Maybe we can talk about something other then a drunk guy named Alex and a fake electronic market for a while.





I still recall being a noob. I vividly remember someone flying into my home system and marveling at how he had a whoping 50M SP. I ofc was mining normal Veldspar in my Ibis and barely had 1m. Ah... the noobish dreams that I had at the time lol. Now, I have 70m SP, I can use all weapons, fly every tech II-III ship, I can fly all 4 black ops ships, and I am currently working on skills I have no reason to train like Jump Drive Calibration Lv 5. Pretty cool for a sub 100M sp character if I do say so myself.


I have tons of friends in game, and still find EVE Online visually spectacular. I enjoy logging in... and then... that is it. There is no motivation left to do much else besides log in. I kind of always figured that when you got tired of EVE that was it, you're done. But in my case at least, I still love the game, it is just a matter of the game play having nothing else to offer. As a player I think that I am reasonable in my expectations, I am just having trouble committing to a roam, running a mission, going into a Wh or running a CTA when the outcome is predictable.


I don't know about the rest of you, but I can pretty much size up two gangs at this point and predict which one will win. I know where to go to get hotdropped, and where to go to station camp null bears. I know how to hunt in WH space, with the god awful "Circle game" and I know the secrets to making buttloads of isk in unexpected ways. There is just no reason to do any of this, because I have done it already. Anyone else experiencing this?




Since EVE Online was my first MMORGP, I have no frame of reference for reaching a game's "end of life" as it were. I guess I am there, but I still like EVE to much to quit it all together. Weird? Or not so weird? ... and no, if I ever quit all together my stuff will go to a few select friends in game or a random noob who will inherent several billion for no apparent reason. So you cannot haz..

I always thought it was more like:

"If one cannot do, teach"

Just sayin

My friends and I were discussing this exact thing. Or rather, what to do about it.

I've had this character now for about a year and a half and all I've done is train it. I haven't shot anyone in the face for almost 18 months. I log in, I train, I keep tabs on the game and its design changes and I keep waiting for the day that CCP radically improves PVP by doing something big- like removing local.

But back to my point- we were discussing how to make Eve fun again, and what we came up with was to try and invent novel and interesting ways to kill people as unexpectedly as possible, just for the emotional impact of it. Basically, causing as many tears as possible for no other reason than to cause distress.

But, this isn't just because we're sociopaths. We're doing this because it actually adds to the game. It builds emotional attachment to the game for our victims. They will remember the adrenalin and the shock. And a few of them will want to get that rush again, and lo and behold- they're set off upon a journey to PVP. Most won't, but some will. I'm willing to kill a thousand carebears if it means turning one of them into a PVPer.

My friends and I were discussing this exact thing. Or rather, what to do about it.

I've had this character now for about a year and a half and all I've done is train it. I haven't shot anyone in the face for almost 18 months. I log in, I train, I keep tabs on the game and its design changes and I keep waiting for the day that CCP radically improves PVP by doing something big- like removing local.

But back to my point- we were discussing how to make Eve fun again, and what we came up with was to try and invent novel and interesting ways to kill people as unexpectedly as possible, just for the emotional impact of it. Basically, causing as many tears as possible for no other reason than to cause distress.

But, this isn't just because we're sociopaths. We're doing this because it actually adds to the game. It builds emotional attachment to the game for our victims. They will remember the adrenalin and the shock. And a few of them will want to get that rush again, and lo and behold- they're set off upon a journey to PVP. Most won't, but some will. I'm willing to kill a thousand carebears if it means turning one of them into a PVPer.

weird, disjointed statement

These kinds of problems with MMOs don't happen when you don't rely on them too much to fulfill your life or fill your life in any way.


As a source of fulfillment in life, an MMO can only go so far. I don't think there will ever be any MMORPG that can do it either. The Holy Grail of MMOs - the one that provides total fulfillment in life and never deviates from that - does not exist and probably won't.

Maybe perhaps when the holodeck is invented it will happen, but then people are going to use that more for pron than MMOs.


There should never be a "strange place" in this game, or the kinds of problems that occur to the OP, because to do so means you expected too much from a video game in the first place.

...how do you get rich?

I have a feeling the Devs are reading this thread with a lot of interest.

If you've got to the stage where you feel you've seen it all, done it all and maybe know it all - there is actually nothing else for you in the game.

Often people suggest train some noobs, but you've done that in spades so really a loooooong break or maybe Dust 514 will be the only thing to pull you out of that EVE-ennui

There should never be a "strange place" in this game, or the kinds of problems that occur to the OP, because to do so means you expected too much from a video game in the first place.

To log on and not be bored.
Or.
Not not want to log on.


Simple really.





P.S.
Something about fourth generational warfare!

So he'd done something that cant be done yet?

No wonder he's fuckin bored.

Oh and nullsec doesn't count clearly.

The emergent empires sitting in 0.0 are just static CCP created content afterall