Umpteenth Podding
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Posted - 2009.01.01 20:53:00 -
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Dammit I don't want Yellowstone to pop and kill the yanks. :(
Heck I don't like them but if they go we're left with the Russians and the Chinese.
Ya'll can stay at my place till it blows over if ya like. I'll move some stuff in the basement.
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JordanParey
Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2009.01.01 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: 5pinDizzy Dammit I don't want Yellowstone to pop and kill the yanks. :(
Heck I don't like them but if they go we're left with the Russians and the Chinese.
Ya'll can stay at my place till it blows over if ya like. I'll move some stuff in the basement.
Thanks for the offer
I'll bring the beer if you bring the *****es
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5pinDizzy
Amarr Umpteenth Podding
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Posted - 2009.01.01 21:19:00 -
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Edited by: 5pinDizzy on 01/01/2009 21:23:31
I'm trying to think what buzzwords or headlines Fox or CNN would use in an event of yellowstone stepping up though. I'm thinking something along the lines of "Mother Nature turned Eco-Terrorist threatens US economic future and share prices by planning to wipe out entire population".
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Dantes Revenge
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.01.01 22:26:00 -
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Edited by: Dantes Revenge on 01/01/2009 22:27:17 See what you did? I told you that toxic waste would give Old Faithful gut problems. Mommy nature has had to give him some gripe water and now were all in trouble.
-- There's a simple difference between kinky and perverted. Kinky is using a feather to get her in the mood. Perverted is using the whole chicken. All this has happened before and will happen again |
Atomos Darksun
Damage Incorporated.
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Posted - 2009.01.01 22:38:00 -
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This thread needs saving.
This activity is nothing unusual. Every one of those little red marks on that graphic represent an event exactly like the one we are facing now. This is simply blatant fear mongering by the media and your peers. Yes, these all could be signs leading to an eruption, but also according to that graph, these same signs also decreased the pressure of the magma chamber back in the 80's, which it may do again, or lead to an eruption.
DO NOT take the last sentence with any fear, unless you live next door to Yellowstone. This most likely will not culminate in an eruption, and if it does, chances are it will NOT be a super-eruption. It has had many small (for Yellowstone) eruptions in the past - the last one was 70,000 years ago. None of the blatant signs of an eruption (especially a super-eruption) exist as of today.
Please people, trust the science and scientists before you trust the media. They've downplayed every geologist's attempt at telling them that this is nothing unusual. What is usual, however, is that the mainstream media needs to shut their face.
Originally by: Amoxin My vent is talking to me in a devil voice...
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David Kang
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Posted - 2009.01.01 22:54:00 -
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Originally by: Atomos Darksun This thread needs saving.
This activity is nothing unusual. Every one of those little red marks on that graphic represent an event exactly like the one we are facing now. This is simply blatant fear mongering by the media and your peers. Yes, these all could be signs leading to an eruption, but also according to that graph, these same signs also decreased the pressure of the magma chamber back in the 80's, which it may do again, or lead to an eruption.
DO NOT take the last sentence with any fear, unless you live next door to Yellowstone. This most likely will not culminate in an eruption, and if it does, chances are it will NOT be a super-eruption. It has had many small (for Yellowstone) eruptions in the past - the last one was 70,000 years ago. None of the blatant signs of an eruption (especially a super-eruption) exist as of today.
Please people, trust the science and scientists before you trust the media. They've downplayed every geologist's attempt at telling them that this is nothing unusual. What is usual, however, is that the mainstream media needs to shut their face.
Hay i trust my scientist (i am an engineer dammit )
And agreed the media has been busy eh
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Atomos Darksun
Damage Incorporated.
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Posted - 2009.01.03 04:34:00 -
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Nice to know that my level-headedness and graph successfully killed this thread <3
Originally by: Amoxin My vent is talking to me in a devil voice...
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JordanParey
Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2009.01.03 05:49:00 -
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Originally by: Atomos Darksun Nice to know that my level-headedness and graph successfully killed this thread <3
bastard.
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Pj Harvey
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.01.03 07:13:00 -
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Originally by: Arvald
Originally by: Cmdr Sy Edited by: Cmdr Sy on 28/12/2008 19:54:40
By the way, this might have been posted already, but it is worth a look:
Linkification, baby!
\ damn good movie right there
just watched it A++ would recommend it
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Atomos Darksun
Damage Incorporated.
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Posted - 2009.01.11 06:57:00 -
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Edited by: Atomos Darksun on 11/01/2009 07:07:07 http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/yvo/publications/2009/09swarm.php
Still just an earthquake swarm, one that's decreasing in activity (but may not be ending).
MD isn't vaporized yet.
Originally by: Amoxin My vent is talking to me in a devil voice...
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ToxicFire
Phoenix Knights
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Posted - 2009.01.11 11:40:00 -
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That post is a lil dated now if you were following the activity in realtime you'd know that the specific swarm stopped a few days back there was a light pause and a light swarm has started up somewhere else. ------------------------------------------ Sig removed as it lacks EVE-related content. Mail [email protected] if you have questions. -Hango
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Vabjekf
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Posted - 2009.01.11 12:11:00 -
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Edited by: Vabjekf on 11/01/2009 12:16:27 Edited by: Vabjekf on 11/01/2009 12:15:57 Lets say you have 10 thousand people, how long could they last by eating each other in the most conservative way possible with out any external food source?
