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Adacia Calla
The Long Kiss Goodnight
6
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Posted - 2012.03.31 00:52:00 -
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There needs to be a screening of how well you can handle alcohol before going up on stage. Day before Fanfest starts, everyone who plans on taking the stage needs to down 12 whatever brand the Icelandic drink in 10 minutes and be able to speak for 10 seconds without looking like an idiot. Test signature....forum not applying settings :( |
Xander Riggs
The Scope Gallente Federation
106
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Posted - 2012.03.31 00:53:00 -
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******* melvins, man.
One guy says something off the cuff and suddenly everything has to change. Party over, everyone go home. You people are why we can't have nice things. Sure, you'll blame the Mittani. You'll rant and rave about how his comments were 'vile' and 'evil,' and then what will you do? Punish everyone else.
You whiny, authoritarian moral demagogues just can't stand it, can you? You want it clean and polished, detached from any emblance of humanity. You know what another word for clean is? Sterile.
CCP camped the gate at the airport with a tour bus, cases of beer, and bottles of jack. That is amazing, unexpected, and fun.
CCP has always had a unique relationship with its players. They've always been the kind of company that you could (literally) sit down and share a drink with, shooting the **** about almost anything while playing a drinking game. CCP has an image; they're gamers, they're fun, they're UNIQUE. They're NOT the suits other game developers and publishers are. They're like you and me. They talk to us, and sometimes they even listen.
Now, because one guy said one thing you want to throw out one of the truly unique elements of CCP's relationship with their fans. God forbid CCP reveal themselves to be human beings for even a split second. That would undermine the faceless corporate facde the thin skinned, politically correct masses want to see.
We play a game about space ships. That doesn't mean we have to be COMPLETE nerds. "A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands." |
2D34DLY4U
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.03.31 01:10:00 -
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The fact that things got out of hand due to alchool does not mean that CCP benefits or should interfere with player behaviour at gatherings (or elsewhere for that matter).
This is assuming it is appropriate to call what happened "out of hand", mostly considering CCP's reaction and the visibility through bad press (=bad business) the incident originated.
What goes on at events is up to the players that are free individuals and CCP has nothing to do with it nor should restrict or provide guidelines for what people do as it is not their responsbility, in the same way that sports teams/leagues are not responsible for what the attending audience does at sports matches.
What gets broadcasted to the whole world as CCP branded content, that is a problem for the business and for the company.
Therefore I do NOT expect any guidelines for player behaviour of any kind, but I DO expect guidelines for what people can do or not do when on air on EVE TV, or a SuperBowl like scheme where the feed is 5 minutes delayed so content can be censored before broadcast.
This has nothing to do with freedom. Individuals can still do whatever they want. Companies can also do whatever they want and as such they chose what gets broadcasted or not.
Considering some kind of restrictions / guidelines for player behaviour as something that can result from this process is (again) taking things too far. All of what happened, basically very stupid but mostly harmless behaviour, has sparked an over bloated reaction but I guess if you open the door to storms you sometimes get tsunamis. |
Jojo Jackson
Dead Red Eye
121
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Posted - 2012.03.31 01:13:00 -
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That idears are just terrible troll stuff.
It is in no way hard to get some secure people and let them have an eye on people who drink beer after beer or start to be loud/agressive/can't walk streight.
This is NOT to penelize the fans but to protect them against these guys who don't know their limits!
If you know you can drink 5 beer without doing stupid stuff or brain lag .. drink your 5 beer BUT DON'T TOUCH THE 6th!
If you get the 6th you are not cool but just a ******* braindead idiot! Why the hell can't I fitt capital repairs or shield booster on an Orca ... it's an CAPITAL ship! |
Ninevite
Shiva Initiative Mercenaries
78
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Posted - 2012.03.31 01:14:00 -
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Some of you are raging awfully hard for what was supposed to be a civil discussion |
2D34DLY4U
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.03.31 01:38:00 -
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Jojo Jackson wrote:That ideas are just terrible troll stuff.
