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The cloaker
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Posted - 2008.11.22 13:22:00 -
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I've forgotten now, how long does it take to learn back the time spent on training the Adv. Learning skills to level 5?
Thanks
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Dark Soldat
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.11.22 13:38:00 -
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It depends.
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ouroboros trading
Gallente Medics On Fire
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Posted - 2008.11.22 18:36:00 -
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768000-135000=633000 sp
633000/24/60 = 439.5 days?
423295? That's Numberwang! |
Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2008.11.22 19:54:00 -
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It doesn't matter. You can end up better off in far less time then it takes to learn back skills spent on training Adv5. ____ Telltale sign of their presence is non-linear teleportation (www.eve-online.com/races/theodicy/Theodicy_All.pdf)
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Deizel
Velvet Underground Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.11.22 20:02:00 -
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Edited by: Deizel on 22/11/2008 20:04:35
To simplify let's use averages and assume +5 attribute implants (if you have lesser implants the benefit will be more):
Adv Learning 4 = Avg 2158.2 SP/hour Adv Learning 5 = Avg 2257.2 SP/hour Difference = 99 SP/ hour
Learnign Skills 5 = 5 * (768000-135765)= 3,161,175 SPs Time for Breakeven = 3,161,175 SPs / 99 SP/hour = 31,931 hours = 1330 days = 3.6 years
I trained all to 5 when they came out and have no regrets.
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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Posted - 2008.11.23 14:30:00 -
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Originally by: Deizel Edited by: Deizel on 22/11/2008 20:04:35
To simplify let's use averages and assume +5 attribute implants (if you have lesser implants the benefit will be more):
Adv Learning 4 = Avg 2158.2 SP/hour Adv Learning 5 = Avg 2257.2 SP/hour Difference = 99 SP/ hour
Learnign Skills 5 = 5 * (768000-135765)= 3,161,175 SPs Time for Breakeven = 3,161,175 SPs / 99 SP/hour = 31,931 hours = 1330 days = 3.6 years
I trained all to 5 when they came out and have no regrets.
That's the basis. There's also the situational perspective.
I.e. I thought about upgrading my lv4 carrier-stuff and to get some assorted support things for a Mothership. Ran the calculation on amount of days, it would be 340 I think with +4's (which I use while pvping, obviously less with +5's which I use when RL takes over over gametime).
I then did the same calculation, but added four of the five (no charisma) adv learnings up front. Training was, if I recall right, only a few days more than the earlier 340. I decided to train adv learning's to five, bar charisma, and in my eyes, it took me less than a year to be worth it. Obviously that's subject for whatever attributes/skills you have/want to train = situational. But it doesn't have to take 3,5 years to make it worthwhile.
I'm too lazy to do the maths right now, but the less attributes you use when training, the 'better' it gets by getting adv learnings to five. If you purely train skills that use int/memory, getting int/mem adv lvl five will take you around a month less than it took me to get my four adv fives. The 3,5 years are way off then.
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Chelone
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2008.11.27 01:55:00 -
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~1.2 years of primary training per stat, or ~3.8 years of general training for all 5 stats.
Note: that is breakeven, not where you have actually gained anything. You will have been BEHIND for that amount of time.
Short answer - don't bother with advanced 5. But if you want to waste the SP, I really don't care. People waste SP all the time...
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Calgura
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.11.29 13:53:00 -
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Originally by: Chelone Short answer - don't bother with advanced 5. But if you want to waste the SP, I really don't care. People waste SP all the time...
One man's crap is another man's treasure. Who are you to decide which skill points are wasted on which skills? I got my advanced learnings to 5, and cybernetics to 5 for the +5 implants, and no regrets on training all that what-so-ever, so no waste to me.
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Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2008.11.29 13:58:00 -
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Chelone said "Note: that is breakeven, not where you have actually gained anything. You will have been BEHIND for that amount of time.c" Yes you're behind in one way. But in another way you can be ahead in both skill points and ahead in useful skill points all in less than a year. It's not a simple case of your always behind in useful skill points till years have gone past.
____ Telltale sign of their presence is non-linear teleportation (www.eve-online.com/races/theodicy/Theodicy_All.pdf)
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