Also could we survive a GRB if we made some underground habitats properly shielded that had their own sustainable ecosystem?
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ToxicFire
Phoenix Knights
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Posted - 2009.01.11 12:52:00 -
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Originally by: Vabjekf Edited by: Vabjekf on 11/01/2009 12:16:27 Edited by: Vabjekf on 11/01/2009 12:15:57 Lets say you have 10 thousand people, how long could they last by eating each other in the most conservative way possible with out any external food source?
Also could we survive a GRB if we made some underground habitats properly shielded that had their own sustainable ecosystem?
Like a vault perhaps?
A rough estimate for survival without food is 3 weeks so assume each person eats one person to survive another 3 weeks therefore population halves every 3 weeks so the population would halve 5000 times roughly around 288-289 years of course, ppl would die off far earlier because of diseases limited diet and natural aging.
Survival of GRB is possible in a self contained ecosystem the issue is shielding against the gamma rays though which will penetrate almost all known shields to some extent, to provide adequate shielding we wander into the realms of electromagnetic based shielding which we're only starting to explore and develop atm one of the primary causes for its development will be the shielding for spacecraft during long interplanetary voyages to protect the crew from solar radiation exposure needless to say the power requirements for producing these types of shields atm is vast. |
Vabjekf
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Posted - 2009.01.11 12:57:00 -
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thats not a satisfactory answer, i dont think youve properly worked out how much of a person another person needs to eat to survive a given period of time in a sustainable fashion
Also what if everyone ate a couple of their own limbs? that's not only food for them, but less of themselves they need to continually sustain, so they need to eat less.
This is an interesting question that i am strangely very curious about. |
ToxicFire
Phoenix Knights
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Posted - 2009.01.11 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: Vabjekf thats not a satisfactory answer, i dont think youve properly worked out how much of a person another person needs to eat to survive a given period of time in a sustainable fashion
Also what if everyone ate a couple of their own limbs? that's not only food for them, but less of themselves they need to continually sustain, so they need to eat less.
This is an interesting question that i am strangely very curious about.
You need to throw in quite a few more variables if you want a more specific answer, yes I did take one human corpse as an arbitrary amount enough to sustain someone for another 3 weeks
In reality during the first 3 weeks you burn off fat reserves and most likely some muscle mass.
You've got to consider variables such as ambient temperature how much a person is moving between each meal their starting reserves how fat, skinny whether there fit or unfit how healthy they are whether they have a high or low metabolism the percentage oxygen in the atmosphere. probably many more i can't think of atm.
the nutritional value of a corpse would also decrease over time as ppl got skinnier and unhealthy from eating a limited diet and the onset of diseases. ppls nutritional input for survival varies greatly so theres not one specific answer you can give to what they would need to continually sustain a large group.
Chopping off a limb and eating it is actually more of a drain on a persons resources than simply keeping it if its healthy, the person would undergo a major trauma unless the wound cauterised as its cut the person is going experience some major blood loss which the body will replace using up more resources same is true for fighting off possible infection, in a weakened state further along its quite possible that the trauma of loosing a limb could outright kill the person.
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Vabjekf
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Posted - 2009.01.11 13:26:00 -
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so that limb thing is interesting, that answers that question.
we need data and charts and such for everything else >< how annoying |
SniperWo1f
Omega Enterprises 0mega Factor
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Posted - 2009.01.11 23:17:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Before y'all panic, you should know that Yellowstone is extremely seismically active. 10 quakes in a day or whatever is pretty normal for that region. Now, if I were looking for something to panic about, I'd think about Eta Carinae - a star within 6,000 LY of earth, considered to be a likely candidate for a massive Gamma Ray Burst.
Cool thing is, it could have exploded 5,999 years ago, and we wouldn't know it because the light from the blast hasn't arrived here yet. There could be a screaming holocaust of humanity-frying gamma radiation barrelling toward us right now!
then will all be transformed into incredible hulks and the we can kick yelowstones a$$ .... crisis averted... |
IVeige
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Posted - 2009.01.11 23:33:00 -
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are we dead yet ?
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Alex V0X2
Minmatar Exiled. Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2009.01.12 05:33:00 -
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Originally by: IVeige are we dead yet ?
Almost there...
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Atomos Darksun
Damage Incorporated.
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Posted - 2009.01.12 05:50:00 -
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I should know better than to necro threads.
Originally by: Amoxin My vent is talking to me in a devil voice...
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LethalOne
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Posted - 2009.01.13 22:29:00 -
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Im wondering noone did post this yet:
Exit Mundi
Has supervolcanoes, asteroid impacts, verneshots (combination of supervolcanoes and asteroid impacts), Planet X, gamma ray bursts, the mayan calender and much more.
Congrats if you can think of a way the world is going to end thats not listed there...
(and makes at least a bit sense) |
Karrade Krise
Galatic P0RN Starz
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Posted - 2009.01.13 23:07:00 -
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Originally by: LethalOne Im wondering noone did post this yet:
Exit Mundi
Has supervolcanoes, asteroid impacts, verneshots (combination of supervolcanoes and asteroid impacts), Planet X, gamma ray bursts, the mayan calender and much more.
Congrats if you can think of a way the world is going to end thats not listed there...
(and makes at least a bit sense)
I know. Everyone turns their water faucets on at the same time! |
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