It is in no way hard to get some secure people and let them have an eye on people who drink beer after beer or start to be loud/agressive/can't walk streight.
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Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
336
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Posted - 2012.03.31 01:46:00 -
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As eminently more bashable as CCP grows by the day...
...Since when is it their responsibility that one raging douchebag--or more than one, even--can't hold their liquor?
They should just do what bars do all over the planet--if someone is obviously too far off their ****, then refuse further alcohol, and if they act up about it, eject them from the premises. In irae, veritas. |
Wolf Kruol
Capsuleer Legions Of New Eden GREATER ITAMO MAFIA
6
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Posted - 2012.03.31 02:44:00 -
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No. I mean come on. Drinking is a normal event. Not CCPs fault they have a few alcoholics in there guests. Everyone is responsible for there own actions. I say keep the beer flowing.
and Drink responsibly. |
Montague Zooma
Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
2
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Posted - 2012.03.31 18:35:00 -
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Who cares about fanfest? Worry more about devs drinking on the job. That's gotta be why Eve resembles a game of Fizbin. |
Prince Kobol
471
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Posted - 2012.03.31 18:44:00 -
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No, they should just restrict idiots |
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Xander Riggs
The Scope Gallente Federation
130
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Posted - 2012.03.31 18:51:00 -
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Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:As eminently more bashable as CCP grows by the day...
...Since when is it their responsibility that one raging douchebag--or more than one, even--can't hold their liquor?
They should just do what bars do all over the planet--if someone is obviously too far off their ****, then refuse further alcohol, and if they act up about it, eject them from the premises.
It becomes their responsibility when they are providing the alcohol. You can't meet people at the airport with handles of JD and cases of beer and then get shocked when people are drunk later. "A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands." |
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1373
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Posted - 2012.03.31 18:54:00 -
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Restriction of alcohol is bad, i mean realy bad.
And who cares.
Cars kills tens of thousands people each day. Medicine kills even more. Food in supermarket, what the hell ??
Best defence is restrict life. And then everything will be perfect. I mean it. |
GeneralDisturbed
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
122
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Posted - 2012.03.31 18:57:00 -
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No. |
Korsiri
Mousetrap Building Inc.
21
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Posted - 2012.03.31 18:58:00 -
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Hell no. |
Leonard Achana
Lights of Aiur
0
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Posted - 2012.03.31 19:20:00 -
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While we're at it, let's make sure everything is a nice inoffensive shade of beige. |
Akrasjel Lanate
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
681
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Posted - 2012.03.31 19:25:00 -
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You don't know what would that lead to |
Alpheias
Euphoria Released 0ccupational Hazzard
574
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Posted - 2012.03.31 19:32:00 -
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No. That would just create more problems and alienate a majority of people who go to fanfest for the social aspect.
I would like to see some more "Sorry buddy, but you have had enough" though. I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient Electus Matari
176
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Posted - 2012.03.31 19:46:00 -
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I wouldn't mind if CCP took the policy of telling anyone obviously stupid-drunk to not get on the stage, and certainly the people serving drinks should refuse to serve people who have already obviously had enough (I think the law in Iceland actually demands it, too). Beyond that, not really a fan of artificial restrictions.
I think some players need a reality adjustment though. If I paid (well, hopefully, when I pay) for a plane ticket to Iceland, I would prefer the alliance panel to have more interesting things than drunken people saying things I could hear on Jita local for the price of the subscription and without ever leaving home. While I do not expect useful intel, these are actually guys who have built some of the most successful alliances in the game. There's a lot they could say that would be more interesting and/or funnier than "a drunken brag-a-thron", as someone aptly put it. |
Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg
1-800-FUBAR
116
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Posted - 2012.03.31 19:52:00 -
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It should be restricted for Americans as there beer is weaker than European Beer and as you can see from sausagefest. they can handle it Standing in for Karn Dulake who was banned for saying bad words |
Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
573
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Posted - 2012.04.02 08:12:00 -
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Shalia Ripper wrote:No.
