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Haskell
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.12.21 23:50:00 -
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Following this thread in the EBANK forums I compiled a list of all IPOs, Bond Offerings and Loan Requests posted in Market Discussion since 2003. Most of the work was automated using scripts, so the list is not guaranteed to be exhaustive and may contain erroneous data.
EVE Market Discussion Survey (PDF, 80 pages)
PDF (1.0 MB) | ZIP (302.3 KB)
Some facts and figures:
- I started with all 24,743 threads in the Market Discussion forum.
- Approx 12,000 threads of these were price checks, sell orders or trades and therefore not considered.
- Of the rest, approx 1,400 threads were picked manually (so there may be threads missing or even some false positives).
- Each thread was assigned a ticker (mostly re-using in-game corp tickers), a type, and the in-game corp name if possible.
- The threads were grouped by ticker, resulting in a list of 324 IPOs, Bond Offerings and Loan Requests (for more detailed statistics see inside).
- The oldest thread picked was posted in January 2006, followed shortly by the announcement of the EVE Galactic Stock Exchange (EGSE).
- The first IPO apparently was ISS Marginis [ISSMO], which seems to have started as early as around March 2005.
- For IPOs/Bond Launches in 2008 see also this thread. Historic lists of public corporations can be found here, here, and here.
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Ricdics
Tleilex Developments Dara Cothrom
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Posted - 2008.12.22 01:33:00 -
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I'm trying to rip through your list to see inaccuracies etc.
Found this:
Fordan Freeman Tech III Investment TECH7 2007-06-16 14:27:00 p.48
It's Gordan Freeman Tech
Still reading through but looks amazing so far. |
Menkaure
Amarr Vanitas Corp.
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Posted - 2008.12.22 01:52:00 -
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Cool list... surprised to see one of my alts names at the top of the list. Abu Sir, that thread was just an idea that was being thrown around by myself and never made it to press or any real workable stage. Can take it off.
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Packtu'sa
Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp
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Posted - 2008.12.22 02:51:00 -
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This certainly brings perspective to the scale of this part of the game. A similar compilation as Cosmoray's analysis of 2008 public ventures would have been excellent, but I don't doubt that such an undertaking would be daunting to say the least.
Well done.
Packtu'sa [NCIC] Founder/CEO, Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp |
SencneS
Amarr Rebellion Against big Irreversible Dinks
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Posted - 2008.12.22 05:13:00 -
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WOW This is most definitely what I was looking for :)
I simply suck at scripting, I grabbed all the tickers I could and was EVE-Searching those ticker names to find out the thread and Corpname etc.
I have to say this is indeed impressive.
Amarr for Life |
cosmoray
Cosmoray Construction
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Posted - 2008.12.22 05:50:00 -
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Cery nice.
If we could all this info into a database with success/fail/scam etc, and CEO name , launch date, then that would be amazing.
I would throw 100M towards anyone who releases one. I am sure many would.
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Ambo
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.12.22 07:33:00 -
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Very nice work, that's quite a list. Of course what it really needs is some extra bits of data and analysis but ofc that would be incredibly difficult, and somtimes impossible, to write a script for.
I'm sure someone will take it upon themselves to delve into the detail though. --------------------------------------
Trader? Investor? Just want to track your finances? Check out EMMA |
Sofitia Mourtos
Tri-Mining Corp Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2008.12.22 12:24:00 -
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Impressive !
If your goal is to list all bond/ipo offerings in eve-history then you might want to look at this also. I believe it was one of the first public bond offerings.
I realize that it is not posted in market discussion - but back then there was no "norm" for discussing such things in here.
For the forum warriors I can also tell that "Market Discussion" was originally "the marketplace" forum, in which both wtb, wts, wtt posts was listed. After the volume had increased to a "extreme level", CCP renamed the forum "Market Discussion" and created new separate forums for wts, wtb etc..
---------------------------------------- WTB: Guardian BPO |
Block Ukx
Block Ships and Ammunitions
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Posted - 2008.12.22 13:18:00 -
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Very Nice Job!
BSAC Mineral Market Manipulation (MinMa) Information Desk |
Damien Jax
Industrial Research College Ltd
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Posted - 2008.12.22 14:02:00 -
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Very well done indeed. It's especially useful to find those old shareholder report threads. BMBE's is particularly hard to find, you made it easy!
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Haskell
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.12.22 14:46:00 -
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Originally by: Ricdics I'm trying to rip through your list to see inaccuracies etc.
Found this:
Fordan Freeman Tech III Investment TECH7 2007-06-16 14:27:00 p.48
It's Gordan Freeman Tech
Thanks. I will upload a new version that fixes this and a few other typos shortly.
Originally by: Ricdics To the OP, what character do you want donations to be sent to? EBANK will be gifting you 50m for your troubles.
Confirming this character will be receiving the isk.
Originally by: Menkaure Cool list... surprised to see one of my alts names at the top of the list. Abu Sir, that thread was just an idea that was being thrown around by myself and never made it to press or any real workable stage. Can take it off.
Actually there are TONS of IPOs in the list that never made it past the idea. It would really be nice to see which tried/managed/failed to raise capital. But that's difficult to write a script for.
Originally by: Sofitia Mourtos If your goal is to list all bond/ipo offerings in eve-history then you might want to look at this also. I believe it was one of the first public bond offerings.
