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Polkageist
Minmatar No Limit Productions OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.09 13:21:00 -
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If you just wanna smack, please don't do it here.
There are many pages on the internet presenting information on this event.
http://www.ae911truth.org/
http://firefightersfor911truth.org/
and so on and so on... Im not sure how many different sites there are, but try google "9/11 truth" or something like that, to get a clue.
I don't present this to harm anyone. This is merely an attempt to satisfy my conscience.
Take care.
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente Zetsubou Corp
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Posted - 2008.11.09 13:23:00 -
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Has this forum just acquired another shining? ____________________
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Gojyu
Ever Flow Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.09 13:27:00 -
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Quote: There are many pages on the internet presenting information on this event.
And there's just as many showing what a load of crock the whole 9/11 conspiracy crowd is. Poor attempt at trolling, it's been done before, as the above poster mentioned.
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hubbad
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Posted - 2008.11.09 13:34:00 -
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listen, i dont even know what trolling is.. im here to get relief.
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Polkageist
Minmatar No Limit Productions OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.09 13:37:00 -
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I am trying to do my best... i dont even play EVE no more. I dont know what trolling is.
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Sarmea Moon
Gallente The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.11.09 13:37:00 -
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Originally by: hubbad listen, i dont even know what trolling is.. im here to get relief.
I've got a cream for that... 99p please.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.11.09 14:03:00 -
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We'll find out the "truth" about 9/11 a couple of decades after we find the "truth" behind the JFK assassination. Now give it a rest.
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Polkageist
Minmatar No Limit Productions OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.09 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T We'll find out the "truth" about 9/11 a couple of decades after we find the "truth" behind the JFK assassination. Now give it a rest.
we will probably never know the truth about any of the two, but tbh your attitude towards this is quite concerning, as you treat the matter as it is of little importance. Maybe it is to you? Ignorance is bless.
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Davina Braben
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Posted - 2008.11.09 14:29:00 -
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SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Naqam Exalted.
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Posted - 2008.11.09 14:49:00 -
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I heard the moon landing was faked as well.
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Polkageist
Minmatar No Limit Productions OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.09 14:53:00 -
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Edited by: Polkageist on 09/11/2008 14:53:46
Originally by: Rawr Cristina I heard the moon landing was faked as well.
maybe it was, i have no clue... but please stay on subject. To not make distortion.
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Baldour Ngarr
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.11.09 15:58:00 -
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Originally by: Polkageist maybe it was, i have no clue... but please stay on subject. To not make distortion.
Staying on subject; all the conspiracy theories around 9/11 are complete and utter hogwash. Stop worrying about them, and treat them with the contempt they deserve.
Problem solved. ________________________________________________
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Tau Dades
Caldari Electrostatik
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Posted - 2008.11.09 16:07:00 -
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Originally by: Polkageist Edited by: Polkageist on 09/11/2008 14:53:46
Originally by: Rawr Cristina I heard the moon landing was faked as well.
maybe it was, i have no clue... but please stay on subject. To not make distortion.
watch Mythbusters, they had a great show on it.
the internets is full of garbage, you stumbled upon a landfill.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.11.09 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: Polkageist tbh your attitude towards this is quite concerning, as you treat the matter as it is of little importance
Yes, it is of MINUSCULE importance. All the possible effects have reached the peak and are subsiding, you will NEVER find out the exact details behind it, even less so if it's anything other than what's supposed to have been. So, yeah, things you have absolutely no influence over and things you can not possibly prove for certain either way are of almost no importance whatsoever in the grand scheme of things.
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Cmdr Sy
Appetite 4 Destruction The Firm.
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Posted - 2008.11.09 16:25:00 -
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OK, let's assume for a moment the whole thing was faked.
Why should I care? I am suddenly unhappy because...? I feel a sense of outrage over...?
That's the problem conspiracy theorists always have, strong on detail, weak on why it matters.
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Polkageist
Minmatar No Limit Productions OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.09 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: Cmdr Sy OK, let's assume for a moment the whole thing was faked.
Why should I care? I am suddenly unhappy because...? I feel a sense of outrage over...?
That's the problem conspiracy theorists always have, strong on detail, weak on why it matters.
Yeah why would u care? I cant argue with that, thats up to you. Why it matters? ahh come on...
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Polkageist
Minmatar No Limit Productions OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.09 17:36:00 -
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Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Polkageist maybe it was, i have no clue... but please stay on subject. To not make distortion.
Staying on subject; all the conspiracy theories around 9/11 are complete and utter hogwash. Stop worrying about them, and treat them with the contempt they deserve.
Problem solved.
Yeah im sure Dario FO try to hogwash me in "ZERO: an investigation into 9/11"
or maybe former german defenseminister Andreas Von Bnlow appear in "911: false flag" for fun.
And no im not gonna stop worrying about it. But its free for you, im sure alot of people would like if you just look the other way. Thats up to you.
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Kirex
Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2008.11.09 17:40:00 -
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OP, you're a ****ing idiot.
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goodby4u
Valor Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.09 17:42:00 -
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Edited by: goodby4u on 09/11/2008 17:42:50 Come on guys, even I know this guy is a troll, I mean a guy named polkageist talking about this issues? Lovely.
EDIT:Though I am tempted to feed him, as we are missing another good sephra.
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.11.09 17:45:00 -
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The conspiracy theories to me seem just..theories in the way that intelligent design is a theory. There is just one bit that I cannot stomach however, and that is the plane with a very inexperienced pilot that made an almost 360 degree sharp turn to hit the empty side of the pentagon and vaporized on impact.
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goodby4u
Valor Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.09 17:46:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz The conspiracy theories to me seem just..theories in the way that intelligent design is a theory. There is just one bit that I cannot stomach however, and that is the plane with a very inexperienced pilot that made an almost 360 degree sharp turn to hit the empty side of the pentagon and vaporized on impact.