Any child that can't learn how to handle their drinking will make an ass out of themselves and properly reveal their inner moron.
Aye it is always good to see if someone can establish some self-control. - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |
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Samillian
Moonshine Industries The Last Chancers.
110
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Posted - 2012.04.02 08:46:00 -
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Restrict alcohol......
In Iceland......
At Fanfest?
Seriously, you might as well try to restrict breathing..... you would probably have more success. |
xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers Galactic-Rangers
54
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Posted - 2012.04.02 09:07:00 -
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on stage/cam/live stream - yes.
off stage/cam/live stream - hell NO !
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Farrisen
MoaR ChickeN
71
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Posted - 2012.04.02 09:26:00 -
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No. Since it's common sense , not to be shitfaced (and continue to drink) during a "panel"
Also, the devs, seems to keep in line, as in not drunk/drinking during presentations/keynotes ;) http://i.imgur.com/DWBuV.png
Originally by: CCP Spitfire: It's because of falcon. |
Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
278
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Posted - 2012.04.02 09:36:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:We're cool space bros. We're gonna stay cool space bros.
I do like how you trivialise binge drinking and alcohol-fuelled anti social behaviour. What next, I wonder? |
Nirnias Stirrum
Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD.
52
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Posted - 2012.04.02 10:09:00 -
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Next year is the 10th anniversary for Eve, the fanfest will be insane, i fully intend on being there for it IF alcohol is not allowed i will not be attending!
I am Irish, alcohol is a way of life for me! |
Virtahepo
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
2
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Posted - 2012.04.02 10:24:00 -
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As a teetotalist, I believe that EVE fanfest is not the right place to enjoy alcohol. It shows that you are immature and incapable of having fun and socializing without extremely dangerous substances such as alcohol.
In my opinion, in the next fanfest all drinks should be left at the door. If you're so addicted to alcohol that you can't survive a few days without it, then I recommend that you go to rehab as soon as possible. |
Nirnias Stirrum
Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD.
52
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Posted - 2012.04.02 10:25:00 -
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Virtahepo wrote:As a teetotalist, I believe that EVE fanfest is not the right place to enjoy alcohol. It shows that you are immature and incapable of having fun and socializing without extremely dangerous substances such as alcohol.
In my opinion, in the next fanfest all drinks should be left at the door. If you're so addicted to alcohol that you can't survive a few days without it, then I recommend that you go to rehab as soon as possible.
I lol'd... then i said wow... he is serious! then i lol'd harder!... true story. |
Imuran
Zentor Industries
10
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Posted - 2012.04.02 10:26:00 -
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I dont drink but no they should not restrict it - maybe a bit more selective on what they stream though :) |
Peter Raptor
Knights of Gallifrae
46
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Posted - 2012.04.02 11:32:00 -
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Ronja Mistysdottir wrote:I did not see members of the panel load the slides. All the slides was loaded by CCP, and they had seen them before the show.
Also, nothing really bad was said during the debate. Some jibberish was said after the debate was over that could be questionable, at best, that the gaming press that hates EVE-Online, a bad game, started to run with.
This caused the best drama I have seen on the Internet for days on days, and everything was cool, and then for some reason people get banned, war-dec rules to change, High Sec ganking gets nerfed / called exploits, so, I wonder...
Are CCP taking my sandbox away? If so, what will be the difference between EVE and WOW / AOC? I do know a scimitar is a priest, a Hictor is a dwarf and so on, but apart from that, nothing. Eve will just be an empty void with no drama.
Eve can not live without Drama, and please, someone, tell me some dramatic stories from another MMO, because I do not think they exist.
Hmmmmm, well WOW does have MILLIONS more players than eve, that's kinda saying at least a bit I'd say. Obviously dramas aren't always beneficial. |
Simetraz
State War Academy Caldari State
182
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Posted - 2012.04.02 11:38:00 -
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Somebody did something stupid while drinking so now we should punish everyone.
No sorry.
The lessen here is to learn to drink properly or bring along friends to keep you from doing something foolish.
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