I realize that it is not posted in market discussion - but back then there was no "norm" for discussing such things in here.
Yeah, the list is restricted to IPOs/bonds in MD. I'm sure there are lots of gems hidden in the Sell Orders forum and also "in the heaps of 'Moa's for sale' threads" in MD. |
Haskell
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.12.22 15:34:00 -
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I've published an updated version which now also includes the number of threads and replies for each IPO/bond/loan as well as extended statistics.
Some more facts and figures:
- There are 1,432 threads covered by the list.
- 37,623 replies have been posted to these threads in Market Discussion.
- EBANK wins EVE: 64 threads and 2977 replies in a time span of 502 days.
- EVE ist dying: there have been approx 14,000 replies to listed threads in 2006 and 2007, but only 9176 in 2008 so far.
- The number of IPOs has been constant in 2006, 2007, and 2008 (approx 70 each), but 2008 was the year of bonds (3/12/60).
- The longest running IPO is the BIG Merchant Bank of EVE [BMBE] with 1,020 days so far.
- For the complete top 50 lists (most threads, most replies, and longest running), see inside.
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Hostility Incarnate
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Posted - 2008.12.22 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: Haskell
- The longest hostage IPO is the BIG Merchant Bank of EVE [BMBE] with 1,020 days so far.
Fixed that for you. |
Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2008.12.22 18:21:00 -
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So who am I sending a donation to? |
cosmoray
Cosmoray Construction
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Posted - 2008.12.22 18:32:00 -
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There is some really nice historicall reference points in here.
If any newcomers to the forum wants to know why we are a bunch of miserable buggers:
1. PSI
PSI SCAM
19 pages lies,abuse, flaming, mayhem.
2. Reithe
Reithe Bond + expansion
After the fact hatred
Reithe was so dispised for his scams that IPO's launched after that required an audit to prove you weren't Reithe.
note: I know Reithe will get a kick out of this!!
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nether void
Caldari Shrapnel Industries
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Posted - 2008.12.22 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: cosmoray
Reithe was so dispised for his scams that IPO's launched after that required an audit to prove you weren't Reithe.
LOL Priceless. --------------------
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Lexander Morinex
Caldari LDD Investments
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Posted - 2008.12.22 18:35:00 -
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Wow.
If people can verify the integrity of this information, I would love to run my grubby Statistician hands through this. I have a feeling that hard numbers might make the point better than anything else.
Thanks for this.
- Lexander Morinex
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Lexander Morinex
Caldari LDD Investments
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Posted - 2008.12.22 18:36:00 -
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Oh, and my Society for the Creation of Ammunition & Munitions (SCAM) was very much a joke IPO, and should probably be excluded.
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cosmoray
Cosmoray Construction
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Posted - 2008.12.22 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: nether void
Originally by: cosmoray
Reithe was so dispised for his scams that IPO's launched after that required an audit to prove you weren't Reithe.
LOL Priceless.
Unfortunately true. My own IPO which launched more than 9 months after Reithe required a "I'm not Reithe" audit:
Cosmoray audit
page 4, response 95.
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Kwint Sommer
Caldari XERCORE
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Posted - 2008.12.24 07:30:00 -
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Originally by: cosmoray Cery nice.
If we could all this info into a database with success/fail/scam etc, and CEO name , launch date, then that would be amazing.
I would throw 100M towards anyone who releases one. I am sure many would.
I would like to echo the sentiment. Cery well done.
Haskell has been sent a very well deserved 50M and I'll match cosmoray's 100M for whomever adds success/fail/scam to the database.
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TornSoul
BIG Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2008.12.29 21:44:00 -
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Finally the damn thing would load from EVE-Files
/me bows to Haskell
Most impressive. I hope you'll share your scripts, and non script work routines needed, with someone (In case you one day leave EVE)
I would *love* to see this updated quarterly or half yearly henceforth.
Clap clap (standing ovation)
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Wee bit shocked to see BMBE in the top of all those listings... Must be due to it's longevity - Yes that must be it
Oldest (and longest running) IPO still around eh - Never realized that tbh.
Rare to see this kind of work. Much appriciated!
BIG Lottery |
Haskell
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.02.01 18:29:00 -
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As promised, here is an updated version of the list now also covering the rest of 2008 and January 2009. Enjoy!
PDF (1.2 MB) | ZIP (400.2 KB)
- 377 new threads have been posted in the Market Discussion forum since the last version.
- Again, I picked all threads that suspiciously looked like they're related to IPOs/Bonds/Loans, resulting in 101 new threads added to the list.
- 16 IPOs, 7 bond offerings, and 5 loan requests have been added (28 total).
- The old version (2008-12-22) is still available here: PDF | ZIP.
Many, many thanks to Kwint for the donation! |
Forceflow
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.02.02 05:27:00 -
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Nice work.
We really should get this linkified in the resource thread.
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Loney
CyberDyne R-D
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Posted - 2009.02.02 13:07:00 -
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Edited by: Loney on 02/02/2009 13:22:46
Nice work..
Only thing I can add is you missed CDRD first IPO: Here and Here
Here is all the important CDRD threads already linked: Here
Loney
Check us out Now!
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Jonny Suede
Advanced BPO Research Division
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Posted - 2009.02.02 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: Forceflow Nice work.
We really should get this linkified in the resource thread.
I agree with this.
Excellent work Haskell, donation has been made. |
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