Oh hell no dont point this towards religion, this thread could truly be just as win as any of sephras.
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Polkageist
Minmatar No Limit Productions OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.09 17:49:00 -
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This is out of pod forum, if you are talking about trolls i guess thats game related. Then you should not do it here. But really friends i dont know what "trolling" is. Please dont comment if you just say the same things you hear bill o'reilly say or some other "newsreporter" filling your head with ****. If you actually have researched this and want to comment on some specific issues please do, but if you havent reasearched anything exept the propaganda the mainstreammedia feeds you, please dont make a fool of yourself by commenting here.
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goodby4u
Valor Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.09 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: Polkageist This is out of pod forum, if you are talking about trolls i guess thats game related. Then you should not do it here. But really friends i dont know what "trolling" is. Please dont comment if you just say the same things you hear bill o'reilly say or some other "newsreporter" filling your head with ****. If you actually have researched this and want to comment on some specific issues please do, but if you havent reasearched anything exept the propaganda the mainstreammedia feeds you, please dont make a fool of yourself by commenting here.
The above is what trolling is.
But Ill bite(we're overdue for another sephra anyways)Ive watched stuff like zeitgeist before, aswell as many different youtube blah blah government blah blah.
What I have seen as a middle of the road person(not conspiracy theorist nor sheep)is that what those comspiracy videos have in common is they use a little truth at first, this draws you in... Then they slowly take away their truth in every scene until its complete theory, however since it seems as though it has basis you think the guy is right.
As for the 9/11 deal, I would like to see you go to one of those families that lost a loved one in those aircraft and tell them this was all a lie, what you are saying here is incredibly hurtfull to that group of people.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.11.09 17:58:00 -
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Let's assume for a second I would be totally and utterly convinced of the fact 9/11 was a government conspiracy that had the aim of introducing the PATRIOT act, almost triggering a police state and giving the USA an excuse to attack Iraq. SO WHAT IF ? The PATRIOT act is in place, Iraq is occupied, and you will NEVER find conclusive evidence to link any government official to any of the things that happened. What good could you possibly hope to attain by digging the whole dispute up again and again ? Precisely zilch.
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Cmdr Sy
Appetite 4 Destruction The Firm.
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Posted - 2008.11.09 18:05:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz There is just one bit that I cannot stomach however, and that is the plane with a very inexperienced pilot that made an almost 360 degree sharp turn to hit the empty side of the pentagon and vaporized on impact.
Good point. There are a few bits which don't make sense, but the unknown is better left a mystery than wrapping it in a lie. At least the former leaves it open to further inquiry some day, buying someone's lie over another like a preferred brand of cereal does the truth a disservice. The OP has to justify why his brand of snake oil is superior to another leading brand. And why it matters that one should be.
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.11.09 18:09:00 -
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Originally by: Cmdr Sy ] Good point. There are a few bits which don't make sense, but the unknown is better left a mystery than wrapping it in a lie.
I could not disagree more, and I had to resist a really, really strong urge not to post a lengthy religion bash right here.
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Cmdr Sy
Appetite 4 Destruction The Firm.
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Posted - 2008.11.09 18:14:00 -
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It's cool, I'm an atheist too.
I was speaking about corporeal events. Metaphysical unknowns, sure, we can dismiss those.
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Kehmor
Caldari Malevolent Emo Herders Obsidian Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.09 19:06:00 -
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The majority of evidence put forward by conspiracy theorists is a load of crap, however unless you were there you'll never know for sure one way or the other, and I certainly won't be able to convince you. So, evidence aside let me put this to you:
Let us assume the American government needed an excuse to start this war on terror. Why on earth would they use planes?! Conspiracy theorists claim that bombs had secretly been planted in the buildings already, so why not just set them off and blame the terrorist organisation of their choice? What thought process could possibly of been going through their heads to convince them that it was a good idea to execute an elaborate plan involving hundreds of people, several of whom had to be convinced to end their own lives? - Violence isn't the answer, it is the question. The answer is yes. |
Kehmor
Caldari Malevolent Emo Herders Obsidian Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.09 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz The conspiracy theories to me seem just..theories in the way that intelligent design is a theory. There is just one bit that I cannot stomach however, and that is the plane with a very inexperienced pilot that made an almost 360 degree sharp turn to hit the empty side of the pentagon and vaporized on impact.
Answer me this:
If it was indeed not the terrorist pilot that the government claim it to be, where did they get hold of a fully qualified american airline pilot willing to end his own life and the lives of countless others? If it was another "terrorist" why lie about his identity? - Violence isn't the answer, it is the question. The answer is yes. |
Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.11.09 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Kehmor
Originally by: Sokratesz The conspiracy theories to me seem just..theories in the way that intelligent design is a theory. There is just one bit that I cannot stomach however, and that is the plane with a very inexperienced pilot that made an almost 360 degree sharp turn to hit the empty side of the pentagon and vaporized on impact.
Answer me this:
If it was indeed not the terrorist pilot that the government claim it to be, where did they get hold of a fully qualified american airline pilot willing to end his own life and the lives of countless others? If it was another "terrorist" why lie about his identity?
My point is that a plane probably didn't fly into the pentagon. The tape that could possibly contain footage of it was confiscated, and nobody on the highway nearby saw a plane pass over low. (I think I've seen one person testifying to this actually but there should be dozens)
Lastly, if it did indeed hit the building, where did it go. Take a look at photos of real plane crashes and you'll find paper, luggage and seats all over the place. Also, the gas turbines are almost always clearly visible and hardly damaged. None of that at the pentagon, so, where's the plane? Same for the one that crashed. (see United 93)
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